1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 ************************ INSTALLED: 4 OCT 86 ************************* 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 no restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain thepright to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 to leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 The line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************************* 19 20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * 21 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * 22 23 I'll be da**ed. I got the top! Hi all. Well, ultimate intelligence, I 24 am dying to hear your answers to the questions that were posed. Come on and 25 post the answers. I'm sure we would all like to know. A "hi" to Lady S. 26 (read your message on the "Parrot") and Adrick, and Darbon, And... 27 28 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * * 29 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 30 31 SO HOW YA DOIN, FREDDY??? 32 Ultimate Intelligence: I believe you need to have a checkup. 33 The *correct* answer to "what happens when an irresistable force meets an 34 immovable object" is that they cannot exist simultaneously! (by definition). 35 ____10/04/86__________Leonard_JD 2446708.3441_________13:15:34_PDT_________ 36 Hi I Have Started My Own BBS. It Is 37 Called The Game Palace. It is Opened 38 From 11:00pm - 6:30am. Mon-Fri. 39 My Line Is: 283-xxxx. Please Call only 40 During These Times Because It Ties Up 41 The Phone If You Don't. To Become 42 A Validated User Please Fill Out An 43 Application Form. Thankyou 44 45 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 46 47 hiya, to KWH, 48 not that I've met you....but as I understand it, you 49 know a little of me.... so, how are you...? As an incidental, I would like to 50 point out that the name is Adric, no K.But, then again, maybe you were trying 51 to make a point as I was mis-lettering your name... I'm sorry about that, 52 but I hope I've got it right now..... 53 54 To all who have any interest, Elforson's tale is developing 55 well... he has told me much...I think I will tell the tale in third person 56 present.. 57 58 Well, I'm only three levels from the surface, and the 'bot that 59 was after me has stopped.It stopped at the entrance to the fifth level, where 60 there was a pulsed magnetic field as a door marker.It couldn't pass.I'm three 61 rooms away from a supercore computer unit... and I'd like to try to talk to it, 62 and find out what the hell this place is, and why there is such a temporal 63 anomaly in this local space... 64 65 I've got to go now, it's accepted an interface with my mind.. 66 67 68 69 see ya soon, 70 Adric 71 WHO CARES? 72 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*Guru of Bliss*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* 73 Never trust a person who demands attention - Hell - never trust a person who demands 74 *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* 75 ____10/04/86__________________JD 2446708.5956_________19:17:44_PDT_________ 76 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * [ * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * 77 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * 78 79 Oh Kritic, I re-wrote the story I posted here on 80 the parrot, and if you have access to the Blue Room you might want to take a 81 look at it. 82 Adric, I'm sorry about your name. It was not a demonstration of the mis- 83 spelling of my name, but the spelling I saw for your name once. I may be wrong 84 but I think that's what happened. Well, so we haven't met. If you are truly a 85 good friend of Lady S. it could happen. I'm not all that disagreeable, at 86 least according to most... (the ones that matter, anyway) 87 88 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 89 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * just when you thought I was predictable * * 90 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * KWH * * * * * 91 92 Well, there wasn't enough room when I 93 called last night to post the answers to 94 the questions that were posed, but thereis now, so here gos!: 95 96 97 How long until WWIII in definite time 98 units? 99 A: If Reagan continues om his present 100 course in South Amerrica, WWIII will 101 certainly start within 2 years. I am 102 trying to prevent this from occuring 103 of course, but Reagan's brain is so 104 feeble that it is hard to influence. 105 106 107 Q: When and how did the Universe start? 108 A: I know the answer to this, for I 109 was there at the time, however it is 110 difficult to answer this question in 111 english in this time period as the 112 present language does not as yet containing the nessacary vocabulary. It does 113 have something to do with dimensional 114 overlapping and temporal feedback, but 115 this is such a minor part of the whole 116 phenomon that I hesitate to mention them. 117 However we all know when the big bang 118 took place, but that actually took 119 place billions of years after the 120 universe was created----And you thought 121 I was going to say "42". The concept 122 of how the universe came into being is 123 such an advanced concept, that trying 124 to describe it to present day human 125 beings, would be like explaining the 126 theory of relativity to oysters. 