1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 ************************* INSTALLED: 30 MAR 86 ********************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 After that last disk, I thnk I prefer Destroyer/Silverman. What a bunch 21 of junk. And a real load of wasted space. Bleah! 22 Oh yeah, the obligatory "At the top." 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ fred +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 24 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 25 So close, and yet so far.... 26 (Switch down to lurk again. *SIGH*) 27 *** STARPATH *** 28 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 29 30 O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+ 31 mirrored reflections 32 33 every daze i stumble into the glass and my glazed eyes mirror 34 mirrored reflections - moving at the speed of light. 35 lattice filters crafted of crystal and icy sheen eardrums quiver and quake 36 under the stare of the mirror's wake. every drop of hail in the hourglass 37 is the first one to fall glazed eyes perceive transparently a brilliant orb 38 slipping across the sky. dancing lights light up colored glass and 39 vary in scope as a mirror dances by. Like skating the rim of a goblet 40 without goggles to see but the force of the impact shatters the glaze 41 and mirrored reflections shine from my gaze. 42 43 O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+ POPPING IN O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+O+ 44 45 ======================================================================= 46 on 47 Suddenly there sat Sten his his flight chair outside the Inn looking 48 just a little bit confused. "Schulman! SCHULMAN!" he screamed into his 49 radio, "You messed up BAD this time! Looks like you transfered me onto 50 the surface of one of the surounding planets. Knowing you, I'm on mars." 51 "Sorry, I tried to do it right this time. I have the text book right 52 here, I was following the instructions. There was one thing though, while 53 you were transfering over there was a small difficulty." Schulman radioed 54 back. 55 "What, what MINOR difficulty?" Sten sat there looking about at the 56 few people who were coming and going from a nearby tavern. 57 "Well...there was some smoke and then some sparks. I thought it might 58 be something else, other than you." Schulman sat looking at a burnt section 59 of the control panel. "It looks kind of bad." 60 "WHAT?!? Can you fix it?" 61 "I don't build these things, I just try and use them." 62 "Well TRY and fix it! I don't want to be stuck down here forever!" 63 Pacing around an old tree. "Better yet, when you get it fixed you can 64 come down here too!" 65 "I'll see what I can do." 66 "Next time I'll transfer YOU to my ship! Talk to you later. Sten 67 off!" 68 "Okay! Schulman off" 69 There have been screw-ups before with these new transferers but this 70 takes the cake. But now, now Sten will have to see what kind of a mess 71 he is in this time. Earlier he noticed a tavern close by, they should 72 have food there too. 73 Walking into the Inn, Sten ordered whatever they make from the back 74 and went to see if he could find a table. Never before has he seen so 75 many people in one place. There must be hundreds of people... Finally 76 there was an empty table so Sten sat down and waited for his meal and 77 drink. 78 ========================================================================= 79 CLEVER! 80 =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* 81 82 Im back! did everyone have a nice spring break? Sure hope so. Sneaky lurk mode 83 till I see something worth commenting on 84 Hey, Keeper of souls.. What's been shakin' round this hole? 85 86 87 Rivania 88 89 90 Hey, Rivania, where have you been? You missed an enthralling theology discussion. 91 Nothing but pure garbage which pretty much filled the system. Give me a ring some time, 92 I'll fill you in. Good day all. 93 ........PENDRAGON........ 94 >]=]>]=]>]=]>]=]>]=]>]=]>]=]>] 95 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. 96 hmmm.... Pendragon sounds familiar.... ah, yes. King Arthur. 97 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 99 Drat. Spring vacation over already, and I wasted it by digging little holes 100 and then stuffing small Christmas trees into said hole, and lastly filling in 101 the remainder of said hole. Over and over again. Almost as monotonous as 102 the occult debate on last disk. 103 Other than to complain, I remain in 104 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchlurkmode +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 105 PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP 106 107 Ag. I had a spare week to do this. Did I? Ehuh. Not me. 108 Who in his right mind has homework on vacation? Me. Ag. 109 110 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 111 Bard -- well, I suppose that we should go on quest for something valuable 112 enough to provide financially for the repairs to your vehicle. With this 113 crew, we should be able to come up with SOMETHING. 