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The approach I took was not a good one. 31 32 Frustration can make us do foolish things. It can make us hurt ourselves, and 33 try to hurt others. My personal integrity is VERY important to me. I don't 34 really have much else. When people accuse me of being a stodgy for a boss 35 That I've spoken to maybe half a dozen times in the last 3+ years... Lets 36 just say it seems silly. 37 38 It is very easy to be half assed in ones opinions and beliefs. Information is 39 hard to come by. Fatigue is inevitable. Our best efforts net maybe half the 40 information we really need to know what is going on. Caution and persoverence 41 are good traits, as is the ability to change over time. I pity you if you 42 believe that all the views you now hold are correct. 43 44 An Astral Dreamer 45 &*&*&*&*'s (Just passing the time.) 004=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 01:47 Msg:6915 Call:38988 Lines:10 46 XXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO 47 48 Sounds like dear Dr. Doran Duran'sgoing into "Taxi Driver" mode. I 49 wonder of he's a another casualty of the school system.Why doesn't 50 SOMEBODY *DO* a bo????? 51 52 AD: It doesn't really matter if I shoot myself in the foot or not. 53 I'd already been crippled anyway ... I attend PPS and then worked for 54 'em 10 yea. In actual truth, in my 10 years employment, I ACTUALLY 55 regressed. You can hardly get a job anymore withouWord Perfect exper- 005=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 07:40 Msg:6916 Call:38992 Lines:18 56 ience, and if you remember we had to THREE TIMES as much foan 57 ated ineffecve program by Billiams' decree (and 58 I heard he didn't even know how to run a comter). 59 60 And WHAT are you building in Evaluation anyway ... a bigger police state? 61 A huge PGE-type databasee on teachers and students that you can sell (like 62 to PSUHathaway uses to snow the board and the rest of the country 63 howonderful He is ... but also when necessary to show how ineffective 64 an "undesirable" teacher may be doing??? I bet the amount of money used 65 to build up that horrible machine can't even begin to be counted it's been 66 hidden in other budgets so well. Somebody told me the otheday he learned 67 in collidge that the only thing evaluation testing evaluates is the stupid- 68 ity of the author. I think PPS said as much about the state's system. 69 70 And speaking of build-up ... what do you think of police officers in the 71 high schools? I thought Measure 5 was to REDUCE spending. When I worked 72 at the ad bldg there were only 6 officers, I believe. 73 006=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 08:05 Msg:6917 Call:38993 Lines:3 74 XOXOXOXOX Do you ever feel IT's so hopeless you WISH somebody'd finger 75 The Button XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOX 76 007=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 13:03 Msg:6918 Call:39002 Lines:5 77 78 But you should be PROUD, AD, because even though His last program didn't 79 have anything to do with the subject, He summed up his last Town Hall 80 with almost a direct quote from one of your sermons. Why doesn't PPS 81 008=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 13:09 Msg:6919 Call:39003 Lines:2 82 put you on its administrative staff. You sure seem more articulate than 83 most administrators I've gotten The Word from. 009=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/17/91 15:22 Msg:6920 Call:39004 Lines:52 84 &*&*&*&*'s 85 There is good evaluation, and there is bad evaluation. Guess what? 99% of 86 it tends to be atleast a little bad. Even if the intent is good, (Which I 87 truelly believe ours is, I ought to know, I work with the people who put the 88 PALTS together.) the results can still be used to bad ends. Our department 89 passes out a lot of information. Does it ever get abused? Probably. Mot 90 Most of the problems are a result of ignorence. We recently stoped reporting 91 % scores for the PALT. Why? Because teachers were looking only at the 92 %'s (Which are darned near meaningless) and not at the rit score. (Which 93 is an absolute measure of student performance. IE, student A would be given 94 a fairly hard test, because past performance had indicated that that 95 test was appropriate. Student B would be given an easier test, also bassed 96 on past performance. Say student A got 48% of the questions correct, and 97 student B got 53%. Some teachers were assuming that that meant that student 98 B had done better then student A, when in fact, student A had a rit score 99 of 220, while student B had a rit score of 205. 100 101 The PALT (Portland Achievment Level Test) is a series of tests. Currently, 102 They are given in grades 3 thru 8. in each grade we have a series, the 103 number tends to vary somewhat, but is ussually around 6 or so. Each of 104 these tests is aimed at a student who is performing at a certain level. 105 The goal of the test is to get the most information abou how the 106 student is performing in various areas. These areas, or goals are set 107 by the curriculam department. The information is put into many reports, 108 including reports to parents, teachers, principles, and board members. 109 I'd assume much of the non student specific data is also available to the 110 public. 111 112 The purpose of these reports is to help parents, teachers and administrators 113 make informed decisions about how they teach and administer. There are not 114 intended to be the only measure, especially in the classroom. Teachers 115 Have an immense advantage in that they know their students on a personal 116 basis. They get to see the students perform, both in class and on assignments. 117 It is the stated policy of the R&E department, and I've heard it voiced many 118 times, that teachers and parents have to have the final say. 119 120 But, the school board needs objective info when setting long term policies. 121 If certain minority groups are doing especially poorly, they need and want 122 t know. PPS has started many programs over the years to help underachieving 123 students. 124 125 Makeing informed decisions is vital. Good evaluation is an immensly valuable 126 tool, but thats all it is. Tools can be used for good or bad. Throwing 127 away the tool would be silly. Its much easier to build a home with a hammer 128 and nails, then it is with the nails missing. 