1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 ************************* INSTALLED: 7 OCT 86 ************************ 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ***************************************************************** 19 20 +++++++++ at the top... so there... nah! +++++++++ fred +++++++++++++++ 21 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 22 Close, but not close enough.... Let's try to keep this disk clean from all 23 the garbage that everybody is getting used to..... 24 25 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 26 Now is this really me? I left no proof as to who I am. I'm getting tired of 27 these stupid border games. I wish my impostor would knock it off. I think 28 the best course of action is just to ignore them. 29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 30 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 31 The reason I left no proof was because I was trying to ignore you. This is 32 stupid, it's like I'm talking to myself. It is my turn to congratulate you, 33 you are doing a wonderful job, it is very entertaining to watch you make a 34 fool out of yourself. Thank god I know alot of the people here so all I have 35 to do is talk to them and tell them which entries are mine. 36 KWH: Proof: Remember what I was telling you about this morning when you had 37 to go?? Yes, it happened again, at least with LZ, and then MANY more times 38 with the likes of Eagles (Hotel Calif.), and alot of Boston... Proof enough? 39 Thought so.... 40 41 ++++++++++++++++Stilltheoneandonly+++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++ 42 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 43 The piper was alarmed but not terrified of the glowing apparition that 44 had risen from the glowing coals of his campfire. After all, he had 45 calhed it -- at least in a manner of speaking. His attention on the 46 flames had caused ~something~ to change. He had seen pictures within the 47 flames, had felt stirrings of contacts that had long been closed. He had 48 sensed the potential for tiny "bubbles" within the heat and had noticed 49 their growth when his attention was on them. One particular bubble had 50 drawn his attention by its growth rate and sat before him now like a bird 51 on a nest of fire, seemingly stable, but strange and not fully tested. 52 For long moments the piper stared warily, ready to flee if threatened. 53 The glowing globe sat quietly, its surface shimmering slightly with the 54 passing of a slight breeze. At last, convinced that the strange 55 apparition presented no immediate threat, the piper moved closer to 56 inspect the glowing globe. 57 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 58 Odd, I had the same problems as with the last entry -- about 3/4 of the 59 way through, the file acted as though it were done, leaving the entry 60 hanging. A quick edit spliced things, though. Oh, well.... 61 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 62 UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI 63 64 Well, at least some one on this board 65 appreciates me. I try to bring wisdom, 66 truth and light (and humour) to this 67 board and I get nothing but derision, 68 catcalls and paradoxes. (I'd like a 69 pair o'doxies though. 70 But not to worry, I am not going to 71 Seattle. Not yet at any rate. I'm 72 going to be around Backwater for a 73 while at any rate, and I'll still be 74 using an Atari to make my entries, because 75 it does annoy people with 80 and 120 76 column monitors. Now does anybody have 77 any better questions than "What came 78 first, the chicken or the egg?" Actuallyeveryone should know by now that the 79 egg came millions of years before the 80 evoulution of the modern chicken. 81 (That is IF you believe in evolution) 82 83 84 85 86 UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI 87 88 89 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * 90 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * 91 92 My my my, I'm so happy, I'm gonna' join the band 93 We're gonna' dance and sing in celebration, we're in the promised land. 94 95 Goodmorning all. 7":14 her on a gloomy wennesday morning. Three-dog-night 96 Aw, nuts. Anyway, ...came to Portland last night, and put on a good show. 97 The morning after, however, is not a pleasant thing when one has to go to work. 98 Ah, well, Persevere. Let's see here. Oh Ultimate Intelligence, if you can 99 answer any good question, then tell me the real names of all the people on the 100 board, and their aliases. No sweat for a big guy like you, right? 101 102 (god, this thing don't like me none 'tall.) 103 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * * 104 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * * 105 106 ultimate idiocy ultimate idiocy ultima 107 that's right !!! eggs indeed came out before the chicken!!! 