1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 ************************* INSTALLED: 7 JAN 87 ************************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ***************************************************************** 19 20 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 21 That door again! Oh, for a pair of earmuffs, like Bard's. And not a single 22 appropriate spell on my 3 x 5 cards, either. On second thought, how about...? 23 I spent some time flipping through the bundle of cards I had with me at the 24 present moment, and soon came upon something that might help. 25 "En la cima porgatim flubboru nimstull orgalmateh!", the card read. 26 Drat. No good. 27 Suddenly the terrible racket ceased of its own accord. 28 Well, that was good. Now at least I can concentrate on those incantations. 29 And Piper might be able to sleep, if he wishes. He certainly looks tired. 30 But where had Innkeeper gone? 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++ January 7, 1987 at 8:46pm +++++ 32 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 33 A noise so intense !!! And then an angry swarm of bees ? Perhaps another 34 glass will ease the pain... Bartender ? Innkeeper ? Well, I guess I will 35 get it myself. Going behind the bar, I served up tankards to everyone, and 36 then remembered the times I had set one out in Piper's absence for him. 37 "Say there Piper," seeing him awake from the noise, "Did those ales I set 38 out for you reach you through the mist ?" I put the gold coin in the box for 39 the round of ale and sat down again, thankful that my training allowed me 40 to block out unwanted noise while passing desired communication through to 41 me. 42 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 43 44 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 45 46 47 48 OFF 49 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.EmuLurk 50 =============================================================== 51 Does anyone remember how the tradition of thinking of Backwater 52 as an Inn was started? Or how being at the TOP came to have 53 such significance? I was just curious. I thought it would be an 54 interesting bit of history if any could remember. 55 56 George 57 =============================================================== 58 Ask MIKEY! He knows everything! 59 60 Want to buy an Apple //c computer? Write me email 61 on PSG Fido or on Applephilia BBS. Thanks! 62 Tell a friend!!!! 63 Sean McKay 64 /\/\/\/\ 65 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ 66 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 67 I believe the apprentice could answer your question George. If not 68 try asking Leonard or L'homme sans Parity. 69 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 70 Denizens of evil: Go to the Devil. 71 Mocking reply: We have no Devil. Nah Nah Nah. 72 D of e: Then go to blazes. 73 M r: We have no blazes. Nah Nah Nah. 74 75 With conversations similar to the above, Paperback writer and friends are 76 invited to a long walk off a short pier. It just isn't worth the time to 77 talk to such people. Enough is enough. 78 79 F.L.B. 80 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 81 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 82 Q: What would Sigmond Freud call a mantra? 83 A: A fixation. 84 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 85 Ah, I'm at the bottom. Such a feeling. But wait! Soon 86 I will be appended to and be in the middle. Oh, well. 87 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\kaos\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 88 You isn't on the bottem no more guy. Me is. Hi there, I'm back, killer eh? 89 Whats with the first 2 messages there? Sounded kinda dicky to me. 90 +++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+++ 91 +--------SPRECHENHALTESTELLE-----------++ (having probs. spelling my own name) ++++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-92 off 93 LET ME OUT! 94 out 95 ARRGHHH!! 96 off 97 Uh guys, I have'nt beeen on in awhile, how do I get out???????? 98 99 out 100 off 101 /s 102 done 103 WHHHAAAAA 104 done 105 106 WHAT AN IDJUT! 