112/157: Betty Hill part 1 FN : 55b7 Name: Barb Becker #106 @3466 Date: Sat Jun 02 02:10:39 1990 Sometime ago I received a paper from a researcher in Columbia Missouri on the Hill case. I found the paper very interesting but wondered if his conclu- sions were accurate. I decided to contact Mrs. Hill. I told her about the BBS and that I wanted to put the paper on the board, but wanted to let her know what was being said and offer her a chance for rebuttal/corrections. She ac- cepted. What follows is the paper, and then two letters from her. I have used [brackets] to show her corrections. ****************************************** INTELLIGENCE, MEDIA CONNECTIONS IN UFO CASES UFOsearch / Val Germann / Columbia, Mo. / 1990 #2 The Hill Abduction Case, 1961, source: Interrupted Journey SEPT. 18-19 [Sept. 19-20] Barney and Betty Hill abducted in the White Moun- tains of New Hampshire. They remember part of the experience but have over 2 hours of "missing time," of which they are totally unaware at first. Barney remembers seeing huge object with "fins with red lights on the ends" and "crew members behind glass" panels at very short range. This object was more than 100 feet across and hovered 50 feet above the ground only 300 feet away for several minutes Barney watched through binoculars. SEPT. 20 Betty Hill calls her sister and tells her part of the story. Sister then calls a local physicist who suggested they check for radiation. Sister al- so calls local police chief who suggests they call Pease AFB, Portsmouth, N.H. Betty calls the Air Force Base, worried about radiation. The officer who an- swers was at first "cynical and unresponsive" but finally did ask to talk to Barney. After Barney mentioned the "fins with lights" the officer perked up and said the call was being "monitored". Barney felt that the officer was definite- ly interested. Barney did not mention the figures he had seen behind the glass through binoculars. SEPT. 21 Major Paul Anderson, Intelligence Officer for the 100th Bomb Group, Pease AFB, calls back, says he has stayed up all night working on a report of this incident. Asked Barney for the size of the object. Barney says it appeared as big as a dinner plate held at arms length. Major Anderson filed a report with Blue Book, #100-1-61. SEPT. 23 Betty [Barney] Hill Goes to the local Library and finds one of Major Donald Keyhoe's books on UFOs. Takes down his address. SEPT. 26 Betty Hill writes to Keyhoe in Washington, D.C., describing the inci- dent as she remembers it. Fuller reports that NICAP (Keyhoe's organization) was getting 40,000 letters a year. SEPT. 30 Ten days after the sighting Betty Hill begins to have a series of vivid and awesome dreams, which Fuller does not tell us about. They continue for five days and then stop. OCT. 4 Keyhoe is asked to lunch by Robert Hohman and someone named C.D. Jack- son, "senior engineer" for a "notable electronics company", name withheld. They are supposedly working on a paper about extra-terrestrial contacts that Nikola Tesla, David Todd and Marconi were alleged to have experienced in the early part of the century. Keyhoe tells them about the Hills. OCT. 21 Walter Webb, investigtaor for Keyhoe's NICAP and an astronomer [lec- turer] with the Hayden Planetarium, New York, N.Y., comes to interview the Hills. He is there several hours. Betty does not tell him about her dreams. Barney tells of the "captain" and others he saw through the glass. OCT. 25? Betty begins to have a series of dreams following an experience in the car. She had panicked as she and Barney had come upon a stalled auto in the road with some people standing around it. That night she dreamed of being taken into a UFO and given some sort of examination. OCT. 26 Webb's report goes to NICAP in Washington. He had not been contacted by Keyhoe directly but through the mail by Richard Hall, NICAP's secretary. He had been skeptical. He was very much impressed by the Hills, however. NOV. 3 Hohman and Jackson write the Hills asking for an interview. They tell the Hills that they are serious minded men whose interest is in "verifying the origin of these vehicles according to existing scientific theory maintained by Hermann Oberth." Oberth was of V-2 rocket fame. They did not reveal their place of employment but permission was granted. NOV. 25 Hohman and Jackson come to the house to interview the Hills. "Also visiting that day" is Major James McDonald, a long-time friend of the Hills and an Air Force intelligence officer. It appears he asks no questions about who Homan and Jackson are. The Hills had "discussed the case many times with Maj. McDonald." The three of them spend 12 hours talking to the Hills about their experience, including the "men" behind the glass. Major McDonald suggests hyp- nosis but does not know any therapists. The matter rests here for some time. Both Hills begin to be concerned about the incident and the chance they may have been hallucinating. MAR., 1962 Betty Hill writes to a doctor recommended by a colleague. The Hills see him and tell their stories. The doctor recommends they wait and see if the problem subsides on its own. No therapy