108 Dario Casciato of Fred Meyer has confirmed that poultry farmer shipping eggs to them 109 would ship all the eggs their hens would lay. When the hens stopped producingeggs, 110 they would start shipping... what else ... stewing chicken 111 te idiocy ultimate idiocy 112 =+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+= 113 114 HEY,,, KMA!!!!! 115 116 117 ************* 118 *Triple Five* 119 * Was Here! * 120 ************* 121 122 =+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+= 123 124 125 What ever happened to the inn that I used to know? 126 What happened to the place that I used to show? 127 I realize that things often change and grow? 128 But to see what has happened truly is a blow? 129 130 Times here once were fun and great for all. 131 People were kind and well-met, we ha a ball. 132 Now children argue in the night, BW is in a stall. 133 I am afraid the wonder will take a fall. 134 135 The Lamenter. 136 137 lament no moo. . . . baby . . . . 138 cause . your lamentations sound too jewishhhhhhh. 139 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK 140 141 #-# Don't ask me to explain. But I noticed one of 142 my entries from months ago on what is now Disk B. Did 143 anyone remember it? It was the one that claimed ignorance 144 of sidebandng and said that everyone had packed their 145 bags and gone. It was also entered at least two months 146 ago, during the arguments between two fellows with a 147 common CB past. 148 I can't figure it out. Why did KWH post my 149 words up? Why? Can you tell me? #-# 150 151 152 Date: 06-Oct-86 23:01 PDT 153 From: Sysop Tony Anderson 154 Subj: InfoWorld Article 155 156 From Neil Shapiro, Sysop of the MAUG(tm) Forum: 157 158 Many of you may have read the article in INFOWORLD about how CompuServe 159 lawyer's contacted BBS Sysop Steven Sande. Most of INFOWORLD's article 160 was based on allegations made by Steven Sande and INFOWORLD printed these 161 allegations as truth. The allegations made are simply not true. The facts 162 of what happened are as follows: 163 164 1) CompuServe received a complaint from the author of a copyrighted 165 program that his program was being published by Sande's Mousetrap BBS without 166 the author's permission. The author also indicated that Sande had many other 167 non-Public Domain programs on his BBS. Note: Copyrighted program, not 168 a public-domain program. 169 170 2) CIS asked me to call the BBS and verify the author's complaint. 171 Sande's short bulletin (signed with his nom de plume of "Captain Mac") 172 specifically stated that Sande was going onto GEnie, CompuServe and Delphi 173 every week to download all of their files and that if you sent him $25 to 174 join his service there was no longer any need to join any of the networks. 175 His short bulletin did not state he was downloading public-domain files 176 but said all files and specifically stated commercial redistribution. 177 178 3) At the same point in time Sande left a message on MAUG(tm) also stating 179 that all files (not just public-domain) were being offered on his BBS. I 180 deleted that message and sent him an EMAIL reply explaining that many of 181 our files were copyrighted by authors and that it was unethical to take 182 such files without the authors' permission. 183 184 4) CIS' lawyers sent Sande a note which did NOT ask him to close his 185 BBS but simply asked that he cease the illegal acts above. 186 187 5) Sande left many messages on such networks as FidoNET claiming that 188 CIS had told him to close his BBS and that it was public-domain files 189 that were at issue. This is simply a misleading statement. CIS did not ask 190 him to close his board. The files at issue were copyrighted files which 191 CIS had received author complaints over. 192 193 6) It is important to keep in mind that Sande's BBS was a commercial 194 venture. It is also important to keep in mind that Sande specifically 195 stated in his short bulletin that he was making network compilations of 196 data available commercially. 197 198 7) CompuServe and MAUG are not attempting to "threaten" any BBS system. 199 BBS systems are the heart and soul of telecommunications. But the sysop of 200 a BBS must operate within certain ethical and legal guidelines. One of 201 these, as should be obvious, is that you do not use a copyrighted file without 202 the permission of the author. 203 ____10/08/86__________Leonard_JD 2446712.4755_________16:24:50_PDT_________ 204 WHO CARES AT ALL??? WHO GIVES A WHO'ENS WHO ABOUT ALL OF THIS CRAP?? 205 NONE OF IT CONCERNS BWMS!!! WHO IS THIS JERK WHO LEFT THIS CRAP ON HERE? 206 COME ON,, LETS JUST DELETE IT!!! 207 208 #####################################TRY############################ 209 210 211 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * 212 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * 213 214 Mr Darbon: Don't try and trick us with your chidish babblings to your self. 215 We all know that no one is mimicking your sadly imfamous name. Not even the 216 twits on this system would lower them selves to that level. So please I 217 ask, go talk to yourself on another system. Preferably on some system of 218 your own. We have no sympathy for children who make themselves unwanted. 