107 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 108 As I entered the Inn I realized that this was no ordinary alehouse. It seemed' 109 a place to lose oneself. I sat, watched and waited, becoming familiar with 110 the clientle and surroundings. What to make of all this? Here I sat, a man 111 with no special powers, talents or abilities. Would they accept one such as 112 I? Only time would tell. One thing was clear about this Inn, it was like 113 no other I had encountered since I awoke in the "multi-verse". I longed to 114 once again hike the cool greenness of Earth's mountain slopes. Yet there wa 115 so much I did not know about this world. Here was a place to learn. Perhaps 116 one of these strange wonderful people knew the way home? At any rate, they 117 did serve a first rate brew. Something akin to happiness, but not quite the 118 same emotion, settled on me. I smiled and drank my ale. It was interesting 119 that there should be so much attention given to a mere door. Had I been in 120 more sure of my position I might've asked someone what the fascination was. 121 Time would tell though. 122 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<=/O 185 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 186 The Infamous NET has never saved the day. That has always been 187 left to the really good writers who take the time to make 188 carefully plotted well thought out entries. The NET is made 189 up of a bunch of kids who are on an ego trip. They imagine that 190 they are great writers so they put down everyone else to build 191 up their own immature egos. Have patience, eventually one of the 192 better writers will find the time to make an intelligent well 193 crafted entry. Eventually they always do. 194 195 George 196 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 197 =================================================== 198 199 GREATINGS FROM BEYOND THE VOID- 200 ME ENTRY TO THIS PLACE WAS A HASTY ONE 201 SO FOGIVE ME ABRUPT BEHAVIOR, I NOT QUITE 202 ACCUSTOM TO YOU LAND YET. ONE NIGHT I BE 203 IN THE GOLD KI-RIN INN ENJOYING THE COMPANY 204 E SENSOUS YOUNG LADY THEN HER HUSBAND 205 ABYSS TO THIS STRANGE LAND. 206 ME BE ASKING THE HELP OF ANY THAT CAN GET 207 I BACK TO WHERE ME ONCE BELONGED. ME WOULD 208 MOST GREATFUL FOR SUCH A DEED. 209 MY7AZHOD THE LOST 210 211 =================================================== 212 213 .........(GASP),HELLO...... 214 ........MY NAME IS HANSE, I AND MY COMPANIONS HAVE TRAVELED MANY LEAGUES, 215 ......BLAST, DAMN MACHINES........ AT ANY RATE, WHEN WE LEOH, GODS!!!!!! 216 THEIR HERE ALREADY, I MUST LEAVE IMMEDIATELY, TELL THEM NOTHING, FOR IT WILL DO 217 YOU NO GOOD , AND I AM NOT A FORGIVING SOUL, FAREWELL, 218 SHADOWSPAWN. 219 [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 220 Mother-" 221 I haven't talked to my mother in years now. I'm really not even sure if she's still alive. There was a time though, 222 when that was different. 223 When I was young, we were friends. Good friends. She spent hours with me, sitting on our porch, telling me stories 224 of those things were when she was young, laughing at my dog Randy- as he lazily chased butterflies in the meadow before us. 225 She was a good woman, always kind, with good things to say about everything. She could make the sun shine on a 226 blustery day- Even the day Randy died. 227 It was like any other day, the sun low in the sky as Randy and I walked down the dirt path that led out of the school- 228 yard. Tall trees sent shimmering shadows to play with my footsteps as I walked towards home. Randy loved to chase the 229 shadows that danced by my feet. He was a great dog. He was by best friend. 230 We were walking beside the road one day, anxious to get home to dinner, when Randy found a bird to chase. He chased 231 it a ways, and I lost sight of him as he ran round a bend in the road. I wasn't worried though, Randy was a good dog and 232 always knew what to do. I heard two cars racing in the distance behind me. I turned to see them fly by me, round the bend, 233 and listend to them as they roared back off into the distance. Randy hadn't returned to my side yet, but this was not 234 strange. He always could find something to occupy himself with along the road. 235 What I saw as I rounded the bend I will never forget. Randy lay there before me, breathing with obvious effort. Blood 236 poured out of him, turning the dirt around him to rust colored mud. He looked at me and tried to raise his head, but it was 237 no use, he was almost dead. I ran to him and threw my arms around him. Blinded by tears, I screamed out how much I loved 238 him and how he was going to get better, as if it would help him. It didn't. 239 I carried Randy's limp body all the way home. I was drenched in blood as I walked in the front door. I knew that 240 mother could do something to save Randy. 