127 128 129 That's all I have time for now, I will 130 answer more of the questions soon... 131 132 133 Ultimate Intelligence 134 135 136 help 137 sysop please help 138 exit 139 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 140 gh, here goes nothing again. This is just a brute force delay to 141 (hopefully) let me send something to BW. I just don't know what I'm 142 g wrong -- it's gotta be something really obvious. Oh, well, if 143 s works, it'll do 'till I can mess with something better... 144 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 145 Yeeks, looks like I gotta slam in a BIG delay. Right now, it's running 146 through an empty loop 100,000 times and seems to drop off after the . 147 At least it looks doable. 148 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 149 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 150 LEFTY-- IT WAS GRATE TO SEE YA. WE 151 SHOULD OUTTA DO IT AGAIN SOMETIME. 152 NEXT TIME, MAYBE WE OUTTA SPEND 153 MORE TIME BEING SOSHAL AND LESS 154 TIME TRYIN TO PLAY A CAPER.FINGERS 155 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 156 1010101010101010101010101010101010101010 157 DEAR MR. INTELLIGENCE, 158 159 IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET TO INFINITY IF YOU 160 TRAVEL FOREVER? 161 162 1010101010101010101010101010101010101010 163 164 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 165 Oh I love that last question! Come on UI, answer that! Of course, what is 166 signified with "Travel Forever"? What is forever? If infinity is something 167 where all things are possible wouldn't it be possible to eventually reach 168 infinity? Impossible you say? Loop back to theory of Infinity = reality 169 (if you'd call it that) where all things are possible. Loop, loop, error, 170 error, click. Anyways, on to other things. 171 Piper: Almost! A few more milli-seconds and it 172 will be perfect! (hit CR too soon, damn) 173 174 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 175 {+|+} <196> 861005^0801 176 WELL... Travel forever and you do reach 177 infinity? Interesting concept to say 178 the least. The problem with English is 179 that it is possible to say plausible 180 sounding statements that are actually 181 total and complete non sense. 182 183 Finite Intelligence 184 185 186 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 187 Now now.... I never said it was possible. I was merely extending someone 188 else's thoughts on the matter. But I've heard so many times that anything 189 is possible when dealing with/around infinity. Why rule out one impossibility? 190 Anyway. I have no time. I must go. 191 192 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 193 DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT 194 FINITE INTELLIGENCE: 195 QUITE RIGHT! "TRAVELING FOREVER" IN ORDER TO REACH INFINITY IS QUITE LIKE COMPARING 196 APPLES AND ORANGES. IN MY VIEW OF INFINITY ANYWAY. LATER 197 DOUGHNUT MAN 198 DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT-DOUGHNUT 199 ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< 200 You guys talk about infinity as though there were only one. What about second 201 and third order infinities? That could change your travel time, depending on 202 which level is used, ya know? 203 ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< 204 Bye! B-) 205 206 Piper: While I don't know C I can give you some 8085 ASM code that works. 207 Or for a *real* brute force approach, have it send a line and then wait for 208 you to hit a key before sending the next one. Crude, but effective. 209 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 210 It seems that the only questions you agree will stump UI are paradoxes. Now 211 isn't that strange... 212 213 WHO CARES? 214 215 Hey, UI: 216 1) What came first, the chicken or the egg? 217 2) What is the difference between a duck? 218 -Enjoy- 219 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 220 That's right, the party's back! 221 Hide your valuables! 222 Lock your refrigerator! 223 Forget about it! 224 ... 225 . 226 A paradox cannot trick UI., because it is a paradox, and therefore is unanswerable. (maybe...) 227 228 Even I could figure out what the difference between a duck is. Look at the label in his pants 229 , divide it by pi, find the square root and divide by two. That should, unless I am in normal mode, 230 tell you this difference is... 231 232 233 I HAVE MISSED SOOOOO MUCH! 234 235 And that puts me in a state of sadness. 236 Oh well, at least life goes on, and I can continue in my quest to meet new interesting people 237 via this cumbersome medium called a terminal... 238 239 *** STARPATH *** 240 241 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 242 Isn't amazing how expediency can warp priciples? It looks like this 243 strange combination of a shell script and a filter might work. It's not 244 pretty, not elegant, and I've about given up on trying to read and write 245 to the same device. If this hasn't dropped any characters (it's spinning 246 30,000 iterations of an empty loop for each carriagE return and 4,000 247 iterations between each character) I'm going to call it good on 248 communications software -- at least for a while. Its been so long since I 249 tried my hand at a story, I don't know quite how to begin. Well, next 250 time... 251 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 252 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ October 5, 1986 ++ Milchar 253 254 If you want the answers to questions like, "Where are we?", "When are we?", 255 and "What are we made of?" Take courses in Physics or Cosmology. To quote 256 a few of my reading materials from those courses... 