NUMBER OF LINES: 999 001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19 1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2$************************* INSTALLED: 3 OCT 89 **************************** 3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator 4$************************************************************************** 5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately 8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general 9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the 10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all 11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the 12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data 13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out 14$the ENTER mode. 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Fill The Disk! Fill The Disk!!!!!!! 34 35 This message really isn't here :) 36 004=Usr:4 Milchar 10/03/89 22:55 Msg:4428 Call:24376 Lines:8 37 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 38 Celene is back upon the electronic scene, having been dismantled during 39 the S/T shift I mentioned. My new address is available to those who 40 know my phone number(s); they know who they are. 41 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 42@And for those L4 types: It is 1535 SW Clay, Apartment 136. Goose Hollow 43@Village, if you know where that is. Same phone number (thank god). 44 #$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$##$# 005=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/04/89 15:43 Msg:4429 Call:24397 Lines:63 45 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 46 #$## Border: Do I detect a gleam of silver? 47 Friar: My turn! 48 49 50 51 53 The Cloaked Man gasped, dodging, as a bolt of shimmering red energy 54 lept from the Quantier and scorched a nearby tre. He had not expected such 55 an assault so soon, thinking the goblet damphened by the Stone Triangle. If 56 the Triangle was enough to hold back the goblet, he thought to himself, 57 then wasn't it possible that it might prove to be... "No," he whispered 58 to himself, shuddering. He blocked out the ghastly images that assaulted his 59 psyche. Doubt and fear, however, were not so easily chased from the corridors 60 of his mind. Once he had closed the Friar Paradox, he would have to take a 61 closer look at the Triangle that hung, even now, suspended just over Triantha, 62 the largest city on Pyrrix A'aaal. 63 He looked down at his belt, noting that the line had crept up to just 64 below minimum efficiency. Another few minutes, and he'd be armed. However, 65 judging from the stance and expression of his adversery, he would probably 66 never see those minutes. 67 He considered his options for a fraction of a second. Looking at 68 the pulsating Quantier, he quickly realized that he had none, and 69 that this grassy hill might just prove to be his final resting place. 70 The Friar, a ghostly apparition just barely visible through the 71 infernal fog, raised the Quantier towards him, forcing the Cloaked Man 72 to come to term,s with the fact that he had seriously miscalculated, failing 73 to the Friar. More likely than not, he surmised, a result of some quirk in 74 physiology between the two. Apparently, cold comfort though it might have 75 been, the Elders were NOT truly incapable of error, since there had been no 76 warning of this difference. 77 "Who are you?" A voice shattered his death-thoughts. "What do you 78 want?" The Friar's eyes raged, the Quantier throbbing with energy in his 79 hands. And yet, there was a hint of doubt behind those eyes, of possible 80 uncertainty. Seeing both the opportunity to accomplish his mission AND save 81 himself from a gristly fate, the Cloaked man stood, slowly, cautiously, never 82 taking his silver eyes from the chalice the Friar held. Time, he reasoned, 83 for a little change of tactics. 84 He gave the Friar a grim salute, nodding at the Quantier. "Greetings, 85 fine sir." he lied. "Allow me to properly introduce myself. I am Michael, the 86 Cloaked Man. Forgive my ill treatment of your personage scant moments ago, 87 but I feared for my life, seeing as how you possessed the Quantier." he pointed 88 at the chalice. "I know not from where you found this most wonderous of 89 devices." Lies upon lies. "However, since I am aware of its potential 90 hazards, and since you seem determined to make it your own, I might discuss 91 matters with you without resorting to any sort of violence, should you wish 92 it to be so. Notice, if you will, that my attack was not lethal, nor do you 93 suffer from any sort of ill physical affects. In truth, it is buut my 94 defence against the harshness of the many worlds which I call my own." 95 Translation, thought the Cloaked Man, I'm a lousy shot and didn't get it 96 phased the first time... the first time. He smiled weakly. "Please, sir, 97 I mean you no harm. I am but a poor and innocent traveler who has been 98 seeking the wonderous Quantier, so that I might imbue my knowledge of its 99 might and malice to the next bearer of its dark burden." 100 Fear crept into the Cloaked Man, a soft, cold fear that became visible, 101 sending gasping, whining sparks of blue to sprout around his aura of green. 102 Silence followed for a moment, save for the fluttering of a cloak of red. 104 The Cloaked Man tensed, anxiously. If he failed, it could meanthe end for 105 his world, this world, and countless more. No, he answered to his doubts. 106 He would succeed. He had to. He wouldd recover the Quantier. He would find 107 the girl, and the Pool. 006=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/04/89 16:27 Msg:4430 Call:24398 Lines:1 108 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 007=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/04/89 18:18 Msg:4431 Call:24399 Lines:6 109 &*&*&*&*'s 110 Anybody know where I can get a Motorola 68000 cpu? 8mhz is fine. Help! 111 112 An Astral Dreamer 113 &*&*&*&*'s 114 008=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/05/89 07:54 Msg:4432 Call:24410 Lines:17 115 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 116 I knew the man was lying. But why? And what was a "Quantier"? 117 Not dropping the goblet, I said to him, "I'm sorry for firing at you, but I 118 had been attacked very recently, and by someone who seems to have been you! 119 Remove all of your garments, carefully, and keep your right hand up in the 120 air where I can see it. Move slowly." 121 As I spoke, the man, Michael, dropped his left hand toward his side. 122 "Foooom!" A pencil thick ruby light shot out from the goblet, (Quantier?) 123 and passed between the mans thigh and his hand, although not touching him. 124 This thing had a mind of its own, and was protecting me. Or was it just 125 not wanting to go back to this man, who perhaps was its rightful owner? 126 "Don't try that again! I mean you no harm, but I must protect myself. If 127 you have a weapon there, remove it slowly, and toss it away. I can tell 128 when you move to harm me." 129 Curioser and curiouser. 130 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 131 009=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/06/89 20:25 Msg:4433 Call:24441 Lines:112 132 *%)#@*)_#@%)_@*)_@%*()_#$%(_)^*)_$*&_)^(*_#)(^%#$+%+_%)$#^*_%()_^$#_@)(%^$_#)%( 133 AD: Sorry, news doesn't run on 68000's. 134 Cat of Strayness: What did you mean about rattled cages? Who was going the 135 rattling? Certainly not me. I rattled awhile ago and got a mouth full of 136 straw. I see very clearly where I stand, and it's not with a leg to stand 137 on, if you get my drift. I tried, I hoped against hope, but nay, I got 138 nothing but a snip of a remark and the dark feelings that came along with 139 it. I makes me mad, but it makes me even more sad to see such a wonderful 140 thing turn so cold and cheerless. No :-) and tee hee here please, there is 141 nothing at all to :-) and tee hee about w.r.t. this... 142 *$)_($_)@!