1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 ************************* INSTALLED: 7 NOV 86 *********************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 no restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 to leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 *********************************************************** 19 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 20 Dare I say it? En la cima! 21 L'homme: It is now 12:12am November 7, 1986- I very much doubt I will be at 22 PCS, it being about 4 or 5 hours ago. I have a Statics class that ends at 23 6:30pm, and in addition, forgot the significance of the first Thursday. Sigh. 24 How many suckers, ahem, players, are interested in Risk? Now that I am in 25 Portland, transport is possible... Keep me in mind if you need another s- 26 player. :-) How much VOL is equated with five dollars? :-} 27 On another subject: Still minimal to nil monetary gains with my job, but more 28 hardware to play with is coming my way. A decent printer, a video digitizer, 29 a sound sampler, and assorted manuals. 30 Leonard: The remainder of my PC-2 equipment is also showing up. The RS232 31 interface for the PC operates at up to 2400 bps. At that rate, I'd fill the 32 memory in less than 8 seconds. 33 About enough to load a disk directory from that mini drive of yours... 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++++++++++ November 7, 1986 +++++++++++++ 35 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 36 MiG: Oh wonderful, we seem to have a duplicate MiG now. Just what we need. 37 And yes, no doubts now.... (That I.M. t-shirt is a trip...) 38 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 40 o\=<([v2v])>=/o 41 Re: The opening message: Looks like Mikey forgot and left ALL ALLOWED again. 42 Shame shame, Mikey... 43 o\=<([v2v])>=/o 44 45 FILE ON 46 MARGIN IS 90 47 STATUS: ENTER ONLY 48 NUMBER OF LINES: 44 49 50 So there! Besides, your momma's green and smokes kitty litter. -phj 51 52 AMENDMENT 1 (1791) 53 RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL FREEDOM 54 55 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or 56 prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, 57 or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to 58 petition the government for a redress of grievances. 59 60 61 62 ------ 63 TELL THAT TO SEN. JESSE HELMS ! 64 U.C. QUIP 65 ------ 66 Don't you think that there's a need for a constitutional amendment regarding 67 the above. Congress shouldn't be prohibited for making any law, whatever. 68 Anyhow, this is democractic country. Sovereignty resides in the people. 69 Congress is the representative elected by the *people*. And since, the 70 people are the sovereign, their elected representative should be free to do 71 whatsoever the *sovereign* so desire. 72 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 73 WHO CARES? 74 o\=<([v2v])>=/o 75 **********************generic border*************************** 76 Here I am, stoned again. I said I wasn't going to light that 77 pipe. But I lit it. I always light it. 78 79 The drugs are out of control. I keep telling myself I can stop. 80 But I don't! I just keep on smokin'. 81 82 It's starting to worry me. Maybe I'll never get it 83 control on my own. Maybe it's time to look into drug 84 treatment. 85 86 Shit! 87 88 Stonehead 89 90 *************************generic border************************ 91 92 KEEP UP THIS INPERSONATING CRAP !! 93 AND YOU`LL GIT TO MEET YOUR GOD. 94 95 *** 96 *** 97 *** 98 ******** 99 ************** 100 *** 101 IN HELL !! 102 103 KEEPER OF YOUR FOOLISH SOUL 104 scum 105 106 107 LIST 108 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 109 > Congress shouldn't be prohibited for making any law, whatever. Anyhow, 110 > this is democractic country. Sovereignty resides in the people. Congress 111 > is the representative elected by the *people*. And since, the people are 112 > the sovereign, their elected representative should be free to do 113 > whatsoever the *sovereign* so desire. 114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 115 I disagree. Sovereignty resides with the people, to be sure. But the 116 representatives are not sovereign. Even if indirectly. Fear of a 117 tyrannical sovereign on the shores of the United States was the reason 118 for writing the Bill of Rights. The first amendment was a part of that 119 Bill of Rights. Part of ten amendments limiting the power of the central 120 government. So that no tyranny would develop over the States. 121 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 122 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuv 123 -I- 124 125 The battle has raged now for a million years. Upon every dawn hell 126 sends an army of demons to earth, and upon everydawn an army from heaven 127 meets it on a plane that is not hell, heaven or earth. At the end of each 128 day a stalemate is reached. Everyday for a million years. 