129 130 And as for me being articulate, Thanks. To bad I come of as an idiot in 131 person, sigh. 132 133 An Astral Dreamer 134 &*&*&*&*'s (Strange how our expectations lower as we get older.) 135 010=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/17/91 16:26 Msg:6921 Call:39005 Lines:21 136@ +{`O+RRCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 137@ 138 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 139 140 141 12-17-91 142 143 Abandoned baby buggy on back street alley. Mother gone. Baby too. Could only 144 hope they were together. Hard to sa with today's moral climate. 145 146 Across the city have seen people sraying the words "Have you got the balls" on 147 store sides and walls. Is the revolution proceeding without sponsorship? Is 148 someone out there waiting for society to come and get him/her? 149 150 President still declines recognition of the recession. On the lighter side he 151 is scheduled for optomitrists appointment this week. Maybe he'll read what's 152 on the taxpayer's lips for a change. So what if he meant "Know new taxes", it 153 wasn't personal. Maybe when he's assinated or removed from office by an 154 unhappy country he'll know it wasn't personal. 155 156 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 011=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/17/91 18:37 Msg:6922 Call:39007 Lines:9 157 158 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO 159 160 I suppose AD woulwho was repeated rawhile 161 y in a local hospital but 162 lost her case in the Oregon Supreme Court a neurotic whiner 163 164 too huh??? 165 012=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/17/91 19:48 Msg:6923 Call:39009 Lines:13 166 &*&*&*&*'s 167 Yow, that last one was garbled. Who'd I call a neurotic whiner? The 168 implication was there I'll admit, but how the h*ll would I know for sure? 169 170 As for the Judge Thomas fiasco, I don't know who was telling the truth. I 171 remember posting my feelings on sexual harrasment at the time, so I won't 172 bother to do so again. 173 174 BTW, thanks for makeing this interactive. 175 176 An Astral Dreamer 177 &*&*&*&*'s (The end never justifies the means) 178 013=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/17/91 22:18 Msg:6924 Call:39015 Lines:31 179 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=----------------------------- 180 I'm glad the disk finally got changed...I've got to admit, though, the 181 debate going on between Astral Dreamer and someone who's name isnt' all 182 that obvious. 183 184 We are all faced with an interesting daily dilemma...do we want to 185 be pure ideologues...or do we want to eat and sleep in a warm 186 place of our (temporary) own? This may not be what 'Dreamer's situation 187 is, but the reference to having integrity questioned and that it seemed 188 to be connected to whatever it is that 'Dreamer does for a living made 189 me reflect on the personal compromises that we all make each day just to 190 get along. 191 192 I've come to the personal conclusion that the small daily battles 193 are important, but if they are lost every other time it doens't matter 194 so much as the big picture: to thine own self be true. If we can afford 195 to live our lives along pure ideals, fine. Nobody should be blamed 196 if they have to make a compromise to get along though. 197 198 I wouldn't like to use petroleum at all. But I gotta get to work. 199 I don't like the things that happen to produce electricity, but I find 200 them necessary. I don't like trees dying, but I have to have paper to 201 draw on (I haven't yet found drafting vellum made of recycled materials). 202 203 I've lived my life honestly, though. And I don't think that that's more 204 than anyone has a right to expect of another. 205 206 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=-------------------------------- 207 Since I'm a new guy again I deserved the top of the disk. 'Dreamer, you 208 are a pooker. 209 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 014=Usr:663 Brittania Klein 12/18/91 02:21 Msg:6925 Call:39019 Lines:7 210 >>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> Yo! <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<< 211 C'mon, Justin, you hit the top a couple of times, as I remember. 212 Anyway..... 213 214 Where are the days of old when time was freer and so was a lot else? 215 216 >>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> Britt <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>> 015=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 12/18/91 03:06 Msg:6926 Call:39021 Lines:1 217 016=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/18/91 06:41 Msg:6927 Call:39023 Lines:5 218 (O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O)(O) 219 220 So I wonder how much the wonderful Hospital/Good Doctors made off this 221 woman's surgery??? 222 017=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/18/91 07:16 Msg:6928 Call:39024 Lines:19 223 224 **************************************************** 225 226 Hmmmmmmm ... funny story in the paper today about the Browns. I'd heard 227 the senior Mr. Brown got prostrate cancer some time after the rape convic- 228 tion. Mr. Brown helped me moved my compost down to my new place about 229 this time and I went to his house to pay him. Jackie was staying there 230 and was in a chair in a fetal position. Mrs. Brown, a darling old woman 231 (looked much older than Mr. Brown) was very cheerful and chipper and offered 232 me a cup of tea. I saw Al Brown repeatedly over the years taking walks in 233 the neighborhood looking very sad ... and he didn't seem to have Alzheimers. 