114 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 115 Go take a chainsaw to the floor of the Ruby Valley, It'll work! Honest. 116 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 117 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 118 Suggestion for this spring: Don't dream it, be it! 119 (thanks to Richard O'Brian) 120 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu, the academic 121 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. 122 to:starpath 123 what you think ok 124 if you want to send me e-mail then do it on 125 631-xxxx ok? 126 to:keeper 127 i sill like what you upload 128 .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.prince dragon.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-..-=-. 129 130 WITH AS MANY TALENTED PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, YOU THINK SOMEONE WOULD WRITE 131 A EULOGY TO THE LIBYAN NAVY. 132 133 ______________________________JD 2446521.5419______________________________ 134 MICROSOFT iS CONTROLLED BY AN UNDERGROUND CATHOLIC GROUP 135 Bellevue Washington, had a Catholic High School and a very 136 special school for woman which is still hidden from the 137 public. 138 You will never be able to move up in The High Technology 139 companies in Bellevue or Redmon if you are not a good 140 Catholic. 141 Beware to all those who are not of this religion, you 142 will eventually be ruined by the upper class Catholic 143 prelitoriat............................ 144 ************************************************************************** 145 )|(-----------------------------------------------------------)|( 146 Nathan sipped the ginger ale and pondered the 147 situation. 148 " You know ", he said to the fellow next to him, " I 149 really am not sure this all exists. It doesn't look 150 remotely like my bedroom. In fact I've never seen this 151 tavern anywhere around my apartment, very less my loft." 152 Nathan's voice lowered to an inaudable mumble. The 153 patrons at the Inn took no notice of the small man 154 having a mid life crisis. There seemed to be so many 155 people arriving and disapearing that not much notice was 156 paid to anything. 157 Nathan's voice became silent. He put his briefcase on 158 the counter and proceed to take some items out. He 159 pulled his reading glasses and sliped them on. They 160 hung on the tip of his oversized nose making him look 161 exteremely bookish, but put him at ease. 162 He pulled out an old issue of The New Yorker, 163 yesterdays Times and a dog eared copy of the Banana 164 Republic catalog and droped to the counter. He 165 carefully put his portable CD player on top of his 166 magazines. He then took out a notebook labled 167 " Compositions " and opened it up. He pulled out a 168 mechanical pencil and put the tip to the top of page 169 number one. Then he waited for inspiration. 170 And waited. 171 Finally, for seemed an eternity to Nathan ( but was 172 really no more than five minutes ), he withdrew the 173 pencil and put everything back into the briefcase. 174 Thoughts raced though his head. " Where am I?", "How 175 do I get home?", "Can you get the Times from here?", 176 "What will my analyst think?" and " Do they have 177 bathrooms here?". 178 His head slumped to the counter making a small thump. 179 Barely audible Nathan asked: 180 " Can I have another ginger ale?" 181 )|(-----------------------------Nathan-----------------------)|( 182 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 183 Prince Dragon: 184 Hmmm....Gee I wish I could leave e-mail on forementioned phone number. 185 However, I cannot because I make it a rule not to call long distance unless I 186 have a specific task, and e-mail can be done on other systems. 187 Why is it long distance to me? I don't know. Ask the phone company that 188 says that I cannot call certain phone numbers because I live too far east. If 189 I did not live in Troutdale, and lived 8 miles west of here, then I could call. 190 (By the way---we have no phone numbers that the people in Portland CANT call, 191 they get all, we get some.) 192 *** STARPATH *** 193 / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 194 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 195 To the writer of anonimous messages, I knew that King Arthur used the title 196 Pendragon. But did you know that he was not the first nor will he be the last. 197 Though the title was introduced by his father, Uther Pendragon. Well nothing 198 else worth commenting on, going down to lurk mode. 199 ........PENDRAGON........ 200 :::::=====::::: 201 Lurking Legamorph. 