is attempted. SUMMER, 1962 Barney begins to see a psychiatrist about his anxiety but only briefly mentions the UFO incident. SEPT., 1962 The Hills are invited to a "UFO Study Group" to informally talk about their experience. That meeting is taped, by whom Fuller does not say, un- known to the Hills. Betty talked of her dreams, the dream of the physical exam- ination. SEPT., 1963 The Hills tell their church discussion group about the UFO inci- dent. That same day Captain Ben Swett, from Pease AFB, was to talk about hyp- nosis, which he had made a personal hobby of his. The Hills are encouraged by Major McDonald to talk to their church friends about their experience and en- couraged by Capt. Swett to undergo hypnosis. Barney is experiencing extreme psychological disturbances as a result of the UFO sighting and abduction. He would die in the late 1960's at the age of 46. 113/157: Betty Hill part 2 FN : 55b9 Name: Barb Becker #106 @3466 Date: Sat Jun 02 02:11:53 1990 DEC., 1963 Barney's doctor calls in [refers us to] Dr. Benjamin Simon, well- known Boston psychiatrist. "While an undergraduate at Johns Hopkins University, he became interested in hypnosis...was Chief of Neuropsychiatry and Executive officer at Mason General Hospital, the Army's chief psychiatric center in World WarII." JAN., 1964 Sessions begin and material generated that would lead John Fuller's 1966 book THE INTERRUPTED JOURNEY and the 1975 television movie THE UFO INCI- DENT with James Earl Jones and Estelle Parsons. Dr. Simon had been technical advisor on a WWII movie made by John Huston called LET THERE BE LIGHT. JUNE, 1964 Sessions with Dr. Simon end. FALL [Oct.], 1965 Sensational articles run in Boston newspaper about the Hills experience. Information taken from tape made at the Sept., 1962 "UFO Study Group" meeting, provenance unknown. NOV., 1965 Unitarian Church in Dover, N.H., invites the Hills to talk. Hills meet with Admiral Knowles, NICAP, before they speak. Also on program is a Pub- lic Information Officer from Pease, AFB, who is a member of the Church [not a church member] and has helped set up the event. He does not attack the Hills. At this time a huge UFO flap was underway in the area and hundreds of people were turned away from the church on a cold and raw evening. The usual atten- dance for the weekly Unitarian sessions: 40 people. ***************************** AS YOU CAN SEE from the simple chronology above (assembled from John Fuller's book with difficulty) there is more going on in the Hill case than meets the eye. WHO WERE "HOMANN and C.D. Jackson?" Who were they really working for? Why was a "major electronics firm" paying them to investigate 60-year-old fairy tales a- bout Nikola Tesla? What "scientific theories" held by Hermann Oberth could be of interest to an "electronics firm." What we actually have here is a "cover" for intelligence activity. IN ALIENS FROM SPACE, 1973, Keyhoe says that these two "engineers" were "aiding NICAP." That is not the impression that is given in Fuller's book. In INTER- RUPTED JOURNEY the strong impression is that these two gentlemen simply had an independent interest due to a strange research assignment from their company. This could be accepted in 1966. In 1990 we know better. YOU SEE, by the fall of 1963 a gentleman named C.D. Jackson was working for Time/Life Corporation in an executive position. In fact, he was helping to ar- range a $25,000 payment to the widow of Lee Harvey Oswald. IN CASE YOU HAVE forgotten, Time/Life bought the Zapruder Film for $150,000 and then made sure it was not shown as a film for many years. Then, when it was shown, it had been obviously altered. David Lifton in BEST EVIDENCE says that the film was at the CIA's photo interpretation lab the day Time/Life bought it. DOES THE FACT THAT Donald Keyhoe had lunch with C.D. Jackson just after getting Betty Hill's letter "resonate" with you? It does with this author. Donald Key- hoe was, in UFOsearch's opinion, running a two-track operation. In the public and with his organization he was not interested in "contactee" stories. But on deep background he was involved with another investigation, one connected with the intelligence community. Were they running him? CONSIDER THIS. In ALIENS FROM SPACE Keyhoe says that "A well-known journalist, John Fuller, had learned of the case in a confidential talk at NICAP. It was arranged that he should prepare the record using Dr. Simon's taped questions and the Hill's answers." Then Keyhoe says: INTERRUPTED JOURNEY received a sur- prising amount of serious attention compared to the usual treatment of "con- tactee stories." How interesting. YES--AND THE "abduction story" has become a staple of the UFO investigator. In- deed, the sanitized Hill story became the ONLY abduction movie ever made --- before COMMUNION, 1989. And the Hill saga appeared only on the small screen, it never ran in theaters. The same could almost be said for COMMUNION which was not widely distributed and died a very quick death. It will be in video stores by mid-1990 which, I think, is the idea. OTHER QUESTIONS: How did it happen that one of the Hill's best friends was