234 What worries me is that I was told the owner of the gas station that lived 235 right across the street has the same name as a person convicted of murder 236 earlier this year. 237 238 But I suppose they must KNOW what their doing down there ... hopefully more 239 than they know about neighborhood tax assessors, policemen, nursing home 240 owners, truck stope owners, sewer departments, land developers/deedholders, 241 018=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/18/91 07:33 Msg:6929 Call:39026 Lines:2 242 etc. 243 019=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/18/91 07:41 Msg:6930 Call:39027 Lines:3 244 etc. ... but then maybe those CRIMES are "legal." Hard to tell most of the 245 time. 246 020=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/18/91 10:53 Msg:6931 Call:39030 Lines:12 247 %#%#%%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%# 248 249 Interesting reading the "small" PPS staff directory. I see where a former 250 Board member holds the same position for the district as Marge does for 251 the City. Funny, I noticed in some Board "Minutes" (if they still publish 252 them) that another former Board member (or someone with a coincidentally 253 identical rather uncommon name) receives large" legal fees from PPS too. 254 255 #%#%#% Rieke's college-aged receptionist has the same name as one of the 256 former's too ... probably just a coincidence, same as for Sean Hathaway of 257 Hathaway 258 the same office #%##%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%#%# 021=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/18/91 16:15 Msg:6932 Call:39033 Lines:10 259 &*&*&*&*'s 260 Please elaborate on the Hathaway thing. As far as I know, Walt is the only 261 one that works for the district. His kids are all around 20 or so I 262 believe, and his familey is not from around here as far as I know. 263 264 Oh no, could it be? coincidence? 265 266 An Astral Dreamer 267 &*&*&*&*'s 268 022=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/18/91 19:26 Msg:6935 Call:39038 Lines:12 269 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 270 271 12-18-91 272 273 So many names and numbes. Two more weeks and I'll be back in the running. How 274 can I love it and hate it at the same time? 275 276 Bar your doors and lock your shutter. I'm back on the street and lost in the 277 shuffle. 278 279 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 280 023=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/18/91 21:51 Msg:6936 Call:39039 Lines:29 281 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------- 282 283 True Love defined: I just discovered that Morton Downey, Jr. (remember 284 him, babies?) found a cute wife while he was still famous. So, here he is, 285 at the bottom, close to bankruptcy, and guess what...she's still with him. 286 He was an ugly, idiotic putz. This is True Love and Devotion [tm]. Ask 287 for it by name. 288 289 From the Theatre of the Cruel: what I wish Marko Haggard's disclaimer 290 REALLY disclaim on the Channel 2 News: 291 292 "The opinions expressed by Marko Haggard are not those of KATU, its 293 staff and employees. Also, it's not shared by most of Marko's brain 294 cells, many members of Mensa, cute small fuzzy animals like cats and 295 bunnies, and the elephant's up and Washington Park. Rumors that a 296 small dog once spotted on the corner of The Alameda and NE 57th Ave, 297 just under the statue of George Washington, cannot be substatiated 298 as the pooch has disappeared mysteriously." 299 300 Actually, I like Marko's opinions. He's a well spoken individual, 301 and amazingly clear headed. I do wonder Exactly Who He Is and Where 302 He Came From, though. 303 304 Think on this: I don't trust any elected official who needs to be 305 addressed by other than thier first name. I don't think You should, 306 either. 307 308 Most of need to be referred to by title. Says something. 309 -------------------------=Justin the Blue=-------------------------------- 024=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/19/91 08:25 Msg:6937 Call:39043 Lines:28 310 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX 311 312 Just so's I'm not accused of ather type of ingore-ancethe Clarence 313 Thomas type, f instance), before I start another of my repetitive 314 tirades, let me clear up a few ambiguities I've left with such 315 adoring crown (I know most of you wish I'd just drop dead what 316 wi the loyalty clauses written into your many employment cont 317 (REALLY, check out your job descriptions and evaluation forms) but ...) 318 319 About the new Free Way toull Mt.: call it a freeway because the folks 320 that "need" it and are most " it (in ERY sense of the 321 word) will get it FREhile the resus are taxed ontots to 322 starve in the winter cold). I could probably correctly presume that 323 the Ames/Johnsons (who own the South half of the ve enough money 324 to pay somebody amply (or enough Friends) to make sure They DON'T pay 325 for nuthing, but I've also noticed what seems like a scam in many 326 of these mini-mansion Projects favorite son" developers, liken 327 Bull Mt. (AND even tacky revolting developments like Citadel Est). 328 It seems like theseces/hovels (whichever) rotate "membership" 329 about every three years, meaning they sell or, more likely, 330 go bankrupt when Their interest is paid off and they dont stand to have 331 it all "tax returned" to them when they start paying on Their principals. 332 And never mind what Father Faust said about BANKRUPTCY ... we all know 333 certain "Members" will get Their loans regardless, especially if they 334 have "friendly" Bankers or Developers/Deedholders (or City/County Commis- 335 sioner friendswho may have many side-scams going. I mean really, can 336 you IMAGINE what it'd be like if we ALL thought we deserveduch privi- 337 ledges???? NOTHING would work RIGHT no more. Know what I mean?? 025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/19/91 08:41 Msg:6938 Call:39044 Lines:48 338 &*&*&*&*'s 339 Alas, if only there weren't so many badly garbled messages here on good 340 old BWMS II. Uploads are tricky, and it strikes me that some people should 341 have given up on them by now. 342 343 Heres they lyrics to a song I wrote a couple of months back. When I looked 344 at it again recently, it really scared me. I thought it was just about 345 being depressed, but I think it goes farther then that. 346 347 Been living here so long 348 Don't know what went wrong 349 Try to understand, but it takes so long. 350 351 A feather in my cap 352 A fortune in my heart 353 I hear the sirens call, wonder where it leads. 354 I hear the sirens call, wonder where it leads. 355 I hear the sirens call, wonder where it leads. 356 357 Money is the answer 358 Or is it love? 359 Can I have both, someday I'll know. 360 361 A garden side chat 362 Can that be all 363 Falling off this bridge, and it seems so far 364 Falling off this bridge, and it seems so far 365 Falling off this bridge, and it seems so far 366 367 Not an upbeat song, but it just seems to fit together so well. I write a lot 368 of poetry, most of it garbage. But once in awhile I write something that 369 really has meaning for me. I can write meaningless drivel, but it feels 370 just like meaningless drivel. 