NUMBER OF LINES: 955 001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19 1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2$************************* 27 APR 92 ************************************** 3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator 4$************************************************************************** 5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately 8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general 9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the 10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all 11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the 12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data 13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out 14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering 15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to 16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up. 17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18$************************************************************************** 19$ 002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 04/26/92 23:25 Msg:7263 Call:40893 Lines:2 20 Life is a bitch. And then you wake up. 21 *************************************************************** 003=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 04/27/92 21:10 Msg:7266 Call:40899 Lines:13 22 ********************************************************** 23 Some may notice and others may not. New access permissons are 24 being applied to new users. After months of one user hoging 25 the system bitching about the school system, most everyone has left 26 to other pastures. So now I need to try to make this beast 27 more attrative to regain users. If you have any questions or 28 comments about the system, please feel free to do so. 29 For those who are new, BWMS is the second oldest BBS in Portland. 30 (CBBS/NW is the oldest.) No donations are taken for the operation 31 of the system. Archives of all past messages are available for those 32 who want to buy into the past. BWMS has seen better times. It is 33 probably going to see more of them in the future. 34 ******************* Cistop Mikey ********************************* 004=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 04/28/92 05:22 Msg:7267 Call:40901 Lines:11 35 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 36 At the top! At the top! On a clear disk you can see forever! 37 38 (It's been a while.) 39 40 Mikey- 41 Hey! I'll be here waiting for the new users. I kept on through the tough 42 times, and I will be here through the coming good times. Let's boogie! 43 44 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][]][][][][][] 45 005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 04/28/92 07:37 Msg:7269 Call:40902 Lines:7 46 &*&*&*&*'s 47 48 Count me in as well. 49 50 An Astral Dreamer 51 &*&*&*&*'s (Tell them the whole truth and they'll ask for a clarification.) 52 006=Usr:0 Null User 04/29/92 20:22 Msg:7271 Call:40935 Lines:6 53 Update on "Eagle's Nest" (643-xxxx)... 54 Will open officially MAY 2. Will be open all day May 2. 55 Will be open most of day May 3. 56 Hours are 11PM - 7AM then on. 57 NEEDS UPLOADS -- CALL SATURDAY MAY 2! 58 007=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/01/92 10:20 Msg:7272 Call:40955 Lines:8 59 &*&*&*&*'s 60 And so we lurk on the edge of tommorow. 61 Our eyes pointed always forward 62 63 An Astral Dreamer 64 &*&*&*&*'s (Modern life in its infinite grace. Look into the camera. Show 65 your face) 66 008=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/05/92 06:58 Msg:7276 Call:40992 Lines:11 67 &*&*&*&*'s 68 Well, It looks like I have a new full time job. They want to hire me, 69 and I go in tommorow to discuss pay and such. Life can indeed be 70 good. Now all I have to do is get my license so that I can avoid 71 the two or so hour bus ride each way. 72 73 I think I'll start saving for a house... 74 75 An Astral Dreamer 76 &*&*&*&*'s (Talk is cheap, sense is however at a premium.) 77 009=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/07/92 15:29 Msg:7277 Call:41015 Lines:5 78 79@If you don 80 If you do not make an entry, there will be nothing new. So enter something 81 already moron. 82 010=Usr:552 MAXWELL SMART 05/10/92 09:18 Msg:7281 Call:41036 Lines:10 83 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 84 85 86 Here comes a new guy onto the scene...Maxwell Smart's my name... 87 'Just grabbin' an eye-full of this BBS...maybe I'll drop by again 88 someday... 89 90 91 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 92 011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/11/92 17:54 Msg:7282 Call:41044 Lines:7 93 &*&*&*&*'s 94 First day at new job. Not to bad. More money, benifits and potential. 95 I'm REALLY REALLY lucky. 96 97 An Astral Dreamer 98 &*&*&*&*'s (Words) 99 012=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/12/92 18:41 Msg:7283 Call:41060 Lines:10 100 &*&*&*&*'s 101 Second day at new job. God I hate computers sometimes. Beats flipping 102 burgers though I guess. 