1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 ************************ INSTALLED: 11 FEB 87 ************************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 no restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain thepright to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 to leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 The line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************************* 19 20 Surveillance should precede saltation. 21 ******************************************** 22 23 &#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#& 24 DR> DEMENTO'S 10 WORSY SONG TITES OF 25 ALLLLLLLL TIME!! 26 &#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#&#& 27 1. I Scream, yYou Scream, We All Scream 28 For Ice Cream 29 2. They Needed a Songbird in Heaven, 30 So God Took Caruso Away 31 3. Plant A wWatermelon on My Grave, and 32 Let the Juice Soak Through 33 4. If the Man in the Moon Were a Coon 34 5. Where Did Robinson Crusoe Go with 35 Friday on Saterday Night 36 6. Come After Breakfast, Bring Your 37 Lunch, and Leave Before Suppertime 38 7. /How Could You Believe Me When I 39 Said I Love You When You Know I've 40 Been a liar All My Life 41 (You're going to LOVE this one!!) 42 8. I've Got Those Wake Up Seven Thirty, 43 Wash Your Ears They're Dirty, Eat Your 44 Eggs and Oatmeal Rush to School 45 Blues 46 (Aaaaaaaaaargh!) 47 9. Would you Rather Be a Colonel with 48 an Eagle on Your Sholder or a 49 Private wiht a Chicken on Your 50 Knee? 51 10. A Womam Is Only A Woman, BuUT a 52 Good Cigar Is a Smoke 53 54 May the Farce Be with YOouuuuuuuu! 55 56 57 Holy #%$&! You mean I...was....was on 58 Top! (YAAAAAAAAAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!) 59 The Mad Lister 60 L'homme: one minor problem... I need to be able to switch between (among?) 61 5 printers hooked up to *at least* three computers/terminals. I'd rather 62 not have to do my 'reconfigurations' by cable swapping. "Smart" switches 63 are probably out too, as I'm not going to trust them to be able to tell 64 their commands from the graphics data on the way to the printer. 65 Any suggestions? 66 By the way, I've 'found' my problem with formatting on the AT. All 67 I have to do is reduce the number of buffers in CONFIG.SYS to 37 and I can 68 format regular disks. At 32 buffers I *still* can't format HC disks (except 69 from a batch file run from a menu shell?!?!). 70 Any idea as to what is going on? 71 ____02/11/87__________Leonard_JD 2446838.7463_________21:54:40_PST_________ 72 hello i am a new user and don't know much. 73 please help!!!!!!! 74 lost 75 NAME:ANNIE DILKA 76 CITY/STATE:PORTLAND/OR. 77 HELLO I AM A NEW USER TO YOUR SYSTEM AND DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL 78 ANY HELP OR SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!!!! 79 ENTER 80 /=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/ 81 82 Umm...You wanted to speak to me, sir? 83 84 85 THAT'S RIGHT, GABRIEL. IT'S ABOUT LAST NIGHT. YOU WERE PRETENDING YOU WERE 86 ME AGAIN, WEREN'T YOU? 87 88 Well...(gulp)...yes sir. You see, Peter and I were hitting the nectar pretty 89 hard, and- 90 91 PETER TOLD ME ALL ABOUT IT. I HAD TO DISCIPLINE HIM FOR THE NUN THING. 92 93 Nun thing? 94 95 YEAH. HE WAS TEASING SOME NUNS AT THE GATE LAST NIGHT. TOLD THEM THEY 96 COULDN'T COME IN BECAUSE THEY'D DEVELOPED SOME BAD HABITS. 97 98 Ooh. 99 100 I THOUGHT SO TOO. I'LL NEVER FORGIVE MOSES FOR SCRATCHING OFF THE ELEVENTH 101 COMMANDMENT -- THE ONE FORBIDDING BAD PUNS. I SHOULD HAVE MADE IT NUMBER SIX 102 OR SOMETHING, THEN SOMEONE WOULD HAVE ASKED ME WHY THEY JUMPED FROM FIVE TO 103 SEVEN, AND I WOULD HAVE NOTICED THE PROBLEM SOONER. BUT I DIGRESS. WE WERE 104 TALKING ABOUT YOU. YOU'VE CREATED QUITE A PROBLEM FOR ME, GABE. 105 106 I didn't think it was all that serious, sir. 107 108 OH REALLY? WELL WHAT DO YOU WILL HAPPEN WHEN ORAL ROBERTS MOUTHS OFF THAT I'M 109 GOING TO KILL HIM? 110 111 Uhh... 112 113 NOW SOMEONE'S GOT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING- 114 115 Maybe he'll raise the money, and we won't have to worry about it! 116 117 NO WAY. NO ONE WILL GIVE HIM MONEY. I GAVE THE EARTHLINGS BRAINS A WHILE 118 BACK, REMEMBER? 119 120 I'm afraid I hadn't heard about that, sir. 121 122 YOU DON'T READ THE BULLETIN BOARD, DO YOU GABRIEL? 