202 :::::=====:::::=====:::::=====:::::==Zephyr::=====:::::=====:::::==::===:::::=== 203 ? ? ? ? `/ `afhnw`i`5hyjnb;n``ln ;h2-g ,;j-0l 204 205 Whine. whimper. I heard all about thatglorious altercation that happened on 206 the last disk, and here I was gone. Now all you guys can do is be boring. Come 207 on! what is life without a little verve,a little spunk! Someone say something 208 inflammatory, please! Discord is the cayenne pepper of our mundane little 209 lives. 210 211 Yours, pretty darn dissapointed in you all.. 212 213 Rivania. 214 215 (P.S.. just to get the ice broken.. I propose to you that modems should be 216 outlawed, as they have minds of their own and threaten closer to our proud, 217 AMERICAN homes every day! Stop this menace by allowing our heroic sons of 218 Ma Bell to impose time fees.) 219 220 (P.P.S... Anyone mad yet?) 221 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 222 Emu noticed a new arrival to the Inn as he walked in and asked for 223 the light switch. "Obviously confused," was Emu's prognosis. The new 224 arrival looked around and saw the bar, went up and ordered a ginger ale. 225 Emu decided that it was time for a refill, not to mention a closer view 226 of this stranger, so he sauntered up to the bar himself. 227 The gentleman was fiddling with his papers and with an unrecognizable 228 black box, though probably of earthly origin, by the markings. Then Emu 229 saw something that he hadn't seen in years! It brought back many great 230 memories of Earth, primarily of a province called 'New York'. Emu gazed 231 and sighed. When his refill was finally granted ("It's getting busy here, 232 and the proprietor off gallivanting in who knows where or when" he 233 snorted) Emu spoke. 234 "Hi, I see you're new around here. My name's Emu. Can I read your 235 New York Times?" 236 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu 237 DOUGNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT. 238 JUST A FEW WORDS: 239 to mr. pendragon...right on dude! i liked your comments on the last disk 240 on this "occult debate". actually, i was biased for ya because of 241 your admiration of our good friend and trusted leader, k.v.jr. i picked 242 up "cats cradle" and "slaughthapt funf" ("slaughterhouse 5") by him over 243 the long weekend. alreeady had read them but they are too good not to read. 244 again. keep cool.... 245 to KEEPER OF SOULS: aha, your demon writes poetry to? yes, satan has 246 dictated mondo poetry to me...here is one of his worse: 247 A BIG DECISION 248 -------------- 249 KRAFT MACARONI AND CHEESE, 250 KRAFT CHEESE AND MACARONI, 251 WHAT A DECISION, 252 A BIG DECISION...... 253 254 quite the poet, isnt the big S? 255 WELL, BACK TO MY USUAL, AKA...... 256 --DOUGHNUTLURK-- 257 DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT. 258 Why didn't the Libyan sailors take a shower before the battle? 259 They figured they'd wash up on the beach. 260 ********************************** 261 Try this poem ....... 262 263 LOST APON TIME`S DEEP DARK FOLDS 264 ******************************** 265 LOST UPON TIME`S DEEP DARK FOLDS< 266 DEVILISH SKILL,. Eternity told. 267 Brought about, A childs small hand, 268 creates images from unlife`s land. 269 It is told A hand shell raise the Beast 270 he is not the riser of the East. 271 A child`s small hand, now tis` grown 272 to gather seeds of Evil sown. 273 Hel ooks to his soul, seeing evil told 274 one life so small and yet so great, 275 To bring forth the liegons of Hate.. 276 So let it be known this childs soul has flown, 277 unto darkest eternity, it was thrown, 278 Cast and ground upon the dust, 279 As one day, All souls must 280 be brought unto the depths of decay 281 For He Lives But For Today.. 282 283 So listen, or Read, but do not fear 284 for the time of judgement be here. 285 For if you truly can not hate 286 the one who brought about your fate 287 and cast you to the depths, 288 Too late is it to save your eternal soul, 289 ForGOD shell Never agin be whole. 290 And the power of Hate in the End, 291 Shell Win, even as eterity grows thin. 292 So leve no place for he who Burns 293 and take my Vow,,,, Your lesson shell be learned.. 294 295 And so let it be known 296 The Evil One is me 297 if you read this message be warned 298 whith the crown of thorns you are born 299 The prince of the world is here 300 So let Evil harken near. 301 Weeping tears of Blood, sympathy, 302 for he who live in me 303 but he is he, and I am me 304 but there is really no difference 305 for in him I was Born 306 Bore forever of thorns. 307 The secound Six lives, but his name I know It Not. 308 But do you know My name 309 in the End its all the same 310 You will crawl and neal, begging he who is 311 whithout sympathy. 312 BE THOU WORNED 313 THE PRINCE OF THE WORLD LIVES.... 