1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 ************************ INSTALLED: 18 FEB 87 *************************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 no restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain thepright to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 to leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 The line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************************* 19 20 Persons of imbecilic mentality divigate in parameters which cheurbic 21 entities approach with trepidation. 22 23 ******************************************************************** 24 25 I can't believe it, it did get worse. Bleah! There was only about 26 15 minutes of story line that was of any value on Amerika last night 27 the rest should have been left laying on the cutting room floor. 28 I suspect that this will be the last of this sort of miniseries 29 that will be shown due to very poor ratings. If there hadn't been 30 so much hoopla built up about it beforehand it would have been an 31 utter flop. This one is going to hurt ABC a lot I suspect. 32 (I'm also a bit irritated with the artificial controversy that 33 ABC used to generate the needed free advertising and argumenting 34 about the merits of the thing to build public desire to see the 35 thing just to find out what it was all about. They *knew* they 36 had to do that or it would have been a complete disastor.) 37 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ******************************* 38 =============================================================================== 39 I have to claim "ignorance" with regard to AMERIKA. I have steadfastly refused to watch or have anything to do with it. 40 Sounding like th e "Old man of the Hills" is one of the things I seem to do best, 41 so here goes. Some of you may remember the war years of the 40's, bu t I 42 suspect few of you remember that, while we were involved in a foul and bloody 43 44 totally employed. (Sorry about the typos.) When the end of txe war came along 45 our leaders were faced with *MASSIVE* unemployment problems. Fortunately, we 46 had Stalin to use as a boogy-man, a role he fit into with exhuberance. So we 47 kept on building weapons and fomenting the need for them. AConsidering the 48 hislook back on there is little reason to doubt that they would react as they have 49 to a build-up of arms by a potential enemy. The Russian people, and probably 50 most of txe Russian leaders, want more c(I think I'll just cut that finger off!) goods rather than guns, but txey can't 51 take a chance on us. I can't blame them either. After all, a country that 52 sells weapons to Iran and information to Iraq, both faulty, can hardly be 53 trustworthy. 54 RE 43 55 DE 43 56 LN 43 57 RE 43 58 war, we were 59 re 43 60 61 T'is truly asorrowful when I attempt to sound intelligent but foul it up with 62 typographical errors! Sorry> 63 64 65 RADIO FREE NEW YORK IS CONDUCTING A TEST OF THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM 66 Pasha wrapped the coat around his shoulders and stuck his arms into the 67 sleeves. He straightened the weighty jacket, and took a single last drink from 68 his glass. Watching a slim Canadian wipe the frost from his nostrils, he set 69 the drink down and put his left hand in the inner pocket of the coat. The 70 neutral feeling of his steel revolver distracted him long enough for the 71 addict to nearly leave the night club. Pasha raced after him as fast as 72 angling around the chairs and tables in the place would let him. 73 As soon as Pasha left the front door, the night wind found him and 74 pressed him inside. Dauntless, he ran down the sidewalk a way, with his hand 75 drawn into his coat, and tried to spot the addict again. No luck at all. He 76 wiped his eyes, and started down the street to his car. 77 A page from a newspaper was flying down the street. Steaming air rose 78 from ducts of which open up from the street, piped out of corporate high rises 79 lining the streets. A spark lit the opening of an alley down the street a bit 80 as a car drove past above the legal speed. 81 Pasha put his hands in his pockets again after rubbing them together. 82 It was cold and darkening outside. Wind blowing down the streets from the 83 riverfront dispelled any illusion of warmth at all. He hurried and his pace 84 grew to the point that he could hear his own footsteps. His car down this 85 street and over a pair of blocks. He planned to cross the span as soon as 86 possible. 