123 124 Well... 125 126 BY THE WAY. YOU KNOW THAT I EXIST EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES. HOW DID YOU THINK 127 YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH THIS? 128 129 Well ... uh ... I kinda thought that if I made myself ... look like you ... 130 then you'd see you were already there, and ... you ... wouldn't ... umm ... 131 bother checking up. (Pause) It all made more sense last night, the nectar and 132 all ... 133 134 UH-HUH. WELL WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE WE DO ABOUT THIS? I CAN'T KILL HIM, OR 135 EVERYONE WILL THINK HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT ALL THAT OTHER STUFF HE'S BEEN SAYING. 136 IF I LET HIM LIVE, SOME GOOD PEOPLE MIGHT DOUBT THAT I EXIST. 137 138 Maybe we could make him have a stroke or something. Paralyze him or put him 139 in a coma! 140 141 ARE YOU KIDDING? IF ROBERTS SO MUCH AS STUBS HIS TOE, HE'LL BE CANONIZED. 142 YOU KNOW HOW HISTORIANS EXAGGERATE. DON'T YOU REMEMBER THE LOCUST THING? 143 144 I think so. You sent a plague of locusts on Egypt so the Pharaoh would- 145 146 NO! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN. I PUT HALF A GRASSHOPPER IN THE PHARAOH'S 147 SANDWICH, HE FREAKED OUT, WORD GOT OUT, AND BY THE TIME SOMEONE WROTE IT DOWN, 148 IT WAS A FULL-BLOWN PLAGUE. SHEESH. 149 150 Sorry, sir. Hey! I got it ... we could make him go insane, and everyone will 151 think he was having a delusion! 152 153 DO YOU REALLY THINK ANYONE WOULD NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE? 154 155 We could prove it! We could make him take one of those Rorschach tests, with 156 all those pictures of naked women! 157 158 UMM ... GABRIEL, THE INK BLOTS ARE MEANINGLESS BLOBS THAT THE SUBJECT 159 INTERPRETS BASED ON HIS PERSONALITY AND INNERMOST THOUGHTS. 160 161 Oh ... oops. 162 163 WE'LL DISCUSS IT LATER. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO- 164 165 Actually, I never really thought much of human psychology, you know. 166 167 RIGHT. AS I WAS SAYING, I THINK WE SHOULD- 168 169 To tell you the truth, I never even SAW the pictures -- I just heard Peter 170 talking about them. Yeah, that's it! Peter was talking about them! 171 172 ARE YOU QUITE THROUGH, GABRIEL? 173 174 Yes sir. 175 176 GOOD. AS I WAS SAYING, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO- 177 178 Hey! Did it sound like I said "naked women"? I just realized it could have 179 sounded like that! Isn't that funny? What I really said was "snakes-a- 180 swimmin". You know, like those snakes that can ... swim ... in ... ... the ... 181 (an even longer pause) ... Is everything OK, sir? You look a little ... I 182 dunno, it's kind of hard to describe- 183 184 AAAAAAARRRRRRRGH!!! 185 186 I'm sorry, sir. Was I interrupting you? 187 188 - official transcripts as reported in: 189 190 "Heaven: The God Years" 191 192 193 NOTE: It was reported in subsequent sections of the publication cited 194 above that Oral Roberts failed to raise the required funds by the stated dead- 195 line. On that fateful day, Roberts did, in fact, stub his toe. Staunch 196 supporters of the television evangelist maintain that Jesus' message of 197 impending "death" was actually a symbolic warning of what they now call the 198 "Holy Stubbing." They acknowledge, however, that the realization of this fact 199 would have been much more impressive had it occurred prior to the blessed 200 event. Two thousand years later, Roberts was canonized. 201 202 203 /=/=/=/=/=/=/ 204 205 DISCLAIMER: As the author of the preceding passage, I must point out the 206 fictitious nature of the events described therein. Although it is entirely 207 possible that the Oral Roberts incident occurred as stated, it is only one 208 reasonable scenario. I realize that the shocking realism and depth of 209 character development could have caused some confusion on that point. I repeat 210 that I am privy to NO special information; devout christians are encouraged not 211 to convert to Buddhism based solely on the nature of the passage. In fact, 212 any resemblance the characters may bear to existing or mythical, natural or 213 supernatural beings is purely coincidental, and, of course, unintentional. 214 /=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/=/ 215 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 216 Sure. 217 jewish jerk junk :-( 218 219 PNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW 220 DEMOGRAPHICS - PACIFIC NORTHWEST is a survey group based in the Portland 221 Metropolitan Area. We are just starting out, and we are trying out new methods 222 of sampling public opinion. One of the new ways we would like to conduct 223 surveys is on public bulletin board systems. 