103 104 "To busy running to ever 105 Think about wanting to stay" 106 107 An Astral Dreamer 108 &*&*&*&*'s (And so what?) 109 013=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/14/92 09:33 Msg:7285 Call:41072 Lines:3 110 111 It seems that typing 'en' is a bit tough for some people 112 014=Usr:186 Wesley Smith 05/15/92 03:42 Msg:7286 Call:41082 Lines:7 113 I can"t understand why some one who hates computers is on a BBS. Oh well some 114 day I will learn the trueth. I like them alot. I want to some day use my lap 115 top for packet radio. I am interested also in new technology for the visually 116 impared computer user, beeing one my self. in fact i am totally blind, and use 117 speach to read the screne. Well better go for now and get ready for the job as 118 I did not want to say the work word, oh well i said it any way. by for now.. 119 Wes Smith user number #186. Leave me a message if you are interested 015=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/16/92 06:24 Msg:7287 Call:41090 Lines:6 120 &*&*&*&*'s 121 Life 122 123 An Astral Dreamer 124 &*&*&*&*'s (Three words here) 125 016=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 05/18/92 04:37 Msg:7288 Call:41105 Lines:16 126 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 127 128 Wesley- What speech method are you using? Vert seemd to be the most popular 129 on my bulletin board. We hav several users with visual differences. I am 130 curious if you use a different method. Are you into packet radio now? I 131 was interested in Ham Radio for a whil, but then the computer bug hit me, and 132 I never got the CW down. Instead, I wrote a program to decode CW and encode 133 keystrokes into CW. It worked pretty good, and fit into the 4 K TRS-80 Model 134 one that I had at the time. I linked it up through a Heath HW-8 and had a ham 135 friend try it out for me. We QRPed together for a while. He was W6MKM in 136 California. 137 138 Talk to you later. 139 140 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]][][][] 141 017=Usr:0 Null User 05/18/92 19:04 Msg:7290 Call:41112 Lines:3 142 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 143 144@ATDT230-01 018=Usr:322 Stray Cat 05/18/92 19:08 Msg:7291 Call:41113 Lines:1 145 What do you today will affect the next seven generations 019=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 05/20/92 04:57 Msg:7294 Call:41145 Lines:2 146 Bull. Most of what I do today won't even effect this generation, other than 147 keeping me from starving. 020=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/21/92 04:00 Msg:7298 Call:41157 Lines:9 148 &*&*&*&*'s 149 Isn't seven generations rather arbitrary? Chaos theory would lead me to 150 believe that the actions of today have and effect on all things that come 151 after, though the ripples may be hard to find or understand in their 152 complexity. 153 154 An Astral Dreamer 155 &*&*&*&*'s (Its to early in the morning to think.) 156 021=Usr:186 Wesley Smith 05/22/92 08:07 Msg:7301 Call:41170 Lines:8 157 To answer a few questions, #1. I am using the votrax type"n talk and the 158 enhanced talking program screne reader program for speach. #2. I am currently 159 using packet radio as i need to run some new coax cable up to my antena, I am 160 using the heath pocket packet Tnc. and the Htx. #202 #2 meeter hand-held 161 tranceiver for packet radio. I hope this is helpfull to you, my ham call sign 162 is Ka7edb, I am in the domestic call book. I have been a ham for nearly #12. 163 years #11 of those years have been as a Technition. Well i guess that"s all i 164 have to say for now . Have a safe and happy Memorial weekend and remember that 022=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 05/22/92 19:00 Msg:7303 Call:41173 Lines:7 165 *%()_#@$*%_)@*%_)#@%*_)*%_)#@&%_#)@%^&*#@)_%*@_)%*_@)%*@_)#*%_)@#%*@)_*%_@*%_)@ 166 Hmm, that got cut off... How about "remember that drinking and baking is bad" 167 or something like that (very obscure Awnold reference)... 168 Also this weekend, don't do something behind someon else's back or it will get 169 you in big trouble... 170 *$%_#@*%_)@*%_)@*%_)@*%_)@*% L'homme sans Parity *%_)#@*%_)#@*_)@!*$_@)#*%#_)@* 171 023=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 05/23/92 07:36 Msg:7304 Call:41177 Lines:22 172 A Short Comparative Guide to Religious and Philosophical Thought 173 174 Taoism Shit happens. 175 Confucianism Confucious say; "Shit happens." 176 Calvinism Shit happens because you don't work hard enough. 177 Buddhism If shit happens, it really isn't shit. 178 Seventh Day Adventist No shit on Saturdays. 179 Zen What is the sound of shit happening? 180 Hedonism There's nothing like a good shit happening. 181 Hinduism This shit happened before. 182 Mormonism This shit is going to happen again. 183 Islam If shit happens, it is the will of Allah. 184 Moonism Only happy shit happens. 185 Stoicism This shit is good for me. 186 Protestantism Let the shit happen to someone else. 187 Catholicism Shit happens because you are BAD. 188 hare Krishna Shit happens rama rama. 189 Judaism Why does shit always happen to me? 190 Zoroastrianism Shit happens half the time. 191 Christian Science Shit is in the mind. 192 Atheism Shit doesn't really happen. 193 Existentialism What is shit anyway? 024=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 05/23/92 11:57 Msg:7305 Call:41178 Lines:1 194 ********************************************************************** 025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/23/92 12:36 Msg:7306 Call:41179 Lines:10 195 &*&*&*&*'s 196 And so I sit inside my room 197 And type away the time 198 199 The endless little keyboard larks 200 Fill my unused time 201 202 An Astral Dreamer 203 &*&*&*&*'s (What is a word? And does it happen?) 204 026=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/26/92 03:26 Msg:7307 Call:41192 Lines:13 205 206 It seems to me 207 Our eyes can see 208 Our navels but not our neighbor 209 210 We run around 211 Lost and found 212 Looking for a favour 213 214 And in the end 215 We try to mend 216 Our tiny little labor 217 027=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/28/92 06:28 Msg:7308 Call:41217 Lines:1 218 028=Usr:700 SYMORE DEEF 05/28/92 19:22 Msg:7309 Call:41229 Lines:3 219 YOU CAN PICK YOUR FRIENDS 220 YOU CAN PICK YUR NOSE 221 BUT YOU CAN'T PICK YOUR FRIENDS NOSE 029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/29/92 03:28 Msg:7310 Call:41232 Lines:17 222 223 You are on the run 224 Game had just begun 225 Playing to the pain 226 Life must move again 227 228 You are on the run 229 Images are done 230 Can begin to see 231 Way that you can be 232 233 You are on the run 234 Was it just for fun? 235 Actions were insane 236 On the run again 237 238 030=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 05/29/92 11:41 Msg:7313 Call:41242 Lines:6 239 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Back from College!