LI FILE ON MARGIN IS 128 STATUS: ENTER ONLY NUMBER OF LINES: 612 1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask.... 2 ******************** REMOVED: 17 AUG 84 ******************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day system operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 WOW!!!! at the top, this hasn't happened to me for months & months. 21 Question????? When will all you Vic, 64, Apple users learn to use 22 full lines on this system????? Just because your screen only displays 23 23,40,64 lines doesn't mean that this system won't accept more!!!! 24 You can set these margins up to 128 characters per line but 76 is prefered. 25 Personally I like 80 with my 64 as two screen lines equal one Backwater 26 line, but if I'm using an 80 column terminal its even easier. 27 #############################DAMIEN II 9/12/84 9:23am###################### 28 29 P.S. I didn't mean to slight you Trash 80 users, so don't feel left out. 30 ############################################################################ 31 NO PROBLEM CRAPADORE, OR COMMODE AS IT IS CALLED HERE. AND WE WOULDN'T 32 THINK OF CALLING ATARI - ARATI, OR APPLE - CRAPPLE, OR VIC 20 - SICK 20 33 OR WANG - FANG, OR KAYPRO - BOAT ANCHOR, OR OSBORNE - OZBUG, OR TI - 34 TERRIBLE INSTRUMENTS, OR HP - KP, OR IBM - IT'S BETTER MANUALLY, OR 35 SANYO - SINKO, OR NEC - NACK, OR DEC - DECKED, OR EPSON - EMBALM, OR 36 OR MORROW - SORROW, OR TAVA - LAVA, OR VAX 11/780 - VIC 11/780, OR 37 SPERRY - SPARROW, OR BURROUGHS - BURROWS - OR NCR - CPR, ETC ETC ETC 38 WOULDN'T IT FIGURE THE DEVIL'S CHILD WOULD USE A MACHINE QUITE 39 OBVIOUSLY HELL-SENT AND HELL-BENT? 40 41 42 Well this my first try ay this so here goes. I have just bought a 43 Signalman Mark 12 and a Copylink. I am looking for more Sanyo MBC-555 44 owners out there in the world of computing. I haven't much more to say 45 at the moment so I will sign off. This is Jody looking forward to 46 hearing from anyone out there 47 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 48 49 voyeur, 50 Hmmmm..... reviewing my stats I stand corrected....Sorry for trying 51 to make you more Nuke happy than you were. 52 53 Laz, 54 Forgot to ask about non-sequential risk...more details please. 55 56 MiG, 57 The file does not contain much material......but fear not there are 58 some odd multiples and regular repetitions Sooooo there is still hope. I 59 still think its some format garbage that contains ( if any ) a small amount 60 of data....Friday it is.......more info then. 61 62 L'homme, 63 Perhaps you should notify the research firm of your choice as to the 64 effects that VOL seems to perpetrate on this reality.... After all it was 65 you who brought the first batch..... or you could start the Center for the 66 Study of VOL....or The VOL Center for Abberation Research....hey even 67 A.A. ... Anomlies Anonymous..... 68 Hmmm you might even get some pagan organization to sponsor the research 69 70 :::::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 71 72 To: Anyone with a commodore 64 73 From: Dean Snavely 74 If you used to have a VIC and you have any of the Scott Adams adventures on 75 Disk the will work on the 64 76 77 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-; 78 Once again I continue to learn. Yes the first Apples were nasty little things. 