224 If it is fine with you, the SYSTEM OPERATOR, we would like to post a 225 questionnaire here and call again three or four days later, in order to 226 collect the replies. 227 What do you think about this? 228 DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW 229 230 231 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 232 I think you'll be lucky to get any responses at all. Try something else. 233 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 234 &*%()*%_@#*%_)@*%_)@#*^+!#*^_#$*^_*)#^_)!^_%&*%(&+#&*_)%&*_)!#*&)_*&_)*&_#*_)*&!_&*_! 235 DPNW: Ignore Mr. o\=<([V2V])>=/o. Try your posting and see what happens. Backwater 236 caters to a diverse crowd, so I hope you have plenty of dampening on your results so 237 stray responses won't cause statistical anomalies. 238 Leonard: What's wrong with a mechanical switch? I have seen three-one boxes that work 239 quite nicely. 240 Mikey: Ditto on the floppy you delivered last PCS meeting. It was as blank as a new 241 born maxtor. 242 *%$#*%_)*%)&^)_&^)*^@_#*)_*%@#_@# L'homme sans Parity *%@_#*%#_@)%_)*!)_*%^@_&^_)!%*_ 243 Gofor it guys!!! 244 know I would use a polliing system suck as this, ~good luck.troy woody 245 James: I thought that BMS was an open forum that anyone could say just about 246 anything that they wanted ( even questions, or questionairs for that 247 matter ). 248 249 ___________________________________________________________________________ 250 L'homme: I've seen 3-to-1 switches too, but I need to link 3 to 5.... 251 Slightly more involved... 252 3 computers to 5 printers is 60 possible combinations.... how much do 253 25-pole 60-throw (25p60t) switches for? (and where would I post the chart?) 254 ____02/12/87__________Leonard_JD 2446839.6093_________18:37:26_PST_________ 255 L'HOMME/LEONARD: I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON THE DISK THING. OH WELL, 256 I'LL GET YOU NEW COPIES WHENEVER WE GET TOGETHER AGAIN. 257 TO ABOVE PERSON ASKING ABOUT THE SYSTEM: AS HAS BEEN STATED, IT IS OPEN 258 TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO USE IT AS LONG AS THEY STAY WITHIN THE GUIDELINES 259 INDICATRED IN THE OPENNING MESSAGE. 260 ************************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 261 Good Show! 262 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 263 It was several hours later before I was truly rational once more. 264 I blamed my dilemma on bad luck, positive entropy, and Friday the thirteenth; 265 most of those spent hours consisted of ranting about each of these in turn and 266 in groups. 267 Yob tried to understand how I felt, but I doubt if he came close. I felt 268 severely crippled. Magic was not possible here! 269 And yet there was no technology, either. 270 That got me to thinking. 271 The multiverse, I had found after several decades spent exploring a very small 272 piece of it, tended to follow a few simple rules. One of the most consistent 273 of these was the Science/Magic summation. 274 S + M = K. A universe where magic was common held low technology, and vice 275 versa. Oh, there were exceptions. Not many. 276 The world All appeared to be a world null. K factor of near zero. 277 It appeared magic was not possible. Science was also unknown. What was left? 278 What indeed? 279 The sun of All sank slowly in the sky, shedding tinted luminance upon me. 280 Long moments passed before the upper rim of its shining globe was the last 281 light peeping over the mountains of All. 282 Then was sunset. The earth seemed to shake just slightly, only for a moment- 283 The universe held its breath during that instant. As did I. 284 And suddenly I knew where All had hidden its magic. 285 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++ 13 Feb 1987 at 1:20am +++++++++ 286 287 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 288 My mind cannot stop traversing. Help! 289 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$kaos$$$$$$$$$ 290 LEONARD!!! 291 Use TWO of those techy switches back-to-back...One to select the computer, 292 then one to select the printer. 293 ==========================JIMSKY========================================= 294 Jimsky: Nice idea, but only one *minor* problem.... I tend to be using 295 several computers at the same time.... (who needs a multi-tasking OS when 296 you've got several machines?). 