241 She took his dead body from my arms, walked outside, and set him down on the front porch. She turned, walked to me, 242 put her arms around me, and told me of all the good things that would come of it. She told me how Randy would go to heaven 243 to be with God and how he would have all the meadowns in the world to play in. She told me how he would never be sick, 244 get a thorn in his paw, or even be hungry, ever again. My tears slowly dried as what she was saying began to make sense. 245 Then she told me of the glorious way we would bury Randy. She said that because he was too good to be buried in the dirt, 246 we would se his soul free and on its way to his better life. 247 We spent the last hours of twilight gathering kindling to add to the wood we had gotten from out of the shed. We built 248 a huge pile in the middle of the meadow and when we were through, mother placed Randy on top. She covered his with daisies 249 she had gathered from around he before she lit the wood. It started with a spark and quickly grew into a roaring fire, 250 spitting sparks upward. 251 Randy went to heaven that night. I'll never forget seeing the air shimmer above the meadow as his soul rose, up into 252 the night sky. 253 -Shiva 254 [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 255 256 Excellent entry. That was touching and extemely well written. Keep up the good work. - Terry 257 ************************************************************************ 258 George - Right on about the NET. If their talent was half as big as their 259 egos they'd really have something, but they don't. I wonder when they're 260 going to show us some the published work they keep bragging about. I 261 can't imagine a publisher even looking at their drivel. 262 263 Shiva - Outstanding entry. It's good to see some really quality writing 264 on Backwater. Congratulations. 265 266 Farnsworth 267 ************************************************************************ 268 PRINT 269 270 271 SHIVA, I REALLY ENJOYED YOUR PIECE, MY DOG WAS KILLED IN MUCH THE SAME WAY, AND I WAS REMINDED OF THE PAIN OF BURYING HER 272 THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR LOSS WITH ME,(AND EVERYONE ELSE)IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. AGAIN THANK YOU, JEAN D. 273 PRINT 224 274 275 276 PRINT 226 277 123456789012345678901234567890 278 279 I COME HOME 280 LATE AT NIGHT 281 MY ROM IS DARK 282 I WON'T TURN ON THE LIGHT. 283 TAKE OFF MY PANTS, 284 PEEL OFF MY SOCKS, 285 MY SHIRT HITS THE FLOOR 286 AS I HIT MY BED. 287 I DRIFT OFF TO SLEEP. 288 I TRY NOT TO, 289 BUT I DREAM. 290 I TRY NOT TO, 291 BUT I DREAM OF YOU 292 AS I DRIFT TO SLEEP. 293 294 SUBMITTED BY MARK, THE PROFESSOR 295 098765432109876543210987654321 296 George: How do you know that the NET writers aren't the same "better writers" 297 using an alias to try something different? 298 Farnsworth: I don't recall any of the NET people claiming to have anything 299 published. But they wouldn't lie about that sort of thing, either. 300 They are not 'kids' the average age must be close to 30! 301 *Some* of them may have ego problems, but don't try to blame all of them 302 for one person! 303 304 I'm rather curious as to why some people seem to be *trying* to start 305 trouble. Net hasn't done anything in a long time except leave a couple 306 msgs *after* someone impersonated one of them! 307 I see no need to make comments like "now I suppose NET will come in and 308 fix everything" in such an obviously sarcastic tone. You obviously have 309 not been on the system long as NET has only *once* gotten involved in 310 one of the "Inn" stories. And all involved agreed that that was a mistake! 311 ____01/10/87__________Leonard_JD 2446806.6093_________18:37:27_PST_________ 312 |=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=| 313 314 What's this? Backwater demonstrating civil tenancies and, yes, even reactions 315 to someone else's thoughts? Not the vicious circle that I have grown used to. 316 Maybe it is just the senior writers toying with those here who just read and 317 aspire to write well. I don't know, and don't care to. I am glad to see that 318 a change is coming about, but it has been long since needed. Maybe that is 319 320 what the door was all about.... Does it really matter? For all of you in NET 321 think about this. One of 'them' is writing about you. How does it feel to be 322 a part of such a prestigious organization? Does it make you feel good? Are 323 you really proud to know that you have a skill that started only for it's 324 ability to find and discredit/embarass/harass people. Maybe you don't do that 325 now, but we all have our roots... 