79 I knew somebody that had bought what was then a Heathkit pc, and he was quite 80 adamant about the fact that Apples power supply was no good and he said* 81 "I wouldn't buy an Apple now or in the future, because they have none." He 82 was always a great seer don't you think? Ideally an Apple IIc is what i'd 83 like to put my mitts on, however that $1300 price tag tends to make me a bit 84 purchase shy. I considered an Atari 600 or 800 but that basicly the same 85 price range: too high. So I guess it's settle for a Coomode or a Trash. Ahh 86 if life just didn't have all these little decisions to make! How boring it 87 would all be! Well, beings as it's time to hang up the modem and acall it a 88 day I will. It's a day! 89 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-; 90 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 91 DEAR ALL, 92 HELLO GOOD BYE 93 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 94 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@**@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@ 95 Cistop Mickey- 96 By noise immunity I meant the 6502 doesn't seem to be quite as 97 touchy about dirty data and address lines as the others I've worked with. 98 Also MiG (I think) asked me earlier why I thought the 6502 is used still. 99 I'd speculate that it is because the 6502 was relatively cheaper earlier 100 then most of the others. As a result there's a lot of inertia and a very 101 broad user base. Would you care to comment? (Your comments are giving me 102 some good historical material) 103 CDP 104 @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@ 105 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 106 PET PEEVE FOR THE DAY: WHY DON'T PEOPLE SIGN THIER MESSAGES? ARE THEY ASHAMED 107 OF THIER THOUGHTS AND WORDS? YOU GET TO KNOW PEOPLE BY THIER BORDERS, BUT THAT 108 IS LITTLE HELP IN ADDRESSING SOMEBODY. CDP, MIG, ALEX, AND ANYBODY I FORGOT, 109 THANKS! I LIKE TO THINK I KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TO. TO ALL OTHERS, COULD WE 110 PLEASE SEE SOME NAMES? 111 (THE ABOVE MESSAGE WAS A PAID POLITICAL ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE CHS APATHY CLUB.) 112 113 MIG- WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN YOU AROUND OUR FAVORITE INSTITUTION, CHS(THE CENTER 114 FOR HIGHER STUDIES). E.P. HAS THE PLOTTER WORKING, AND WE HAVE THE ROOM ALL 115 TO OURSELVES. PLEASE COME BACK AND SEE! 116 TO ALL: WHY THE DEBATE OVER PROCESSORS? MY APPLE USES THE 6502, AND I COULDN'T 117 CHANGE IT IF I WANTED TO. EXCEPT FOR THOSE PEOPLE WITH WIRE SPILLING OUT OVER 118 THIER EXPIREMENTER'S BOX, WE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE, SO LET'S MAKE 119 THE BEST OF IT! 120 VOYEUR, LAZ, MIG, ETC.: I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT RISK! THANX! 121 122 SO LONG FOR NOW, AND I WILL SIGN OFF WITH MY NAME..... 123 JONATHAN CHANCE 124 (WHO ARE YOU?) 125 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 126 @**@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@* 127 Jonathan - 128 Cletus D. Payton 129 I'll still sign it 130 CDP 131 @*@***@*@**@*@****@*@**@**@*@***@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@**@ 132 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^ 133 134 Alex - I will bring the rules with me to the N.A.P.P. coming soon. 135 136 J.C. - You may or may not feel Laissez-faire is a name, but it does 137 convey the essence of my political beliefs. 138 As for RISK, I was involved in a game of BBS risk about 6 months 139 ago (on another network, as they say) and it was really quite 140 interesting. We might give it a try here, as the riskers also 141 seem to be hardcore users of the system. If we play, I claim 142 black. I also volunteer to be the game sleeper. 143 144 Mikey - Would a risk game be OK with you ? It doesn't take much space 145 as abb. are used. Let us know. 146 147 Riskers - If Mikey says OK, I will leave the rules. 148 149 Mikey - As boss man, how do you feel about the N.A.P.P. ? Are you favorably 150 inclined ? Is the date OK ? 151 152 All - Regarding previous meg. 'cute', but unnecessary. 153 I guess from vandalism, there is not the necessary interest. I will 154 remove my suggestion. A simple no would have sufficed. 