219 Thereby creating a situation where no one will talk with them, and they 220 resort to talking with themselves. 221 222 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * * 223 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * * 224 225 226 (*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)- 227 MR 555 228 I'M HERE AND SET UP. AND JUST LIKE TODAYS DATE I'M HERE AND 10-8!! 229 ANY INSTRUCTION??? 230 231 232 ********************* 233 * The One Americian * 234 **** Triple Nine **** 235 * Was Bye * 236 *************** 237 238 (*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)-(*)- 239 240 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 241 Gee, let's check and see if that message actually was from KWH.... (It's so 242 nice to have two phone lines) Didn't think so.... So, I'll ignore it. Now 243 I don't need to leave proof, that is proof enough, for KWH anyway... 244 245 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon++++++++++++++++++++++++ 246 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 247 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 248 249 Dear all, 250 251 That pathetic attempt at trying to mimic my writing was so badly overdone 252 that it worries me to think someone believes I write like that. When I 253 flame someone I usually give all of the reasons. You did not even pick 254 someone who I would normally flame. In the future, if you would like to 255 mimic me, please do a better job. You might ask Ultimate Intelligence 256 just how I write. He seems to know everything. H**l, for all I know, 257 he might be writing this. 258 259 ...and it makes me wonder 260 Led Zeppelin 261 262 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 263 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 264 p.s. Sorry, Darbon but I don't remember what you're talking about. Sure, I'm 265 your friend, but the situation you mentioned does not come to memory. Give 266 me a call in the near future and maybe we can straighten things out. 267 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 268 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 269 WHO CARES? 270 I COULD tell you all the names (and alias's of all the users on this board, but 271 that would be an invasion of property. 272 but, if ALL of the users give me permission, I WILL do so. (When I have time, and room to do it in. 273 274 UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI 275 276 277 278 ********************************************************** 279 then, whom am I? 280 ************semilurkousmodious************kathyD****************** 281 282 283 ***************************************************************************** 284 The Appaloosa recognises the following: 285 ALL PERSONS ALIAS OR NOT MUST HAVE THE FREEDOM TO WRITE 286 WHAT THEY WISH EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THIS MIGHT BE INTERPRETED AS GARBAGE BY 287 SOME. IF ONE OF YOU WISH TO MIMIC ANOTHERS STYLE THIS SIMPLY SHOWS YOUR OWN 288 LACK OF ABILITY TO CREATE FOR YOURSELF. 289 THIS BBS HAS THIS IDEA WELL AT HAND OR NONE OF THE JUNK 290 ABOVE WOULD BE HERE. 291 KEEP IT UP OR ANY OTHER WAY. 292 ****************************APP**A**LL**OO**SA****************************** 293 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZoom... 294 CB jerks invading the BBS system? 295 A self-proclaimed Ultimate Intelligence who evades every question on which he 296 can be proven wrong? 297 Some flamer called KWH, who takes up prodigious amounts of board space with 298 his oversized entries and says nothing? 299 People constantly promising stories and never delivering? 300 Boring articles that have been reprinted on a minimum of four other boards 301 word for word, ad nauseum? 302 Disks and disks without any decent creative writing whatsoever? 303 304 How much lower can this board sink? 305 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZoom... 306 307 320 More lines. Since, we're on line 307. 308 309 A SIMPLE SOLUTION 310 All we are saying, 311 Is give peace a chance. 312 313 314 315 LET THERE BE PEACE ON EARTH 316 Let there be peace on Earth 317 And let it begin with me. 318 Let there be peace on Earth 319 The peace that was meant to be. 320 With so much to live for 321 So much that we can be. 322 Let us walk with each other 323 In perfect harmony. 324 325 Let peace begin with me 326 Let this be the moment now. 327 With every step I take 328 Let this be my solemn vow; 329 To take each moment 330 and live each moment 331 In peace eternally, 332 Let there be peace on Earth 333 And let it begin with me. 334 335 336 WHO CARES? 