326 |=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=| 327 328 hello 329 330 331 ####################################################################### 332 I looked at the jar I held with no small amount of trepidation. I 333 had only set eyes upon the dark red ball of matter enclosed in the 334 protective glass of the jar twice before. 335 The first time was at the start of an abortive adventure of which I 336 had little control of. Just thinking of it caused my lungs to echo the 337 pain they felt and my hands to shake again. 338 The second and last time I had seen the thing within was after the 339 end of that same adventure when I had found myself in my own wine cellar 340 naked as the day I was born. 341 I didn't see it that day, rather the day afterwards while in search 342 of a particlar vintage that a customer had ordered. While looking in a 343 storage box that I had thought that I had placed it in for safe keeping 344 I saw something glowing a dull red between two casks on the floor. 345 I hurried over, thinking at first that my torch has set some ball 346 of dust on fire and I was going to put it out before it grew to flame. 347 But as I reached in with a stick to drag it out I found that it wasn't 348 fire that caused the glow, but something else. 349 I knew what it was the instant I saw it in the flickering light of 350 the torch. "So my friend, you weren't left behind after all I see." 351 Knowing what would happen should I touch the surface of the ball, I 352 went in search of and found a glass jar, then using the stick, I rolled 353 the little red ball into the jar with extreme caution so as not to 354 accidently touch it. I then placed it in the box under the trap in my 355 room for safe keeping until I could consider the matter more closely. 356 Now was the time to consider. I was faced with a situation that 357 required more knowledge and understanding than my simple life had 358 provided me. The ball of whatever it was in the jar was my ticket to 359 that knowledge. Of course as with all things it came with a price. 360 This 'price' is what I was in fear of. The loss of my identity, 361 the loss of my very sanity. I had nearly lost it once before, would I 362 be able to cope should I take the plunge? To share ones identity and 363 very existance with a parisite is one thing when it happens without your 364 expressed premission, but to purposefully submit oneself to such an 365 existance...is this in itself a sane act? Of course it wasn't a 366 parasitic relationship in truth, it would more aptly be described as a 367 symbiotic one. But was it worth it? Was the value receieved worth that 368 lost? Who can say? 369 As I stood there watching the ball through the glass, trying to 370 decide the best course, the ball began to glow in a slow pulsing throb. 371 Not an unpleasing throb, just the opposite, it seemed to sooth my fears, 372 allowing me to think of the positive aspects of the coming union. It 373 must sense my presence and know that it's only chance of corporal 374 existance was though me. 'Coming union' ? ah, then indeed my mind was 375 made up after all, I only needed to convince myself that this course of 376 action was best, that I was making the proper decision. 377 Whether it was right or not, the decision was made, and I began to 378 remove the lid. Tipping the jar, I let the ball roll out in my hand. I 379 watched as after a moments hesitation the ball began to shink. In 380 seconds it had disappeared leaving only a small pile of dirt and grease 381 in my palm. - To be continued - 382 ############################# The Innkeeper ############################ 383 Needle! 384 Pin! 385 RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 386 Aha! So it is the "twit hunts" that caused you to acquire such a 387 negative attitude towards NET. Well. They were NEVER a major reason for 388 our existence. And we were around BEFORE they started. It's a pity we 389 weren't as good at it as some seem to think. If we were then certain 390 incidents last summer would have been VERY short lived! Those incidents 391 show why CISTOP MIKEY allowed us to conduct the occasional "twit hunt", 392 though most of the time the closest we came to actually condocting one 393 was to post comments like "Looks like it's about time for another twit 394 hunt". 