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 240 241 I am currently typing this into a terminal with a 1.25 inch by 1.5 inch 242 screen. The effect is truly bizarre, but it's also quite neat. 243 244 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Yes, I am sane as well.................... 031=Usr:322 Stray Cat 05/29/92 13:17 Msg:7314 Call:41244 Lines:1 245 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 032=Usr:721 Jeff Marten 05/30/92 00:01 Msg:7315 Call:41250 Lines:49 246 247 248 {+}{+}{+}{+} 249 250 L I F E I N T H E F O O D C H A I N 251 by 252 ThingFish 253 "The Anti-" 254 255 256 You're in a fast food restaurant. Sitting on a brightly 257 colored plastic bench, elbows propped up on the wood-grain 258 {ormica, comfortably bathed in piped in muzak and oxygen, 259 you're about to enjoy that towering icon of American Cuisine, 260 that hand launched belly bomb that truly satisfies like 261 nothing else can: a hamburger. 262 263 Then it strikes. Eco-guilt. You can just feel it...you 264 hold in your hand a quarter pound (weight before cooking) of 265 the finest Brazilian Rainforest beef that roaring bulldozers 266 and raging fires can deliver. 267 268 The question isn't "What can I do to save the 269 Rainforests?" The question is "What can I do to get rid of 270 this guilt? I'm trying to eat, for chrissakes." 271 272 Look at it this way. 273 274 Untold numbers, entire SPECIES perhaps, of as yet 275 undiscovered, potentially cancer-curing tropical tree frogs 276 DIED so that you could hold that hamburger in your hand. It 277 would be a shame not to enjoy it. 278 279 Don't let the little buggers down. 280 281 If you don't order that burger, it'll just sit under the 282 heatlamps until closing time, and then some homeless person 283 will pick it out of the dumpster. 284 285 What kind of legacy is that for the noble little tree 286 frog that could have provided the cure for cancer in our 287 lifetime? 288 289 -+|[ ThingFish ]|+- 290 You Want Fries With That? 291 292 293 {+}{+}{+}{+{ 294 033=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 05/31/92 07:50 Msg:7317 Call:41266 Lines:22 295 &*&*&*&*'s 296 Flying by the seat of my pants 297 Must be painfull eh? 298 Gotta wonder what it is 299 I'm striving for today 300 301 Stringing words 302 Across the screen 303 Tiny bits that go unseen 304 Scrolling like minute birds 305 To make it to the top 306 307 Mantra of the quantum age 308 Turning the electron page 309 Up until the final tick 310 Don't these crashes make you sick? 311 Just give me one more mega-flop 312 To model thru the day 313 314 An Astral Dreamer 315 &*&*&*&*'s (Its in the blood, and going to my head) 316 034=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/01/92 03:48 Msg:7318 Call:41274 Lines:1 317 035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/06/92 10:56 Msg:7323 Call:41324 Lines:6 318 319 All that we are 320 Is the sum of the past 321 Our future 322 Is 323 036=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/08/92 10:59 Msg:7324 Call:41340 Lines:13 324 325 Never more than now 326 Never sade just how 327 Kinder than we were 328 Time to fly 329 The third 330 331 More than what we were 332 Less than that in fact 333 How we found the land 334 I can not 335 to stand 336 037=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/08/92 17:48 Msg:7325 Call:41349 Lines:7 337 338 ----- 339 340 Tumble words together 341 Each one a wordsmiths toy 342 343 ----- 038=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/09/92 08:01 Msg:7327 Call:41355 Lines:1 344 039=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/10/92 03:39 Msg:7330 Call:41365 Lines:10 345 Slow, 346 So very slow 347 these keystrokes 348 missed in haste 349 350 Many though they 351 are 352 There is so little 353 waste 354 040=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/13/92 13:20 Msg:7337 Call:41405 Lines:28 355 356 Now somehow it all seems differant. 357 Linger on the gathering gloom 358 Wander on to someplace else 359 A place I haven't seen 360 361 Till the other shoe falls 362 And another day passes 363 And on some cruise ship in the blue tinged sea 364 Another fine song is sung 365 366 Let the future tell the stories of the past 367 And let the past fancy the future 368 Nobody ever meets theirselves 369 Always halfway inbetween 370 371 Motor to the ridge and look out on the sea 372 Another time, another day 373 Scenes from the eye 374 Lets write in the blanks 375 376 Mantra in the mind 377 Passage so sublime 378 Anchor of time 379 The last short ryme 380 381 Motor 382 041=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/15/92 03:20 Msg:7338 Call:41423 Lines:17 383 -- 384 385 The fast and untrained feeling 386 burning downthe house 387 Mad of something differant 388 Here the idle pout 389 390 Changing with the seasons 391 Always on the slow 392 mild manner ending 393 fire feels a blow 394 395 Had a differant silence 396 Seemed like all the noise 397 difference in colour 398 put down all you're toys 399 042=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/16/92 03:47 Msg:7339 Call:41425 Lines:9 400 401 Onto, into, file it away 402 Matter is the energy 403 of every sunny day 404 405 Cold like all those manners 406 They teach us of in school 407 Square peg 408 043=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/18/92 03:26 Msg:7341 Call:41440 Lines:10 409 ==== 410 411 Desk sitter people sit back and lament 412 Another wasted login spent 413 414 Cold Hearted mute tht rules the disk 415 Remove the shuters from our sight 416 417 To read is nice, to write divine 418 And we decide which is right, and which is just using 044=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/18/92 18:22 Msg:7342 Call:41452 Lines:1 419 045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/19/92 12:03 Msg:7343 Call:41453 Lines:22 420 &*&*&*&*'s 421 The activity level around here has certainly fallen off a bit. Oh well, 422 nature abhores a vacume. 