an Air Force Intelligence Officer who just happened to be visiting the day that Hohman and Jackson showed up? Isn't it interesting that they were the ones who first made the Hills aware of their "missing time?" Isn't it interesting that they were the ones who suggested hypnosis? ISN'T IT INTERESTING that the man finally called in to do the regressions on the Hills was the Executive officer of the Army's main psychiatric hospital during World War II, who did his undergraduate work at Johns Hopkins University whose wartime president was a member of MAJESTIC-12 and who was the technical advisor on the major WWII propaganda film made by the famous director John Huston? The Hills went through two other therapists before going to Simon. Did they have the money to pay this gentlemen, who must have been very, very expen- sive? This is something Fuller does not talk about. Did NICAP pay their way? UNPLEASANT POSSIBILITY The Hills were "set up" by the people dealing with the so-called "Greys" out in New Mexico. The Hill case was either a deep-cover check on what the "Greys" were doing under the "agreement" or it was an even deeper-cover attempt at "disinformation" to get "abductions" in play--safely. END HILL CASE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 114/157: Betty Hill part 3 FN : 55bb Name: Barb Becker #106 @3466 Date: Sat Jun 02 02:13:01 1990 March 20, 1990 Dear Barbara Becker, I have received your letter about my ufo experience, and I have pencilled in some corrections. As for more information regarding October 1965, the investigative reporter who wrote the articles, published in the Boston newspaper, for five days told me he obtained the information about our experience from two military officers at a cocktail party. They thought our experience whould be known to the public. My basic objections are to the conclusions, which are in error. As for Ho- man and C D Jackson, they were research scientists, working at top level gov- ernment jobs. Their HOBBY was ufos. As a job protection for them, we agreed not to release their employment, altho it was well known to us. C D Jackson was never associated with Time/Life. We had continuing contacts with them. Jackson, in 1966, was still working in Alabama, at the same employment. Most of our friends were officers at Pease AFB. Usually, we all met at the Officers Club every Friday night. Barney's best friend was a Lt. Col. in Intel- ligence. Jim McDonald was a Major; also a friend who dated one of my best friends. Later they married. We visited each other regularly. Jim McDonald suggested hypnosis because our mutual friend, Capt. Ben Swett, officer at Pease, did this. Ben felt his type of hypnosis was not adequate, as he used only a light stage, which is the stage of suggestibility. Dr Ben Simon had left military service years before we met him and he was in private practice. Dr Stephans referred us to him because he knew he used medi- cal hypnosis, taught in medical school, when Dr. Stephans had been one of his students. As for the movie, "Let Their Be Light" dealt with medical hypnosis used by Dr Simon to treat servicemen returning from WW2, and restoring them to good health. A wonderful movie - it should be released to the public. As for two therapists; we consulted one, one appointment. Barney was seen be Dr Duncan Stephans, but I was not. As for the cost of our appointments with Dr Simon, it is true he was very expensive. Our health insurance paid one-half of this. Bill was submitted for "therapy following ufo capture". We paid the remaining half, which was in the thousands of dollars. John Fuller did not learn of our experience from NICAP, or Donald Keyhoe. From them, he learned the information which resulted in his book, INCIDENT IN EXETER. He was in this area, gathering information for this, when the Boston newspaper articles were published. As for "Unpleasant Possibility" - Pure Paranoia! Nothing "sinister" about our experience or our friends. And the UFO definitely had nothing to do with New Mexico. It would be appreciated if you would send me a corrected copy for your com- puter. Nice to hear from you - Sincerely, Betty (signed) Betty Hill P.S. How I know those who captured us were not from New Mexico -- No alien- government base exists there. Apparently this story began when a woman in a light trance of hypnosis told of being taken there. Ed Conroy, a writer, and a friend Dora Ruffner did an investigation of this. They learned the locations of these so-called bases were located on the reser- vation of the Jicarilla Apache Tribe, a restricted area. So they met with the tribal leaders and obtained permission to research the areas, with guides and without them. They explored the areas. All they found was an abondoned water tower that had been used in the past when a railroad ran thru this area; also a house habited by an Apache family. No gravel roads, no towers, no government or any other kind of installations. Ed Conroy was the first person to research this report - He is a reporter on arts and electronic media for the San Antonio Express News. He should be in- cluded on your computer network. Betty