87 As he passed the alley that the spark had lit for a second, he heard a 88 quiet sound. Not immediately sure of it, he turned and looked down the alley 89 in a silent pivot. His ear hurt then for a strange reason. Imagining a shot 90 might have caused the wound, he dodged in a split second into the alley and 91 behind a dumpster. 92 One hand on his ear and another grasping the revolver, he heard two 93 ricochets. Letting his hand down from the side of his head, and looking for 94 any blood, his newly freed hand tripped the safety on the gun. 95 A white shirt and black skirt came scrambling out from down the alley. 96 Silenced shots probed the alley, missing their mark. Wearing only bare feet, 97 she slipped and fell to the ground right in front of the dumpster. Reacting 98 with a fight instinct taught him in the National Police Force, Pasha leaned 99 around the dumpster enough to spot the car and the open door. He then fired 100 four times and pulled the girl to her feet by the arm. 101 She was not weak. Her arms were soft underneath the white cloth and 102 the fresh oil stains, but the two of them dashed off into a street and another 103 part of the town. It was a sprint for the protection of their own lives. Every 104 ounce of their panic was drained in the eight block run. 105 It occured to Pasha he had made his walk about a mile more difficult 106 in the run, when she managed to ask him his name. Her panting was soothed by 107 the passing seconds and soon she asked again, in a firmer tone. A deep and 108 accent in English that fit her cropped black hair and dark anglo skin. He did 109 not answer for several pantings, and then said his first name. 110 "My name," She formulated her words with the deliberation of a 111 diplomatic translater or a foreign student of English. "Is Natasha. I was 112 abducted by those men from the aeroport," Using a foreign name like Natasha 113 and the obsolete word for an airport made Pasha sure that she was not an 114 American at all. From the ruins of Europe, a war refugee? 115 "Why," His panting was slowly down and sounding more like sighs. "Why, 116 did they take you? Did they," How to ask her if she was being raped was a bit 117 more than Pasha wanted to try. She would notice his clenched eyebrows and that 118 would inform her he was having a tough time phrasing it. Aside from that, he 119 was out of breath. 120 "No. I am a courier, I presume they wanted my package. I got out of 121 the car and ran into the alley. Hiding did not work and they were shooting at 122 the trash when you turned into the alley." She noticed he was leaning against 123 a wall and his hands were hanging limply at his side. She also noticed his gun. 124 "Please, do not worry about the gun. I am an officer of the National 125 Police Force. It is a part of the job. Let me put it away." He slipped it into 126 an inner pocket of his overcoat. His hand out of the pocket, he checked his 127 watch and asked if she was alright. 128 "I am, but not the dress," He started to notice her clothes, and 129 perfume. Essence of flowers, he guessed, not knowing which one. Hiding in the 130 garbage had soiled the white shirt and stained her skirt, but she looked 131 alright anyway. Fashion was with the unkempt look that Winter. 132 Together, they went into a diner and ordered coffee. 133 IN THE EVENT OF A REAL EMERGENCY WE WOULD ALL BE DEAD NOW 134 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PaPa Smurf 135 From the graveyard the blue person raises up and looks once again upon 136 the soil that he once walked upon. Looking upon the gloomy scene, he 137 only winced and murmured one of his standby comments before sinking 138 once again to the cold ground... 139 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PaPa Smurf 140 141 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 142 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 143 144 Bakin! Never thought that face would show here again... Ah well... 145 Would like to wish Prometheus Hawthorne Jones a very happy 17th b.day. 146 May you fry as hard as I would like to... And say 'hi' to Lady S.... 147 148 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * * 149 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * * 150 151 ARRRGGHHH! That "UNSS" commander would be busted back to private *so* fast. I 152 mean really, now. Aside from wasting fuel and exposing those valuable copters 153 (and pilots) to the risk of damage from the exiles (even if it is a slight risk). 154 He killed *some* of them and destroyed their homes. Then he turns around 155 and leaves?!?! DUMB! That is the *best* way of *creating* guerillas. Those 156 people don't have anything left to lose. 157 I begin to agree with the people who said that Amerika's producers 158 should have had some consultants. 159 After last night I refuse to consider it anything but a fantasy. 