($)_@()_$#@%^*#)_$^(# L'homme sans Parity *%@_#)()_#@(%@#_)%*#)_@(_@( 143 144 Something else I must say, as my thinking some days returns to time previous... 145 146 Are we all happier now then we were a few years ago? Now think about it 147 carefully. Really, are we doing better these days than we did before? A 148 few points to ponder... 149 150 1. A bunch of the users on this system used to get together *every* two 151 weeks downtown and chat and eat and drink and joke and plan. It was 152 simply the place to be and the thing to do! I remember sitting in 153 the library waiting for the PorSFS meeting to end so we could all 154 head over to the PC&S for libations. Then after that we would often 155 go to a movie or to someone's house and continue on from there. It 156 was social, it was fun, and I miss the interaction. 157 158 2. We used to have *big* multi-authored interactive stories on BW. Then 159 for a long time they died. They are making a small comeback but 160 frankly it just ain't even close to the same. 161 162 3. We used to trade code programs and NET messages and BW disk 163 deflower programs. 164 165 4. We all used to talk to each other a heck of a lot more. 166 167 Here are a few of my thoughts on why the above observations represent the 168 past and why I am afraid the past won't be repeating itself in the near 169 future, if ever. 170 171 1. A law of nature, though I can't find the damn place where this is 172 written, says that all good things must come to an end. We had a good 173 thing, it came to an end. Nature's way of reminding us all who is 174 still da boss? 175 176 2. We are all much busier now, right? Many of us have left the relatively 177 friendly confines of school/self-employment for the absolute prison of 178 THE REAL WORLD, where mortgages must be paid, money saved, big promises 179 to your boss and co-workers kept, and so on. No more friendly cramming 180 for a calculus test here my friends - that report is due on Monday, and 181 it can't be late!!! 182 183 3. The social structures around us failed. Think about it - PorSFS moved, 184 the PC&S is now a _insert country here_ deli, and people have moved on. 185 Now think about that last one, it is a real key. I think part of #1 186 applies here: Nature, through it's good friend entropy, rips circles 187 of friends apart when they have been together too long. Sometimes it 188 even rips people apart (and you know who you are) if they refuse to 189 move on their own. 190 191 4. We failed ourselves. Maybe we didn't try to fight #1-#3. Maybe we needed 192 to work harder to get a new place to meet, or to keep calling every day, 193 or to take time to write the next decoder ring, and so on. Maybe we 194 could have fought nature and made things last a little longer, but we 195 didn't. 196 197 So what can we do, if there is anything we can do? Maybe nothing, and here 198 is why I think that. 199 200 1. Too many people have moved away. Remember the RISK games? Alex is gone. 201 Remember the TWIT wars? *Most* of the twits are gone. Why I haven't 202 seen the threat to DESTOY THE WOLD in years, and you know very well 203 that ZZTOP hasn't come out with an album in a long time, let alone 204 RULE anything. 205 206 2. We are all just too busy getting that report done by Monday. WE as in 207 all of us. Think about it. A, B, C, and D are all working full time. 208 E has a baby. F is married and has no time for such things. G doesn't 209 have a computer anymore. H has a mortgage and seems to need pressure 210 like a drug. I, J, K, and L have moved away and have left no forwarding 211 address, but even if they did they don't have the money to call 212 long distance. 213 214 3. We still have to deal with that Nature thing. It whipped us once and it 215 ain't gonna let us get back together, no matter how hard we try. 216 217 I once heard the universe described as a big cake batter, and all the galaxies 218 were raisons placed throughout the batter. When you bake the cake, the 219 raisons all move away from where they started and away from each other. 220 221 We are all raisons. 222 223 But the difference is that when the cake is done baking you have something 224 really nice to feast on. Something good comes out of that process. 225 226 Are we as good as the cake? 227 228 You know, each and every one of us that remains that I know something 229 about and feel somewhat qualified to make off-the-cuff remarks about 230 has survived these last few years, and we have for the most part 231 thrived in most of our endeavors. Of course there have been shattering 232 defeats, on both the economic realm and more important emotional realm, but 233 alive we still all are, and I guess that is saying something in spite 234 of our raisoness. 235 236 I know this is babble, and I know I will probably be flamed, but I don't 237 give a damn about that. 238 Our little community was made on rambles and conversations and discussions 239 and I miss those days and I was just wondering if others were missing them 240 as well, or am I just a little raison all by myself in a big batch of 241 warmed-over cake batter................ 242 243 *%()_@*%)_#@%*()_$#*%^@_)#$^(_)#^ L'homme sans Parity *%@#_%*)_@#%@)_#(%@#)_ 010=Usr:29 The Bard 10/06/89 23:15 Msg:4434 Call:24445 Lines:17 244 Well, I'll admit it... I haven't had the time to *play* with computers much for 245 some time. Even a large portion of my net.news habit is dedicated to looking 246 for stuff that might come in handy at work. (remind me to properly "thank" the 247 people who got me hooked on the net... something slow and lingering?) 248 249 My job takes far to much of my time and I've discovered the curse of being a 250 "dedicated professional". Recently a new co-worker found out that I had almost 251 6 *weeks* of unused vacation time. His joking "Get a life!" was rather hard to 252 smile at. He has never been in the position of having to cancel plans because 253 due to personnel changes *you* are the entire department. 254 255 Even worse is finding that special someone and almost never being able to spend 256 time together because if her job isn't getting in the way, yours is. 257 258 I won't flame you, l'homme, but I hope you'll understand that given the above, 259 some things seem a lot less important. 260 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 011=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/07/89 10:03 Msg:4435 Call:24451 Lines:23 261 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 262 L'Homme - I was in the position of being out of school and supporting a 263 family before I discovered the BBS community. So I never really got to 264 be one of the inner circle. I was sort of second circle. Your commentary 265 was actually quite depressing in one way, but it showed me the truth that 266 we do all grow older. I personally refuse to give up my toys, but I find 267 less and less time to play with them. 268 I have a daughter on the way, and that has forced a change of career path 269 on me (I did the forcing, not some nefarious boss). I have chosen one 270 that has less travel, less stress, less overtime, less chance for 271 advancement (every yin has its yang), etc. So I am starting a BBS of my 272 own. The computer has a cradle next to it, to be replaced by a playpen 273 when appropriate, so I can spend time with Jillian and do the BBS at the 274 same time, while she is sleeping. 