337 ********************************************************************************** 338 339 my heart rules my head but it 340 dosen't eliminate it.. 341 342 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 343 It was warm, but not hot. He could feel a faint warmth from it 344 radiating against his cheek in sharp contrast to the bite of the early 345 autumn breeze with its faint promise of ice. Somehow insubstantial with 346 the air of eternity about it also, it seemed to shimmer with swirls and 347 swatches of color, sometimes speeding past, then slowing and reversing in 348 their unceasing motion. Loosing his caution, the piper stepped closer to 349 examine this fascinating surface. 350 The art of scrying is ancient, indeed. Practicioners use a smooth, 351 often transparent or reflective surface and stare deep within to liberate 352 their conciousness from the bonds that normally bind them. Perhaps the 353 best known is the Gypsy fortune-teller who, staring into the crystal ball, 354 offers the subject of the reading a shrewd mix of practical psycology, 355 careful observation, and, perhaps, a few genuine glimpses into something 356 else (but rarely -- those who seek the future are usually the ones who 357 would recoil screaming if they could actually glimpse it). We, whose 358 perceptions have been blunted bye assaults on our senses, can only imagine 359 how unusual surfaces fascinated and held the attention of those who beheld 360 them for the first time. The piper, while not entirely unsophisticated, 361 (after all he had visited several technelogically-oriented world lines) 362 was a creature of his world. He was used to picking out movement within 363 the shadows of vegetation, finding food and danger in the subtle 364 competition within the rigid rules of his ecosystem. His first alarm 365 stilled by his curiosity, he stared, transfixed, at the unknown surface 366 before him and, enthralled, watched the surface seem to melt revealing 367 unknown spaces beyond. 368 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 369 Yuchh! dropped off twice this morning -- first at about 1/2 way, last at 370 3 lines before end. Here I thought I would forget the puzzle.... 371 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 372 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 373 WHO CARES? 374 IRV LEOPOLD DOES ......... 8990 SE MCLOUGHLIN BLVD. (503) 653-1300 ..... 375 376 OK . kathyD ... if you want to test me just give another go ahead ... 377 i'll give you a hint first .. i know your friends too, like Jake " the Rake" 378 Dare me again and I'll spill the bean. 379 UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI 380 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZarf! 381 LIKE HE SAID>>> WHO CARES?? 382 383 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 384 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 385 386 This really doesn't like my terminal. ...Intelligence, what are you 387 trying to prove by this. It is not feasable to know everything, unless one 388 D**N! It did it again. ...knowledge all the time. Unless you have an 389 RS232 port in your head, and are constantly hooked to some kind of info base, 390 it is not possible to know everything anyway. Since you persist in this, I 391 can only say that if you are truly as intelligent as you say, then you should 392 be able to find a better way to convey information than a challenge and all. 393 Sorry about the choppy message, but this thing keeps dropping me back out 394 of enter mode. "Hi" to Lady S. and Darbon and Adric and Piper (good writing) 395 and -most- of the general crowd around here... 396 397 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 398 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 399 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 400 401 KWH: I got your message. And hi to you too! 402 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 403 404 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 405 KWH: That last one was NOT me! I HATE HIM!!! HE'S MAKING ME CRAZY!! This 406 is probably going to get deleted but I don't care anymore! Why does somebody 407 want my identity? Arrrrgggghhhh!!! 408 Darbon2: I want to talk to you privately, please call Parrot as DARBON 2 409 or something like that, you can't use my name as I've been calling Parrot 410 under this alias since before you "arrived" here. My name there is DARBON !. 411 Leave me mail. 412 Piper: I'm glad to see you back posting full time, I missed your works. 413 Lady S.: Hi! What's going on on Friday? 414 All: The p.s. after KWH's entry is false, how do I know? Because I entered 415 it as it was being dictated to me by him over my other line. That's also 416 why it was right after my entry. 417 418 ++++++++++++Goingcrazy++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 419 p.s. Ooops, I meant that I entered the message from KWH, NOT the p.s.! 420 421 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 422 =+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+= 423 424 SORRY FOLKS BUT ALL BAD THINGS 425 DON'T COME FROM JUST US. 426 SOMEONE ELSE IS STANDIN BY!! 427 428 MR. 999 GO/SCRMLE/PRTO/+-1/HERE 429 430 431 ************* 432 *Triple Five* 433 * Was Here! * 434 ************* 435 436 =+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+= 437 438 ALL: GREETINGS FROM AN OUTSIDE "NEW-USER", TRANSMITTING FROM HOME BASE, TYPE OF COMPUTER -APPLE IIc`- 439 IN REVEIWING YOUR AD-LENGTH "LIST", WHAT ARE THE GENERAL INTERESTS OF THIS FGROUP? OR INDIVIDUALS? 