160 Unlike many, I don't consider it to be a right-wing paranoid fantasy. Aside 161 from the fact of the takeover, *everything* is incredibly optimistic. We 162 would not be as free as is shown. They would not be as stupid as is shown. 163 Neither militarily, nor politically. 164 The exiles would be somewhere like dthe Dakotas, and the original 165 population would have been moved out. The 'border guards' would not let 166 people go. And as for that demonstration at the end of the parade... Care 167 to ask any Solidarity members about what would happen? Those troops that 168 had been in the parade would have just turned around and collected the old 169 veterans and the exiles. (This is assuming they wanted to be lenient, ie 170 MAJOR prison terms or Gulags. More likely, they'd just shoot) 171 ____02/18/87__________Leonard_JD 2446845.6394_________19:20:50_PST_________ 172 ps when that exile pulled out the gun (rifle? shotgun?) he would have been 173 shot. Period. They would have done this *in spite* of the fact that he 174 couldn't hurt the tank. 175 ___________________________________________________________________________ 176 dhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdh 177 -.-./--.- .-/.-../.-.. ..../.-/--/... -../. -../.-/--/... 178 dhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdhdh 179 sp: -../.-/--/... ---> -../.-/...-/. 180 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 181 fingers; da meat is set. chek usual 182 place for da detales. if i'm late its 183 cuz dey wouldnt let me outta da murder 184 trial. reports of my demize are grately 185 exagerrated.... lefty 186 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 187 188 WELP, here I am again boys gettin' 189 rea- 190 Alright, alright, alright, alright... 191 I hear ya! AND LADIES...as I was say- 192 ing getting ready to sing the blues! 193 Hey...! Oh yeah, well you're all a 194 bunch of rude drunks!! 195 (to the bartender) *sigh* First my 196 girlfriend leaves me for "the other 197 woman". Now I'm running a fever of 198 102. And just a few minates ago I find 199 out that they turned my ofavorite bar 200 N.S.I.C./ The Q into a restrant. 201 Well at least I can still come here. 202 Why don't you give me 20 dubble 203 a plate of Co-Tynol...'n' hold the 204 P.C.B.'s 205 206 :( 207 R 208 The (deatthly ill) Mad Lister 209 (take a look at the other drive Lefty) 210 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchlurk 211 212 fingers: well, I did see someone shoot the brains out of someone who looked a 213 whole lot like you, but I did'nt have my contacts in, and I could have 214 been mistaken... ( by the way, good ol'theus' birthday isn't 'till 215 friday, and as for good ol'S...., well... ). - james 216 217 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) 218 219 220 To all of you who hookup here this time... 221 From the famous Unknown Dictionary of 222 ANONYMOUSITY! 223 224 The definition for.....Is..... 225 DELETE 226 list 227 228 ? 229 HELP 230 TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN............. 231 I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE THAT THIS SO CALLED 'BACKWASH SYSTEM' IS EXACTLY THAT! 232 IT IS NOT EASY TO USE, AND, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, THE CONTENTS THEREIN COULD BE 233 MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN IT IS. 234 It's really too bad that nobody can talk directly to one another or 235 anything like that. 236 237 238 ________________________________________________________________________________ 239 FURTHERMORE.......I THINK THATTHE WHOLETHINGISACROCKOFROMANSPAGHETTI!!! 240 241 242 IFYOUHAVEANYCOMMENTSTOTELLME IMAYRESPONDHERE>ANDIMAYNOT>BYE>>>>>>>> 244 YOURSTRULY>>>>>GREYGHOST!!! 245 246 247 248 ________________________________________________________________________________ 249 250 No matter how bad everyone thinks Amerika is, I believe that it is working 251 for ABC. If you define working as generating controversey, which 252 generates interest, which generates revenues, which means success for 253 ABC. Again, it can't be any worse than Red Dawn was (What an awful film)! 254 I haven't seen Amerika but I did follow the "controversy that it 255 generated. I don't think that ABC is responsible for creating false 256 controversey to provoke interest, which is not to say that they are against 257 controversy as it does help their endeavors with respect to this show. If 258 the controversy must be attributed to anybody, I would say that the print 259 media, magazine and newspapers, are responsible for generating and 260 propogating the controversy. 