275 We all make changes, and we choose those changes. The BBS community is 276 not quite so homogenous as it once was. Once 'puters became user friendly, 277 the changes became inexorable. But I don't feel it is all bad. We have the 278 present now, we can visit the past any time we feel like it, and the future 279 is there to terrify us all. 280 No flames, just observations, as your's were. 281 [][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 282 PS. 3.5 file boxes. It's on paper now. 283 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 012=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/07/89 18:33 Msg:4436 Call:24459 Lines:23 284 &*&*&*&*'s 285 My quest for a MC68000 seems to be failing. Oh well. 286 287 I wasn't around in the golden days. I laked the needed hardware, and for 288 that I will always be sorry. It is not unusual to be wistfull about 289 times in the past that were happy, but there is a saying that goes 'You 290 can never go back.' It never will be the same. 291 292 But that is not all bad. Pleasent places and situations can become wombs, 293 from which we are afraid or unwilling to leave. It may be hard, but eventually 294 we must move on. If we have learned somthing, gained somthing and given 295 somthing in the proccess, then I think good has been done. 296 297 With any luck we'll all finish this game with a sense of having done 298 somthing important. Just making it to old age with a sense of wonder 299 will be more then enough for me. 300 301 Heres to new tommorows in which we all find what we need, and if we can 302 accomplish anypart of it together, then all the better. 303 304 An Astral Dreamer 305 &*&*&*&*'s 306 013=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/07/89 19:47 Msg:4437 Call:24460 Lines:85 307 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 308 L'Homme: Speaking as one who has been around this board for roughly four 309 years, while I +must+ admit that change has certainly creaked into the 310 floorboards of the Inn, and that the tone and atmosphere of what was once 311 Innisfall has also been enveloped in a wave of transformation, I also feel 312 that such changes might prove somewhat beneficial when looked back upon some 313 time from now. 314 Speaking from a strictly, literary standpoint, looking at the entire 315 Innisfall perspective, I believe that I came into the Inn during one of its 316 many downward cycles, with regards to both story tone and atmosphere. The 317 emotions were tensed and hushed, cloaks and hoods flourished, and new 318 arrivals seldom showed up at the door, preferring instead to sneak in (I 319 recall, on one occassion, an arrival appearing through the floorboards!). 320 Oh, granted, there were quests, and noble quests at that, but even they were 321 touched with a pessimism and harshness, a sense that the shadow of the night 322 was passing over the Inn. The Piper played, but the tune was abitter one. 323 Philosophy was a tremendous issue, a question of where the travellers had been, 324 what their existence, and presence at thhe Inn meant, what the Inn itself 325 signified, for that matter. Life and death, the eternal opposites, were the 326 two driving forces for the thoughts and deeds that became legend. 327 Alas, the thoughts of death foreshadowed the coming of the demise of the Inn, 328 but with it came a +new+ birth. Trying to compare it with the Old Inn only 329 obfuscates the obvious... that there can be no comparison. One was one, the 330 other its own entity, which is only now coming to life, fleshing out, as it 331 were. 332 If we had never created this new world, simply letting the memory of the Inn 333 and the forgotten flagons on dusty tables serve as our only connection with the 334 deeds and wonders that took place, we would make a mockery of everything that 335 the Inn stood for, ad everything that Pyrrix A'aaal may yet stand for. 336 Surely, we both lament the Inn, and those who have traveled down the road, 337 past the Great Tree, and into the sunset, or those who were mysteriously lost 338 during the Innisfall Cataclysm, but we must also remember that we are dealing 339 with something new, as well. 340 If you are dissatisfied with the direction of Pyrrix A'aaal's development, you 341 have my permission, as well as the permission of all those who have thusfar to 342 create this new world, to add to it.Remember, we are dealing with a WORLD now, 343 and not simply an Inn. Remember, too, that, over the course of my joint 344 literary effort with Friar and the mysterious girl, we've only scratched the 345 SURFACE! We created a city, the Stone Troiangle, the Networks (No relation to 346 the NET), and the Pool. I am SURE that there is more to Pyrrix A'aaal than 347 these elements. And, if you find that your creativity fails you when you next 348 take keyboard in hand, those elements already mentioned still need exploration. 349 What are their origins? What are their purposes? There are literally 350 thousands of questions about those first few elements that must be answered, 351 and, as with any truly good questions, the answers will quickly lead to even 352 more unknown factors. Remember, that was how Innisfall was created in the 353 first place! 354 I have yet to see a man without Parity wandering the city, or the Networks, or 355 some as-yet-unknown part of Pyrrix A'aaal. When he does, and when others 356 follow suit, something ELSE, no matter how frightening the prospect may seem, 357 will be there, and each writer can create his own small secttion. If the 358 Cloaked Man combs the Networks on his dark quests, or if Friar roams the lands 359 in search of the Pool, and the visitor, and if more and more users join into 360 the setting, if not the specifc events, then what we have created thus far 361 will have been worthwhile. 362 Will it be the same as Innisfall? No. Will it be better or worse? One cannot 363 judge these things. If it is better, it is so because the authors will it, 364 and if not, it is so because the authors have yet to MAKE it better. Will it 365 be? Yes, and that is really all that matters, isn't it? 366 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 367 L'Homme: No flame intended. Glad to see you're reopening the NET. Out of 368 curiosity, did the previous incarnation have any connections, however 369 obscure, with Innisfall, or was it a seperate entity on divergent timelines? 370 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 371 So much for Plan *A*, thought the Cloaked Man, backing away from the 372 object of his attentions. His thin fingers unfastened the holster to his 373 phaseline, allowing the weapon to drop to the ground, noticing, as it did, 374 that he had dropped it just in time for it to become fully charged. 375 Cursing inwardly, he attempted the opposite outwardly. Smiling, he 376 held his hands in the air. "As you can see, I am unarmed, kind sir. Now, I 377 beg of you to PLEASE refrain from utilizing that most pernicious device!" 378 As the Cloaked Man waited for a reply, he shuddered suddenly, legs 379 buckling a bit beneath him. He looked up at the Stone Triangle, which 380 throbbed royal purple in the night sky to the west. A wet trickle ran down 381 the Cloaked Man's arm. Looking up, he saw the hazy yellow fluid seeping from 382 a small wound on his hand. Shivering, he mentally commanded his cloak to wrap 383 itself slightly around his lower body, praying that his enemy did not 384 discern this to be an attack. "Only the cold... " he assured. 385 Somewhere, deep within his soul, the Cloaked Man couuld feel a great maw 386 opening up, blasting him with shards of ice, while simultneously drawing from 387 his reserves of strength. 388 He pitched forwardd, suddenly, gasping. "The paradox... The Devourer of 389 Itself... It feeds, it grows, it widens." As the world began to spin around 390 him, the Cloaked Man thought he could hear the distant sound of thunder. 