129 130 One day, among the million others, the battle lasted well into the night 131 . more blood was spilt in this battle than in all the others before it. 132 Hell's waning force had penetrated within a stones throw of the earthly 133 perimeter. But before the last she-demon was slaughtered, she tore from her 134 womb her own premature child and thrust it unto the world of man....... 135 136 zach 137 138 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuv 139 140 exit 141 142 {Yahuh. And I hear Hitler is being cloned in Paraguay. Gee, you watch those 143 Saturday late night "Documentary films" too? Watching one tonight in which 144 the Pilgrim fathers are revealed to be a cult of Satan worshipers and white 145 slavers. Sure am glad this startling information gets out!} 146 147 ++=+++++++++++AHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRGGGGHHHH+++++++++++++++Darbon++++++++++++++++++++ 148 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 149 Sorry about the delay in posting the story. I've not been able to 150 get on in a while. Let's see, we just had the piper entering the mysterious 151 sphere that had appeared in his camp... 152 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 153 The piper soon lost all perception of time. It may have been for only 154 moments, or for countless eterneties that his awareness moved within the 155 glowing sphere. What we call thought is an inherently complex process. 156 We can capture some of the verbal thoughts that pass through us, but 157 equally complex are the manipulations we perform `perhaps unconciously) on 158 the input from all our senses. We have nearly no vocabulary for smell, ver 159 little for taste, and almost none for the kinesthetic senses (the interior 160 senses that tell you where your body is and what it is doing). The 161 piper's raw awareness was floating in a totally alien sphere, recieving 162 input in totally different ways than ever it had before. The piper's 163 awareness changed, became different. 164 He was floating, bodiless through colored space. Green sang its restful 165 song as it eddied through him, bringing rest and growth. Far off, Red 166 counterpointed, echoed by the dull sadness of Grey. He thinned, and 167 Violet merged into soothing Blue, then muddy Brown violently thickened 168 him. He responded with a feeble orange, then faded into pink, bringing a 169 loud protest from both Orange and Pink. The colors exerted a pressure on 170 him until he changed, then suddenly he felt himself in a body again. 171 The piper was standing at the beginning of a path at the foot of a hill. 172 It was early afternoon, the honey-sweet breeze bringing its perfume to him 173 in balmy offering, the quiet buzz of the surrounding insects soothing his 174 weary soul. The piper looked up the path, winding about the scrub bushes, 175 then set his foot on the first step of the journey. 176 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 177 178 /\ See these eyes so green? /\ 179 < > < > 180 \/ I can stare for a thousand years. \/ 181 182 ########################################################################### 183 I scavanged my bag, looking for something decent to wear. Finally 184 settling on a suit with a minimal number of wrinkles, I threw it on and 185 headed out the door of the hotel room. 186 I waited as the elevator wisked me efficiently and quietly to the main 187 ballroom floor. The doors finally swished open and the noise and press of 188 the crowd replaced the quiet aand calm of a moment before. I looked around 189 for awhile those I had come with, but it was in vain, I could not find them 190 in this group. 191 In a short time the noise, smoke and smell began to overpower me, so I 192 sought out a quieter location. A pair of double doors in the rear presented 193 themselves, and I quickly headed for them. They opened to a small hallway. 194 A few steps further on was a great massive door of rich wood and heavy 195 glass. Fitting properly in with the decor of the hotel. Through the glass I 196 could see the outside world. 197 I stepped up to the window and looked out. The weather was in a nasty 198 mood, the wind whiped the rain amongst the small tress and scrub brush on 199 the mountain side, Thrashing them from side to side. There was nothing to 200 slow and tame the winds at this highth, so they were always strong and 201 powerful when they came. But they weren't vicious. The wind just was was it 202 was. 203 Without really thinking about it, I stepped outside. The full effect 204 of the wind and driven bits of rain struck me now, and I quickly grabbed 205 for the support of a nearby pillar. The wind was refreshing as it scowered 206 away the heat and smell of the crowded hotel. I felt like it swept through 207 my very soul, cleaning out bits and peices of dirt and stink that clung so 208 tightly. 209 The heavy wood and glass of the building withstood the driving force 210 of the wind without notice. It was solidly and well built, for those that 211 placed it here knew what to expect, and put great care in insuring that the 212 building would be able to withstand anything that nature could throw at it 213 up here. The lawn and field beyond in front of me was well kept when the 214 heavy winds were not in force. Now bits of leaves, twigs, and other debree 215 whipped about following the course layed out by the wind. 216 Soon I began to take chill, so regretfully I left the embrace of 217 nature and slipped back into the protection and warmth of the hotel. 218 As I stood there trying to decide which direction to go, up or down. 219 An obnoxious drunk came up from the ballroom and tried to get me to partake 220 of his drink. I declined and quickly headed up the small flight of stairs 221 to my right. 