423 424 I think I've found the secret to being happier. Its rather simple really. 425 All you have to do is confront the things that make you unhappy. Progress 426 doesn't come over night, but it does come. And for me anyway, confrontation 427 turns out to be a bit easier than running away all the time. 428 429 The biggest hurdle is dealing with the fact that in some ways I'm an adult, 430 while in others I'm very immature. I think people probably get the wrong 431 ideas about me sometimes. That doesn't bother me very much anymore. I 432 used to worry so much about what people thought about me that it made me 433 nearly totally dysfunctional. Seems stupid now that I look back on it. 434 435 With any luck, I'll atleast go down fighting. And who knows, I might even 436 end up leading a fairly normal, happy and well adjusted life. Somehow, that 437 prospect doesn't scare me anymore. 438 439 An Astral Dreamer 440 &*&*&*&*'s (Better post, or I'll ramble on like this forever!) 441 046=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/20/92 03:59 Msg:7344 Call:41457 Lines:1 442 047=Usr:31 The Doctor 06/22/92 12:39 Msg:7346 Call:41473 Lines:16 443 ???????? 444 Dreamer: I've learned that everyone is immature and adult. The secret is to 445 be able to differentiate between the two. You have to know when to be "adult" 446 and when to not. There is nothing wrong with acting like a kid occasionally. 447 It allows us to vent our "adult" frustrations in a non-violent way. In my 448 lowly opinion, acting stupid and childish every once in a while is "normal." 449 (No, I don't want to get into what's "normal"...) 450 451 As for the secret to happiness...It's just one thing. It's whatever is most 452 important to YOU. Not to everyone else.... 453 454 Well, I've blathered on long enough....time to go back to "work." 455 456 PS: In my case, my secret of happiness is my fiancee' Lesley....just 7 more 457 months until the big day..... 458 ???????? The Doctor 048=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/22/92 17:02 Msg:7347 Call:41474 Lines:7 459 &*&*&*&*'s 460 My problem is a lot more fundamental then that alas. I won't go into detail 461 though. 462 463 An Astral Dreamer 464 &*&*&*&*'s (Life, just a little bit isn't enough) 465 049=Usr:576 Robert Doherty 06/23/92 20:17 Msg:7348 Call:41488 Lines:2 466 Well Thingfish, it is lonely at the top......of the food chain. 467 B 050=Usr:186 Wesley Smith 06/24/92 18:48 Msg:7349 Call:41496 Lines:5 468 Hi i just want to add a few words about happyness. 469 It"s what ever you want it to mean to you, wheather it "s materialism or 470 spiretual or esoteric. Happyness is in my opinion being with good friends 471 being crazy and having a good time laughing and letting my hair down. and 472 listening to some good music or hamming it up on 2 meeters or 10 meeters. So 051=Usr:31 The Doctor 06/25/92 13:49 Msg:7350 Call:41499 Lines:1 473 ???????????? DocLurk 052=Usr:316 scott wirth 06/25/92 19:53 Msg:7351 Call:41502 Lines:3 474 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 475 Doc-write me...... Uncle Shawni has the address........Sir Osis Of Liver 476 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 053=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/26/92 03:34 Msg:7352 Call:41503 Lines:4 477 &*&*&*&*'s 478 The joys of driving. Maybe I'll even have my license in a week or two. 479 An Astral Dreamer 480 &*&*&*&*'s 054=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/26/92 23:19 Msg:7353 Call:41508 Lines:1 481 055=Usr:31 The Doctor 06/29/92 06:42 Msg:7354 Call:41520 Lines:3 482 ?????????????? 483 Sir Osis: KO 484 ?????????????? The Doctor 056=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 06/29/92 10:17 Msg:7355 Call:41521 Lines:8 485 486 e 487 &*&*&*&*'s 488 Ever lost your wallet? Don't bother, it sucks. 489 490 An Astral Dreamer 491 &*&*&*&*'s (Money Money Money. Three words that just aren't funny) 492 057=Usr:731 Justin Klein 06/29/92 21:51 Msg:7356 Call:41529 Lines:27 493 =============================Justin the Blue================================ 494 Sorry I was away for so long. Things have gotten rather tough around 495 the old homstead. The reason I dropped off to begin with is that the neat 496 $8.50/hour drafting job I'd found laid me off right out of the blue in 497 February. I then found another job, but that was on-call, not a lot of 498 hours; then I found a messenger job, but was fired from that in a termination 499 that had all the style and grace of an ambush...after only about two weeks. 500 501 When life gets this rough, I lose interest. I really envy Astral Dreamer, 502 who is right now enjoying the kind of success I thought going to all the 503 bother of getting a degree in drafting would...at least...help me get around. 504 As it turns out, lots of work has left me no better off than before; I'm 505 still scraping (along with my wife) for subsistence...will we have the 506 rent this month, will the next employer who hires me screw me again.... 507 I'm pretty bitter about it all. 508 509 I don't want to own the world. I just don't want to have to worry abut 510 paying the bills in my corner of it. 511 512 Sorry to dump on you all like this. Take it as an explanation of why I 513 disappeared so suddenly. I'll be back, now and again, and maybe a little 514 more regularly. Just to chat though; philosophy, I've found, comes to me 515 more easily when I"m not worrying about things. 