371 372 I don't even always understand what I am writing at first, its almost as if 373 my sub concious is trying to communicate to me thru the words I write. 374 375 It's really hard for me to be verbose in verse. I like to get as much as 376 possible across in the fewest amount of words, to encapsulate some 377 facet of my life in four or five versus. 378 379 Oh well, enough for now. Its well past time for me to start writting 380 short stories again. I've even got a semi interesting background 381 worked out. Maybe in the next week or two. 382 383 An Astral Dreamer 384 &*&*&*&*'s (I heard it in a dream) 385 026=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/19/91 10:31 Msg:6939 Call:39047 Lines:35 386 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO 387 388 You DO have soul AD, so I'll ignore the pointed sarcasm in the last para- 389 grap . And I'm sorry I was so rudely interrupted. I had to hang 390 up because of the LINE NOISE, which if I were presumptous and paranoid I 391 think MIGHT be PGE sending power surges, but I don't so I'm not. I 392 will try to go back and "correct" what looks like gibberish above, but I 393 swear it's my COMPUTER thats SICK ***NOT ME*** .... so here's the 394 rest of the above story. 395 396 But who knows, maybe "Big Business" (or "Big Government") is buying 'em 397 for Ther employees, too. I got wind not long ago of a local Institution 398 looking to pay $28,000 per year **JUST FOR YARDWORK ALONE** for one of 399 Their Benevolent Regent Figureheards .and THIS on top of a humungous 400 salary PLUS a free house (and god(dess) only KNOWS what ELSE). 401 402 And about KATU ... In my own uttermost Humble Opinion, I think of all 403 the Channels THEY are the most propagandistic ... or bought off, or 404 whatever. And I resent it that they think we're such insecure idiots 405 that we need the NEWS?? presented to us by matching pairs of "couples" 406 I also hated it when we were all forced into witnessing the "inside" of 407 their offce politics ... like when now Sleezecaster Bill O'Reilly was 408 Here and He and Jeffie would perform their great rolling of eyes over 409 Richard Ross. I got te impression they dd the same thing to David Apple, 410 but then I might just be to "sensitive" to these things, what with my 411 cumulative experience and 10 years at the school district and all (whee 412 I found these types of behaviors fostered thru Executive/Board/Union 413 Modeling and Mandate). 414 415 And let me also apologize for repeatedly misusing the term "ADMINISTRA- 416 TIVE" in former invectives about PPS (and COP). I don't mean to imply 417 that ALL Administrators aretic brutes LIKE DAN KLEE. I refer 418 mostly to the Executive staff who Develop ad Defend Dominator-Type 419 Administrators LIKE Dan Klee (and Ron Hanlon, Jeff Sachtler, Sue 420 027=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/19/91 10:48 Msg:6940 Call:39048 Lines:1 421 028=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/19/91 16:40 Msg:6941 Call:39051 Lines:21 422@ /+-{]`#O=+RRCAH+O'}-+\ 423@ 424 /-]#= RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 425 426 12-19-91 427 428 Rich politicians distribute the wealth, but they're afraid that we'll run away 429 and never better ourselves down on the inside. They're building statues of 430 steel. 431 432 Protect me from your enemies. And there they sit with their children weeping. 433 434 If you dont want me taggin along why dont you turn around and tell me so, 435 instad of wasting my time. But on the horizon it's so hard to tell. Help me 436 up to touch the sky, don't keep me down on the ground by broken promises. 437 438 And the wheel turns again. How much can one see from a window in the city? 439 From the right perspective you can see it all. 440 441 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 442 029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/19/91 17:20 Msg:6942 Call:39052 Lines:11 443 &*&*&*&*'s 444 Try to ignore me if I get testy. I've been in a really bad mood lately. 445 446 Reminds me of another verse 447 448 Cryin out with no hope or asperation 449 Reaching for the common touch, which is above your station. 450 451 An Astral Dreamer 452 &*&*&*&*'s (Sometimes good things happen) 453 030=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/19/91 18:15 Msg:6943 Call:39053 Lines:2 454 ^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^##^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^#^# 455 031=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/19/91 18:21 Msg:6944 Call:39054 Lines:5 456 457 WHY doesn't PPS have a union like the STATE employees??? And 458 I wonder if they wouldn't be a better "replacement" tn PAT???? But 459 hey, may they're the ones I should be "talking to" huh? They MIGHT 460 032=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/19/91 18:29 Msg:6945 Call:39055 Lines:2 461 even know IF there IS a GOOD lawyer (NOT Liar). I should 462 at least SHOW them my "stuff" from PPS Executives. 033=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/19/91 19:48 Msg:6946 Call:39056 Lines:33 463 --------------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------ 464 465 About the news: It doesn't matter whether or not the game is rigged. 466 Complaining about the news being biased or the media's bias...either way... 467 is tantamount to saying "I can't think for myself, I'm helpless from 468 having my mind molded by the TV." The truth is hidden, but it's not 469 impossible to find. 470 I watch the TV with my #10 Bullshit filter in permanent place. I don't 471 depend on anyone to sort out what they tell me. I listen to a lot of 472 Talk Radio: between Rush Limbaugh and Ray Taliaferro, I compute the 473 average and figure the truth is right about there, in the middle. I realize 474 that people are greedy inherently; therefore, when pols and corp execs 475 cheat and lie and steal, I'm not surprised; and if I'm clever enough 476 that day, I can do an end run around it and save my soul and my mind if 477 not my money. 478 I also don't believe that everyone in the news business is out to lie 479 to you. That doesn't mean, though, that I think they tell me the truth 480 all the time. 481 482 The only truth I know about folx who complain about the news being 483 biased or unfair is that they usually have an ox being gored somwhere 484 or the other. 