391 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 014=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 10/07/89 21:00 Msg:4438 Call:24463 Lines:23 392 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 393 I felt the air grow tense. Not from the man before me, but from nature 394 itself. Suddenly a bolt of lightning shot from the ground to the sky 395 and it came from between the cloaked man and I. I felt myself hurled 396 backwards, with tremendous force, and over many miles. I wondered, as I 397 heard the thunder roar, if the cloaked man was the cause of the 398 sustained lightning, or if this infernal goblet had caused it. 399 Then blackness came over me... 400 401 ...Uhh. 402 For the second time in what seemed only a few minutes, I felt myself 403 returning to conciousness. It must have been longer though, for I was on 404 a rough bed in a place I recognized as a back room of some inn somewhere. 405 I could hear the gaiety from the front room on the air. I tried to 406 think more clearly, and found a couple of shreds from the blacked out 407 period. A pleasant woman, tending to bruises and abrasions. A stout 408 mule dragging me in an Indian fashion travois. No more, just snippets 409 of sensory data. 410 What had happened to the cloaked man? And where had the woman brought 411 me? And where had she gone? I was hungry, and my pouch was at hand, 412 yet I was almost afraid to reach into it, for fear the "Quantier" was 413 still with me. 414 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 015=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/08/89 00:02 Msg:4439 Call:24467 Lines:81 415 696969696969 416 6-OCT-1989 Reaction to Bakker conviction mixed 417 CHARLOTTE, N.C. (UPI) -- Reaction to Thursday's federal conviction of PTL 418 television evangelist Jim Bakker on fraud and conspiracy charges ranged from 419 celebration to sadness for his family to relief that the case was finally over. 420 "While I am personally sorry for Mr. Bakker, his family and the thousands wh 421 have been hurt by the PTL saga, I am pleased that this dark chapter of religiou 422 history has concluded," said the Rev. Jerry Falwell, a leading fundamentalist. 423 "I have no interest in defending my brief involvement with PTL some 2.5 year 424 ago, as that has already been well documented," said Falwell, who took over PTL 425 in 1987 after the disclosure of Bakker's sexual encounter with Jessica Hahn. 426 The jury of six men and six women convicted Bakker of 23 counts of mail and 427 wire fraud and one count of conspiracy for his fund-raising tactics at PTL. 428 Evangelist Billy Graham said he was sorry for the Bakkers and for their 429 followers. "I am saddened by the Bakkers' personal tragedy, but at the same tim 430 I feel sorry for the many sincere supporters who have also been hurt by this 431 situation," Graham said in a statement from Minneapolis. 432 "This verdict doesn't bother the work of the Lord; the work of the Church 433 continues to go on no matter what happens," Graham said. "God's work is not 434 dependent upon one person -- it is dependent upon the Holy Spirit." 435 Hahn said Bakker deserved to be convicted. "I don't feel sorry for him one 436 bit," she said outside her father's home in Massapequa, N.Y. "I feel sorry for 437 what my family had to go through and for what people in the PTL minstry went 438 through." 439 She said she does not think Bakker will do well in prison. "I don't know tha 440 Jim Bakker will be able to survive jail. I don't know that Tammy will be able t 441 survive it, but you know what? I frankly don't give a damn." 442 Don Hardister, 38, who once served as Bakker's security guard and now lives 443 near the Bakker home in Tega Cay, S.C., said, "It's hard for me to believe that 444 I gave 12 years of my life to a scam." 445 Hardister said his "heart goes out to" the Bakker children, Tammy Sue Chapma 446 and Jamie Charles Bakker. "They're innocent," he said. "I raised those two." 447 "I'm sad for the 2,400-plus employees of a great ministry has ended this 448 way," Hardister said. "It's not fair to all those people who worked hard and 449 were honest and believed in PTL." 450 Samuel Trussel, a lawyer for the PTL Litigation Group that has filed a 451 class-action lawsuit against Bakker, said the conviction will help his case. 452 When asked by telephone if he had heard of Bakker's conviction, Trussel said 453 "Yeah, I just heard. We sent out for pizza to celebrate." 454 Trussel and lawyer Tom Anderson, both based in Indio, Calif., filed the 455 class-action suit in 1987, alleging fraud, security law violations and 456 time-share act violations by Bakker and the others at PTL. 457 "We have sued Mr. Bakker for fraud, and now he has been found guilty of that 458 beyond a reasonable doubt," Trussel said. 459 The class-action lawsuit was filed against Bakker, two auditing companies, a 460 bank and Roe Messner, the contractor who built the Heritage Grand Hotel. 461 Richard Dortch, Bakker's top aid at PTL, was a co-defendant in the case. On 462 Aug. 8 he pleaded guilty to four of the 24 charges. Part of the plea bargain wa 463 for Dortch to testify against Bakker. Dortch was sentenced to eight years in 464 prison. 465 Joe Haviland of Atlanta, president of PTL Partners, severely criticized U.S. 466 District Judge Robert Potter and defense lawyers George Davis and Harold Bender 467 "The only thing Jim Bakker is guilty of is having a biased judge and an inep 468 defense team," Haviland said. "There is no doubt of the bias of the judge. He 469 stuck his fingers in his ears and closed his eyes when there was something he 470 didn't want to see." 471 Haviland also said Bakker was treated unfairly when he suffered an emotional 472 breakdown during the trial. Bakker was handcuffed and sent to the psychiatric 473 ward at the Federal Correctional Institution in Butner, N.C., for a competency 474 test. 475 "To drag a man through the press in shackles, that's degrading a person and 476 not trying to get him help," Haviland said. 477 Haviland said Bakker's defense lawyers were not prepared for the case. 478 Jerry Rose, the president of National Religious Broadcasters in Chicago, sai 479 the verdict will not hurt the television evangelism industry. 480 "I don't think this decision is going to have much impact. For the most part 481 we've gone through the catharsis in the past two years," Rose said. "People hav 482 hd a couple of years and a couple of calamities to hammer out their decisions. 483 People have made their decisions, not just about the television or radio 484 ministry, but about ministry in general." 485 486 Lee Atwater, chairman of the National Republican Committee, commented: "I 487 don't know what all the hullaballo is all about. Jim Bakker was acting in the 488 new tradition of the Reagan/Bush Republican Party. I'm thinking of scheduling 489 him to appear at fund-raisers for our candidates, and to arrange speaking 490 engagements at Republican gatherings. I think he would be a speaker to 491 follow Oliver North on the dias. Jim Bakker deserves a medal for initiative in 492 the private sector, in my book." 493 494 696969696969696969 495 016=Usr:415 Jessie a 10/08/89 09:39 Msg:4440 Call:24472 Lines:17 496 *.*.*.*.*.*.Jessie 497 The pleasant woman takes a wet cloth and starts to mop up the Friar, who is 498 rather the worse for wear and exclaims in loud ouches when the parts of his 499 body are attended to. 500 "Soul Brother, what in the world were you doing lying in the street for the 501 horses to step on? You might have damaged some of their feet to say nothing of 502 what you would have done to yourself! I thought my soul family had better sense 503 than that! I tucked away the chalice you were carrying for you. There was some 504 wierd guy trying to steal it while you lay there dazed. Okay...so tell me..what 505 in the world is going on? Its bad enough to go for years without running in to 506 family without finding one of them in a most undignified position about to 507 become a candidate for wheel ruts in the face. My sister runs the Inn here and 508 she said I could dump you on the bed but to make sure you don't have fleas as 509 she thinks my family members are all a bit too wierd for her. For common family 510 she is pretty neat kid. So much for my explainations Friar.....you got one of 511 your own to offer?" 