222 I found myself in the great kitchen that served the hotel. Turning 223 around to leave, for I knew that I shouldn't be there, I encountered 224 someone I knew coming up the stairs. He wasn't a friend, but I always seem 225 to meet him at these things. He greated me cheerily, and grasping my arm 226 lead me into the kitchen. The man who had been at his side continued on 227 without comment and was quickly lost in the maze of equipment. 228 "I could go for a drink", he stated. "I think I'll have a Gin fizz. 229 How about you?" 230 "I don't know" I replied, "maybe later." 231 "Hey, I know what you need!" he stated and before I could respond he 232 headed towards a small table to the side and began preparing an egg salid. 233 I watched quietly as he mixed it. He seperated a portion of the unmixed 234 contents in the bowl, and started throwing in a several spices and a larger 235 then normal dash of Paprika. 236 "There you go" he stated as he dished the mix into a clean bowl. 237 "That'll get you going." 238 I took the salad, but didn't eat it. It wasn't what I wanted. When I 239 looked up again, the man who had prepared it was gone. I carefully put the 240 bowl down on the metal table and headed out of kitchen. Again I found 241 myself at the door facing the window. 242 I enjoyed the outside show. Out there life and death struggles were 243 going on. Moment to moment activities were deciding the fate of the 244 vegitation and animals. Out there was reason and purpose, a sense of 245 existance. Back in the ballroom the mindless group stuffed themselves with 246 food and drink, speaking of nothing of such great import as life and death. 247 Hiding away from the world outside, sunk into the mindless trap of the 248 protection offered by the safe secure walls provided by the hotel. 249 They did not know what was going on outside, they did not want to 250 know. There was no reason to leave the safety of this artifical womb. 251 ######################### The Innkeeper ################################## 252 =====:::::=====:::::==<==:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::=====::::: 253 Piper: Perhaps Straxi might become involved in your adventure? With your 254 permission, of course. 255 It's great to be back, alive again! 256 Lurkin' Legamorph's 257 Not lurkin' any more! 258 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::===== 259 "Hell yes" I said, "Lets get it over with." 260 He dropped the X-1 at 20k feet, but his dive speed was once agian too slow 261 an the X-1 started to stall. I fought it with the control wheel for about five 262 hundred feet, and finally got her nose down. The moment we picked up speed I 263 fired all four rocket chambers in rapid sequence. We climbed at .88 Mach and 264 began to buffet, so I flipped the stabilizer switch and changed the setting two 265 degrees. We smoothed right out at 36k feet, I turned off two rocket chambers. 266 At 40k feet, we were still climbing at a speed of .92 mach...I noticed that 267 the faster I got,the smoother the ride. 268 Suddenly the mach needle began to fluctuate. It went up to .965 mach-then 269 went right off the scale!! I thought I was seeing things!! We were flying 270 Super-Sonic!! and it was as smooth as a baby's bottom: Grandma could be sittin 271 up here sipping lemonade...The guys in the NACA tracking van interrupted to 272 report that they what they tought sounded like a distant thunder: my sonic 273 boom! The firs one by an airplane ever heard on earth...It was estimated I 274 reached 1.07 mach 275 --Brig. Gen. Chuck Yeager 276 277 ------------->->-------This excerpt from The Pilot--------<-<--------------- 278 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuv 279 280 -II- 281 282 The demon child lay in the forest upon a damp bed of leaves. His eyes 283 were glazed and his weakling body covered in his mother's blood. The child 284 gasped for air, for his premature lungs could barely hold enough to 285 sustain him. He just lay there, near death and unmoving. 286 287 After an hour the small boy began to crawl. He crawled for hours and 288 hours, possessed by the will to live. He did not know who, or what he 289 was. All he knew was that he wanted to live. The tiny child reached the 290 edge of the wood and slumped to the ground, very close to death. He lay 291 on the side of a seldom travelled road, an 292 d slept.............. 293 294 zachariah 295 296 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuv 297 o\=<([v2v])>=/o 298 ,./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[] 299 bax: are you coming over today/sun/nov/9 300 ,./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[],./;'[] 301 this is a test... sorry guys but I needed to try something. 302 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 303 Could someone please list some local Portland Bulletin Boards? I am a new | 304 user and found this board listed on PC Magazines Reader Exchange Service. \ 305 No boards seem to list any others. Thanx EC 306 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||/ 307 end 308 309 The quick brown x etcetra etcera . . . 