257 258 WHERE ARE WE: "It is rather like standing on an infinite chequerboard: you 259 can give meaning to how far you are from the nearest corner of a square, but 260 your overall position on the board is a meaningless concept." 261 262 WHEN ARE WE: "The world [Universe] was created with time, and not in time." 263 264 WHAT ARE WE MADE OF: "Matter" 265 266 If this does interest you, seriously, physics is a frontier science these days 267 and I suggest you take a few courses and see what they're like. Cosmology 268 also. Enjoy yourselves, 269 270 Idelle. 271 272 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 273 Piper: May I be the first to congratulate you on your recent success at using 274 a combination of tools to accomplish a goal. I gather that you are now 275 using a UN*X box of some sort; perhaps a TEK4401 (is that the number?) 276 AI box? Anyway, many utilities, when trying to read and write to the 277 same /dev will spawn two process: one to read, the other to write; I've 278 hacked at the problem and have something that does do both without spawning 279 extra children, but it's kinda flakey. Anyway, we all hope to see more 280 of you and your creativity in the near future... 281 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 282 283 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * K * H * * * * * 284 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * 285 286 Nowadays, modems are convenient peripherals 287 that you can get along with your new MS-DOS machine. There is little more 288 to it. Even Atari had the nerve to make their modems so flaky that 289 people not dedicated couldn't use them. Instead of those fun filled days 290 of yesteryear, we have repoutable companies churning out modems at a slim 291 thirty dollar price tag. So any indedicated jerk can technically screw 292 up any public system. 293 I don't know what sidebanding is. It strikes me as a method to 294 hide or scramble a signal, such that it would have to be known about in 295 advance to be heard. And -that- strikes me as what a lot of systems have 296 done. The Bit Bucket is not gone, not really. Because, most likely, there 297 is still going to be a collection of friends with Unix access. I have 298 heard that same idea thrown around about all the other Unix boards now 299 operating in town. Not public. Only friends. And new friends are made on 300 the public systems, if necessary. 301 After returning from a long trip, I was sort of stunned to find 302 that three quarters of all the old BWMS users had faded away. Stopped 303 wasting their eraly mornings or late nights on it. There are only a few 304 reasons for this. But I -don't- want to get into an argument over who is 305 to blame for the overall sad state of affairs. Its just true that Piper 306 isn't going to read this. Pam probably won't. Neither will most of the 307 people who made this system an exception to the rule. 308 The question that has been going through my mind lately, is "What 309 is going to happen to BackWater now? What about the people I met there? 310 Are we just going to fade into squalid files in those Archives?" 311 If only I had the answer. For now, the only thing I can do is 312 enjoy what writing (Of the elder style, not the recent ultraverbose and 313 overemotional sort that was pioneered by J. Silverman, and D. S. Knight. 314 As a way to preserve an old feeling. At least till it picks up again. 315 If it ever does. End of diatribe, sorry for the length... 316 317 318 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * W * * * * * * 319 320 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 321 Piper: Glad to see you back in operation, let's get those stories rolling 322 man! 323 324 +++++++++++theone,theonly++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++ 325 MR INTELIGENCE.... YOOHOO... WHERE ARE YOU? MABEY HE WAS NOT AS INTELLIGENT 326 AS HE THOUGHT!!! 327 328 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 329 330 /\*/\ THE DARK ONE /\*/\ 331 332 (GEE, MY INFINITY QUESTION SURE SPARKED A FLURY OF ACTIVITY.) 