485 486 On the subject of unions: unions are made of people, and people do the 487 organizing. If you want a Labor union in your workplace, organize one. 488 Contact AFSCME, for instance; they certainly can be of advice, if noting 489 else. Or, if they don't, just get the talk started amongst those you 490 trust for good advice. There's safety in numbers...but the numbers 491 don't just happen. 492 Anyone can organize. You are more powerful than you think. 493 --------------------------=Justin the Blue=---------------------------- 494 An opinionated son of a bitch. Yes, babies. 495 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 034=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/20/91 21:34 Msg:6948 Call:39072 Lines:17 496 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 497 498@12-20 499@ 500 12-20-91 501 502 The rain beats against the walls of the city like the men in the padded cells. 503 Trying to get in and cleanse themselves from the infected sanitized rooms 504 society expects us to stay in like well trained dogs. 505 506 Our leashs can be broken. 507 508 The city holds itself in a cell, and we can only move about it, or break free 509 of it. You must choose. 510 511 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 512 035=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/20/91 21:53 Msg:6949 Call:39073 Lines:23 513 ----------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------- 514 The city imprisons only those on our level who wish to be imprisoned. 515 I was money-poor, but broke free and left for another place where I could 516 reestablish perspective and grow in a worldly way. 517 518 I do not return willingly to a prison. If someone wishes to call me 519 imprisoned, that is fine; by the same token, I am not offbase to suggest 520 that the suggestion is very mistaken. 521 522 It can be argued that we are "leashed" to something. But it can 523 also be suggested that the leash is a result of a general lack of 524 ambition. There are indeed circumstances that we cannot control that 525 are stifiling us. They are not pervasive. The trick is to learn 526 to discern between what you cannot change, what you can change, and 527 what you can avoid. To suggest that we are all completely puppets 528 is to suggest that we shouldn't even bother to get up in the AM. I, 529 for one, find that thought repulsive. 530 531 Angst is fine, but angst is not all. Man cannot make a difference 532 with angst alone, and if you know how, angst can be a fun toy. 533 --------------------------=Justin the Blue=---------------------------- 534 Because sky blue is my favorite color...not because life is pointless. 535 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 036=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/21/91 07:56 Msg:6951 Call:39078 Lines:35 536 &*&*&*&*'s 537 538 In a dream I wandered thru a museum. It contained pictures that were 539 scenes from my life. I saw the sadness and the anger, but I also saw the hope. 540 541 I saw the little things that brought me down, the put downs and the jokes. 542 But on this second viewing I realized they had no real weight. 543 544 My journey continued for many hours, the pictures a walk of life. 545 The trip a needed reminiscing, their scenes broad with my life. 546 547 I saw many views within, to many, far to many. The looking out scenes 548 lost amoungst the navel gazing angst. 549 550 And then I came to a new place. Construction, building onto it. New 551 pictures to be painted, new images to view. 552 553 I thought of the unbalance, and swore that I would try. To look outside 554 and see the world, for someday I must die. 555 556 The price the inner lookers pay is to always live withing. To never 557 live within in the world, to miss the obvious. 558 559 Hid inside too much, too much. These new wing of the museum must be filled 560 with the outside, but I know I cannot rush. 561 562 The easy journey is taken and forgotten. Seldom do we ever comment on the 563 short and easy trip. 564 565 I'd walked into the present. There I stood to wait. Lived to long in the 566 past now. There is no turning back. 567 568 An Astral Dreamer 569 &*&*&*&*'s (When the verse flows.) 570 037=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/21/91 08:53 Msg:6952 Call:39079 Lines:11 571 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO Uhhhh, pass the Underwear, please . 572 573 and the Other Sadistic Brutes and Brutesses I wished to list when I was 574 so rudely kicked off the system were: 575 576 Parker, Myra Rose, Linda Simington & Ancestors & Family, 577 Candy and John-Bill Beck, Sharon Clouser, Prth, Bob Williams & 578 Harem (en though Bob suddenly vanished in to thin air), Merle Brad- 579 ford & Ed Smiust the mention of which, I've observed, causes 580 trembling) and of course Head Brute Don McElroy. 581 038=Usr:657 Shrew kate 12/21/91 09:51 Msg:6953 Call:39080 Lines:3 582 XOXOXOXOX Excuse, make that PANTIES. "Pass the Panties" IS much nastier, 583 after all. 584 039=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/21/91 11:19 Msg:6954 Call:39082 Lines:4 585 586 To say nuthin' of the Titation value 588 040=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/21/91 12:18 Msg:6955 Call:39084 Lines:16 589 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 590 591 12-21-91 592 593 On way home today watched small kitten run over by T-Max. Kitten sat there, 594 hissing, but not giving ground. Max Operator didn't see the cat. After the 595 train passed it was hard to miss it, strewn about the track for a good 20 feet. 596 597 We are much like the cat. Some stay their ground and dont give in. Some hate 598 the rain and the feel of it. Bury their heads between the swollen teats of 599 indulgence and gratification, piglets squirming beneath a sow for shelter. 600 601 But there is no shelter. And the future is bearing down like an express train. 602 603 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 604 041=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/21/91 14:23 Msg:6956 Call:39085 Lines:7 605 606 xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo 607 608 BTW, Linda S., Eleanor-Hera and Myra all worked together with 609 Evaluation on the TRIAL social studies implementation. Maybe THIS 610 Trinity should be the subject of a REAL social study. 611 042=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/22/91 02:24 Msg:6957 Call:39094 Lines:41 612 -----------------------=Justin the Blue=-------------------------------- 613 Anyone has any Commodore disk drives that they are willing 614 to let go of cheap? 