Hill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 115/157: Betty Hill part 4 FN : 55bd Name: Barb Becker #106 @3466 Date: Sat Jun 02 02:14:30 1990 I wrote to Mrs. Hill again and thanked her for her comments and asked if she would like to make a statement for the BBS regarding her experience, the fol- lowing is her response. April 2, 1990 Dear Barbara Becker, I think probably the easiest way to answer your questions is to list the events as they occured. Let me say first, that in a case like ours, our conscious mind did not re- member all, but our subconscious mind did. We considered the beginning of our capture was the time when Barney was standing in the field, watching the craft, when one of the humanoids said some- thing to him, resulting in his panic and running back to the car, yelling they were trying to capture us. As we went speeding along the highway to avoid capture, we heard the beeping sounds, and the car vibrated. When Barney turned into a secondary road, I thought we knew a short cut on our way home, and did not question this. Then we saw what we called the moon setting on the ground. We assumed the moon was setting, and we could see the trees in front of this. The next, Barney turned onto a dirt road, in the direction of the setting moon. Before I could question him about this, we saw the men standing in the road, blocking our way - and we could not remember beyond this point. We remembered looking for the highway, but before we reached this, we saw the craft again as it passed over the secondary road in front of us. When we entered onto the main highway, we heard a second series of beeping sounds. And we came home, looking for the craft all the way and not seeing it. At home, Barney's first remark was "It is 5 o'clock, We should have been home by 3 AM at the latest." This time was from our kitchen clock, for both our watches had stopped running - this puzzled us, that both stopped about the same time. Barney began to unload our belongings from the car. We agreed they should not be brought into the house, so they were left on the back porch for a couple of days. Then we took long showers, shampoos for we felt "very dirty". We agreed that something had happened, we did not know what it was, but we could not talk about it. We would forget about it as quickly as possible. The next day I went out to my car, and found highly polished spots on the trunk in a circular pattern. I became very upset, saying maybe we had been ex- posed to something dangerous - the spots should be checked out. So I called my sister who called a physist who suggested checking the spots with a compass, which I did. When the compass was very erratic, I called my sister again to tell her of this. At that time a police officer was at her home, and I talked with him - told him about the night before. He said they had orders to tell witnesses to call Pease Air Force Base and report this sighting. So we called Pease and told them about the sighting, but ommitted about Barney seeing the humanoids. Our next step was to return to the Mountains, looking for a secondary road, the dirt road, thinking if we could find these, we could remember what happened after we saw the "men in the road". We went back regularly, in all kinds of weather, looking but not finding the dirt road. While we were there, we asked everyone we saw, if they ever saw anystrange lights in the sky, received hun- dreds of reports - meeting with groups of 50 or more at a time, who told of their sightings, but none with an experience similar to ours, which we did not discuss. About six to eight weeks after this experience, we came home one night, and found on the kitchen table a pile of dreid leaves. Our first response was - someone has been in our home! When I began to clean up the leaves, I found my blue ear rings I was wearing that night. That was panic - how did I lose them and who returned them? And how did they get into our home? Next was my dress. The second time I had worn this, and now it was covered with a pink powdery substance. I put it outside, and the powdery substance blew away, but it left pink stains all over my dress. Also the hem and some seams were torn - it had a built in lining - badly torn. To go back, to ten nights after this experience, I had a series of dreams, for five nights, of being captured, taken on board, given a physical exam. At that time, Barney worked midnight to 8 AM, so he was not here. I typed out these dreams and hid them, never discussed them until the time of our hypnosis with Dr. Simon. As for Hohman and Jackson, they had attended some kind of Geological Confer- ence in Washington DC and met Donald Keyhoe there. After the Conference they told him they had a hobby, and interest in flying saucers (the term at that time) He let them read Walt Webb's report of his meeting with us. Hohman wrote to us, asking to meet with us. We agreed for at than time, we knew nothing about ufos, and we were quietly seeking some explanation for our expereince. Hohman was from New York, and Jackson was from Alabama, so we need- ed to wait until these two were together. When they were here, Barney told them