314 315 ********************************** 316 317 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 318 Fungi grew in piles above other fungi. Spores dusted the air as one 319 person after another of the entourage disturbed them. Seeds stuck to th 320 fine robes of Milchar. A slimy thing left a trail as it crawled inside 321 the vehicle. 322 It was a mess. Though the sparse bits of technology had transported 323 them safely across the planet, no one knew why. From astonished bits of 324 conversation, the Former learned the people were plain confused. 325 Rather than waiting for someone to approach him about what had 326 appened or why, the Former decided to sit down. The most solid place, 327 with no slimy trails, was the ground plate of the transporter. It was 328 d to the touch 329 If there was anything to look at that didn't look confused, it was te 330 inside of the transporter. A plate of metal had been left loosely 331 astened, so it was easily tossed aside. 332 A sparking series of differently colored cables were hidden above th 333 plate. Low and behold, these had snatched the Innkeeper from his spot 334 nd the bar, ad dropped him nearby. A simple error for a transporter 335 to make, why once- No, that's a risque story for another time. 336 The Former looked back at the scene of confusion. It was slightly 337 herent the. The Piper had everyone putting on oxygen atmosphere 338 packs from the wrecked vehicle, and the people seemed to be arriving at 339 sensible theories about what had happened. 340 Then it struck him. The sparking wires, they had to be still 341 operational! The Former detached the primary power cable from the 342 ansporter and the sparks stopped their crackling. 343 "Fellas," The Former said, standing to his full frame, "We might nt 344 be the only ones involved in the accident, and if there are more, we hae 345 to help them home," 346 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 347 Oops, my upload scheme stabbed me in the back. The text that made 348 it across the phone lines seems to be readable, if a little difficult at 349 first attempt. 350 Sorry. 351 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 352 353 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 354 Former -- I'm a trifle confused. We're in the ailien's house/workshop? 355 correct? We've got an oxygen atmosphere presently, but this is a bubble 356 in a chlorine atmospere planet. Oxygen packs seem like a good idea, and 357 so does some sort of eye protection (ever get chlorine in your eyes?) 358 We can expect the chlorine to diffuse back in fairly quickly, oxygen is 359 VERY corrosive and could be expected to destroy chlorine-based life. 360 By the way, you did go through some sort of transformation, did you 361 not? what do you look like now? 362 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 363 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 364 My, my, as I live and do breathe! Piper 365 and Silverman (and da' WHOLE gang). 366 I hope I have been missed, but 367 would not be surprised to learn the 368 truth. Hmmm...in any case, could any 369 and/or all of you tell Nurell the Reaper 370 (if you see him about), that he can find 371 me in the Boise, ID phonebookies under 372 "Clayton Winn" and reach me therein. 373 Please quote exactly, as exactness is 374 the spice of life. 375 Oh, and have fun, soon I'll be checking 376 in often... 377 PEN NAME 378 (P.S., new computer does not represent 379 other border very well. Sorry, ahead, 380 for border toes stepped on...) 381 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 382 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 383 i know who is hankering for the green green grass of 384 loam. 385 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 386 387 _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 388 In the past, this nation's rebels and revolutionaries were great men and women of high mind and immense strength. Our 389 Paul Reveres and our Nathan Hales set this country on a course of magnitude never seen before in the history of the world. 390 As the years flow onward, rushing towards a future with ever increasing speed, those individuals who dreamt of greatness 391 went onward too, never stopping for the masses, who are always three steps behind. If they should stop, so should our whole 392 ideal of living. In every Man there exists an infinitesimally small yet powerful urge to do greatness. the movers and 393 shakers utilize this urge to its greatest extent, changing the world in their eyes, allowing the followers to come along 394 for the ride. On the other end of the evolutionary scale, those people who manifest the urge for greatness in psuedo- 395 pious rituals take great care to make their science exacting, when in reality all they are doing is shifting the