615 616 I have a Commodore Plus/4. It's a neat little machine, not as 617 graphics or sound capable as the '64 (no sprites and only three voices 618 for sound), but it has some good built in software (word processor, 619 spreadsheet), and I'd like to use it for personal projects...perhaps 620 even a bbs some day in the future. 621 622 Only problem is, I've no storage for it. Disk drives, I mean. Or 623 maybe even a lowly Commodore Datassette...I could settle with that for 624 now, to get things rolling. I'm going to use a trashy B/W TV for the 625 monitor. Disk storage is the thing. 626 627 Reason I'm looking for a price-favor is because we are a little cash- 628 poor after our move in from Corvallis and Christmas and all, and I 629 don't think I'm out of line assuming that there's someone who would 630 like to get rid of some old Commodore peripherals enough that they'd 631 nearly give them away; hell, someone gave the the Plus/4 for nothing. 632 It's a neat lil' machine I'd really like to put to work. 633 634 WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR: 635 636 Commodore 1541 or 1551 Disk drive 637 (at least one, two would be great) 638 OR....Commodore 1531 Datassette. 639 640 WHAT I CAN PAY: 641 Not much right now. If there's someone 642 Who really wants to get rid of thier 643 old 1541's or 1551's, email me here 644 (user number 658), on Artistic Licence 645 (user name: Justin the Blue), or 646 justink@m2xenix.psg.com (eagle@agora.rain.com, 647 once batie can get it running again). 648 OR...call my answering machine at 234-xxxx. 649 Who knows...maybe we can make a deal. 650 651 advTHANKSance, 652 ------------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------- 043=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/22/91 03:22 Msg:6958 Call:39095 Lines:6 653 &*&*&*&*'s 654 One mans lurk is another mans short message. 655 656 An Astral Dreamer 657 &*&*&*&*'s (In the early morning hours.) 658 044=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 06:20 Msg:6959 Call:39096 Lines:9 659 XOXOXOXOXXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO 660 661 I suppose I SHUDDA been more furious about Prophet all this time 662 because, like Clarence Thomas he cudda/SHUDDA made 663 a difference. Certainly, saying that he'd defend 664 Don McElroy to his dying breath 665 should indicate there's some kinda serious 666 problem. 667 045=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 06:48 Msg:6960 Call:39097 Lines:7 668 669 670 W (and still catching up on my ignore-ance, another thing 671 that bothered me about KATU is that they always seemed to refer to them- 672 selves as CELEBRITIES. They're NOW using Jim Apple's cat to 673 retract any such arrogance, however. 674 046=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 07:01 Msg:6961 Call:39098 Lines:5 675 676 RORSCHACH: Did you analyze the grease spots? Maybe you could put your finding 677 678 through PPS' psychometric testing program and send the results to PGE/DMV??? 679 047=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 07:11 Msg:6962 Call:39099 Lines:5 680 P>S> There are millions of miles of grease spots you in your exalte"intelligen 681 system have overlooked. BTW, inputting on this system 682 is too much like working at PPS. It's too much of a hassle and there are 683 too many obstacles to overcome. 684 048=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 07:33 Msg:6963 Call:39100 Lines:1 685 049=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 09:00 Msg:6964 Call:39102 Lines:11 686 687 XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX 688 689 And didn't Porter Sexton vanish into the ozone about the same time as 690 Lover-Boy Bob. Some say he SURFACED in a much bettposition at the 691 SAT Bureau. This after we spe much time in Word Processing doing 692 upteem drafts of his thesis via dictaphone. I could never figure out 693 who got the better deal, though, between Porter or Walt. We CLOSED 694 Word Processing for I don't know HOW long to do Walt's wife's thesis ... 695 input, proofed and redone. But that's a whole 'nother Book. 696 050=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 09:15 Msg:6965 Call:39104 Lines:3 697 PPS Executives/Dominator Administrators stage civil wars over such issues, 698 ater all. But this has nothing to do with Board overlordship. 699 051=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/22/91 10:02 Msg:6966 Call:39105 Lines:16 700 &*&*&*&*'s 701 Our tests have ZERO to do with inteligence. Note the word achievment in 702 Portland Achievment Levels Test. I'm a fairly bright person, and there 703 are HS kids who can score higher on these tests. Why? because I havn't 704 used half the stuff we test since middle school. You may question the 705 validity of these tests in that light, but remember we don't set the 706 curiculum. 707 708 Please try to criticize the test, rather then your false perception of what the 709 test is. I am more then happy to answer any questions you may have, as 710 well as correcting the misinformation you seem so anxious to spread. 711 712 An Astral Dreamer 713 &*&*&*&*'s (Fighting for truth and justice, and thus fighting a good % of the 714 american way.) 715 052=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 11:01 Msg:6967 Call:39106 Lines:3 716 717 And speaking of OZONE, whatever happened to Karen Gorder??? 718 053=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/22/91 11:32 Msg:6968 Call:39107 Lines:7 719 720 And since you're ALSO talking about ROAD KILL, I must admit that I **AM** 721 imbalanced. While eating breakfast this morning, I overheard a conver- 722 sation about the teenager here who just got 6 rounds pumped into his chest 723 by our "unaccountable" community police. I surely am missing the point 724 somewhere. 725 054=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/22/91 12:02 Msg:6969 Call:39108 Lines:14 726 &*&*&*&*'s 727 That case struck me as wierd as well. 6 bullets? Whens the last time a 728 portland cop got killed? Yet, they seem to have a tendancy to hose anybody 729 who even points a weapon in their general direction. Gotta wonder 730 how 'profesional' that is. 731 732 If I don't here about a firing, I'll be only mildly surprised. The police 733 union in this city seems to have the ability to make sure that even the 734 most blatent incompatence. (To understate something that looks a lot 735 like manslaughter, if not murder.) 