about the humanoid saying something to him, which he could not remember - this was very upsetting to him. We told them baout the setting moon just before we turned on to the dirt road. They said we could not have seen the moon, for it had already set. Panic by both of us. So they suggested we take a road map, and pinpoint our location at different times. We knew we had left Colebrook about 10 PM, the restaurant there. We were able to pinpoint the locations and times most of the way, but at one point be- tween Plymouth and Ashland was a blank. So they suggested we go back to this general area. Then we talked about time - we could drive to Canada in seven hours, and it had taken us seven hours to come home from Colebrook. There had to be an explanation. Later this was called a missing time period. But right from the beginning Barney and I knew the trip home was much longer then it should have been. We continued to go back to the mountains, looking for the dirt road, asking people about their sightings. Then we began asking if anyone had ever seen the people aboard the crafts. No. No one knew Barney had seen them and remembered this. continued.... 116/157: Betty Hill part 5 FN : 55bf Name: Barb Becker #106 @3466 Date: Sat Jun 02 02:15:32 1990 April 2, 1990 letter...continued. As for a hallucination, I was and am a trained social worker. I know the conditions which must exist for a hallucination to occur - for both people to have the same one, at the same time, does not happen. Dr. Simon confirmed this impossibility. As for the car incident, we both became upset at the same time, but I had already had my dreams. We were puzzled as to the reasons we responded the way we did. If we had no had all these upsetting events happen, without explanation, we would had never have spent thousands of dollars going to Dr. Simon. We went to him, to get rid of our anxieties, not for a ufo capture. He worked with us for seven months, every week. But I learned during these sessions when he was put- ting our amnesia back so we could not remember, that we must see him every week for him to reinforce the amnesia. If we did not do this, we would remember in about ten days - the same length of time, after this experience, that I had my dreams. Now I know I recalled these events, in my dreams, as a result of the lessening of their control of my memory. After our hypnosis, we went back to the area, and went directly to the sec- ondary road, to the dirt road. Found the cleared area in the woods where the craft was down. Since that time, three labs have tried to analyze the pink stains on my dress without success. I agree with you the field of UFOlogy is filled with disinformation. They have done more to cover real activities by ufos than any other group. As for my social worker background, I know that insecure people have a terrible time with things they do not understand, and must develop an explanation, satisfactory to themselves, which usually is a fantasy. I dislike the term "missing time" for everyone has missing time. The human brain is incapable of remembering every little detail of our lives, every moment. No one can remember everything that happened yesterday. I have worked with those who have been captured, and with those who would like to think they were. Five were real captures, reported almost immediately to the police, and in three cases, they were at the emergency room at the hos- pital within three hours. Then for the others - five were beginning to be men- tally ill, were committed, diagnosed, and treated. Later, one became a suicide. Then there are the hoaxes - I walked right thru the wall - how much did it cost for repairs? They call back in a few days, and tell me how they fooled the hyp- notist by telling weird tales, which were believed. Finally, there are those who are led astray by auto-suggestion, called hypnosis, by those using it. I can take anyone, and in fifteen minutes, thru a simple exercise can give them a ufo capture. But I am sure that they know it is only a "Flight of Fantasy". But it is the same kind of "hypnosis" others are using. It is not the hypnosis we had. We had the kind that is used in surgery. I would like to see all those who use the wrong kind, try to do some simple medical procedures. So many try to copy my experiences, so Dr. Simon wrote a segment about hyp- nosis, the types, testing and characteristics. No one apparently read or under- stood this section, pages 82 thru 85, for they ignore this. Unfortunately it is ruining the field of hypnosis, which does have good medical uses. I went to a conference of so-called abductees. One told of her experiences, right out of Star Trek. She took on the part played by Capt. Kirk. Used the same names as in the tv program. Later we told her this, so she went back and had "hypnosis" again and came up with a different capture. Such success. Such fairy tales they tell. Thanks for letting me set the record straight. Some times I have heard my experiences told in such a way, I did not recognize it. Sincerely, Betty (signed) Betty Hill -------------------------------------------------------------------------------