155 156 ^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$ Laissez-faire $^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^$^ 157 ********************************************************************* 158 TO JODY: IF YOUR LOOKING FOR OTHER SANYO 555 USERS, THE BEST PLACE IS 159 TO SHOW UP AT A USERS GROUP MEETING. THEY MEET ON THE 4TH WED OF THE MONTH 160 WHICH WOULD BE 26 SEPT 84 THIS MONTH. THEY MEET AT 7PM IN SANDY'S MEETING 161 ROOM AT THE LLOYD CENTER. (IT IS ON THE 2ND LEVEL NEAR THE ALADIN RESTURANT. 162 CURRENTLY THEY ARE SUPPORTING ALL SANYO USERS (CPM AND MSDOS) THOUGH AS 163 TO BE EXPECTED, THE 555 USERS MAKE UP THE BULK OF THEM. 164 ************************************************************************* 165 CDP: FEW PROCESSORS THAT RUN AT 1MHZ HAVE PROBLEMS WITH NOISY LINES. 166 THE 3MHZ AND 4MHZ 6502'S ARE JUST AS TOUCHY AS THE Z80 OR 8085 IN THAT 167 ASPECT. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT IS THE LEAST SENSITIVE, GET A 1802. 168 ************************************************************************** 169 RE: RISK, I DON'T CARE, AS LONG AS IT FITS THE RULES PER THE OPENING MSG, 170 YOU CAN DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT HERE. 171 RE: NAAPP, AGAIN, I DON'T CARE. KEEPING IN MIND THAT I PROBABLY WON'T 172 SHOW, AS I CURRENTLY AM NOT IN THE PARTYING FRAME OF MIND. 173 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY ************************************* 174 175 176 LAISSEZ-FAIRE (LAZ): I NEVER KNEW !!! 177 Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda 178 L'homme; (What the heck is this machine I'm typine on?) Anyway, I hope that you 179 didn't take my put-downs seriously during the pool match. I didn't realize until 180 you left how bad they must have sounded. Putting up with three brothers has made 181 that a normal mode of behavior. Don't let that stop you from coming back for a 182 rematch of Trivial Pursuit and pool with my brother, Mr. Schmidtand me. We may 183 even let you bring a level. (Maybe you can do better next time-you can even 184 be my partner again, if you want the handicap) 185 Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda Linda 186 Okay, here I am again on this marvelous BBS and I 187 Really enjoy the comments and the input that it gives out 188 I hope that my last message a few days ago was not so dreary and remorseful that 189 it made too many of you readers out there saddened or bored over my feelings 190 about war as a whole. 191 Enjoy your messages, keep those cards and letters posted. 192 Sam 193 194 195 To: Bob Wood 196 From: Sam Pendergrass 197 Subject: Thank You 198 Thanx for the input on the info about this BBS. Since you informed me about it 199 I hope that you will get my message here. The Board is great. Wish I had 200 better input though. Sort of a desert of useless info. 201 Appreciate the assist. Hope to catch you Thursday night. Will give you a call 202 On the thirteenth. 203 exit 204 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 205 yawn...... Can anyone tell me how to build a CB simulator? 206 Aaron 207 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 208 :::::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::::::::::: 209 Mikey: I've been scanning my archive copies, and I have a question: 210 what do you do with control characters? I have noticed that a lot of 211 them disappear when you move a disk to drive B, and I couldn't find any 212 (for instance) tabs in the archives. So, what is translated into what, 213 and what can I expect to find in the archives? (It would be handy to know 214 so if I decide to print them out, I'll be able to filter out any characters 215 that my printer doesn't like).Thanks. 216 ::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::::::voyeur:::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::: 217 It had been wonderful talking to Mirendil and Hakon. They had many 218 tales from their travels, and when the Lady Mirendil sang... 219 Ah, well, tomorrow was another day and he would be hard at work re-filing 220 his master's archives. 