736 737 An Astral Dreamer 738 &*&*&*&*'s (Peanut butter on the roof of your mouth) 739 055=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/22/91 16:49 Msg:6970 Call:39109 Lines:17 740 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 741 742 743 12-22-91 744 745 Wacthed the city from high today as I climbed the building and watched the ants 746 pass below. Around me the birds flew oblivious to the decay below. But it's 747 still there when they land, only the distance affects the observation. 748 749 Offices below. Headstones marking daily graves of thousands. Inside, across 750 clock faces, as observed as those of celebrities, hands commence final laps. 751 752 Oblivion gallops closer, favoring the spur, sparing the rein. Famine and war 753 already visited apon us, other horsemen cant be too far behind. 754 755 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 756 056=Usr:26 Mohammed Wassir 12/23/91 00:43 Msg:6971 Call:39118 Lines:6 757 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ 758 Excuse me? Are we talking about the kid that stabbed the police officer, 759 then got shot because of it? If it was me, I woulda shot him too . . . 760 with everything I had. The kid made his choice and paid for it. Life's 761 tough. No apologies. 762 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ 057=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/23/91 07:02 Msg:6972 Call:39120 Lines:14 763 &*&*&*&*'s 764 He threw a knife at the cop, causing a wound that didn't even require stitches 765 as far as I know. The cop then shot at him atleast 7 times, hitting 6. Yea, 766 I could see myself doing the same in that situation. If I weren't a 767 professional sworn to protect the public. 768 769 The cop lost his head, plain and simple. The kid wasn't white, so he got 770 shot many many times. If the kid had been white and looked middle 771 class, he'd still be alive. Don't believe it? Fine, live in your 772 fantasy world. 773 774 An Astral Dreamer 775 &*&*&*&*'s (Not nearly this sarcastic in person.) 776 058=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/23/91 09:27 Msg:6973 Call:39122 Lines:28 777 &%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&%&% 778 779 I'd alwaySAID it was BrudoSherry ran into in the parking lothat 780 day but I was never sure untay when my friend said he saw 781 a book dat VV with the picture othe secretary from the history 782 For some reason he didn't buy the book even tho' it 783 was only .50 or so. So we hopped in the luxury car and headed on out 784 to make posI ran into Sherry some years back and she gave me 785 a two-block ride to the ad and she never said a thing and neither 786 diI. I really shudda thanked hnot that he wudda picked me out of 787 the ongs ... I look like a 14-yo boy ... or used to; but I used to 788 sunbathe on top of the parking str just because nobody el was 789 ever there and if push came to shove). Jerry picked perxactly the 790 WRONG woman when he chose Sherry, though ... thank GOD! 791 792 We also had, about that time, a tall black predator that hung 793 around PSU for absolutely YEARS. I ran into him once in an isolated 794 hallway on the backside of Old Main and was scared to death.He ended 795 up as a bouncer for awhile at the Portland Center Red Lion, but I don't 796 know what happened to him after that. uhe once was with a small 797 gang oguys standing in front the PSPE bldg and I was walking hom 798 to the apt. next door when they whistled at me. Well, you know how 799 THAT goes.It's so damn irritating, then embarrass ... especially 800 when you're damned if you do and damned if you don't respond. So when 801 I didn't, they started throwing rocks. THank god my friend was 802 waiting for me on a bench in the next park block. He swears 803 one of the other guys was Randy Woodfield, but I dunno. 804 059=Usr:26 Mohammed Wassir 12/23/91 14:27 Msg:6974 Call:39125 Lines:35 805 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ 806 Ah, AD, getting a little snippy, aren't we. I'll try to hold my 807 temper and not reply in kind, though you'll have to excuse me if 808 I don't take your 'interpretation' of events as gospel. I assume 809 you got your info from the Oregonian, a questionable source at 810 best. If you'd care to quote court documents, that 811 would be fine. 812 813 I hear you saying that the standard of care should be different for 814 you from a police officer in a shooting situation. Although there 815 are differences in the law regarding the use of deadly force between 816 normal citizens and law enforcement officers, in this case, the 817 standard is the same. A police officer (or citizen) may use deadly 818 physical force if threatened with serious physical injury. The courts 819 have held that what is important is the perception of the threat by 820 the officer at the time of the use of force. There are several examples 821 of police officers shooting people wielding unloaded weapons. There is 822 no requirement that the officer say "Excuse me sir, do you mind if I 823 check the gun that you're pointing at me to see if it's loaded before 824 I shoot you?" Nor is there a requirement that the officer wait to 825 see how seriously he is injured (your number of stitches argument) 826 before using deadly force. The courts have also held numerous times 827 that being threatened with a knife is a threat of serious physical 828 injury. 829 830 I guess my point is that unless you're standing in that particular officer's 831 shoes, it's difficult for you to pontificate about whether the shooting 832 was righteous or not. That's what a court of law is for. I assume that 833 if the officer was wrong, then the courts will so rule. Sometimes we 834 make life and death decisions in a split second then live with the results 835 for the rest of our lives. 836 837 I found your last message somewhat abusive. I almost replied in kind, but 838 I won't. It serves no purpose. 839 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ V. 060=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/23/91 18:11 Msg:6975 Call:39130 Lines:24 840 &*&*&*&*'s 841 I apologize. I was abusive, and without good reason. 