395 We NEVER we out to "discredit/embarass" people. "Harass" was a 396 possibility, after all the people we were looking for WERE CAUSING 397 TROUBLE ON THIS SYSTEM. This is our system just as much as it was theirs 398 and given a choice, I suspect most users would rather have our "third 399 rate spy stories" than ZZ TOP RULES, The Random Deleter, or others of 400 their ilk. By the way, what were YOUR comments intend for if not as a 401 "put down" of NET? (I'd say a put down comes under the heading of 402 "discredit/embarass/harass") 403 I suggest you contact someone with a set of the BW Archives and 404 check out just what we REALLY did. And how often. You may discover you 405 owe us an apology. 406 Ian MacHinery 407 Director, North America (retired) 408 RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY 409 An apology?! Oh come now, why should anyone apologize to you because you 410 acted like the bunch of twits you were supposedly chasing? I myself have 411 no reason or desire to consider doing so. Just be cause you didn't like 412 certain people who use the system doesn't mean that 'everyone' hates them 413 as you do. There are those who consider your works to 0be no better 414 than the very "twits" you supposedly were harassing. There is no difference 415 in my view between 20 lines of "WKJEB OYRML YUWE_" and "ZZ TOP RULES". 416 In fact, at least "ZZ TOP RULES" is a statement of expression that readable 417 and thereby understandable to some extent compared to the scrambled 418 alphabet that the NET so loved to spew forth on "your" system. 419 Saying that you don't act like a twit does not automatically 420 exonerate you from being one. Your actions have already spoken for you. 421 - John Dilks (my real name, and I am not afraid to use it unlike you.) 422 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 423 |~|~==|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=| 424 425 Ah, I see. You empowered yourselves to decide who was right and who was 426 wrong, and set out to remove that which you found to be a waste of space 427 and time. Well, did you ask everybody first? Did you think of all the 428 prople you would affect BEFORE you started your little game? Are you so 429 perfect that you can decide who can say what without being edited/deleted? 430 I think that Backwater's policy of deletion is almost too strict now, and 431 yet you have empowered yourselves to decide what appears here. Are you all 432 the vigilante types you appear to be, or is that for the ringleader to 433 decide? How can you decide? How can you be sure? If even one person would 434 have derived enjoyment from one of the things you deleted, then you were 435 wrong in all you set out to do. Maybe NET tries to be honorable, but 436 censoring is still sensoring. You cannot force your opinions upon others, 437 or expect everyone to believe the way you do. To try is criminal, and stupid 438 besides. By the way, have you figured out who this is yet? Am I going to 439 start getting calls at three in the morning, or are you just going to make 440 sure I never post MY opinion anymore? 441 442 |=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=|=| 443 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 444 Please, gentlemen, a little civility? We were doing so well there 445 for a while, let's not spoil it. Besides, the (in)famous NET hasn't 446 really had much to say in the last couple months. Maybe we shouldn't 447 awaken the sleeping? 448 My self, I'm quite anxious to find out more about our host's latest 449 little diversion. Something to get our minds off of that beastly, 450 noisy door. And maybe another mug of that fine brew from Meuphestea... 451 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 452 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 453 "Ah ! Emu stops lurking in the back. A large tabnkard for you sir." 454 I looked in the direction our Innkeeper had gone. "Cragmore ?", I said 455 quietly, so as not to disturb Piper who had fallen back asleep, "I am 456 getting a feeling of more than one soul in the other room. Would you 457 mind ESPERing a look for me ?" I set down Emu's tankard and another for 458 Cragmore who had drained his as well. 459 [][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 460 461 ............................................................................... 