blame 396 of their own functional inability to the realm of the unknown and all-powerful. They seem acceptance and power in numbers, 397 because they have no power and no pull on their own. They are not people unto themselves, they are crustaceans living off 398 the shoreline of humanity, like leeches sucking blood from a living working animal. Parasites that are not symbiotic are 399 the worst creatures known to man. They exist wholly has an adjunct to free vivacity and continued growth. They are a 400 scurge on the face of all that lives for live. They seek their countenance with darkness because darkness is the only light 401 their blind eyes can see. Mankind is unimpressed with their wimpers, but unfortunately is unable to disrupt their carrion 402 beaks from the flesh of all that lives, so they, in their horrid splendor, live on, and multiply, because some minds are weak 403 and the allure of darkness is great for those who have never seen the light. 404 _________________________________________The Light of Life Lives On__________________________________________________________ 405 406 *-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* 407 OH YEAH! 408 *-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ U.P. +-+-+-+-+* 409 410 C 411 All bhe warned that rabits is risch when it comes to speells and such. 412 Theyll be seeiing you soon. 413 THE IRISH HAVE A WORD FOR THE ABOVE. MALARKEY. 414 PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP 415 416 The Light of Life Lives on is one of three things, a commy, a pious christian, 417 or a fanatic wierdo. 418 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 419 Another Promethean Entry 420 Piper, the Former is a tall white dog, who walks erect on two legs. His 421 paws are adapted to the tasks of manipulating or walking. In that respect, I 422 guess, he is no less suited to technology than the others here. 423 The alien home is an enormous mushroom or mycological accident. The part 424 we occupy is inside the umbrella portion. It is reasonably mushy in here and 425 the creepy crawlies are not helping any. 426 I filled the chamber with an oxygen atmosphere generator, and the generator 427 is not going to wear down. In respect for the alien's home, I guess we are 428 going to switch to atmosphere packs. Chlorine being better for the structure 429 of the home, and it's owner. 430 431 Man in Gray, the scratches in the lens are being repaired tomorrow. I left 432 Cassandra there. She says she found the money to do repairs in the kitchen, 433 those sacks of sugar maybe? Oh well. The ammunition those guys left in the 434 walls is going to stay, no one knows how to get it out. 435 Retch is driving a lot. I found him locking the garage doors, ready to go 436 home for the night. He was sure upset when I told him it was time for work. 437 I wonder where he goes at night. 438 439 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 440 441 Let's see.... We've got Bard(me), Piper, the Innkeeper, Milchar, Cragmore, 442 the Former, & the alien (whose name escapes me at the moment). 443 The Former apparently has his own gear. The alien doesn't need any. 444 I've got my gear. The Innkeeper seems to not need any gear. 445 That leaves Piper, Milchar and Cragmore. Piper gets one of my spare 446 suits. I've got *one* more.... 447 Milchar? Are you up to protecting yourself? 448 Cragmore, I don't recall whether or not you arrived outside. (so much 449 has happened since then). 450 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 451 Helpful descriptions: The conveyer is somewhat larger than a motor home 452 (Winnebsgo & the like), but larger and more "streamlined". If it isn't 453 right side up we have *major* problems. (you try climbing out an airlock 454 that is on the ceiling!). 455 As previously stated, the interior has about as much room as a camper van. 456 (the shift gear, powerplant, and contragravity units take up most of the 457 space, equipment, supplies & life support take up the rest). 458 My suit (and spares) is basicly an impermeable coverall, that seals to 459 "plastic" boots. Gloves can be sealed to the wrists, and a light duty 460 "helmet" is rolled up like a hood. A stronger bubble helmet will seal to 461 the neck. Without support pack, (around 7 kilos) the suit is good for maybe 462 30 minutes. With the pack, it's good til you need to eat or excrete. 463 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 464 465 RULE FOR THE DAY: 466 IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT SOMEBODY HAS TO 467 SAY DONT CALL THEM A COMMIE PINKO. 468 ATTACK THEIR ARGUMENT, NOT THEM 469 PERSONALLY. HOW I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE 470 FIGHT UNFAIRLY. 471 472 )|(-------------------------------------------------------------------)|( 473 EMU - Firstly, give me a description of yourself, and then I'll 474 continue the story line ( if you can call it that ). 