516 517 He who reads and understand this post 518 should read no other. 519 ============================Justin the Blue==================================== 058=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 06/30/92 06:16 Msg:7357 Call:41530 Lines:10 520 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 521 522 JustinK 523 I appreciate your situation, having been there many times myself. Just a note 524 of caution, though. I don't know anyone who isn't worried about whether or 525 not the bills get paid. Higher pay generally means higher bills. As much as 526 people say they can live leaner, I don't knwo anyone who does it. 527 Keep hanging in there, it can get better. 528 [][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 529 059=Usr:731 Justin Klein 06/30/92 20:49 Msg:7358 Call:41537 Lines:25 530 ============================Justin the Blue================================ 531 Friar: 532 I know the one about higher pay = higher bills. We are pretty disciplined 533 people though: when windfalls in the past have come, we usually start paying 534 bills that have accrued. We pay cash whenever even remotely possible; we 535 treat credit as though we would be selling off our souls. 536 The only bills we tend to have are your basics. Fortunately, our 537 appetites are small, and if I may be bold and sound arrogant (sorry if so). 538 , we like to think that under our roof, if the means increase, the eyes won't 539 automatically get larger than the income. 540 What you said is a good reminder though, and if somebody didn't tell this 541 to me, I'd probably forget. 542 543 -------------------- 544 In world news: there's a man playing at Wimbledon who's a Frenchman; his 545 name is pronounced "zhee for-zhay" (best I can do in ASCII...). Spelled 546 out? Guy Forget. Wierdest name I've ever seen.... 547 548 "Man will never penetrate outer space." 549 -Kehlog Albran, 1948 550 "Man will never penetrate outer space without a rocket." 551 -Kehlog Albran, 1963 552 553 He who reads and understand this post, should read no other. 554 ===============================Justin the Blue================================= 060=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/02/92 02:17 Msg:7359 Call:41547 Lines:14 555 &*&*&*&*'s 556 Justin, things will get better. Hang in there. These sorts of ups and downs 557 are a fact of life in the economy of the 90's. I live in fear that the 558 company I am working for is going to go under. I was very lucky to get 559 my current job, and I know the chances of that happening again are slim. 560 561 I think we've all had these sorts of problems at one time or another. I have 562 a friend who got his degree nearly a year ago, and just recently managed to 563 get a decent job. In fact, I have two friends who fit that discription. But 564 eventually, they both managed to find decent work. It just takes awhile. 565 566 An Astral Dreamer 567 &*&*&*&*'s (Oh no, how do I cash my check without any ID?) 568 061=Usr:731 Justin Klein 07/03/92 19:53 Msg:7360 Call:41553 Lines:28 569 =============================Justin the Blue================================ 570 Appreciate your words of encouragement, AD. I believe them. I have a 571 historically obstinate attitude that remains pessimistic, though. 572 573 You know how it is that just when you don't need something to go wrong, 574 though, something always does? My cat had to go to the vet today. 575 $310, or he would have been dead by Sunday at the latest (his urinary 576 tract was blocked). 577 578 Now, here's a reason I have for some cheer: my Mother-in-law. Yes, Mom-in 579 -law, the cause of more divorces (so some have told me) since infidelity. 580 Ma is kind of a hard person to take sometimes, but when the chips are down, 581 she's always been there. She's saved us from eviction twice so far this 582 year. Looks like she'll do it again. 583 584 I came from a supportive family, but Ma has taught me much about being there 585 for someone if you can that my family didn't. 586 587 Right now, we're kind of coping around here. 588 589 And by the way, thanks for letting me unload around here, everyone who's 590 being bored by this series of "poor me" posts. It's doing a little bit to 591 help keep me sane, and every little bit helps. 592 593 594 Those who read and understand this post should 595 read no other. 596 =============================Justin the Blue================================== 062=Usr:733 JHONATHAN THORN 07/03/92 21:11 Msg:7361 Call:41555 Lines:7 597 598 599 600 601 LiFe SuCkS HaRdCoRe 602 603  063=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/04/92 06:56 Msg:7362 Call:41557 Lines:11 604 &*&*&*&*'s 605 Unload all you want Justin. I know I've done a lot of it here on Backwater, 606 and I'm certainly not going to begrudge anybody else the right. 607 608 Just talking about it ofteen makes things better. Beats keeping it pent up ins 609 ide at any rate. 610 611 An Astral Dreamer 612 &*&*&*&*'s (A driving I will go, A driving I will go.) 613 614 064=Usr:736 rob thorn 07/05/92 21:06 Msg:7363 Call:41577 Lines:23 615 ############################################################################### 616 ############################################################################### 617 618 619 TO: ALL 620 621 I'm Not Nut's Imm just raming my head in to the monitor 622 And the shrink in the computer wants me to xspres my ttrue feelings 623 About killing small woodland aniamles 624 625 626 Z 627 I 628 P 629 P 630 Y 631 "ZIPPY" 632 633 634 ############################################################################### 635 ############################################################################### 636 637 065=Usr:731 Justin Klein 07/06/92 19:38 Msg:7364 Call:41586 Lines:43 638 ==============================Justin the Blue================================== 639 Wow. I'm impressed by the subtle stylings and intrinsic meanings of the 640 preceding post. Also, I like contracting anthrax. 