842 843 Yes, I did get my info from the Oregonian, not a great source I know, but 844 the only one available right now. I'm sure there is an investigation going 845 on, but I'd be very much surprised if the records were available to the 846 public at this time. 847 848 The way it was portrayed in the Oregonian was as follows. Cop stops car, 849 copy asks suspect to get out of car. suspect gets out of car and throws 850 knife at cop. At this point suspect has no weapons in hands. Cop fires 851 seven bullets. Cop hits suspect 6 times. 852 853 In my book, thats excessive force. Maybe it didn't happen that way. We'll 854 find out in a few months no doubt. 855 856 If the kid had been waving a gun, I'd say he got what he deserved. 857 858 I thank you for your restraint. Its good to see somebody setting a good 859 example. I will do the same in the future. 860 861 An Astral Dreamer 862 &*&*&*&*'s (Eating my words) 863 061=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/23/91 19:21 Msg:6976 Call:39132 Lines:27 864 ---------------------------=Justin the Blue=------------------------------ 865 I admire 'Dreamer's wherwithal to concede the last point. I, myself, did 866 a lot of thinking and info gathering WRT to the kid who got killed in the 867 altercation with the Law. 868 Sure, it shouldn't have happened. I am, however, respectfully withholding 869 my sorrow. The family should rightly grieve, but I won't. The kid was 870 stupid. I understand he had a history of getting into trouble that people 871 with real IQ's would avoid (and don't give me the environmental crap. Smart 872 people stay out of trouble. Successes come out of the get-toe every day. 873 I think of it as evolution in action), and then he goes, robs a store, and 874 then when stopped, comes out and stabs a man who is armed to the teeth and 875 trained to (and this is important) DEFEND HIMSELF WHEN ATTACKED. 876 877 Stupid. 878 879 Let me put it to you this way: if you're stupid enough to come after me 880 with a knife if I were armed with a sidearm, you'd be lucky if they found 881 one of your short hairs to bury. Or, another way: a buffoon who pokes 882 a tiger with a stick may not deserve to die, only to be tapped back with a 883 stick. 884 But you think he's gonna be tapped back with a lil' ol' stick? If you 885 said to yourself, "heck, no, Justin, he's gonna die horribly," then the 886 light just may be coming on in your head. Congratulations. 887 888 It's like some wise sf writer (I think) said: you live and your learn. 889 Or you don't live long. 890 ----------------------------=Justin the Blue=----------------------------- 062=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 12/24/91 05:34 Msg:6977 Call:39139 Lines:9 891 &*&*&*&*'s 892 I guess I just have a higher expectation of how a profesional is supposed to 893 act in such a situation. 894 895 It does seem to be true that the kid had a death wish. 896 897 An Astral Dreamer 898 &*&*&*&*'s (Lack of humility is not my shortcoming.) 899 063=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/24/91 08:05 Msg:6978 Call:39142 Lines:6 900 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 901 902 I suppose the Young Kennedy-Smith Boy used safe sex, even though he WAS 903 uh .. picked up???? He is a 3-4th year med student after all. 904 905 He MUST carry them in his wallet for just such frequent occasions, huh? 064=Usr:322 Stray Cat 12/24/91 08:16 Msg:6979 Call:39143 Lines:7 906 907 And did he used a NEW one the second time around (this trip). Maybe this 908 is an issue that otta maybe be DISCUSSED, you know???? I mean the guy is 909 so wonderfully verile and all, a regular sex machine I think it was phrased. 910 Are these things guaranteed in such situations???????? 911 912 Perhaps the Board might could edit e curriculum in this regard. 065=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/24/91 13:40 Msg:6980 Call:39152 Lines:22 913 914 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 915 916 12-24-91 917 918 No sleep last night. Walked through the cold night air. Felt dark world turn 919 under my feet again. Good. 920 921 Families are gathering to celebrate the death of a man they thought was born. 922 Funny, Roman began census nearly two thousand years ago and listed him as 923 being born in spring. 924 925 But then no one listens to history. 926 927 In nineteen twenty the truck drivers were being laid off. The price of foods 928 was climbing, and stock prices were fluxing violently. And the president 929 had said everything was fine. 930 931 It's happening again. 932 933 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 934 066=Usr:186 Wesley Smith 12/24/91 15:35 Msg:6981 Call:39154 Lines:2 935 I wish to ta\ke this time to wish one and all a safe and happy holiday season. 936 Remember drinking and driving don't mix, so be a designated driver and say no 067=Usr:660 Rick Young 12/25/91 20:25 Msg:6982 Call:39167 Lines:13 937 /-]#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 938 939 There's no tomorrow, just today. Find it is best to do things now or there is 940 a price to be paid for tardiness. Find the quickest way to a point is by walk- 941 ing the thinnest line. On the edge 942 943 Some us of have always lived on the edge. It is even possible to survive here 944 if one observes the rules: 945 946 Just hang on by fingernails and never look down. 947 948 /+-{]`#O=+ RORSCHACH +=O#'[}-+\ 949 068=Usr:658 Justin Klein 12/26/91 00:36 Msg:6983 Call:39170 Lines:12 950 ----------------------=Justin the Blue=--------------------------------- 951 I'm fairly happy. A little guilty. This holiday season has been good 952 to me in terms of bridges built between people. Many these days don't 953 have it so good, and I hurt for them; not so long ago, I was one of them. 954 If I could, I'd lift them out too. 955 956 One Christmas wish that I would have is; that the only homeless out 957 there are the ones who truly wish to be. Let those that want homes and 958 safety have it. 959 960 Also, I'd wish that there were more often TWO disks with space on BW. 961 ---------------------=Justin the Blue=---------------------------------- 069=Usr:26 Mohammed Wassir 12/26/91 15:44 Msg:6985 Call:39179 Lines:16 962 +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+ 963 AD: Thanks. I'll keep silent on the subject from now on. 964 965 A recent conversation. 966 967 "Yes, the Silvia Beach Hotel is really neat. All the rooms are in a 968 different writer's motiff," I said. 969 "You should go back there someday," she said. 970 "I will, but I'd like to take someone with me. 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