333 10101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010101010 334 335 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 336 The stillness of the deep forest holds a tangible presence of its very 337 own. It is a thickness in the air, a feeling that sound ought not to 338 exist, and, shold it occur, it should have the decency to die swiftly. In 339 a deep forest, underbrush is nearly absent. Only the repeating trunks of 340 huge trees column upward through the midday twilight; at night the 341 darkness is absolute. Some of this feeling permeates even the rare 342 clearings where phe death of a titan has torn a small temporary clearing 343 in the forest depths, a place where a man hungering for the sight of the 344 skies might camp. 345 Here, on a natural stage, playing to the still ranks of giantw, our 346 player holds center stage. The piper was not a student of magic; he 347 lacked the attention to detail and devotion to study for its own sake that 348 is necessary for consistent success in this most difficult of all arts. 349 On the few times that he had attempted some cantrip or another (for being 350 a man of discretion, he sometimes observed the workings of others and 351 might attempt some working that he felt he understood), he had sometimes 352 met with noteable success and sometimes abject failure. A chance stranger 353 passing by the clearing might have difficulty in determining whichcategory this evenigsds 354 spectacle of a ten foot glowing globe rising out of a campfire would argue 355 for a success, while the alarm on the piper's face would argue for a 356 failure. 357 .pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 358 Hmm, I guess it works OK. I got dropped once and have seen some garbage 359 on this end (I suspect that it's my line that's noisy) but easier than 360 typing in direct. 361 Emu -- Yes, the new box is a Tek 4404. It's not UNIX, but a modular O/S 362 thats similar in style (kind of a "poor man's UNIX). The problem I run 363 into is that I've gotta use the 'open()' call to open a file (the modem 364 port is addressed as a file, /dev/comm) for both read and write. I keep 365 messing up and bombing out. With limited time, I really don't feel like 366 sorting this out right now, it'll be a good puzzle for later. 367 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 368 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 369 fingers. i enjoyed seeing youse again 370 too. next time thou, we shuold pick 371 somes place without all dose flatfootes 372 around. Dey sure know how to take de 373 starch outta a party. until next time 374 lefty. 375 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 376 hey ***** w * * * * 377 hwhat's so flaky about non-ms dos mac 378 hine? any jerk can technically screw 379 your pubic system 380 down with unix !!!!!!!!!!!!! 381 down with itty-bitty 382 machine 383 flakey K 384 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>xxxxxxxx 385 Piper: Good entry. Please try to avoid using 'permeate' though. I have seen 386 this one misused, abused and overused by all self-proclaimed writers and it 387 only throws a shadow of amateurishness over your otherwise interesting entry. 388 389 UI: If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around, does it make a sound? 390 Forgive my translation, but I don't feel like looking up the original in 391 Plato. 392 -Enjoy- 393 QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ 394 ******************** 395 396 The linears are hot the PTT finger is itchy and we are on our way 397 to a 12,000 foot dump site... 398 It's time to levitate and say.... 399 400 401 402 Beeeeeeeeeeeeemmmmm Babba Douche!!!!!! 403 404 405 406 ******************* 407 """"""" 408 idelle: 409 the question now is what is " matter" 410 don't give me the physic definition of matter, because it will get us to an endless cycle. 411 412 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 413 Phantom: Hi again, remember my idea about the new kind of bbs? Well, that 414 should prove who is who.... 415 All: Does anybody know the commie disconnect sequence?? Could you please 416 incorporating it? We may get rid of these twits yet!! (I believe they/he 417 is using a C-64) 418 419 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Darbon+++++++++++++++++++++++++ 420 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 421 422 to KWH: I've not been on the Backwater as lond as you, but, 423 bot, do I know what you mean!!!!As to all you say, from what I can tell, 424 (Based on the ones I've met so far..) all her friends are interesting intelligent and a few other good things.So, 425 I would guess that you're O.K. by any reasonable standards!!!!I would like to 426 inquire for an honest answer... does my writing qualify under the catagory 427 you named...? 428 429 To Idelle, 430 You are correct.There are a few good courses out there, 431 one at Benson's TAG night school.I took it last year, and have gained quite a 432 bit from it all.It was called particle physics and cosmology.We also covered 433 General and Special Relativity theories, and the corollaries & additions 434 such as the Heisenburg Uncertanty Principle and Lohhemann's Contraction 435 Theorem.... 436 437 All very worth taking for knowledge, and/or interest... 438 Incidentally, anyone out there heard any more abut the guy who claims the 439 existance of a fifth force, and/or his experiments relating to gravity etc.... 440 ??? 441 442 Tomorrow Elforson will finish talking to me, and hopefully I can 443 write some of it up.... 444 445 Boy, that Central Core is messed up!I got no useful info 446 from it, though it did try to help... I remember the computer the doctor 447 dealt with that thought it was him, but that one seems healthy compared to 448 this puppy!The temporal anomaly around here is getting more aggravated, as if 449 450 it were being generated by something.A little while ago a whole section under 451 went a total kinetic freeze, at the quark/antiquark squark neutrino level. 