475 )|(-----------------------------------------Nathan--------------------)|( 476 DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT. 477 indeed, mr. siverman. indeed! what a bunch of crap! whenever people 478 start whipping out phrases like "crustaceans living in the shorelines 479 of the beach of humanity", well, my crap detector beeps a coupla times. 480 please, get real. society is not a happy family as you see it. there 481 are not really Evil people, except in the comic books. and the 482 "evil" (smalll "e") are just looking at good from a different perspective. 483 Satanism (and i will say that nearly all satanists, including i, do 484 not believe in satan as a red dude with horns and a pitchfork and 485 a pointy tail) sees the world through a different set of eyes than 486 say christianity, but it is the Goodest and Trueist religion ever. we 487 do not advocate violence, quite the opposite. we are for the policy 488 of "avenge yourself against your enemies" and "give your friendship 489 to those who deserve it, but dont "love thy enemy"". this is astringent 490 in the eyes of some, but it is reality, the real world. if you want to 491 extend your hand to a mugger who just ripped you off to make friends, 492 you are a fool and deserve what you get, which probably wont be good. 493 i watched "the 700 club" today, as it is good for laughs, 494 and saw some more christians imposing or trying to impose their beliefs 495 n others. today, they were upset because the textbook writters 496 didnt include the "positive effects" of christianity being "given" to 497 the indians in central-south am., but how they did "shockingly" only 498 mention that "christianity was imposed on the indians." it is a fact: 499 CHRISTIANITY WAS *IMPOSED* ON THE INDIANS, and they deny it. what good 500 did this do to the indians as they claimed? well, cortez destroyed the 501 entire aztec civilization in a year or so, and they were totally wiped 502 from the face of the globe. how about the "holy wars"? 503 is the slaughter of 20 million people (mostly children too) a good 504 thing? the monks encouraging people to go sure thought so....for what 505 reason too? a border dispute. it didnt matter. "god" doesnt give a crap 506 about earth, a infinately tiny part of the know universe. we are so 507 incomprehensibly meaningless in the universe. incomprehensable! we 508 are so proud, why cant there be life on other planets? it will hurt 509 our 1-1 relationship with an imaginary 510 god. where would we be now if the total scientific and socio-econmoic 511 life of the world hadnt stagnated for 1000 years during the 100% 512 religiously controlled "dark ages"? i wonder.....i wonder..... 513 back to ---doughnutlurk for me, less i am brought back out of it by 514 such crap---- 515 DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT.DOUGHNUT. 516 Correction - that should be DOOGHNUT HOLE. 517 518 Dear Mr. Doughnut Man..... 519 520 Well aren't we being Nihilistic? The truth is, I agree with many of your 521 basic premises, but you support them rather negatively. The Church may be 522 a load of bunk, but for many people it is their only source of comfort. 523 Think about it. Some people can only heal themselves through the use of 524 placebos. They need to think that something else, either higher or more 525 intelligent, is helping them. It relives the burden of having to know the 526 whole burden is on their little human shoulders. And I think that Church 527 is a placebo for the Masses that cannot figure these things out for 528 themselves, cannot bear the brunt of the responsibility of having to find 529 the divinity in themselves. There is, in my opinion, no big, bearded man 530 sitting in the clouds, but a shared, common divinity that everyone shares 531 and draws on/. And by condemning the Church, you are condemning a goodly 532 number of people to a small, if not nonexistent slice of the deistic pie. 533 My mom always told me that that was greedy. 534 But you are right about the Dark ages. In most cases, the Church is run 535 by human beings as lost as the masses they try to heal. 536 537 P.S. to PenDragon.. Finally got a good debate to comment on, didn't I? 538 539 Munching on my slice of the Deistic Pie,and boy is the crust flakey..... 540 541 Rivania 542 543 ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^ 544 *********************************** 545 to: DOUGHNUT man 546 Id also like to make a commint about that qote. 547 "GOD DOESNT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT EARTH" unqote 548 Well I think your might be right about 549 him not caring about the planet, but he 550 definitly does care about the souls on it. 551 becouse if you look at it this way. 552 When Lucifer was casted out of Heaven their 553 was only 1/3rd that wint whith him, but since 554 man (& woman) has come into exsistance, Hell has been filling up 555 pretty fast, a lot faster then heaven. 