297 ____02/14/87__________Leonard_JD 2446841.6037_________18:29:25_PST_________ 298 299 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 300 % % 301 % Bryce Tomlinson's Quicksilver Bike % 302 % Salvage & Repair, Sales & Exchange % 303 % % 304 % 4 Sale: Huffy ST-500 BMX bike with % 305 % chrome frame, transparent % 306 % red Motomag Rims, spread % 307 % clamp double gooseneck, % 308 % caliper brake, seat cover, % 309 % chromies, and handle % 310 % cushions. % 311 % ONLY $30.00! % 312 % % 313 % 4 Sale: Kent AGRESSOR BMX % 314 % Certified with white frame,% 315 % reinforced crossbars, red % 316 % LESTER mags, coaster brake,% 317 % and allen wrench double % 318 % gooseneck. % 319 % ONLY $30.00! % 320 % % 321 % Need a bike fixed? Need a certain % 322 % part? Want a new paint job on YOUR % 323 % bike? Need a new BIKE? % 324 % % 325 % Call Voice: 284-8863 % 326 % % 327 % Bryce Tomlinson's Quicksilver Bike % 328 % Salvage & Repair, Sales & Exchange % 329 % % 330 % We also BUY BIKES! % 331 % % 332 % Cool bikes at a HOT price! % 333 % % 334 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 335 336 337 OFF 338 339 340 341 For the person on disk b that wanted alist of local bulliten boards here is 342 a partial list. 343 1. UNICORN WEYER..........761-4592 344 2. HACKER JACK............653-2172 345 3. PAUG...................236-0281 346 4. OMEGA QUADRANT.........659-7977 347 5. IBBS...................292-1321 348 6. THE PLAZA..............248-9634 349 7. THE ROSE...............283-9677 350 I hope that you have as much fun bbsing as I do. As I find more I will 351 leave the names and numbers here if itis alright with the SYSOP. 352 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 353 To the above person: *NEVER* post a list of boards unless you have called 354 *all* of them recently (like within the past week). Hacker Jack has moved 355 to Corvallis. And I believe that The Rose has changed to a Beaverton number 356 If The Plaza is the Club Plaza, it is now 641-0649. For an up-to-date list 357 call Applephilia (244-3105). 358 ____02/15/87__________Leonard_JD 2446842.4238_________14:10:21_PST_________ 359 360 ========================================================================== 361 PEDDLING PIPER WARES 362 -------------------- 363 364 The cold stoneness of the corpse against his cheek pulled him to 365 wakefulness; awake, yet not fully alert. 366 A faint clicking scattered through mind, making careful and regular, 367 gradually forming the beats of a clock. All was silent without, save for 368 the faint, second-hand clicks. He dressed himself up, looking out the 369 window to see the cool frost glittering on frozen brittle blades of grass, 370 their gentle stalks housed in an icy-sheen cage of transparency. 371 "Let's get moving," shouted a voice from a dark passageway in the 372 floor. slowly, he edged to his belongings, picking them up one by one. 373 The last, deadly weapon though it was, must come as well. He admired it 374 for the deadly power he had when he clutched it, yet was revulsed by it for 375 the same. A wanderer's life amongst hostile land invites enemies, and 376 there was only a single response those enemies understood... violence. 377 The sword was necessary. 378 He shifted his belongings to accomodate the little headroom in the 379 floor passage. With a quick glance around he ducked into the passage and 380 stumbled headlong into the darkness off-balance. Slowly adjusting eyes 381 gave him faint traces of movement, then forms. His ankle buckled on the 382 stairs and forms disappeared from vision as he tumbled down into 383 resignation, the sword sticking from his side, pommel out, blade in. His 384 blood ran. And he dreamed of lost mirrored reflections in the shadow of 385 death brought by a necessary sword. 386 387 ========================================= SLJ ==================== 388 389 HELP 390 I'M BEING HELD PRISONER BY MY OWN IGNORANCE OF HOW TO EXIT THE ENTER DATA MODE ON THIS BBS. 391 ******************************************************************** 392 I guess I'm not very patriotic, I find "Amerika" to be BORRRRINGGGG. 393 ************************** CISTOP MIKEY ***************************** 394 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 395 Mikey - you should have watched the movie just before it. Disney's 396 dramatization of Mr. Verne's "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" has 397 a political statement *much* better expressed than anything that I've 398 seen on TV for a long time. For those who don't know what I'm talking 399 about, what was the power source for Captain Nemo's vessel? 