512 *.*.*.*.*.*.Jessie 017=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/08/89 12:45 Msg:4441 Call:24478 Lines:91 513 *************************************************************************** 514 As a certain well known folk singer once sang, 515 "The times they are a changin'." 516 517 So true. In the guise of my many characters I was at one time quite active 518 here. I think it is safe to say that I am the longest time "old timer" 519 here. But, then I get to say that because I started the system. It's 520 creator if you will. That doesn't mean that I created the Inn though. 521 Certainly I participated in the Inn's creation, but only as one of the 522 members. Like a god, I set the rules in place and let the game play out of 523 its own accord. 524 525 In my own mind I divide up the periods of the system in a number of times. 526 There was the startup period when BW found its name the result of which 527 soon after brought into existance my own name. That time was different, the 528 people were different, the times were different, and BW was different. 529 During that time the BW software changed in minor ways, though the basic 530 structure remained unchanged. 531 532 Then came the time when BW found it's form. When it grew beyond the simple 533 existance of glowing phospher on a screen or ink on a piece of paper. It 534 took form and became a reality. This was the formative time when many of 535 the revered "old timers" came upon the scene. This formation was traced 536 back to one called "Dragon Lady." She no longer participates here, but her 537 words live on in the archives. This time was before the NET and multi- 538 authored stories as they are generally known. There were multi-authored 539 stories, but it was a time of testing. The formative years as it were. This 540 was a time when the Inn was new and still being created. Unhampered by 541 concepts of what the Inn must be. It was not known what the Inn was. It was 542 just a place for a small group of people to express themselves in a new 543 way. A time of self-discovery both for themselves and for the Inn. 544 545 There then came a time when the Inn changed in several ways. It found a new 546 home in a move from West Linn to Portland. In that process it gained new 547 friends and a much expanded use. The Inn changed again, it matured. It grew 548 and found a world outside its doors. This was the "good-old-days." The 549 period when multi-authored stories took on their own life. The golden years 550 that memories are made of. 551 552 For those of us who participated, there was a little part of each of us in 553 the Inn. We each built a little bit of the reality of the Inn, and in the 554 process we each became a part of the Inn itself. Our own lives and that of 555 the Inn became intertwined. Our good times were the Inn's good times, and 556 our down times were the Inn's down times. Perhaps each of us were somehow 557 tied to the others a little bit because of this. In a way we grew with the 558 Inn, and the Inn grew with us. 559 560 We all gained new friends. Some just passing acquaintances, and others a 561 close bonding. Some of the friends are gone, and others remain. Some are 562 well rid of, and others are a painful loss. As a semi-well-known story 563 starts out, "It was the best of times. It was the worst of times." This too 564 can describe the Inn and the times for many of those participating. They 565 were glorious years when we built the memories that will be a part of our 566 lifes. Something to look back on and say; "This was good. This was 567 important to me. This was something I did for myself." 568 569 We all have friends met here that have moved on to live their own lives. 570 For L'homme it is Alex, for another it is Piper, for me it is Pam. We yearn 571 to recapture a part of that past. To restore something that was lost. 572 Yet there are friends that remain. They are friendships that survived the 573 change. Oh they are changed certainly. But in one way or another they 574 survived. And as always, we retain the memories of the old friendships and 575 the good times. 576 577 What happened to the Inn and those that made up its reality? As was stated, 578 nothing lasts for ever. There are many reasons that can be said why things 579 changed, and there is probably a little bit of all of them involved. Was 580 the Inn too good a thing to last? Perhaps. 581 582 Those who were jealous or simply derived their pleasure from desecrating 583 that which others find joy in drove a part of the change. The Innhabitants 584 running out of ideas, or growing tied of the same old thing drove another 585 part of it. Wanting a change but unable to justify to themselves and others 586 that they don't want to continue with the reality also drove it. And, 587 changes in our own lives that change our outlook on the world drove it too. 588 589 We all looked forward to the change and worked hard to accomplish it. If we 590 liked the way the Inn was, why did we work so hard to change it? We opened 591 the door into a new BW, and closed the past on the old Inn. Packaging up 592 the past in a neat little packet that we can remember without the intrusion 593 of the current reality. Having insured that the past was safely put away we 594 got on with the business of living. 595 596 Will we ever find the old Inn as we knew it again? No. Why would we exhume 597 a past that we have buried and left to rest in peace? But, we will find 598 other Inns in the future. New realities to build and enjoy. New memories, 599 new Inns to hold dear in our memories of life. New friends to share life 600 with and old friendship to renew again. In the meantime, we are still here, 601 and life still goes on. 602 ***************************** CISTOP MIKEY ******************************** 603 018=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/08/89 14:34 Msg:4442 Call:24479 Lines:64 604 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 605 Mikey: My thoughts exactly. Glad to see some interaction with the One On 606 High again... 607 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 608 609 The Cloaked Man lay there, in the sharp, stinging nettles of the softly 610 swaying grass of pink. Looking into the night sky, he could vaguely see the 611 reflections of the glowing of the Stone Triangle on passing clouds. With each 612 spasm of energy that erupted from the Triangle, he winced, as a shivering 613 blade of agony sliced through him. 614 Quaking slightly, he finally made an attempt to stand. On weakened legs, 615 he rose, surveying his surroundings. Not that he could see much, with the 616 blasted fog covering a good pportion of the landscape. Judging from the 617 accuracy of the shots Friar fired from the Quantier, the fog was invisible to 618 his enemy, and he had yet to see any of the other beings on this world 619 suffering from impaired vision. Again, he silently cursed his failure to 620 recognize this new factor when he had first arrived. Had he, he might have 621 dealt with the Friar more quickly, and would have the Quantier well in- 622 The Quantier! With shivering hands he reached into his pouch, drawing 623 forth the metal rod that he had placed there. Depressing a green disc on the 624 flat portion of the base, he positioned the middle of the rod at eye level. 