452 Scared me spitless, to see half a teminal screen freeze in mid-scroll, along 453 with one service 'bot, and, boy, when that efffect stopped, that vision screen 454 blew!!! 455 456 I think it was some kind of time-wind...but I can't be sure... 457 gotta go now, hopefully my tachyon transmission will reach the TARDIS soon.. 458 459 Adric. 460 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 461 *************************************************************************** 462 TO: * * * K W H * * * 463 Actually, many of the "oldtimers" haven't gone for good, they are still 464 around, but even they can't continue to produce massive quanties of words 465 day in and day out. The mind needs time to rest as does the soul. See the 466 previous messages, piper is here, Pam though in lurk mode for sometime still 467 looks in, as does kathy and bard, and a number of others. We aren't gone, 468 only recharging the batteries for greater and better times. 469 *************************************************************************** 470 KWH: SIDEBANDING IS BEST COMPARED WITH 1200 BAUD MODEMS. IT'S A MUCH MORE 471 EFFICIENT MEANS OF TRANSMISSION, BUT IS NOT RECEIVABLE ON THE OLD EQUIPMENT 472 (THOUGH AS WITH 1200 BAUD, IT CAN TALK TO THE OLD EQUIPMENT). 473 *********************THE PHANTOM OF BACKWATER****************************** 474 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ 475 OH BOY !!! 476 ][][][][][][][][][]P]P}p]p]p]]p]p}PpPp]]]pPpppppppppppPp 477 I AM THE ANTI-CHRIST 478 I AM THE ANTI-CHRIST 479 DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT 480 BUT I KNOW HOW TO GET IT 481 I WANNA DESTROY, FALSIFY AND I.. 482 I WANNA BE ANARCHY. 483 484 ANARCHY IN THE U.K. 485 IT'S COMING SOMETIME 486 I MIGHT BE 487 I'M NEVER ON TIME 488 STOP A TRAFFIC LINE... 489 490 SEX PISTOLS 491 492 PP 493 pPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpP 494 I have just found out (thru an article in Infoworld) that not only 495 does CIS consider "the entire contents of its service copyrighted", but 496 that it is going after BBS Sysops for posting public domain programs 497 downloaded from CIS. 498 I do *not* agree with this policy. I post programs and data here to 499 make them available to as wide an audience as possible. CIS says that BBS 500 sysops should obtain material directly from the authors. 501 I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't have the time to 502 respond to the number of requests that would involve. And since the 503 *entire* service is copyrighted, does that mean that I can't use CIS to 504 transfer the files to the BBS operators? If so, neither I nor they could 505 afford it! 506 I might also add that I find it odd that CIS claims copyright on 507 *my* material! The service agreement covers quite a few things but I don't 508 recall signing away my rights under copyright law!!! 509 Until and unless I am told differently, I wish to state that 510 anything I have placed in the Data Libraries may be used freely for any 511 non-commercial purpose. It may also be used for commercial uses as long as 512 it is not being sold as part of a product (it may be included for free 513 however). I *encourage* re-posting of my material. 514 Leonard Erickson 515 516 517 cc: M100SIG 518 CIS Customer Service 519 Applephilia BBS 520 CBBS/NW 521 Backwater Message System 522 ____10/06/86__________Leonard_JD 2446710.6970_________21:43:39_PDT_________ 523 UI UI YUI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI[ UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI 524 525 Well folks, I have been quite busy observing a supernova about half a 526 billion light years away. I had to 527 move 2 populated planets into orbit 528 around another more stable star. Took 529 me quite a while too, as one of the 530 planets is populated by a very telepathically powerful race of beings 531 who kibitzes me the entire time I was 532 shifting their planet through a charged vacumn embodiment. "careful 533 there, you're shaking the china" that 534 sort of complaining. 535 I don't know why I bother, but I 536 do have a weakness for helpless creatures. 537 Let's have some REAL questions for a 538 change and less of that adolescent 539 paradoxical drivel "Can God create a 540 stone too heavy for himself to lift?" 541 Sheeeeesh!! 542 543 Ultimate Intelligence 544 545 *Oh, by the way, to the person who askedwhat kind of entity I am, well, 546 I am a Pooka. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls. 547 548 UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI UI 549 550 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- PIPER: 551 HEY YOU DO SMALLTALK-80 I HAVE A BBS FOR IT 552 PRINCE DRAGON 553 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. 