641 642 Here's something new: the new Thomas Guide for the Portland Metro area 643 is out. I got a ZIP Code copy today at Powell's Travel Store. 644 645 What is a Thomas Guide? It's a map of the area, divided into pages and 646 assembled atlas form. Thomas Bros. Maps has made these for many a year, 647 for Portland since about 1975, and had always did a good job of mapping the 648 area accurately, without much error. The past two years...the '92 and '93 649 Guides...have been done on computer. Not only does this allow them to easily 650 update from one edition to the next, but they have started using much more 651 color and enlarged the pages 30% from the older, hand-drawn format. The 652 maps are readable and attractive. 653 654 I'm a mapping affectionado, so this was a must for me. Anyone that needs 655 a good map for delivery or other such purposes (cab driving, for instance), 656 needs this atlas. Period. Many errors in the first digitally-produced 657 edition have been corrected, and I"m currently searching this one for the 658 next. 659 660 It covers everything from Saint Helens (the city, not the mountain) and 661 Ridgefield WA on the north to Aurora OR on the south, and from Forest Grove 662 and Gaston on the west to Welches on the east. It even has a corner of 663 McMinnville in it. 664 665 If you can spend the money for it, get it. Don't even look at Pittmon's 666 product...the call it "The Better Map" but havent lived up to it in years, 667 and probably wont until they get with it and hire me (yes, Oregon Blue Print 668 has my resume and will soon get another). Some people never learn, though. 669 I'll probably have to come up with my own publishing company to get them 670 on the ball. Arrogant? Sure. But those who know my work know that this 671 is no idle boast. I draw a hell of a map... 672 673 Oh. Sorry. I digress. Anyway, just go get the map. It's the best 674 Thomas Bros. ever have done. It's $16.95 at Powell's Travel, $23.95 for 675 the ZIP Code version, and there's a Census Tract version which is probably 676 $23.95 too, but I'm not sure. 677 678 ...Those who read and understand this post should read.... 679 .....no other. ...... 680 ==============================Justin the Blue================================= 066=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/09/92 06:08 Msg:7365 Call:41601 Lines:8 681 &*&*&*&*'s 682 Nothing much to say right now. 683 684 Think of this as an extended lurk. 685 686 And Astral Dreamer 687 &*&*&*&*'s (Shorter then some, Taller then many) 688 067=Usr:731 Justin Klein 07/09/92 19:48 Msg:7366 Call:41607 Lines:36 689 ============================Justin the Blue=================================== 690 Nothing much substantial to say...or maybe so. 691 To correct my prior post about the Thomas Guide, St. Helens the peak AND 692 the Oregon town are included in the '93 edition, and matter of fact, always 693 have been. What I should have said is that detail of the south half of 694 St Helens, Oregon is now included in the *detail* section of the atlas. 695 696 I've always found it interesting that St Helens and Rainier are mountains 697 in Washington, and towns in Oregon that are merely good viewpoints for the 698 peaks. It's subtle geographic irony. If you don't see the "humor", don't 699 feel bad. It's just people like me with trivial minds who concern themselves 700 with needless points of detail. Blatherblatherblather. Anyway. 701 702 My PDX map archive has grown by three. I've found a place that usually 703 has a used map of Portland that I don't yet, and now I have gas-station- 704 style maps from the late 1940's through the Rand McNally's and Gousha's 705 of the current day. It's a real education in how Portland and her sister 706 towns have grown and I spend hours comparing them and compiling the changes. 707 Some old maps aren't availible for me to own; that's okay...at least I can 708 go to the Wilson Room at the Central Branch Library and take notes and (I hope 709 ) make tracings. 710 711 Other news...hmm, I see Clinton has chosen Senator Gore as his Veep-hopeful. 712 This is going to be an interesting campaign after all. I wish Perot would 713 quit being such a weenie and declare already -- I don't really find him 714 entertaining anymore -- seen in an editorial cartoon today: a worker at Rand 715 McNally cracking up -- "I just can't take it anymore! First they break up the 716 Soviet Union, now they're moving California!" -- more geographical irony. 717 Work at the map houses must be interesting these days. 718 719 Now if they'd just draw city maps worth thier reputations... 720 721 Happy lurking, Dreamer. 722 723 >>>>>>>>>>Those who read and understand this post should read no other<<<<<<<<< 724 ==============================Justin the Blue================================== 068=Usr:731 Justin Klein 07/12/92 12:07 Msg:7367 Call:41630 Lines:23 725 =============================Justin the Blue=================================== 726 Now, our other kitty, Rodger, has been to the vet's. Another $300 vet bill, 727 but they're letting us pay in parts over three months. Still a dent, but at 728 least we may be able to pay it off without help from Mom. 729 I wonder what it feels like to be able to pay all one's bills. I've never 730 known that. 731 Rodger's problem was that he'd been fighting a virus and not doing it very 732 well. This is in itself a relief, since the doctor suspected he may be down 733 with Feline leukemia or maybe Feline AIDS. She was very happy when he resp- 734 onded after only a night of fluid therapy. 