400 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 401 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 402 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 403 Hey, 404 Did anyone see Saturday night live? AMERIDA. Could it happen? 405 I have some other questions too. Why do these tv executive dudes put dumb 406 stuff on tv? AMERIKA, The Two Mrs. Grinwalds, ect. I personally would like to 407 see more of Disney's stuff. Sure some of it's for little kids, but some can 408 be pretty cool. And maybe instead of paying 40 million to make stupid, and 409 overall boring shows like AMERIKA they should get some newer movies like 410 Beverly Hills Cop would be a improvment. Not super new movies but ones that 411 are'nt 7 years old and everyone has seen 20 times. 412 A little opion from.... 413 ________________ 414 * 415 * 416 * 417 * 418 * he Unnatural 419 420 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 421 I am selling a Commodore 64 with two 1541 disk drives, a 1702 color 422 monitor, a MPS-803 printer, and a WHOLE BUNCH of software, I am selling 423 all of this fine equipment for an great low price of $650 or best offer. 424 At retail price it would cost about $725, but you don't get all the fun 425 misc. software!!! 426 427 If you are interested in this CHEAP BONANZA call me... at 428 (503)282-xxxx (voice), ask for Greg, or leave a message. Ok. 429 Thanks... 430 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 431 432 James: Is it OK to post items for sale? 433 434 Greg; Yeah, as long as the postings aren't wildly huge. - Reuben Look Alike 435 By the name of Jones. 436 437 438 If the fellow from DPNW posts his questionaire, remember: he is making mon 439 money from your answers. Why should he be allowed to use a free BBS to poll 440 opinions for his business? 441 (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)p(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) 442 *^$$*@^#^*#^##^(##^*&*@%^_#$^*)*&(+_^(^)@+^(@+(%(!_(~+_$(!(^@_|(@+^*_)*&#%!+%*(@ 443 emu: I am *UNCLEAR* to what power source he used. Could you radiate some light 444 as to the answer. I am sure the fallout from the answer will be minimal. 445 Mikey: Sure Amerika is boring now, but what if it had starred Chuck Norris or 446 Sly Stallone? It would have been full of bombs and machine guns and explosions, 447 as a small group of outlaw GI Joes keep the rotten Rusky amry at bay, ala 448 Red Dawn. I think the makers of this film wanted to present 'What I think is 449 wrong with our country' with a 14.5 hour movie. You don't demonstrate such a 450 grandiose thought with M16's, you do it with talk, and more talk, and still 451 more talk, unless you are Kris Kristofferson; then you just state at people 452 and mutter a word or two. 453 454 What bothered me from the beginning about this movie, is how the situation 455 depicted could ever come to pass. America is (I believe) the fourth largest 456 country land mass on the earth. It has the third largest standing army, and 457 the second (or first depending on who you listen to) largest nuclear 458 arsenal. It has the largest weapons manufacturing capability of any country 459 on earth. So how did we lose the war? Did the Ruskies walk in and take over? 460 I don't fall for this apathetic BS. Nationalism is at a high right now, and 461 I fail to see how in 1987 the US could be taken so easily. I find it difficult 462 to base a 14.5 hour show on the premise that the Russians could walk in and 463 take the country relatively unscathed. Perhaps we will see differently in 464 the upcoming hours. 465 466 My predictions for upcoming events in Amerika: 467 468 Mariel Hemingway, in her most stunning role since Star 80, will knife Sam 469 Neill in the back when he least expects it... Think about it. 470 Wendy Hughes will get hers when Kris catches up to her and makes her sorry 471 she ever turned him in. Meanwhile, their older son will takes Dad's side and 472 become a leading freedom fighter. 473 Cindy Pickett, sick of Robert Urich's rise to power in the name of helping his 474 country, will split with their daughter and hide out with Krisofferson. 