440 ENOUGH OF THAT, ABOUT ME...I AM NEW TO THIS, THOUGH NOT NEW TO COMPUTING, A FORMER GRAD OF BENSON (FR-SO), O.C.H.S(JR), AND 441 AND FINALLY A TRUE GRAD FROM CLEVELAND, EX-MARINE AFTER 4 YEARS ACTIVE DUTY AS MOS 4063 442 WHICH IS A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER, TOOK THIS INTEREST AT BENSON THRU NOW. 443 I HAVE MANY DIFFERENT INTRESTS, MY MAIN HOBBIE IS GAMES, CARD TO BOARD TO ROLE-PLAYING TO SPORTS, ETC. 444 TILL LATER...........XANTHUS THE UNHEARD OF (TIL NOW)...OCT 9,1986 445 ************************XANTHUS************************************************* 446 YEA RIGHT WE BUY THAT!!!! 447 ########################## 448 449 450 doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut 451 please, the last two disks have been pure, unadulterated trash! but come to 452 think of it, i never liked the old story disks of say a yaer or so ago. 453 to whomsoever posed the querie as to if we shall just become names in an old 454 dusty archive disk, the answer is a hunderd yes's. if its this bad now (or is 'bad' the word?) imagine another year. 5 years 455 or 20 years. 17 billion years. 5.2393 * 10^32 years. soory. but yes, we shall. 456 ADRIC: if you posed the question on the 5th force, which is supposedly similar 457 to gravity, i do recall reading a small amount on that subject roughly 9 months to a year ago. 458 i seem to recall that this force is about 1/10 to 1/100 the force of gravity. something about it applying either exclusively 459 to or stronger to objects of homogenous composition. i.e.- a pure glass sphere 460 would theoretically fall a little faster than a glass and plastic sphere. i have 461 not heard a lot about it recently. try the readers guide to periodical lit., they could have a ref (but under WHAT?) 462 ULTIMATE INTELLIGENCE: OK, YOU ANSWERED 2 OF MY 8 OR 10 QUESTIONS. AND COP OUTS ON THOSE. (AND JUST WHO THE HELL WAS THAT 463 AWYER GUY TOO)? OK, new q's to be a'd: 464 465 1) statement: i recall hearing somewhere that in atoms, either the electrons (or some other sub-atomic particle) 466 can either be determined to be moving at a certain speed, OR their location can be determined, BUT NOT BOTH AT ONCE by 467 present mortal knowledge. do tell, u.i., either produce a formula, a verbal explaination that can be written in mathematical 468 notation (math is the only TRUE language, if it can even claim such!), or cop out on that one. 469 470 2) after reading GOEDEL, ESCHER, BACH: THE ETERNAL GOLDEN BRAID (which is no small task, i highly recommend it for al 471 people interested in paradoxes or loops or in being totally blown away!), i have come across a hard to pin down 472 thereom in number theory, actually set theory, which i am having problems 473 rationalizing. please help. i shall not state the theory itself, known as "goedel's incompleteness theorem", (excuse the 474 'umlaut-e' being expressed as "oe" but ascii has its limitations.), since you already know it yourself. if you would like 475 for me to inform other patrons, so i shall. but could you provide me either a definite proof in math terms (i.e.- sss0=ss0+ 476 s0 means 3=2+1 but youll need much more than that!) either FOR or AGAINST the theorem. 477 if you do either, may i have the compyrights, for either bit of knowledge will make the revealer very, very famous! 478 479 3) what would one see if one was a)transparent and b)was able to place two infinitely long mirrors (with infinite reflection 480 capacities) together absolutely parrallel and with the reflective surfaces facing each other? 481 482 thanks for your help, 483 the doughnut man 484 doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut-doughnut 485 p.s. for number 3- and what if said person stood between the two mirrors and looked into them, what would he see? 486 dm 487 =+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+= 488 489 I'LL SAY IT ONCE> 490 CUT OUT ALL OF THE CHATTER WITH 491 THIS UI JERK!!! 492 493 494 ************* 495 *Triple Five* 496 * Was Here! * 497 ************* 498 499 =+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+==+-+= 500 501 RTB O.K. 502 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 503 UI: In "Don't Stand So Close TO Me" by the Police (aka Sting), what book 504 by Nabakough (sp?) and who is the guy, and how does he relate to the song? 505 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 506 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZoom... 507 Triple Five: Shut the hell up. 508 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAP!!! 509 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 510 Triple Five: I agree with ZZZoom... What right have *YOU* (of all people) to 511 tell the users of this system who to talk to and what to say? This is *NOT* 512 your board and you are not welcome here so why don't you just go away? 513 514 p.s. I'm ignoring my double, that's why no proof. 