735 Trouble with Rodger is that he's a little black and white kitty who has 736 always been on the spindly side, and always nervous and skittish; he's only 737 recently opened up to his person (my wife) even close to the way my kitty 738 (who has always been very friendly and affectionate) does. So if Rodger gets 739 even more aloof and distant than before, it's hard to tell if he's ill or 740 just in a bad mood. Turned out he was badly dehydrated; he hadn't eaten or 741 drank in well over a day. 742 Our little friend is healthy, and that's not just small comfort. 743 Of course, he's still an idiot. I think that's one of the things that 744 endear us so to him. 745 746 >>>>>>>>Those who read and understand this post should read no other.<<<<<<<<<< 747 ============================Justin the Blue==================================== 069=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/13/92 04:35 Msg:7368 Call:41636 Lines:8 748 &*&*&*&*'s 749 Still working on getting my license. Driving is becoming less of a stress, 750 and more of a joy. I've spent so much of my life waiting for other people, 751 that having this freedom is that much sweeter. 752 753 An Astral Dreamer 754 &*&*&*&*'s (Life on the shoulder) 755 070=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/14/92 07:14 Msg:7370 Call:41644 Lines:1 756 071=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/15/92 03:01 Msg:7371 Call:41651 Lines:14 757 &*&*&*&*'s 758 The sky a shade of blue 759 The house a shade off that 760 The moon up in the sky 761 Has grown so very fat 762 763 And now its come to you 764 But where now will it go? 765 To mumble is to try 766 For those who do not know 767 768 An Astral Dreamer 769 &*&*&*&*'s (A tone on eternity) 770 072=Usr:731 Justin Klein 07/16/92 20:52 Msg:7372 Call:41674 Lines:23 771 =============================Justin the Blue=================================== 772 Just got through watching that Democratic National Convention tonight. There 773 was some amazing speechifying. Mario Cuomo: I can see why so many Demos what 774 him to run for President...he reads the speech which inspriation and vigour, 775 and you can see that he believes in his cause. Al Gore: Opened his speech 776 by saying that since he was a kid, he'd always wanted to open at the Garden 777 for Elvis. Most inspirational. Man had the convention in the palm of his h 778 hand, and played it like a fine instrument. True oratorial genius. Bill 779 "Elvis" Clinton: nearly put 'em ta sleep at the "88 con, made up for it and 780 more tonight. 781 782 Now, we watch the Republicans. 783 784 They're still trying to sort out what Perot's geronimo-exit will mean. 785 From the divergence of opinion, it's clear that nobody has any damned idea 786 whether it will be good for the Reps, the Dems, bad for both, or neutral 787 for both. 788 789 And there I thought that the campaign would be a yawner. Politics is in 790 the air, folx! 791 792 >>>>>>>>>>Those who read and understand this post should go fishing.<<<<<<<<<<< 793 =============================Justin the Blue=================================== 073=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/18/92 09:40 Msg:7375 Call:41686 Lines:11 794 &*&*&*&*'s 795 I suspect Perot will be an interesting footnote in history. What were his 796 motivations? Was he being above board? Is there still a secret agenda? 797 798 799 Wierd stuff. Very wierd stuff. 800 801 An Astral Dreamer 802 &*&*&*&*'s (I do the appropriate thing at the appropriate time for the optimal 803 result.) 804 074=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/20/92 03:01 Msg:7376 Call:41692 Lines:11 805 806 Polish up those old familiar faces 807 They have the look of life 808 The face with all the promises 809 810 The car is overburdened now 811 It doesn't hold its own 812 The car within the premises 813 814 Tone 815 075=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/21/92 10:28 Msg:7377 Call:41705 Lines:1 816 076=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/22/92 05:18 Msg:7383 Call:41717 Lines:11 817 818 Oh the sun it comes up easy 819 But my eyes seem oh so slow 820 And I'm just thinkin about the only thing 821 That keeps me on this road 822 823 Oh the trafic lights seem endless 824 And my breath feels oh so cold 825 Off the window by the front seat 826 Its like the stories I have told 827 077=Usr:31 The Doctor 07/25/92 09:24 Msg:7384 Call:41746 Lines:4 828 ??????????? 829 AD: Did you get your license yesterday? (Friday) 830 ???????? The Doctor 831 078=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/26/92 14:39 Msg:7385 Call:41770 Lines:1 832 079=Usr:549 alan kennedy 07/26/92 19:39 Msg:7386 Call:41776 Lines:10 833 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 834 Here's my variation to 'You can pick your friends, but' near the top.... 835 836 You can pick your friend 837 You can pick your nose 838 But you can't wipe your friends on the back of the couch. 839 840 HAVE A NICE DAY 841 THE GRIZZLY 842 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 080=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/27/92 02:32 Msg:7387 Call:41778 Lines:8 843 &*&*&*&*'s 844 My test? No, I didn't. Lets just say I'm not very happy with myself or the 845 DMV right now. Oh well, almost nobody seems to pass the bloody think on 846 the first try. 847 848 An Astral Dreamer 849 &*&*&*&*'s 850 081=Usr:4 Milchar 07/27/92 07:08 Msg:7388 Call:41779 Lines:8 851 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 852 After oh-so-very-carefully wending my way through cyberspace, I made it! 853 This important message brought to you by: Internet, Alternet, Quiche Labs, 854 and a Magenta Star. 855 CM: Drop me a line. 856 Doc: What's this, you get a modem and then you're the scourge of cyberspace? 