261 262 Archangel 263 ____02/19/87__________________JD 2446846.7983_________23:09:36_PST_________ 264 No Kidding. How are you supposed to exit Enter Mode? Any suggestions?...GG 265 You type Control-C like everyone else does. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN 266 267 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 268 269 As an American, I have met several Americans and can say with some confidence 270 Sorry about that mess I made. 271 Anyway, as I was saying, I think Amerika STINKS. My idea of America is the 272 spirit of the people. And it is that spirit that would never allow forieng 273 occupation of American soil by any power, Russian or ?????. 274 If Americans get anything out of this sad series it should be to realize that 275 because of our freedom that this fantasy could never come to pass. 276 *(%_)*%_@))!@%*)!@#_)@%*(+_@~%*(@~_%*$+_#^*#$+&*#$^~@$+_^*#$+)&*(#$+_^*~@#$+_^*~+_#^* 277 As a computer-junkie, I like to have some noise in the background while I work. So 278 far, Amerika is providing a good amount of that noise. I have not missed a minute of 279 it yet, nor do I intend to. I want to see this thing through. The announcer set it up 280 perfectly last night. "Nothing can prepare you for the last four hours of... Amerika. 281 " Well, they gave away the dome getting blown apart. And I just know that Devin wasn' 282 t killed in that attack on the Ruskies. One thing about that attack. I now know where 283 some of those 2+ million soldiers went, along with a few sidearms. It reminded me a 284 bit of Red Dawn, with the anti-tank weapon and all. But what *exactly* is in store 285 for Amerika? Do we throw the Ruskies out? Would they really Nuke Seattle? (Bye bye 286 Seahawks.) Just how stupid are these TV Russians? I am looking forward to the last 287 four exciting hours of the series. Perhaps when it is all over, we can be a bit more 288 contemplative, and realize just what the intentions of this miniseries were? Did I 289 hear the word 'entertainment?' 290 %*)_@#_%@)*^)&@%*)_*&)*%&)_)&*#)&*@)& L'homme sans Parity *%*@_)%*_*!@_%*!@+%(!+(+)!$ 291 PS to Leonard: Your figures regarding food and supplies are very misleading. Troops 292 today are better trained, better fed, in better shape, and better equipped than their 293 counterparts from previous wars. This 1-2 week supply figure is meaningless in war 294 time. Ask some Battle of the Bulge veterans? Or Ka-song (spelling?) survivors. An 295 army travels on its stomach but fights with its blood and guts. To quote the movie 296 Patton - "Ya, his guts and our blood." 297 *^*#$_)^*)_*^#@^@)_^*@_^#^$)*@_^@$*@$_^@$_^*@_^*@$_^@_)^@_^*_^@$_^@_^@)_*@)_)_$&^*#$# 298 299 HEADLINE OF THE WEEK - Investors discover condoms. The Oregonian, Tuesday, 300 Febuary 17th, 1987. 301 302 WHO CARES? 303 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)*) 304 ================================================================================ 305 Well, if they'd discovered them a few years sooner maybe there wouldn't be so 306 many lawyers now! 307 You misunderstand !! 308 Condoms are lawyer rainhats. 309 ___________________________________________________________________________ 310 L'homme: Fine. You use blood and guts. What are you going to do when the 311 (LESS THAN 1 WEEK!) supply of ammo runs out? Please note that many 312 estimates say we only have enough ammo for a couple *days* of heavy fight- 313 ing. (It doesn't count if you can't get it to the troops!). 314 Remember Patton.. you want to make the *other* "poor dumb bastard" die 315 for *his* country. This is difficult if you are using improvised weapons 316 and he isn't! 317 Of course I'm talking about the Armed Forces. As I've mentioned in many 318 a previous posting, I'd *hate* to be an occupying army in the US. All 319 those unregistered guns, weapons collectors, survivalists, ex-radicals 320 that still have copies of the Anarchist's Cookbook and those wonderful 321 Chinese guerilla instruction manuals (I've got a couple of them, they are 322 very interesting!)..... we'd make the VC look like amateurs! 323 Then there's the matter of communications... we've got enough unregistered 324 comm gear in this country to make it impossible to cut us off from each 325 other. True, the CB gear can be jammed, but even it will operate "out 326 of band". What all the old (and new) surplus and ham gear can do is 327 incredible. They can't jam all the frequencies, and they can't even 328 intercept some of the army surplus gear (hops between around 40 to ??? 