462 463 It was extemely late in the afternoon, and I was just getting back from 464 school, hungry, tired, and depressed from failing a geometry exam. I 465 approached the door, only to find that I had left my housekeys in the locker 466 at school. Great. So, I went around to the back and let myself in through 467 the back window. With a brick. 468 I looked through the entire house calling "Mom? Hello, mom?" As I 469 approached the dining room table, I noticed a small note... 470 "Dinner on your own tonight. Love, mom" 471 --- What was that? A prelude to suicide? Where was the point? Where was the 472 meaning? Or are you teaching your cat to dance on the terminal??? 473 ---Who Cares? 474 475 ################################################################ 476 Dear Readers: 477 478 I have a question I recieved in a recent letter that my panel 479 of experts was unable to answer. I'm offering to you for your 480 opinion. Is it socially inappropriate to urinate while taking 481 a shower? Or doesn't it really matter since the urine is all 482 washed down the drain anyway? My readers are all waiting with 483 baited breath for your reply. 484 485 Ann Landers 486 ############################################################## 487 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 488 Ian - It wasn't the twit hunting at all. 489 In fact, that was somewhat amusing. What 490 it was more than anything was the arrogance. 491 492 The NET presented itself as a literary 493 elite yet generally didn't produce anything 494 of better quality than the rest of us. It 495 was the unjustifiable condescending 496 snobbery that was offensive. It's interesting 497 that something that happened so long ago 498 still evokes such strong negative feelings.. 499 500 I for one am now ready to let it drop. 501 502 Brad 503  504 P.S. - By the way, Ian, of all the Net 505 writers you are undoubtably the most 506 talented. Your writing has always been 507 excellent 508 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 509 Balony! His was one of the most snobish of the lot. 510 I personally thought that Ian was one of the poorer 511 adn lousier writers. And I also agree with John D. 512 that lines and lines of scrambled letters was no 513 different then lines and lines of ZZ Top Rules or 514 who cares crap. A twit is a twit no matter what 515 he says otherwise. 516 ============================ ME ================== 517 \\\\\\\\\\\What is that deal, anyway?\\\\\\\\\\\kaos\\\\\\\\\\\\ 518 060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606 519 Snobbish? Egotistical? Perhaps. Yet this same group has also produced many 520 wonderful stories here on BWMS, under other names AND their 'NET' personas. 521 The "twit hunts" began when a few people began abusing the system to an 522 intolerable extent (I am NOT referring to ZZ TOP RULES, but rather to entire 523 disks filled with carriage returns or the same obscenity 610 times). They 524 began because the people who had grown to care for the system could not stand 525 to see Mikey's time and effort wasted on disks full of nonconstructive garbage. 526 The feeling that NET had become elitist had already been expressed within NET 527 itself just as I became a member thereof; I believe that those feelings and 528 ideas are a thing of the archives. 529 Disclaimer: These words and thoughts are my own, and may not be the opinion of 530 anyone else in the multiverse. -06 531 060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606060606 532 O\=<([V2V])>=/O 533 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 534 I do not doubt that the abusers here need to be told to stop. Perhaps the 535 reputation Net earned was from the fiction more than action itself. Are any 536 of the people here fully informed? Not even all the Net agents have heard 537 the whole story, I bet. Rumors of persecuting phone calls are just dumb. I 538 know the Net, and they would not do that. A single call and a polite 539 request would suffice and everyone knows it. If one phone call can save as 540 much frustration as that, I am of the opinion it's a good idea. 541 No one was ever arrested, abducted, robbed, or even bound nor gagged. No 542 one was ever prevented from writing striking writing. 543 And I am sure that most people ragging on Net were jealous of the 544 steadfast friendships and the collaborative writing they enjoyed during 545 their heyday. It might not be the sole reason for the insults. I could 546 find a few dozen myself about the structure and people of Net. I will bet 547 a quarter it is a significant factor however. 