625 The world grew red and hazy for a few moments, and then The Cloaked Man 626 was faced with a rough grid of the Line Phase Structures of Pyrrix A'aaal,more 627 specifically his present location, and its relation to the Central City, as 628 these were the only areas thathe had chanced to visit on his quest. 629 "Scan for an ambient link." he told himself. "Complying." he whispered. 630 "It +should+ prove to be rather easy to locate, judging from the lack of phase 631 technology here." 632 A bright green grid crisscrossed the red bands, until a skewed 633 checkerboard pattern emerged. Within each, a tiny square flashed with 634 patterns particular to it. The eyes of the Cloaked Man took in every facet of 635 the huge image before him, processing each pattern, and eliminating it from 636 the overall pattern. Blocks of bright light began trickling ay from the 637 grids, falling to the ground below and vanishing in the dust. 638 Finally, one single square, glowing brightly, its unique heartbeat almost 639 screaming of energy and strength, pulsed before him. "Center the image." he 640 commanded to himself. "Complying." The square became the only portion of the 641 grid present. "Linelock." he called. Beams of red jutted suddenly from the 642 square, careening wildly from its core, with no apparent pattern. "Discern the 643 lines." 644 As the images faded from view, the Cloaked Man returned the rod to his 645 pack, which he slung around to the left side of his waist and positioned the 646 straps accordingly. 647 His legs buckled again, suddenly. Remembering his wound, he examined it 648 once more. The pinprick had widened into a deep gash, soft hazy light 649 filtering through the useless flesh that had been torn asunder. Tearing off a 650 section of his cloak, he wrapped the cloth tightly around his hand to lessen 651 the loss of energy. 652 His head jerked upright. "Line has been discerned." he muttered. 653 "The time has come to end this." As he drew his tattered cloak around himself, 654 he winced, feeling a sharp pain stab at his left shoulder. A tiny pinprick 655 of a stab had appeared. "Damnable paradoxes." he gasped, ignoring the pain. 656 "You've eluded me twice, Friar. You'll not do so again." 657 Drawing his weapon from the ground, making sure it was fully charged, he 658 refastened the holster and placed it within. "The games of cat and mouse 659 are over. You've played me for a fool, and thus far I have sadly fit the part, 660 but no more." He stopped, pausing. Staring off into the night, at the 661 Triangle, he asked "Recording?" A spark of acknowledgement flittered through 662 his green aura. "Both audio and visual." Another spark. "Good." 663 Again, he drew his cloak around himself, sinking into the blackness. 664 Within the dark, he could see the line of red... the path of the Quantier. 665 He would be with the Friar in but a few seconds. This time, however, he would 666 be ready, and the paradox would close once and for all. 667 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 019=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/08/89 20:10 Msg:4445 Call:24488 Lines:48 668 *%@#)_(*%)_#@($%)_#%(_$#%_+)!@_+$(#)_*^_)(%)_#@(%$#_)+_#@)%#_%(@_+$)(%@_+#(%#$^ 669 Bard: You know, I have never quite seen a message like that from you, but I am 670 glad I have now. It was a thoughtful summation of your reaction to my message, 671 and it gave me some insight into how you feel about the situation. Thank you 672 for sharing it with us. A lot of familiar words were contained in your entry. 673 674 Friar: You too represent the changes I was talking about. More important things 675 do come along, and the old hobbies must take a back seat to babies and new 676 jobs and so forth. I understand what you are talking about, and I wish you 677 luck on your computer placement. 678 679 Zephyr: I think you have misunderstood much of what I was talking about. I was 680 not sad about the changes to the Inn, or the creation of a new world. I was 681 a part of the death of the old Inn, and had a major role in the whole death/ 682 rebirth storyline. What I was discussing was the higher issues of the social 683 interaction above and beyond the board. We all met at the Inn, but as a group 684 we developed far beyond "bon ami l'electronique." I miss that interaction with 685 flesh and bones friends most of all. 686 687 Backwater started dying long before we undertook the rewrite of the system. 688 It was adrift with twits and abusers, and something had to be done. The 689 apathy, not malicious in nature, was because of external changes. Yes, I 690 am all too familiar with change, and I am as guilty as anyone of changing, 691 but change doesn't always have to be a drastic as it was to our group. For 692 as much time as we used to spend together, hardly anything exists now. That 693 is what I am talking about. 694 695 We enjoyed/suffered through countless debates, stories, deaths and rebirths 696 on the BBS. These things are all fine and good, and the archives are wonderful 697 for going back and looking at all of this. 698 699 Unfortunately, there is no easy archive for all the times we spent in each- 700 other's company, save those memories we each keep for ourselves. 701 702 Perhaps that will have to suffice. 703 704 Mikey: I know you understand the loss of friends, and the loss of someone 705 you care for. I wish there was some way to bring back some of those old 706 friends, but I don't think there is. Too much water has passed under the 707 bridge to bring back people now, even if it were possible above and beyond 708 simple logistics. 709 710 That's all I can write for now. I fear that recounting some of these old 711 memories are rather painful, but I won't shy away from the discussion, but 712 no more right now. I hope you understand. 713 714 *%@_#)*%_)#@%()_#@(%)_#^*)_$^!_)^*! L'homme sans Parity %*@#_)%_(%@#_*_)@%@_)# 715 020=Usr:13 voyeur 10/09/89 02:46 Msg:4446 Call:24499 Lines:8 716 ::::::::::::O O::::::::::10/09/89::::::::::::::::::::::::::::02:39:51:::O O:::: 717 I imagine I'm supposed to share *my* views on the death of our group/BW now. 718 Sorry, no. Nothing would be accomplished but a lot of negative vibes. 719 However, to paraphrase one of the twits of that time, "Entropy Rules." 720 Or maybe my own personal philosophy applies here - "Sh!t Happens" 721 Whatever the case, I grievously miss the good-old-days, both the writting 722 and the camaraderie. 723 :::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::: 021=Usr:371 The Adherent 10/09/89 06:00 Msg:4447 Call:24500 Lines:32 724 L----!----!-----------------------------------------------------!----!---R 725 726 Monsieur sans Parity, amazed am I that you should compare yourself un- 727 to a raisin. Though greater than a mustard seed, or grains of sand, I 728 concur with the analogy. From discourses on this, the prsent disk, I re- 729 member such times of gathering. Faces seen but once a fortnight, words 730 traded, drinks downed and occasional shared, reflective car-rides home; 731 such memories we have in common, such motivations! Blatantly, writing was 732 in effort to rejoin parted companions. 733 734 And such were the tales told. A story of ruby valleys, where came a 735 fantasy-warrior -- whose name had been "dropped" -- his entry to a curio 736 shop and the emrgence of the bete noire against evil, a NET agent. Those 737 present, then and now, can not deny you were and are a luminary. 738 739 Indeed, circumstances have changed since, a new generation of contrib- 740 utors are at lage. Old masters are dearly missed, and those who might be 741 giants now slowly write the pages that shall lift them before others. To 742 join you now is but a dream, the sands of time have narrow allowances. 