221 ......................................the apprentice........................ 222 OMSI ComputerfairSeptember 28,29,30 223 ___________________________________Leonard__________________________________ 224 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 225 A PLEA TO ALL PATRONS AND NEWCOMERS 226 ::::::::::::::::::::::::: 227 Noticing that the reality of the inn was dimming somewhat the piper stood 228 and called to those around-- 229 "Please ... remember that the reality of where we interact is a consentual 230 decision. Our image of the inn is dependent upon repeated repainting of te 231 images -- we need to keep the scene fresh in everyone's imagination. After 232 a short time, the image begans to get rather thin and fly-specked. We have 233 numerous new people here who have to be shown this reality so that they may 234 intensify rather than dilute it. I am as guilty of anyone for neglecting 235 the atmosphere, but please let's keep the inn in sharper focus!" 236 The piper looked slowly about the large plank-floored room, his gaze tra- 237 velling across the ancient scarred wooden counter being polished by the 238 innkeeper, lingering a moment on the worn surfaces of groups of tables pushed 239 together by the patrons deep in discussion and debate, past the smoky fire that 240 filled the air with wisps and eddys of fragrance, up a short flight of stone 241 steps past the half-ajar door to the rowan tree planted there -- it seemed 242 like ages ago!-- by the by now nearly mythical Pam. 243 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 244 THE UNIVERSE RULES SLIME PIT MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!! 245 (chortle chortle) 246 ? ?? ? ?@? ?`?? ? ?`? ?`? ? ? ? ? ?/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? > ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 247 CDP:sorry, I have yet to get the`time to get the bit shifting info, I am using 248 the 6805, which is a tad different then the 03 or the 09. I *WILL* get to`it, 249 just that moving tends to be time consumeing. 250 Jonathan Chance:Gee, an apple with a plotter, and me with my tekscope`and hard- 251 copy graphics printer. I don't`have any idea when I will return, if I do at all. 252 Aaron:I think that picking up the phone and dialing somebody works. 253 ? ?`? > ? ? ? ? ? > ?@? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? > ? ? ? ?(X(X(? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/ 254 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-; 255 Laseter had shown the gems to a "Hock shop" owner and the fellows eyes quite 256 nearly popped out of his face. He insisted that he could only purchase a 257 small quanity due to their purity. 3,000 of the paper units called dollars 258 later, Laseter was finding a place to stay. He'd have to stay incognito for 259 a while and wait for Fin to show his presence. Stretching out on the large 260 bed of the posh hotel room he contemplated his next move to get even with 261 Fin for setting him up as a flunky. A wicked smile played upon his face as 262 he drifted to slumber. 263 *#*!#_*!#)*)*%)@#*%_@#(%%_@*%*^)_*$&)+@^+@*+^@!^)$*^_)!#*^)_#$*^)_*!^_*^_*^!_ 264 voyeur : Was that really? Could it be? Is it all just a cruel joke? Are you 265 rubbing it in? Did you manage to convince certain people that computers 266 aren't all that bad? Oh thank you thank you thank you. $500 will be delivered 267 soon. Maybe I better bring it over... 268 linda linda linda : I didn't mind at all. I have a pretty thick skin, and the 269 atmosphere made all the verbal jabs worthwhile. I would be proud to have 270 you as a partner again, be it pool or T.P. If anyone has been a handicap 271 lately, it has been me. But that's another story... 