857 AD: How's the SB? 858 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++++++ 07/27/92 11:02 ++++++++++++++++ 082=Usr:31 The Doctor 07/27/92 09:11 Msg:7389 Call:41780 Lines:3 859 ???????????? 860 Michy, Baby: I try, I really do. 861 ??????? The Doctor 083=Usr:31 The Doctor 07/27/92 18:40 Msg:7391 Call:41789 Lines:1 862 ?????????? DocLurk 084=Usr:731 Justin Klein 07/27/92 22:53 Msg:7392 Call:41792 Lines:28 863 ==========================Justin the Blue=================================== 864 Today was an odd day, and a good day. 865 It was odd because of an coincidental occurrence. See, last year in 866 Corvallis I was a night janitor at The Beanery (which, for those who 867 do not know, is like Starbucks, only with true Bohemian charm. Precious 868 gems). I worked at the 2nd Street Bean (downtown), and knew of a gent 869 name of Edgar who worked uptown at the 26th and Monroe Bean (the campus 870 branch). So, there I was, at the front of my 4-plex, looking east toward 871 50th and Powell where that big auto body shop fire was (I could see the 872 smoke plume), and who should be walking down my street but...Edgar. 873 Now, in a town like Corvallis I might imagine such a chance meeting. But, 874 here, PDX, after moving away from Corvallis...out of all the places we 875 two could have been in the Metro, what were the chances that he would 876 have been walking down my street just when I was at the front of my 877 house. 878 Wild. 879 It was a good day because I'd been notified that Multnomah County wants 880 to give me an interview to become a Office Assisstant. I interview on 881 Wednesday, and I really hope to get it. This is good, worthwhile employment. 882 883 AD:If it's not too personal, how old are you? Did you just recently 884 turn of driving age or did you put off getting your license? My sympathies 885 on your not passing your test. On the bright side, consider I just got my 886 license renewed, and the ID pic is bad enough to make me consider giving 887 up driving. 888 I mean it. It's really a dog. Wuff. 889 >>>>>>>Those who read and understand this post should read no other.<<<<<<<<<<< 890 =============================Justin the Blue=================================== 085=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/28/92 02:50 Msg:7393 Call:41793 Lines:13 891 &*&*&*&*'s 892 I'm 25. Put it off till now, since I didn't have the money or the need. 893 BTW, I live off powell myself. About 30 blocks or so in the upward 894 direction from where you are Justin. 895 896 Milch, you gotta call in more ofteen. The SB is working fine. Its sitting 897 in Greggs '386, as I still haven't gotten my Dos machine up. I'll get it 898 back from him just as he's starting to like it no doubt. Howes the trade 899 items working? 900 901 An Astral Dreamer 902 &*&*&*&*'s (Work is no substitute for a life. But atleast it pays.) 903 086=Usr:4 Milchar 07/28/92 08:03 Msg:7394 Call:41795 Lines:6 904 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 905 AD: Having two slip links between me and BW is really painful. Each of these 906 lines takes at least two minutes to enter, if I wait for echo. If I don't, 907 there are errors. C'est la vie. The drive works great with my own 908 controller card. 909 ++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++ 07/28 11:58 +++++++++++++++++ 087=Usr:731 Justin Klein 07/28/92 18:41 Msg:7398 Call:41803 Lines:20 910 ============================Justin the Blue================================== 911 So, AD, you live up Powell from me? How was the traffic the other day when 912 YSPD burned down...or were you home then? I don't know about you, but I 913 think Southeast is the second nicest place to live in town. Northwest is 914 the best. I and my wife hope to make our residence off NW 23rd someday. 915 916 And as a Blazer fan, I'd like to go on record as someone who'd love to see 917 the Blazer management leave town. Just so long as they'd leave the team 918 behind. As far as them, I wonder if they could set up and NBA franchise 919 in a REAL small market...like Whitehorse. 920 921 I'm well into getting keyed up for my job interview tomorry....it's nice 922 to have good news for a change. 923 924 I think after this there will be little enough room to leave another 925 posting....although someone certainly will try. 926 927 >>>>>>Those who read and understand this get a brownie button.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 928 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Whatever those are.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 929 ==========================Justin the Blue==================================== 088=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/29/92 02:53 Msg:7399 Call:41807 Lines:14 930 &*&*&*&*'s 931 Justin, trafic was hell. 932 933 I like SE as well. Decent neighborhood, reasonable rents, lots of stores and 934 such within walking distance. 935 936 Milch, Your big problem is the internet to qiclab leg of the journey. 937 How many jumps does traceroute show between here and there? BTW, the 938 echo problem is BW. I've noticed it myself under similiar circumstances, 939 but only here. Most frustrating. 940 941 An Astral Dreamer 942 &*&*&*&*'s (Mostly its just endless, Its how we spend our time.) 943 089=Usr:744 Anarchist Cook 08/13/92 14:46 Msg:7445 Call:42001 Lines:7 944 OK, so Internet can get in, but can you send out to internet here? What's the 945 adress here? Thanx.... 946 / \ 947 | | | 948 \ \ 949 | | | 950 \ / 090=Usr:744 Anarchist Cook 08/24/92 12:08 Msg:7457 Call:42115 Lines:5 951 952 953 ****************************************************************************** 954 Blessed are the hamradio operators for they shall inherit the EM spectrum. 955 ******************************************************************************