310 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 311 EC: Try CBBS/NW at 646 xxxx or 284 xxxx, or 3CPU at 246 xxxx. 312 ////////////////////////////////////////////////// 313 314 /\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\ 315 Or there is always, 284 xxxx, 636 xxxx, 253 xxxx, 775 xxxx, 232 xxxx, and 316 just tons of others... 317 \//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\/ 318 319 Re: the political discussion around line 110 320 Sorry, guys. This is *not* a democracy. It is a republic. The power resides 321 with our elected/appointed representatives. Our only power is to not re- 322 elect them if we don't like them. (note: democracies do *not* work. Just 323 becuase the majority thinks it is so doesn't MAKE it so. ) 325 ____11/10/86__________Leonard_JD 2446744.8858_________01:15:38_PST_________ 326 o\=<([v2v])>=/o 327 or 777 6377 or 253 1908 328 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 329 Leonard: Tell it to FES(Flat Earth Society) 27 Oxnard St., London 7E6 7W3D, 330 England, then, IF that's your conviction. Eh. Old chap. 331 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 332 ************************************************************* 333 The government has launched a two pronged attack on Oregon's 334 marijuana smokers. 335 336 By sending US troops to stop the flow of mariguana from outside 337 the country, along with the new federal crack down on the 338 Oregon marijuana industry, Oregon's dope smokers could be in 339 serious trouble. 340 341 We are basically facing the same situation we had with the oil 342 imbargo. There will be a crisis, real or imagined. Dealers will 343 hoard their supplies until the prices go up. Then they'll 344 unload at outrageous prices. The consumer screwed again. 345 346 So-so quality dope could end up going for $500 an ounce, or 347 more. It could force people to choose between giving up dope 348 all together or going to a cheaper, riskier, drug. 349 350 Which do you think most of them will choose? 351 352 Then again, this could be a blessing for some of us who have 353 a love/hate relationship with the cannabis weed anyway. It 354 could be real helpful for people who wanted to quit. 355 356 The easiest time to give up drugs is when you can't get any 357 anyway. With no decision to make, you're less likely to make 358 the wrong one. The only trick is to stay away once the bitch 359 goddess returns. 360 361 Stonehead 362 363 *********************************************************** 364 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 365 Leonard - Well said. I teach Economics at a high school once a week, and in 366 discussions of our economic system, our governmental system was talked about. 367 On inquiry, not one person in the classroom new what type of government we 368 had, including the regular teacher. 369 370 "Democracy is the continued delusion that more than half of the people are 371 right more than half of the time." -- Author unknown (to me) 372 373 Riskers - VOL is fine, Please list your colors - mine is black. Pick a 374 Saturday to start, these things usually go on for a while. French rules ? 375 Then nuclear ? I will still drink D.P., to keep my head clear. 376 377 All - Was everyone satisfied with the outcome of the elections ? I see that 378 the Anti abortion people lost out to reason and sanity. (Perhaps, since they 379 insist on calling pro choice to be pro abortion, we should call the the pro- 380 poverty, pro-child abuse, and pro-mental illness people, since what they are 381 advocating engenders all of the above at times.) 382 Grass was defeated. Though not a user, I think it should have passed. 383 The convention center is in. Maybe Wescon can come here one of these years. 384 Bob Koch beat Margaret Strachan. Good, in my opinion. We need to stop 385 inviting the homeless here. What about those of us who have homes ? D 386 not also have rights ? 387 Property tax limitations were all defeated. I do get tired of people with lots 388 of property, but little income (read mostly old people) feeling that those of 389 us with an income should support their services. Perhaps they don't have 390 children, but an uneducated person is a drain on all society, not just on 391 parents. 392 All the "Nook you lar" issues were voted down. Who says money can't buy 393 happiness. Consider the case of PGE. Wow. 394 Last, and probably least, the race to see who will be the invisible state 395 executive for the next four to eight years. Did any of you know that Vic 396 Atiyeh died two years ago, and they have been using a gient muppet for state 397 functions since ? So how effective can the Governor be? 398 399 (The preceeding were unpaid political opinions, and the writer encourages 400 reader response. In fact the writer would be delighted to have some reader 401 response. Please respond.) 402 403 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 404 ____11/10/86__________________JD 2446745.4334_________14:24:11_PST_________ 405 406 407 408 409 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 410 Stonehead: Want cheap weed? Move to Alaska. Or better yet, the Netherlands. 