329 frequencies in a 'random' pattern. spends about .1 sec on any freq.) 330 Short of using *area* nuclear bombardment they couldn't supress 331 us. 332 ____02/20/87__________Leonard_JD 2446847.7408_________21:47:01_PST_________ 333 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 334 C:\procomm>arc x sysop 335 Extracting human: SYSOP 336 WARNING: Human SYSOP fails CRC check 337 338 Fri 2-20-1987 23:31:16.20 339 C:\procomm>rem kaos 340 341 ++++++++ lurk tag ++++++++++++++ 21 Feb 87 @ 1:15am +++++++++++++++++ Milch 342 C:\procomm: hey, isn't kaos the radio station up at ol'evergreen state? - james 343 344 ********************************************************************* 345 Leonard: I tend to question the figure you state of only a few days worth 346 of ammo. Perhaps that figure might fit what is in normal distribution channels 347 because that is all the ammo the military needs for normal operations. 348 My experience while in the service was different. There are a number of 349 distribution networks through which supplies flow. There are also large 350 depos of arms and ammo spread through out the world. Also there are a 351 number of manufactures who have there own stocks. And don't forget that 352 America is not the only country that makes and supplies arms. Where needed 353 we have and do buy from other countries. I would agree with you that there 354 is less supplies than there should be if we were to go fight an intense 355 war, but the amount of use is dependant upon far too many factors to 356 say how long the ammo would last. The make up of war machinery has changed 357 significantly from what it was say in WWI where the foot soldier and arms 358 were the major makeup of the fighting force. In later years that has 359 begun to change. War like other things grows and advances making use of 360 the latest in technology. The pike gave way to the long bow which gave 361 way to the rifle. With each step we rely less and less on cannon fodder 362 to do the actual fighting. More and more it becomes isolated as we push 363 buttons from afar and destroy tens and hundreds, even thousands of lives. 364 (This is conventional weapons we're talking here, not nuclear). 365 War itself doesn't really change, it still is the result of one faction 366 striving to gain power over another. The are a number of reasons stated 367 for war, Everyone likes to have their own opinion why they exist. Religion, 368 money, idealogical beliefs (which is really the same as religion), 369 insanity (war is insane, so that is a mute point), bigotry (see idealogical 370 beliefs/religous beliefs), control of land, money, and or people, and greed. 371 All of these are valid and truthful reasons for war, and they all boil 372 down to one thing, the desire to control people and things, to have the 373 satisfaction of knowing that you've converted/persuaded/forced others 374 to come around to your belief structure, or failing that bombed them out 375 of existance so that you don't have to live with them continuously 376 being there and reminding you that there is an alternate form of existance. 377 And what that all means is power. Power to control people and things. 378 Power to force or convince people to your way of thinking. 379 Power in itself is neither right nor wrong, it simply exists. It is a 380 part of life. We all use it to varying levels everyday. Some people 381 go to greater lengths than other to exercise that power. When you state 382 an opinion and argue it your are exercising that power. (Yes, that includes 383 even this writting, I am expressing my views in an attempt to convice 384 and/or reafirm in others who read this that my beliefs are correct.) 385 In that way by performing those activities and functions we struggle each 386 day to gain our position in the world. Loseing one battle, winning another. 387 We fight with many weapons, words both written and verbal, emotions, 388 directed and misdirected activities. Some people have a more expansive 389 desire for power than others. Some are happy with control of their own 390 immediate lives, while others have a need to expand their world to cover 391 a larger portion of existance. This is what drives a leader to become 392 what he is, a desire to control a larger portion of his universe, thus 393 insuring that his own immediate world will more closely conform to what 394 he desires. This is both good and bad. It is good, because it is what 395 drives us forward as a species. It is bad because it causes so much 396 pain and suffering. Athletes have a saying; no pain, no gain. 397 Our stuggles everyday of gaining control over our immidiate world, our 398 lives, our existance is what allows us to move foward. When we give up 399 that struggle we stagnate and lose our individualality and eventually 400 we die as an individual. That is why some people indulge in directing 401 change simply for the sake of change, it is a way to keep fwom stagnating. 