556 Some one made a commint I think it was on 557 the previes disk,."for cristan is born there is satanist born." 558 Whut this person doesnt realise is that 559 every one brakes the ten commandments, which doesnt 560 mean their satanist, but it definitly doesnt make them a cristen 561 so actualy its more like for ever 10000 pepole born 562 1 true cristan might amerge, the others will be 563 miss led, desived, etc... Whut im try to say is, 564 When God created Man(`s soul) he created his own destruction 565 becouse he didnt ever suspect Lucifer 566 would brake free of his bonds, But oh well who want to live 567 for ever any ways.... 568 & to that other commint, qote. "there are not 569 realy any Evil pepole exceptin the comic books" unqote.. 570 (big E) Well then youve never met Me..!!!!! 571 & you said somthing about satan as a red dude 572 whith horns and a pitchfork. Well thats right 573 he doesnt look like something off of Heckel & Jeckel cartoon. 574 But does have Horns, not red skin, red symbolises Demons, if any 575 think it would be green(DEIVINE) or Blue(ANGELIC) 576 & no pitchfork A diffrent dude carrys that !!& its not a pitchfork 577 its a trident.. anyways 3 out of 10 he`s carrying around 578 the ribbin from Eve`s hair.. 579 (not that I see him All the time) 580 thats just whut LUCIFUGEROFASALE is telling me right now. 581 He also telling me I sould be saying stuff like this to you 582 I dont no why, but oh well he hasnt throughn me 583 across the room yet so hes not to pissed off. 584 I just wanted to say if you think God doesnt care 585 about anything its becouse you just 586 dont fill his power in this world anymore, becouse he let it 587 slip through his fingers in to the fire...... 588 ********************************** 589 puzzeled on your concept of life: 590 KEEPER of SOULS 591 ********************************** 592 Puzzled by their concept of reality, KEEPER OF SANITY (a tough job, right now) 593 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 594 A hand shook my shoulder, and I left the regions of sleep to return to the 595 surface world. I yawned. 596 Bard looked at me with a puzzled look on his face. "Are you okay, Milch? Can 597 you get your own air now? We're going to let the clorine back in here." 598 I shook my head to clear it. I felt much better than last I remembered... 599 almost *too* good. "Yes, I think I can. Keep something close by for 600 emergencies, though... just in case." 601 Bard nodded, and tried to keep his mind off his wrecked transporter by helping 602 the others to be able to survive the coming clorine. 603 I fumbled about for that pack of 3x5 cards. The search went much faster than 604 in the old days, when the cards were in only one order- random. Now I found 605 right card under "Survival" subsection "Breathing". 606 I read from the card, pronouncing each syllable clearly in my mind. A bubble 607 of clear air flowed into being, surrouding my head entirely. I fcarefully 608 gauged my expenditure of energy. 609 It was about an order of magnitude too small. What was going on? 610 Outside help? Not Cragmore- he had all he could do to endure the mental static 611 the alien produced; little bits of the pain drifted into Milchar's mind now 612 that I had some power to work with. 613 Milchar's Mind? Why had I thought that? 614 I hoped that the others could do without me for a bit, and examined the room 615 for mental disturbance other than the alien's. Could that be part of their 616 technology? Hmmm, that plant over there looked particularly interesting... 617 where had I seen one like it, with those transparent needles? 618 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar ++++++++ 11:26pm, 1 Apr 86 ++ 3 days 619 .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. 620 Nathan: I'm just a regular guy... none of this tall white dog or six armed 621 alien stuff for me. Nor do I have any nifty powers such as magic or 622 psionics. In times of trouble I simply rely on my wits. I've wandered 623 a lot through several realities and a few planets, usually in others' 624 vehicles, and, along with Milchar's friend, the Doctor, my favorite is 625 Earth, anytime in it's development. I'm about 5'9", red hair, red beard, 626 wearing jeans, flannel shirt, leather boots, and hunting knife. My pack 627 and jacket are back in the room I'm using here at the Inn. My usual drink 628 is a dark ale imported to the Inn from Ireland, Earth, circa 1847. By the 629 way, what issue of the Times do you have there? .-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.Emu TOTAL NUMBER OF LINES = 629