411 (Or is it Norway? Hmmm.) 412 413 414 415 Yes, it is true that we are a republic. However, it should be noted that 416 centralization is the other extreme to anarchy and should be avoided just the 417 same. And we were only formed as a republic with the understanding that a 418 'bill of rights' would be ammended to the Constiution to assure that the 419 central government would not have too much power. Remember, we had just gone 420 through a war with a government that was a great distance away. The people 421 didn't want to give the new government too much power. 422 423 424 I am glad that the nuclear measures failed. I am against having 425 hazardous substances in the area, but these measures were either too vague or 426 too pointed to be of much use. 427 428 429 Did anyone how many people voted against #8 (prohibits mandatory local 430 measured phone service)? Can anyone 431 tell me a reason that a person would vote this way (besides those that work 432 for the phone company...)? 433 434 435 *** STARPATH *** 436 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 437 438 Everything in moderation. 439 440 Including moderation. 441 442 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 443 444 cistop- Thank you for removing le twit from earlier. 445 446 [][][][][][][][][][] friar [][][][][][][][][][][] 447 448 end 449 450 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 451 Leonard, while it is true that the typical methode of removal from office 452 that the people are disatisfied with is via the election process, it is 453 far from the only way. There are several others that are as effective. 454 The next most common being via resignation of the individual themself. 455 This is a result of peer pressure. It is unsaid, but comes in the form of 456 get out or we'll kick you're butt out. So by leaving quietly they can 457 often resurface again elsewhere, or find a nice cushy job in the private 458 sector through the contacts they made while holding the public office. 459 The other methode of removal is brought on as a result of them not leaving 460 on their own, and is called a recall. When the screwup is big enough this 461 often occurs. But usually the individual is forced to resign before things 462 go that far. There is one other rather extreme way that has been used to 463 remove indiviuals from public office that someone has deemed should be done, 464 though usually it isn't because the individual has been doing things rather 465 badly. In fact usually it is just the opposite. The popularity of the individual 466 brings on the phsycotics who feel that they can make themself be heard by 467 killing the individual. But regardless of the emotion behind the action, it 468 does rather effectively remove them from office... (though there have been 469 a few cases now and then of a dead person holding office for various reasons. 470 Though of course it is usually short lived. Besides the office can get a bit 471 smelly after a few days... 472 Be that as it may, what we do elect are normally leaders, people who tell us 473 what they are going to have the people they appoint do (whether they actually 474 have them do it or not). We seldom have a say in regard to the individuals 475 that actually do the work. But then that is a part of why the system works 476 resonably well despite the continued movement of the leaders. Normally the 477 doers are left to do their jobs, and the leaders just stand around and try 478 to look impressive. 479 I do have a few disagreements with the setup though. I feel that the judicial 480 system could use some work. The revolving door that we have set up for the 481 criminals is one example of a system that is in dire need of realignment. 482 I also have a disagreement with the higher court appointment structure. One 483 indiviual can determine the appointments and thus the direction of legal 484 interpritation for many years to come, whether that is in the desire of 485 the majority or not. This tends to a lot of needless and time wasting battles 486 between the legislature and judicial branches (as if there weren't enough 487 battles with the executive branch already). I feel that the rule by agression 488 is not the best way. And I feel the same way about the court system. I know 489 that that flys in the face of what everyone is taught, about how great the 490 legal system we have is. But I say in response "Bull Shit!" it is not that 491 great. The only real winners are the lawers. But then I admit I'm prejudice 492 in the matter after having a lawer try to get me to sue someone for moneys 493 owed despite the fact that I could never recover anywhere near the cost it 494 would take to sue him, (if I got anything at all). I remember quit well the 495 mechinasations he used to try to get me mad at the other person so that I would 496 sue (so that of course he could take on the case). I wasn't mad, I was only 497 interested in my options I had legally. No, I do not agree that agression 498 is the best way to solve problems, and I think the current state of the 499 inssurance industry proves that there is something drasticlly wrong. 