402 If you can't control your immediate world to be the way you want it, 403 change it. At least you are moving and exercising your powers, and for 404 some that is all that matters, a display of the power, that they can 405 change things. The change itself is unimportant, just that a change 406 occured, that is the expression of power. 407 Gee, now I've forgotten what started this long winded entry.... 408 Oh yeah, weapons and supplies. If there was constant and continuous 409 fighting going on 24hr's a day by all troops with no letup for even 410 a second, perhaps there would be only a weeks worth of supplies out 411 there, but that isn't at all realistic. Only a small percentage of 412 troops actually fight in a war, and war is most definately not fought 413 on a continuous 24hr basis day in and day out without let up for even 414 a second. Like everything else it comes in spurts with lots of inbetween 415 time of little activity other then fearing when the next fight will 416 start. As a soldier you spend most of your time trying to figure out 417 how to stay alive, and that does not include shooting a lot. Fire draws 418 fire, and that is not condusive to staying alive since the more bullets 419 that are flying around means a greater chance that one of them will 420 find you. All that said, I would say there is more like one to two 421 months of supplies available, and that is enough to give time for new 422 supplies to be made and distributed. As for food. that is unimportant. 423 As long as there is a couple of days of food around there is no problem 424 Armies have never really have problems in that regard. When they need 425 food they just take it. In war time there is *never* proper supply lines 426 for food, but there is always food availale to be taken from the 427 civilians which is how they survive. Weapons and arms usually tends to 428 be less of a problem. The military tends to be a bit better in supplying 429 those, but then you go through a lot more food per weight than 430 munitions suppies on a overall average. 431 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************************** 432 P.S. I'm not counting bombs carried by war planes and such. That's a whole 433 different area. We're talking cannon fodder types here... **** CM ******* 434 ____02/21/87__________________JD 2446848.4416_________14:35:59_PST_________ 435 Sara used to be my best friend. I don't remember how we became friends, 436 bably because one of our preschool teachers parked us with each other. I was a 437 very obnoxious child, always sure that I knew and that I has to explain it to ev 438 eryone else. Sara wasn't like that - she preferred to stay by herself and meditat 439 te on everything she'd discovered. Her home life was fascinating to me. I'd ne 440 verseen a seen a family without two parents or experienced catastrophic, static 441 clutter. 442 Like I said, I don't remember that much about preschool or kindergarten 443 with Sara. She was part of the background. I was too enamored of Pauline, 444 anyway. She had go-go boots. 445 446 447 EXIT 448 Here Here re: Amerika. 449 Capt. Nemo. 450 %\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\ 451 Cistop Mikey: You writing above was indeed a long winded entry! Your sentence 452 that acknowledged that was quite a surprise to read. Do you think you get a 453 wider point detailed, or just have troulbes staying on a point, or have you 454 never thought about it? What the hay? 455 %\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\ Quaternion %\%\%\%\%\%\%\%\ 456 457 ****************************************************************************** 458 I suppose you could look on it either way. I like to travel down side paths 459 to explore what makes the mainstream thought what it is. In that aspect it 460 gives me a greater understanding of how I got to where I am. It also helps 461 me to understand where I am headed. I'm not one to stick my head in the sand 462 and vegitate. But this habit of exploring and understanding the side thoughts 463 and tributaries can often look like I am wandering without purpose. I sometimes 464 wonder myself. Is this line of thought really needed? Have I gone far enough 465 down this track? Have I gone too far? I have to ask myself these questions 466 to find out myself. And many times I see that I have and switch gears to get 467 back onto the mainstream of thought. So is it just that I have troubles 468 staying to the point, or is it that I desire to display a wider point of view? 469 Or both, or neither? You decide. 470 ******************************** CISTOP MIKEY ******************************** 471 .-.-.-.24 days, 19.5 hours to go.