554 HEY UI, KNOW HOW TO TAKE A CLUE? WHICH DIRECTION IS "UP"? HOW COLD IS 555 YOUR TOILET BOWL WATER AT 4:27 IN THE MORNING? [*-><-*] 556 ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 557 The above is a non-sequitar. Everyone should know that Any Ultimate 558 Intelligence does not need such appliances as toilet bowls and water 559 heaters. With the mere utterance of a wish, they can heat the water of 560 one thousand worlds. By simply stating a new condition, they can change 561 any biological situation to suit them. Or they can s**t in their pants 562 if they choose. Simpletons like Doughnut Hole Man and Keeper of Fools/ 563 Souls just don't realize that Ulimate means ULTIMATE. There is no other 564 form of higher intelligence than that which is ultimate. All powerful 565 creatures who wish to bestow their experience and intelligence should be 566 welcomed with open arms, not toilet paper and cat-calls. This debate has 567 gone on long enough. The Ultimate Intelligence is moving on to Seattle, 568 where it hopes to be more appreciated than it was here in this cloudy 569 twit-infested commodore 64 ruled message system known as backwater. It 570 is not the board itself, UI wished to impart, but the users whom have 571 seen it necessary to take great dives in brain cell count everytime it 572 appears. Seattle will be good. The air is fresh, and the football team 573 is 4-1. The Utimate Intelligence likes pro football. You see he never 574 was allowed to play on the Ultimate Football Team back at U of K (that's 575 the Ultimate of Kansas bulldogs) because of his poor eyesite. So Back- 576 water, you had your chance to get some questions answered and bask in 577 the light of a truly intelligent being. Tough Tea Bags now. 578 579 I. C. Rears. 580 Utimate Lawyers at Large 581 1345 N. Pliadese 582 The Universe, 45178 583 584 Representing client : The Ultimate Intelligence 585 ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 586 587 Down with unix. Down with technology. Give me my 6502. And how does the saying go? I'll destoy the universe. Yes, that's 588 right folks, it's time for the INSULT WHAT YOU CAN'T HAVE comedy hour. Only this is a comedy of errors. The past few 589 weeks have seen a dramatic rise in blatent attempts at crashing various systems around town. The new-world Hacker is 590 far from dead, he has only grown younger. The age of $200 telecommunications systems is upon us. Those who have come 591 before and paid certain dues must now make room for those who arrive on the scene later, don't pay quite as many dues, 592 and are handed, figuratively speaking, their computers and modems on a silver platter. Talk with 10 middle/high school 593 age students, and 3-5, depending on the social/economic levels of the area, will tell you they have either a computer at 594 home for their own use, one or both of their parents have a computer they can use, or other relatives/best friends have 595 computers they get constant access to. We must all realize just what is happening here. As a hypothetical, imagine 596 yourself at a cocktail party, or some similar get-together where you are discussing the latest advances in microchip 597 technology, or the latest faux-pas by the current administration, or any other mature subject matter. Suddenly, and 598 with a loud crash, dozens of children swarm into the room, boasting of their mastery over the butler/doorman, speaking 599 in loud voices, bumping into patrons, knocking over vases, interrupting conversations, interjecting talk of HEAVY METAL 600 and DEVIL WORSHIP and TEEN LUST ad nauseum, and creating a general commotion never before experienced in such a normally 601 mature and intelligent setting. I just described for you in slightly more colorful terms what has happened when children 602 are given the means and the ways of breaking into a formerly adult-only situation. The only possible ending to this 603 situation is chaotic. What are we experiencing now on the Portland BBS scene? Chaos. Sheer utter electronic terrorism is 604 being waged by a group of youngsters on any computer hooked up to an autoanswer modem. An erased hard disk or a deleted 605 user file is only a phone call and a few special commands away. Do the people in charge of these systems panic like the 606 party-goers did? Or do they band together and form a coalition of power. A group of people dedicated to ridding the phon 607 e lines of these electronic vermin. I say the latter. Now you must say how many are with me. We can not sit idle and 608 watch the hallowed grounds of electronic message systems disrupted any further. It is a sad day when a computer goes 609 down, yet another victim to pranksters and villians and delinquents. Raise up your voice, and leave a message to be, 610 ^h^h^h me, Donald Green, and I'll let you know how we are organizing. Thank you for your time. 611 612 d.g. 613 614 IN FAVOR OF MODULA 2. 615 616 WHO CARES? 617 618 who is this who cares person, and why do they keep asking who cares? 619 620 We first gave a characterization of doubly-infinite overlap-free words over a 621 binary alphabet. One consequence of this characterization is a proof for the 622 existance of uncountably many infinite overlap-free words over a binary 623 alphabet. Another consquence is a NlogN algorithm to test whether a word of 624 length N over a binary alphabet is overlap-free. Although this algortithm is 625 slower than recently published linear-time algorithms for the same problem, 626 its analysis allows us to determine a N^e bound, for some e<2, for the number 627 of overlap-free words of length N (tighter than the previously known N^log15 628 bound). 629 YOURS FOR A SONG TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 629