743 744 "For the sands become a curse, and most of you have gone away." 745 Truthfully, I am the one having left, and the curse self-imposed. Few of 746 us are free from the wandering away. So, Monsieur, your presence was 747 missed at the latest such gathering -- Milchar's and voyeur's as well. 748 -adherent 749 750 L----!----!------------------------------------------------------!---!---R 751 752 An aside... Note that M. sans Parity does not make mistakes. 753 Not "raisin," but "raison;" in mastery of his foreign tounge. 754 Raison, as in "raison d'etre" -- "reason for being." Very clever. -ad 755 L----!----!------------------------------------------------------!---!---R 022=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/09/89 15:41 Msg:4448 Call:24513 Lines:9 756 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 757 L'Homme: Understood, and agreed. Now, a small question. I am familiar with 758 the NET organization, but am curious as to what possible link it might have had 759 with Innisfall. Looking over my 5 years + archive data, I've not seen any sort 760 of "real" interaction between the two. Were they serperate enties? 761 Since I see that the NET organization is rebuilding to an extent, I'm wondering 762 if, in the event that the Innisfall/NET link DID exist, you plan on linking up 763 with Pyrrix A'aaal. 764 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 023=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/09/89 20:56 Msg:4449 Call:24524 Lines:100 765 696969696969 766 MOSCOW (10/9/89) UPI - The official Soviet news agency Tass reported Monday 767 that a flying saucer landed in a Russian city recently, and its occupants, 768 tiny-headed aliens up to 13 feet tall, frightened residents during a stroll 769 through a park. 770 771 The agency said scientists confirmed the landing and extravehicular activity 772 in Voronezh, a city of about 780,000 people 300 miles south of Moscow, and 773 noted that the aliens, who were escorted by a robot during their "promenade 774 around the park," left behind two chunks of rock never before found on Earth. 775 776 "A large shining disk was seen hovering above the park," Tass said. "It 777 then landed, a hatch opened, and one, two or three creatures similar to humans 778 and a small robot came out. The aliens were 3 or even 4 meters high (10 to 13 779 feet), but with very small heads, witnesses say. 780 781 "They walked near the disc and then disappeared inside," the official news 782 agency said. "Onlookers were overwhelmed by a fear that lasted for several 783 days." 784 785 Tass added, "Scientists have confirmed that an unidentified flying object 786 recently landed in a park in the Russian city of Voronezh," Tass said. "They 787 have also identified the landing site and found traces of aliens who made a 788 short promenade around the park. 789 790 "The aliens visited the place at least three times after dark, local 791 residents report," Tass said. 792 793 Tass quoted Genrikh Silanov, head of the Voronezh Geophysical Laboratory, as 794 saying his scientists identified the landing site by using a technique called 795 "biolocation." The term was not described. 796 797 Silanov said in an interview with Tass that the unidentified flying object 798 left clear marks in the park. "We detected a circle 20 meters (65 feet) in 799 diameter," he said. "Four dents 4 to 5 centimeters (1.6 to 2 inches) deep, 800 each with a diameter of 14 to 16 centimeters (5.5 to 6.3 inches), were clearly 801 visible. 802 803 "We also found two mysterious pieces of rock," Silanov said. "At first 804 glance they looked like sandstone of a deep-red color. But mineralogical 805 analysis has shown that the substance cannot be found on earth." 806 807 The scientists acknowledged that "additional tests are needed to reach a more 808 definite conclusion." 809 810 Tass said that "the route along which the aliens walked as described by 811 witnesses and the route established scientifically coincided." 812 813 Meanwhile, back in the U.S. of A. : 814 815 (10/9/89) UPI - A study found college seniors do not know much about 816 history or literature - with nearly a quarter unable to identify Franklin 817 Roosevelt as president during the Depression or distinguish between sections 818 of "The Communist Manifesto" and the Constitution. 819 820 The survey by the Gallup Organization was Sunday released in conjunction with 821 a National Endowment for the Humanities report calling for a core curriculum 822 in colleges that would teach students "basic landmarks of history and 823 thought." 824 825 "A core of learning ... encourages community," NEH Chairman Lynne Cheney said 826 in the report "50 Hours," which offers a sample core curriculum. "Having some 827 learning in common draws students together - and faculty members as well." 828 829 The NEH-commissioned survey asked students in the spring of their senior year 830 87 multiple-choice questions about history and literature. Fifty-five percent 831 flunked, answering fewer than 60 percent of the questions correctly. 832 833 Even more troubling, the study said, was that more than a third of the 834 questions were taken from 1986 test for 17-year-olds. When only the questions 835 designed to be answered correctly by most 17-year-olds were considered, 49 836 percent of the college seniors still failed. 837 838 The students even had trouble with five history questions derived from tests 839 given to people trying to become U.S. citizens. Only two of the questions were 840 answered correctly by a high percentage of students - and on one of those, 24 841 percent did not know Roosevelt was elected during the Depression. Of the 696 842 students at 67 colleges who took the test, 68 percent failed the literature 843 section and 39 percent failed the history section. 844 845 Eighty-three percent did not know T.S. Eliot wrote "The Wasteland" and "The 846 Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock," and 58 percent could not identify Plato as 847 the author of "The Republic" or Shakespeare as the author of "The Tempest." 848 Only 58 percent of the students knew that the Koran is a sacred text of Islam 849 - with 12 percent identifying it as a Jewish text, the survey found. 850 851 On the history section, the survey found "significant gaps," many of them 852 dealing with American history. Only 21 percent of the students, for example, 853 correctly answered that the Emancipation Proclamation declared slaves to be 854 free only in areas of Confederate states not held by the Union. 855 856 Forty-two percent of the students could not place the Civil War in the correct 857 half-century, and about a quarter said Columbus landed in the Western 858 Hemisphere sometime after 1500. 859 860 Twenty-three percent identified the phrase, "From each according to his 861 ability, to each according to his need," as a section of the Constitution 862 instead of "The Communist Manifesto" of Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels. On 863 average, men scored higher on the test than women, and seniors at private 864 colleges or universities had higher scores than those at public universities. 024=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/09/89 23:21 Msg:4450 Call:24527 Lines:45 865 696969696969696969 866 696969696969 867 ATLANTIS MAY FACE SHUTDOWN:-10/9/89 868 The space shuttle Atlantis is scheduled to launch Thursday, but 869 environmentalists are attempting to keep the shuttle on land. Their gripe: the 870 48 pounds of plutonium that will power the Galileo space probe that the 871 Atlantis is carrying. The anti-nuclear protesters will be in Washington, D.C. 872 Tuesday to air their complaints. 