475 476 One thing I thought very funny about the first episode: Apparently the Russians 477 have used their touch of gold on the midwest farm land by dividing it up into 478 a bunch of tiny plots, they have turned the most productive land in terms of 479 bushel/acre in the world into dust. But this time there is no US to buy wheat 480 from. 481 482 Peter (oRAGogian) Farrell says the last four hours are the best. I bet the best 483 is yet to come! :-) 484 *%#%@)*@*_))^*_)^!_^&!_%!@%!@ L'homme sans Parity *%_!$!_)$*!_)$*!_)$*!@$!_$! 485 PS To mikey: Check percival this evening, stuff should be there (I hope). 486 %*#@%#%%*_)%*@_%)*%_)*%)%_)*_%*@%*^*&^*@*@^@)*@@^@_&_*_)*_)!*!_*%!_%*!_%*!_%* 487 488 bit of fictional relief: 489 490 -- Tam held the spoon with such a rigid grasp the her fingers lost the 491 color of healthy flesh and became pale white. Her eyes were the same color 492 as the liquid medication that poured down into the spoon. When her shaking 493 started again, she jabbed the metal spoon into her mouth, glancing off her 494 teeth once. You see, she played one of the instruments in a string 495 quartet. But she also was insane and under medication to keep her 496 reasonable. The medication kept her from playing well however. Knowing it, 497 she kept herself on dosages far under what was needed to keep her sane. 498 Only now, she was losing it so fast if she didn't take the medicine, she'd 499 lose it all. -- 500 501 ___________________________________________________________________________ 502 L'homme: While I missed part of the first episode, I got the impression 503 that the SU used EMP to knock out communications. (yes, I know there are 504 problems with this). 505 As for the size of our armed forces, please check the figures for 506 *combat* troops and for percentage of units combat ready, and percentage 507 at full strength. (As an example, US Navy missile frigates have to 508 rendevous with their reliefs and transfer the missiles as there aren't 509 enough to go around). 510 As has been noted in the media, we do not have enough supplies 511 (especially ammunition) to fight a war for more than a few days. Our 512 *only* choices are surrender, or "push the button". Care to make any bets 513 as to what a Democratic president might do given that choice? Especially, 514 since (from what we've seen so far) the terms were quite generous. If you 515 don't think they were generous, try picturing us under the same kind of 516 control as the SU uses in Eastern Europe. 517 ____02/16/87__________Leonard_JD 2446843.6480_________19:33:08_PST_________ 518 Reuben Look Alike: Really now, I don't think that you look like Reuben at a 519 So, why don't you pick another name... - James 520 (that's all not a) 521 Reuben Look Alike: What do you think about an "Ask The Staff" column in the 522 paper? Or perhaps that should be "Ask Mike"? - James 523 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 524 FINGERS: TELL BOSS THE MEET'S SET FOR FRIDAY AT VINNY'S. LEFTY 525 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 526 527 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 528 Regarding Amerika: I have not watched it a, and I have no intention of 529 wathching it, but from what I have heard, it is wildly inaccurate, especially 530 in its portrayal of the Russian people. I have spoken with people about 531 Russian history, and they may have every right to be as paranoid as they 532 seem to be. During the course of their history, they have been invaded 533 several times, tyrannized and basically stepped upon. This even shows in 534 parts of their language. One episode of their history involved the Tartars 535 who would ride to a town and demand tribute. If it was not paid, they 536 killed every man, woman, and child, rode to the next town ( with smoke still 537 on the horizon ) and demanded tribute. VEEEEERRRRRY effective. And you 538 wonder why they aren't willing to negotiate and improve relations? The 539 president has missiles situated all around the Soviet-bloc countries, and 540 he wonders why they aren't willing to negotiate? 541 unbeliever 542 P.XS. The Russian word for money comes out of the period of history I mentione 543 d. Russian is my major, and sometimes it gives an expanded view of things 544 beyond the nationalism that most people exhibit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 545 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 546 O\=<[(V2V)]>=/O 547 lEONARD: JD (JEWISH DJERK): Never ever say *NEVER* again . 