500 The one major change I would make is that the loser would have to pay *both* 501 lawer's fees as well as the court costs (instead of just court costs as it 502 is now.) This should cause those who like to sue a lot to think twice, and 503 give incentive to those being sued to fight it instead of just settling out 504 of court because it is cheaper, thus causing the people who like to sue to 505 take a third think at it, and so on. I think that one change would make 506 a significant change in the current problem area. 507 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ fred ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 508 Bard checked the console to see that he was on course. Then he sat 509 back and thought upon the irony of using all this technology to reach a 510 place where magic ruled. 511 That reminded him of a song.... 512 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 513 Code (words: Bob Kanefsky, music: Men of Harlech) 514 What's the use of incantations 515 Needing strange gesticulations, 516 Eyeballs of obscure crustaceans, 517 Toenails of a Toad? 518 519 What's the use of years of training, 520 Spells that don't work when it's raining, 521 Or because the moon is waning? 522 Better far is Code. 523 524 Code's the stuff we write now. 525 Code that's clean and tight now. 526 Run it through your Apple II 527 (Try not to stay up fixing it all night, now.) 528 529 Ancient mages, through the ages 530 Frequently were prone to vi'lent rages 531 Due to poring over pages 532 Filled with ink that glowed. 533 534 Oftentimes a poor old biddy 535 Found on her familiar kitty 536 Ticks and fleas, which (more's the pity) 537 Moved into her rugs. 538 539 Shamans using dung from cattle 540 With small insects must do battle 541 We have Code to serve us that'll 542 Not be fraught with bugs. 543 544 Shaman, save your tonic 545 Witch, your friends demonic, 546 We've the means, with our machines, 547 To make phantasms visual and sonic. 548 549 If you've stayed with code that's made with 550 Principled technique and not been played with 551 You won't need a wizard's aid with 552 User-friendly Code! 553 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 554 555 /\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\ 556 Maybe I can do a lot to clear up the mists of these laudatories. Our 557 constitution is set up with a regulated system of checks and balances. 558 Which is now a democratic system. With all people equals in the strength of 559 the vote. As Democritus would have wished, perhaps. Which is the single 560 best measure of a democracy that I can figure out. 561 It is a republic in that the vote of the people, their democracy, is handed 562 over to representatives. As per my rather luxurious dictionary. 563 Did you know that the Democratic-Republican Party, against a strong central 564 government, was renamed in 1828 to the Democratic Party? 565 It was. And this illustrates that democracies and republics are not 566 mutually exclusive. So, please, stop trying to show your enlightenment by 567 telling the Democrats or the Republicans here that they are wrong. Try to 568 incorporate their ideas. It works well here... 569 \//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\/ 570 571 /\ See these eyes so green? /\ 572 < > < > 573 \/ I can stare for a thousand years... \/ 574 575 *************************************************************** 576 Cannabis Sativa is the Bitch Goddess of tranquility and 577 confusion. She can be gentle or she can be cruel, but she 578 is a bitch. I love her anyway...but we must part. 579 580 Stonehead 581 582 ************************************************************** 583 o\=<([v2v])>=/o 584 ----------------------------------------just wanted to see how you guys are 585 doing...........ABDUL BRIAN........ 586 WHO CARES? 587 DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT 588 Hey dude, (mr. stonehead) 589 weed is a friend if ya want it to be, an enemy if ya want it to be. you choose. 590 it doesnt. it hasnt ever changed, still the same d-5-tetrahydracannibol, but 591 a different person..... 592 enjoy it if ya can, but if you make it drag you down, it can and will.... 593 later doughnutman 594 DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT 595 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 596 597 we do not have a true democracy. what we have is called a representative 598 democracy. 599 600 under the definition of a true democracy , the people vote on everything 601 and are the highest authority. 602 603 there is a big difference between a democracy and a representative democracy. 604 605 606 607 -wax 608 609 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 610 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklm 611 -III- 612 613 "Oh my lord Jesus" were the first words Sister Marianne 614 utherford spoke as she saw the still form on the roadside. At 615 first she thought him only a dead animal, but as she passed, she 616 noticed that there was no hair on the entire corpse. 617 Sister Marianne slammed on the brakes and pulled over to the 618 side. She took a blanket from the trunk of her car, with which to 619 p the dead child in. As the Sister neared, she prayed to God 620 to forgive the poor soul who had done this 621 The baby was a horrible sight to look upon. Blood and 622 grime covered his small body and a dark greenish fluid oozed from 623 his still-attached umbilical cord. The child's hands were 624 clenched into tiny fists. His face was contorted in an emotion 625 that he had not yet learned. 626 zachariah 627 628 qrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklm TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 628