515 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 516 HEY DARBON: READ THE OPENING MESSAGES OF THE OWNER OF THE SYSTEM:IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT YE 517 T. UNLESS YOU'RE A PART OWNER:OR THE OWNER OF THE OWNER:YOU AND ZZZZOOMMMM BETTER SHUT 518 UP: 519 {+|+} <545> 861010^1529 520 WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP EGGING ON THE MORON WHO CALLS HIMSELF UI? 521 DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT YOU EVIDENCE YOUR OWN FOOLISHNESS BY DOING SO? 522 (A LURKER) 523 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 524 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 525 526 Dear All, 527 528 This has gone far enough. Don't you know that when you argue with 529 fools, it is hard for the onlookers to tell the difference. This has become 530 one step above grafitti, and only because you type it in with a complicated 531 peice of machinery. Why not let anyone say whatever they like, and if you 532 don 533 (it just doesn't like me) ...are saying. Why don't you people start to act 534 e the intelligent people band together and quit name-calling? This isn't 535 Allow me to start over, as this machine keeps dropping key parts to what I 536 am saying. Don't perpetuate the garbage around here by paying attention. 537 Instead, praise and critique what actually has content here. This is the only 538 way that this mess will ever be cleared up. Take the garbage to a board that 539 doesn't have to change the disks all the time. The remaining conversation 540 and stories might not fill the disk so quickly, but it will once again become 541 worth calling. For all who may be offended, remember, if you wish to 542 contribute to this board, do so in a positive manner, and all will be well 543 again. Now, to see if anyone listens... 544 545 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * * 546 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * * 547 548 ____10/10/86__________________JD 2446714.6389_________20:20:34_PDT_________ 549 oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo 550 Emu - I believe that's Nabokov. And don't you luv them hearts?!? 551 cough - cough so 552 oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo oo -oo 553 SIGH, THE PERSON WHO USED MY NAME (ULTIMATE INTELLIGENCE) WILL BE "PUN" I 554 SHED IN AN APPROPRIATE FASHION. I AM 555 NO LONGER ANSWERING QUESTIONS BECAUSE 556 ALL THE QUESTIONS ASKED ARE EITHER 557 PARADOXICAL IN NATURE OR REQUIRE THE 558 USE OF LANGUAGE, CONCEPTS, AND SYMBOLOGY THAT DOES NOT AS YET EXIST ON EARTH. 559 I OFFERED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN THE 560 HOPES THAT PEOPLE WOULD ASK SILLY 561 QUESTIONS, SO THAT I COULD GIVE THEM 562 HUMOROUS ANSWERS. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO... 563 INSTEAD I GET GARBAGE AND INSULTS. 564 I AM TEMPTED TO GO AHEAD AND LET THE 565 BOSS GO AHEAD AND VAPORIZE THE PLANET. 566 BUT, THAT WOULD DESTROY ALL THE CATS, 567 DOLPHINS, AND OTHER INTELLIGENT LIFE 568 FORMS FOUND ON THIS MOULDERING FUNG 569 (AHEM, DUNG)HEAP OF A PLANET. HOW 570 THE FELINE RACE EVER ENDED UP HERE IS 571 A MYSTERY EVEN TO ME... 572 573 574 UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI U 575 101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 576 MR. INTELLIGENCE, 577 578 SILLY QUESTIONS? WE WANT ANSWERS TO ALL OUR LIFELONG WOES... NOT HUMEROUS 579 GARBAGE. ALLRIGHT, WHAT IS MY NAME (FOR REAL). I GIVE YOU MY LEAVE TO 580 EXPOSE IT TO THE WORLD. AND UI, TELL THE BOSS HI FOR ME. 581 582 BILLY BOMNER 583 584 101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101 585 586 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * 587 * * * * * * * * * 10:50-Nothing to say. * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * 588 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** ** * * * * 589 590 ^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^ 591 KEEPER OF SOULS: I am not sure of the meanings of this name. Which is in 592 consistence with this system in general. For instance, why is it named BWMS? 593 Why did you choose the name you have? If you get to ask me direct questions, 594 I get to ask one right back. Whose souls are in your care? If I can pry even 595 further, why are they in your care in particular? 596 ^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^><^> Seth <^><^><^><^ 597 598 UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI 599 BILLY BOMNER: ALRIGHT, I WILL REVEAL 600 YOUR NAME, IT TAKES A GREAT DEAL OF 601 SOUL SEARCHING ON MY PART BUT I HAVE 602 DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND REVEAL YOUR 603 "TRUE" NAME TO THE WORLD. YOUR NAME IS TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 603