548 O\=<[(V2V)]>=/O 549 DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW 550 Watch this space for our QUESTIONAIRES about 551 A I D S (Accute Insufficient Disk Space). 552 We're going to offer free CONDOMS (COmputerized NonDestructible Output 553 Message Systems) for everybody participating. 554 Demographics Pacific North West 555 DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW DPNW 556 How about using NOx|A (Numbskull Operators). 557 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 558 What a car load of tar! I am heading east to see some czar. I don't think it 559 is very far. I'm taking some friends, in the back of the car. 560 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 561 Lefty: Fingers got knocked off last night by the boss himself, so I told him... 562 - James 563 564 **************************************************************************** 565 L'homme: How can it be anything *but* better from where it started. 566 Yes, the way the thing was written requires gobs and gobs of talk too 567 set things up. Then about once a night they can lead up to a "powerfully 568 emotional" scene that doesn't need any words to make it understood. Of 569 *course* it doesn't need any words, they provided them all night long. 570 There were many many scenes that I felt were of little use and didn't 571 need to be there. Most of the stuff I saw could have been tightened up 572 by at least a factor of 3 or 4. This thing makes Gandi look like a 573 (up)Chuck Noris film. I have been watching most of it, but I do confess 574 that I have been switching channels when it gets so blasted boring that 575 I can't take it anymore. I'm not after shoot 'em up stuff, I'd just like 576 to see some movement, and a relief from the tedious repitition of the 577 same plot line over and over and over and over and over and over and ov.... 578 In regard to Russia's past problems definning their current mind set, 579 I agree to some extent, but not entirely. There have been *many* societies 580 that have endured such problems and they survived. No tow societies go in 581 the same direction. Americans have a problem of expecting the world to 582 think and operate the way they do. And when the world goes on its way 583 and ignores America we get all upset and *demand* that they follow our 584 path. Every society has its own values and ideals. Ours is not the 585 only way, nor is it the best way for everyone. 586 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ************************************ 587 ____02/17/87__________________JD 2446844.7389_________21:44:01_PST_________ 588 Egad...I'm sitting here and AmeriKa is getting even worse. I'm going to 589 have to give it up. Booooo-ring. 590 SKNXXXXXX ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz 591 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 592 Mikey: This is very true.... I really wasn't thinking clearly, just blindly 593 striking out against ofall of the anti-Soviet dreck everywhere. I think that 594 perhaps the U.S. could get along a great deal better with the Soviet Union. 595 It is also very true that the Americans think that everybody thinks and acts 596 in the same way they do. The Soviets are used to their system, and we are used to ours. I doubt that we could ever completely 597 understand each others' viewpoint, because of cultural, social, and ideological 598 differences, but relations could possibly improve greatly if we took the time 599 to take into account these differences in those areas. 600 Unbeliever (pessimist at large) 601 602 P.S>. Milch can tell you that I don't often think clearly. This is due to 603 a general tendency to procrastination and general fuzzy-mindedness. And insomnia. 604 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 605 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 606 Hmmmm, an Unbeliever at large. Now who let him out of his dorm/cage? :-) 607 Unbeliever: Your fuzzy-mindedness hasn't been *too* prevalent recently; I don't 608 recall a count of over 3 on anything I've said in the last week or so. 609 Some true accounts of what goes on in the USSR may be found in R.A. Heinlein's 610 "Expanded Universe" (he has been there on sightseeing trips at least twice). 611 +++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch +++++++++++++ 18 Feb 87 at 12:46am +++++++++++++ TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 611