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 472 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 473 LEFTY: DA DAME IS GONNA BE ON STARK 474 STREET FROM 3:30 UNTIL JUST AFTER 5. 475 YOUSE KNOWS DA PLACE. FINGERS 476 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 477 +++++++++++ E: A countdown? Now, really. +++++ One of Milch's quiet moments. 478 ____02/23/87__________________JD 2446850.7240_________21:22:36_PST_________ 479 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 480 ____02/24/87__________________JD 2446851.6016_________18:26:39_PST_________ 481 482 <<:****************************passin' through***************:>> 483 484 :::::=====:::::===== 485 Zephlyrk. 486 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====::::: 487 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 488 Two days later, I had discovered enough about All to leave. Or so I thought. 489 "My problem, Yob, is that I must have more time than the one moment of 490 sunset in which to cast the dweomer. At least a full second so I may do it 491 properly." 492 Yob smoked upon his pipe, thinking about it. "You cannot go faster?" 493 I sighed. "No, it is too risky if I rush it. I am a master at transport 494 magicks, but I will not attempt less than a second. I would become....lost." 495 "Are not you lost now?" 496 "I am lost, but not *gone*. Let me rephrase. I might cease to be." 497 "Become not?" Yob thought about it. "Better not to risk, as you say. 498 But I think needs you a stretching of sunset?" 499 "Exactly! Just a little more time..." I looked at my primitive preparations, 500 all done without benefit of magic or high technology. If not for my Zelgar's 501 wand, I would have been bereft of any magical tools whatsoever. The Travelbook 502 did me no good; it took too long to use. Just a second... 503 My attention snapped back to Yob as he spoke. 504 "My father's-brother's son who lives in the next valley has said to me that 505 sunset comes there a little later to their village; perhaps you could quickly 506 go there and complete your... spell?" 507 Later? Oh! Of course! 508 "Yob, do you know how fast the terminator travels across All?" 509 "Terminator? Not sure of word. Sounds like ending." 510 "In a way. Er, how far away is your cousin's village, and how much later 511 is sunset there?" 512 "It is seven lans away, I think. I'm not sure about time." 513 I was busily working out the rate... 514 "Yob? Can you and your village do me one last favor, so I may return home?" 515 "Yes, Erhuman. So is our way. You are part of the village." 516 "Can you help me build a catapult?" 517 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++ 25 Feb 87 at 12:10am +++++++ 518 1>The man walked about a wooden floor, drawing lines upon it with a piece ofbakc 519 ........................................................................... 520 Milchar my friend... thou art a brave man. Mayhap a bit foolish, but 521 nevertheless brave. To attempt a spell while hurtling thru the air! 522 Madness. Or perhaps audacity? 523 ...........................the apprentice.................................. 524 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)() 525 526 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 527 528 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 529 A man paced back and forth across a wooden floor, marking 530 straight black lines upon it with a piece of chalk. A 531 symbol began to take shape and very soon was complete. 532 The man walked around it, checking the lines to make sure 533 that they were solid and true. When he was satisfied, 534 he started to chant little known words in an ancient tongue. 535 The floor encompassed by the symbol began to waver and fade, 536 and when the chant was done it had disappeared. Where the 537 floor had been, there was now a patch of green grass. The 538 man walked to the center of the grass and brought his hands 539 together with a loud clap. 540 The room in which the man had been standing vanished, 541 replaced with a large grassy field. Running through this 542 field was a small dirt path. The man stepped onto this path 543 and followed it to its end. He now stood beside a wooden 544 building with a tree growing beside it. He went to the door 545 and stood for a moment, inhaling the fresh, clean air that 546 prevailed here. He opened the door, entered the Inn, and 547 closed the door softly behind him. After requesting a large 548 flagon of ice water, the Philosopher sat down at a small 549 table near the back of the room. When his water arrived, he 550 sat drinking and trying to think of what it was that he 551 should remember but could not... 552 553 The Philosopher 554 February 26th, 1987 555 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 556 557 (* IIIIIIIVVVIVIIVIIIIX (*) IXVIIIVIIVIVIVIIIIII *) 558 559 The old crone stirred in the shadows by the hearth, the 560 draft from the opened door briefly cold on her back. 561 She glanced quickly at the man crossing the room, her 562 green eyes visible for only a moment. 