873 The two generators that contain the controversial radioactive plutonium 874 were loaded aboard the space shuttle Atlantis Sunday. The countdown for 875 Thursday's launch begins Monday by the National Aeronautics and Space 876 Administration in Cape Canaveral, Fla. Astronomers said the shuttle must be 877 launched by Nov. 21 or Jupiter will be out of the correct position. 878 NASA MUST MEET `WINDOW':-10/9/89 879 NASA says it must use the space shuttle Atlantis to send the Galileo probe 880 into orbit, because it can't refit Galileo for a regular, unmanned rocket by 881 the "launch window" deadline of Nov. 21. Galileo must launch by then or wait 882 until 1991, when Earth and Jupiter are again aligned for the spacecraft's 883 trajectory. The mission already is seven years over schedule. 884 885 696969696969696969 886 887 .............................................................. 888 As another long time user of Backwater, under various aliases and borders over 889 the years, I would like to add my thoughts to the nostalgia for the "good ole 890 days". Is it just my fading and faulty old memory, or was there a time a 891 long time ago, and far far way, when a story line here didn't always dis- 892 integrate into some cyberpunk sadistic shoot-em-up with laser weapons drivel? 893 I remember when there was some thought put into plot development, character 894 integrity, and continuity. I have absolutely no desire to re-create any of 895 the old scenerio, but it might be nice to get back to some good, articulate, 896 literate writing. Writing about lurking, or filling the disk writing about 897 filling the disk does not seem, to me, to fall into this catagory. The recent 898 discussion has been interesting, and a dose of reality mixed with the fantasy 899 seems, again, to me, to keep Backwater interesting. I mean look at the times 900 in which we live. The OFFICIAL news agency in the Soviet Union, and United 901 Press International are reporting a "scientifically confirmed" landing of a 902 UFO and extra terrestials while NASA is about to launch a space probe that 903 could potentially kill us all while the President is conducting drug deals 904 across the street from the White House (after the prior one was conducting 905 them in the White House basement) and tax money that was supposed to help 906 the ever-increasing number of homeless has been going to the very wealthy 907 power elite. What better fiction could any of us imagine, or write? 908 ................................................................. 909 025=Usr:232 bob lindski 10/10/89 13:54 Msg:4451 Call:24542 Lines:4 910 ????? ?% 911 COMRADE: IS your foregoing statement cleared by KGB? or at least 912 by the politburo? 913 HAMMER & SICKLE FOREVER?/% ! 026=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/10/89 16:26 Msg:4452 Call:24548 Lines:15 914 &*&*&*&*'s 915 Ok, So I'll try not to Yack to much about filling a disk. 916 917 The Wanderer sat contentedly at the small table. Contemplating 918 style and good story writting. He dreamed of a world where his writting 919 could keep people interested. "Not bloody likely." He thought. 920 921 Somthing carved in the table caught his eye. "SA BD". 922 There was probably a story there somewhere he thought. Standing he walked 923 over to the bar and ordered lunch. Returning to the table he began again 924 to scribble. Just another hobbiest filling paper. 925 926 An Astral Dreamer 927 &*&*&*&*'s 928 027=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/10/89 20:54 Msg:4453 Call:24559 Lines:21 929 *_*$_)!@($_)!@($_)($~!_$)(~_+)$#~+|!$)!+$()+%*@)_#*@)_#%(@_)!$!+_@)$!+_@$!+_$(! 930 Zeph: Alas, the NET never made it to the Inn, though the possibilities of such 931 a convergence were discussed more than once. Writing is a cyclic thing, and 932 the NET offered a change of pace from the fantasy-science fiction genre that 933 surrounded the Inn of old. I very much doubt any NET agents will show up in 934 the new place, or even try to pronounce it! 935 936 voyeur: We aren't really looking to spread bad vibes, just make commentary on 937 something that has affected all of us. I am sure you know how you have fit 938 in to all of this, and I hope I didn't stir any anger while discussing these 939 times and those. 940 941 adherent: At least someone saw my mis-spelled fruit as more than a stoopid 942 type. Thank you for your words, and your understanding of what I am trying 943 t say. Last Thursday is a case in point: I can't speak for Milch, but I was 944 not taking in a movie or downing another B-52 (the drink, not the bomber), 945 I was at home keeping promises to others, homework, schoolwork, workwork, 946 whateverwork, it all runs together after awhile... Try as I might, I will 947 try to make the next meeting on the 2nd of November. 948 949 %@*%_)#@*%_)@#*%_@)#*%@#__@)# L'homme sans Parity %*@)_#%*)_@_@)%(_)@%()_@#%*@% 028=Usr:287 Ralph Steadman 10/10/89 21:12 Msg:4454 Call:24561 Lines:7 950 696969696969 if it's so safe, why postpone it? 951 NASA has postponed the launch of the Galileo-carrying shuttle 952 due to problems with one of the engines. I guess some risks ARE too large 953 even for them. 954 955 696969696969696969 956 029=Usr:368 Nemesis Warlock 10/10/89 21:25 Msg:4455 Call:24562 Lines:12 957 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 959 960 961 L'Homme: The proper way to pronounce Pyrrix A'aaal? Hmmm, it is rather tricky. 962 For someone living in the Networks, the twisted maze of alleyways in the 963 northern part of the Central City, it is aa garbled series of clicks. For 964 the nobility, it becomes Pie Rix Ah Hall. For a commoner, it varies with the 965 particular section of the culture from which they originate. For the sake of 966 the visitor, however, we may use the name as it is registered by the Triant 967 Society... Pih Rix All. 968 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==== 030=Usr:333 Bartender Slug 10/10/89 23:56 Msg:4456 Call:24566 Lines:5 969 970 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 971 Slug has returned after a large Backwater vacation! Anyone miss me? 972 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Slug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 973 031=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/11/89 21:12 Msg:4457 Call:24588 Lines:12 974 &*&*&*&*'s 975 Good to see you back Slug. 976 977 So much for my need for a 68000. My Floopy drive died. One of the heads 978 disintigrated. Very depresing. Looks like my Amiga will be in the drawere 979 untill I can buy another drive. And to add insult t injury, I cant get my 980 PC too boot. Gives me massive errors and then comes up in basic. Computers 981 really shouldn't be moved I guess. 982 983 An Astral Dreamer 984 &*&*&*&*'s 985 032=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/11/89 23:10 Msg:4458 Call:24590 Lines:5 986 Obviously you haven't been making sacrifices to the proper hardware gods. 987 Everyone knows that if you don't pay proper homage, the angry gods will 988 wreck havoc on things like RAM cards and hard disks... 989 990 Better sacrifice quick, before your amiga turns into a pile of ashes! 033=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/11/89 23:54 Msg:4459 Call:24593 Lines:9 991 ********************************************************************* 992 Well, I see that today's Wall Street Journal once again snubbed 993 the Soviet report of the UFO sighting. I guess I'll have to read the 994 National Enquirer if I want to hear the "real" news! 995 Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be a bit more irresponsible 996 reporting recently? Is the news really that slow that they have to 997 make it up by pumping up some weak second rate story to become a 998 headline? Better than "1000 children killed by madman" I suppose. 999 *********************** CISTOP MIKEY ************************************