548 At this, I would like to write that the heyday I mentioned was years 549 ago. We considered writing a story in which the characters met their ends 550 and demises. We then found the time had passed for any of that. Put these 551 arguments and reasons for despising the agents away. We have put our 552 stories and our sentimental times away. 553 Let's just go on ahead. Maybe let's even start a plot. I have this 554 great idea about Nazi spies sabotaging a Liberty ship port in New Jersey... 555 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 556 557 ----------------------------------------------------------- 558 an allegory 559 imagine she was a flier, she was a kite. her essence 560 as a girl, as a human life, is reduced to a simple plane 561 and a string. 562 and as for me, i am a single young boy. a child who 563 strolls on a long beach and watches the slight similarity 564 of the ocean and the clouds. a child who figures his stroll 565 is nothing of importance. neither to himself or to an 566 eternity. 567 watching my own motions as i kneel to grab the 568 abandoned craft, i see that it is torn and stained. 569 whether or not this kite is as significant as any 570 other i simply find that it takes to the airstreams nicely. 571 we spend hours in each other's attentions. neither 572 one wishing to end a charming time, and neither spending an 573 effort at leaving the other. 574 i desired, a few times, to simply let the string go. 575 away the kite and the afternoon. as the string would slip 576 from my hands, i would grab it and hold it strongly. as it 577 dove and spun in my control, it showed the desire and the 578 pleasure which we actually felt during that day. 579 our dance ended as a strong wind pressed it away 580 from me and dragged the twine from my fingers. it raised up 581 into the sky and over the ocean. 582 no matter the stomping or the parading which i 583 played at on the ocean shore, it was never as it was, 584 when... 585 i fondly remember that craft. our time spent on one 586 another. and still, i depress myself as i imagine her 587 laying on another ocean shore or her string in the fingers 588 and gaze of another. 589 ----------------------------------------------------------- 590 ############################################################################### 591 right... go ahead .... how about a story about israeli spies sabotaging/ 592 blackmailing the administration because of perceived us withdrawal of 593 funding for their lavi boondoggle. 594 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||::-( 595 %*_#@)*_)#@!%*!_)%*#!+_%(@#+^*@$+*^@+#_)^*$@+_^(@_(^+(^@+(+_@(^+_@$*^@+_*^@+_* 596 To all the NET raters/beraters: I offer volumes of archives for persusal by 597 anyone who wants to see WHAT REALLY HAPPENED on Backwater. NET was a bunch of 598 people writing spy/adventure stories. It was NOT late night phone calls or 599 alley knife fights or deletion of anti-NET comments or anything else this 600 current crop of writers seems so caught up in. The people who write 95% of 601 the stories have better stuff to do than transfer their stories from paper to 602 reality. If someone out there had REAL problems with people claiming to be 603 from NET, I am sure some of the writers who made up NET would be interested 604 in hearing about it. 605 Comments like 'NET sucks' and 'They are all assholes' says much more about 606 the writer of the comments than anyone else. I get tired of the constant 607 bitching about what happened on Backwater. This is a strange and unique 608 system for writing stories and having fun, not for making enemies and taking 609 out frustrations behind phony names or nameless entries. 610 So, in the name of Backwater, and all this system can be for all of us, let's 611 return to that ideal of creative writing used in a constructive manner, and 612 drop the snide, mostly unsigned comments. Remember, most everyone knows who 613 the NET people are. 614 *%(_)#$@&*^%_)(&_)#@!&^_)!&^)!_^ L'homme sans Parity %&(@#)&%@#&%_#%)&!)+_#%&_) 615 616 GRAPHICS: 617 618 Announcing NCGA's Computer Graphics 1987 symposium. 619 Philadelphia Civic Center, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 620 Hosted by the National Computer Graphics Association 621 William L. Howard, Conference Director 622 NCGA Computer Graphics '87. 623 Call NCGA for registration details. Sign up 624 soon. 625 626 NCGA : March 22-26. 627 628 END GRAPHICS. 629 Quote of the day : C.Itoh printers are one fast son-of-a-pitch! TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 629