563 "So, he's finally back." Her thoughts were as 564 tired and weary as the body of her persona. Of the 565 nine available to her, this was one of the hardest to 566 sustain for very long. And it had been a long time--at 567 least three months. 568 Her eyes, hidden by scraggly locks of greasy, 569 white hair, watched him scan the room. She knew that 570 even if he saw her in the dark corner, there would be 571 no recognition. She was much changed from the woman he 572 had met when he was at the Inn last. Only her eyes and 573 the color of her hair stayed the same, they never 574 altered in any of her forms; just as her personality 575 dominated and blended with the natural instincts of her 576 beast shapes. 577 The long wait was finally over. So why didn't she 578 feel relieved? By morning she should be able to leave 579 this body and take on one that wasn't so full of pain. 580 Where was the sense of joy and deliverance she should 581 be feeling? What was wrong? 582 All she needed was enough water to cover her 583 completely for the physical transformation. During the 584 days of her wait she had found an ideal pond to serve 585 that purpose. 586 But first she needed to reassure herself that he 587 remembered his drunken promise--the one he had made to 588 the beautiful dancer on his last visit to the Inn. The 589 promise that would save her life. 590 She got up slowly from her spot by the hearth and 591 approached his table. 592 "Tell your future from your past, Sire?" she 593 croaked. The seated man looked up, startled out of his 594 musings by her voice. 595 596 Green Eyes (02/26/87) 597 598 (* IIIIIIIVVVIVIIVIIIIX (*) IXVIIIVIIVIVIVIIIIII *) 599 600 _______________________________________________________________________________ 601 *(^)_#$^*$*)$*^)@#^)!*^_)#$&*_)#&*)#*&_%&()$_%%(*_%*)_*&$_)&*$)&+)#%&*$)$_&)*&_& 602 Mikey: I enjoyed your words. I think of many of the discussions on BW as similar to those we have in person at PCS, 603 etc. One subject leads to another, which leads to another, and so on. We each want to take the paths as we find 604 them, and often, we end up far from where we started? Is that bad? I don't think so. As long as all involved know 605 the path and can follow it, the journey is enjoyable. We start talking about a TV show. That leads us to talking about 606 the show's details. That leads on to troop logistics and ammunition supplies. That leads back to war, which follows 607 through to the history of war, and the causes of war. I followed what you were saying, and it was an interesting path 608 to follow. There are times and places for single subject, direct conversations. I would not enjoy the subject matter 609 turning to the use of stop-action photography in MTV video's if we started out trying to get a computer program 610 defined. But when we are all free-lancing our discussion with anything related that comes to mind, the more far-out, 611 the better. I have come away from PC&S/PCS/BW/etc pizza parties dazzled by the array of conversations that took 612 place. Talking with friends, good old BS sessions that go into the night, Trivia contests, when I was _____ stories; 613 good old meat and potatoes get-together and gab times will always be dear to me. I learn from *all* of you, and I hope 614 you learn from me. We share our ideas, we listen to each other, I don't remember a time when anyone has ever expressed a 615 stepped-on attitude. Each person here has a unique history to draw from. That history is like a magic well. No matter 616 how much you take from it, the level never goes down. But in giving, receiving comes naturally, and the well fills. 617 I too have rambled a bit. To change the Almon Brother's song a bit - 'Lord I was born a ramblin' man.' But I enjoy 618 it, and I look forward to our next get-together, when we can all share the latest and greatest what's-happinings :-) 619 in our lives. 620 *%)_*%@_#)@_#%^*)_@*^@)^*@#_%&@#_%&*@ L'homme sans Parity *%^)%^*@)^*)_*~#!)~$*%)@#_)%*_)*#!_$^@^@^*$)$#^*^^$%^$ 621 622 Imagination is more important than knowledge 623 Albert Einstein 624 A Dog is a Dog except when he is facing you. 625 Then he is Mr. Dog. 626 Haitian Farmer 627 If all the cars in the United States were placed 628 end to end, it would probably be Labor Day weekend. 629 Doug Larson TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 629