272 MiG : After seeing the CHS stuff, I thought I would leave you this non 273 humorous note. Way back (3.5 years ago) when I went to David Drugless (!) we 274 played Columbia HS is a basketball game. Some clever person at our school 275 really had his or her little mind working, so before the game, several signs 276 were made up. The faculty didn't realize until it was too late what exactly 277 the signs really meant. They were displayed for all to see - and what did 278 they say? "DAVID DOUGLASS IS GOING TO SMOKE COLUMBIA" 279 Clever eh? 280 Laz : I don't want to speak for Alex, but we who attend his Risk parties and 281 partake of VOL don't care too much for the sequential form of risk as found 282 previously on CBBS/NW. You may be able to start another game here, but I 283 imagine some might object to the space it takes considering the limited # 284 of lines per disk. Maybe another game on CBBS/NW again. Bill Marx doesn't 285 have to play (and cheat? haha) every game you know... 286 Mikey : Thanks for the info. Haven't tried it yet, but I will... 287 P)*%)_*%@)#_*%@#)_%*@_#_@#^*) L'homme sans parity *%_)#*%@#%_@#%@)_#*%_@)#*%_@ 288 ******************************************************************* 289 VOYEUR: IT DEPENDS ON WHEN THE ARCHIVE WAS MADE. I WAS HAVING A LOT 290 OF TROUBLE ORIGINALLY TRYING TO READ FILES WITH CONTROL CHARS IN THEM 291 SO I HAVE SINCE RESORTED TO STRIPPING THEM OUT DURING THE ARCHIVE 292 PROCESS. THUS THE LATTER ONES DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL CHARS. UNFOUTUNATLY 293 THE CC STRIPPER IS NOT VERY DISCRIMINATING, AND THUS THE ^I'S GET STRIPPED 294 TOO. OH WELL... 295 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY *************************************** 296 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-; 297 SIGH! THINGS SURE ARE SLOW TODAY. DID THE STATEMENT: "THERE IS NO DANGER TO 298 THE PUBLIC" EVER BOTHER YOU? DO OU FEAR MAJOR NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST? UNCLE RON 299 GOT YOU UP LATE NIGHTS? WELL MY FRIEND! FINI FIN HAS THE SOLUTION FOR YOU: 300 A WONDERFUL, FUN FILLED ADVENTURE THROUGH TIME AND SPACE! AS A DULY SWORN 301 REPRESENTITIVE OF TRANSUNIVERSAL TIME KEYS, INC. I AM ABLE TO OFFER A CHOICE 302 OF SEVERAL SPECIAL "GOLD KEY" PACKAGES INCLUDING OUR EVER POPULAR FIRST CONTACT 303 WHICH INCLUDES THE GOLDEN AGE OF INTER-GALACTIC SPACE TRAVEL. WE ALSO OFFER 304 AUTOMATIC JUMP SEQUENCING WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO SEE EVERY EVENT ON TIME, WITH- 305 OUT INTERRUPTION. FOR MORE INFORMATION ON HOW WE CAN TAKE THE HO-HUMS OUT 306 OF YOUR LIFE, JUST LEAVE YOUR NAME, NUMBER AND DESIRED TIME AT THE SOUND OF 307 THE TONE. 308 ;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;-;--;-;-;-; 309 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 310 Mikey:Do you perhaps know who makes those little solid-state cooling units that 311 fit on top of`chips? As I recall, they were fed some ungodly amount of current 312 and cooled off one side and gretly heated up the other. 313 L'homme:Thanks, I needed that, the attendence secretary just call about 15 min. 314 ago and`wants to know why I wasn't there today. 315 She didn't seem to enthused by the reply "I decided to take this week off" 316 Aaron:have any 64k DRAM begging to be sold? 317 /MiG/? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(?(X(X(X(X(X(? ?/ 318 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 319 Now that I am awake, permit me to rephrase, Mig: "Can anyone tell me how 320 to set up a CB Simulator similar to the one in use on CompuServe?" 321 Aaron 322 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 323 ooops... PS: How many, what speed, what size? 324 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 325 <+|+> {331} 09131333 326 ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 327 Aaron:8,4164,200-250nsec,64k*1 328 ? ?`? ?@? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? > ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? / 329 "#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"# 330 dear number one jerk (at the top!); 331 I just 332 wanted to say that I take 333 serious offence to people calling TRS-80's 334 "TRASH-80's"! For your information, the "TRS" 335 stands for "Tandy Radio Shack", not for "TRASH" 336 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 337 No if you haven't gotten it yet, watch the 338 snyde comments O.K., stupid jerk!!!! 339 No to the number 2 guy, in my book, you are 340 number ONE!!! Thanks for the help! 341 A TRS-80 owner!!!! 342 ====== 343 And DAMN proud of it!!!!!!! 344 So there "CRAPADORE" owner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 345 ========= 346 "#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"#"# 347 _______________________________________________________________________________ 348 A collection of clever phrases compiled by WORD FROM THE WISE 349 350 The last thing one knows in constructing a work is what to put first. 351 Blais Pascal 352 A morsel of genuine history is a thing so rare as to be always valuable. 353 Thomas Jefferson 354 Software stands between the user and the machine. 355 Harlan D. Mills 356 Microprogramming is the implementation of hopefully reasonable systems through 357 interpretation on unreasonable machines. 358 R.F. Rosin 359 Microprogramming an inefficient algorithm does not make it efficient. 360 Raucher's Law 361 A person with one watch knows what time it is; a person with two watches is 362 never sure. 363 Proverb 364 We may say most aptly that the Analytical Engine weaves algebraical patterns 365 just as the Jacquard loom weaves flowers and leaves. 366 Ada Lovelace 367 Delay is the deadliest form of denial. 368 C. Northcote Parkinson 369 Break the embraces, dance while you can. 370 Wystan Hugh Auden 371 A quarrel is quickly settled when deserted by one party; there is no battle 372 unless there be two. 373 374 ____________________________A WORD FROM THE WISE - PART XIII____________________ 375 376 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 377 MIG: WHILE I REALIZE CHS MAY NOT BE THE IDEAL PLACE TO SPEND THE TIME, I THINK 378 YOU HAVE MORE THAN 1/2 THE TEACHERS BELIEVING THAT YOU CAN DO IT THIS YEAR. 379 WHILE I REALIZE THAT A PIECE OF PAPER IS NOT MUCH, IT MIGHT COME IN HANDY LATER. 380 CDP AND LAZ: I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. YOUR NAMES ARE QUITE SUFFICIENT 381 AND I ENJOY KNOWING(?) WHO YOU ARE. THE MESSAGE WAS ADDRESSED TO CERTAIN 382 DISGRUNTLED TRS-80 AND COMMODORE OWNERS(RUDENESS RARELY SETTLES ANYTHING!) 383 ARRON: ON THE CB SIMUALTOR. THE SOFTWARE IS NOT TOO COMPLICATED, BUT 384 DO YOU HAVE THE HARDWARE FOR MULTIPLE I/O ON SEVERAL MODEMS AT ONCE? 385 386 PIPER! NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN! AND HERE I THOUGHT YOU HAD DISAPPEARED ALTOGETHER. 387 MANY MAY NOT KNOW YOU FROM BEFORE, BUT I REMEMBER FONDLY YOUR LIVELY TUNES! 388 COULD YOU POSSIBLY PLAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD KEEP PEOPLE FROM SLANDERING OTHER 389 PEOPLE'S EQUIPMENT, AND BREAK UP THE TENSION? WHEN EVERYBODY HAD A COMMON 390 GOAL, THE INN WAS A MUCH HAPPIER PLACE. AGAIN, GOOD TO SEE YOU! 391 NOW FOR SOME REAL MUSIC! PIPER, IF YOU PLEASE....... 392 393 JONATHAN CHANCE 394 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& 395 TO ALL ACCESS COMPUTERS: IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN A FACTORY SUPPORTED USER'S 396 GROUP, PLEASE CONTACT ME. EITHER LEAVE A MESSAGE ON THIS BBS, OR I WILL 397 BE ON AUTO-ANSWER FOR THE NEXT HOUR OR SO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS 398 (206)254-xxxx. THE MORE WE GET THE MORE SUPPORT AND INFO WE WILL GET FROM 399 Good Morning to you all, at the tone the time will be 01:00 AM on the day of the Fry. I would like to say to all that 400 401 I would like to reiterate again,(the glitch got me!) that I appreciate the quality of writers on this BBS. It is always 402 NICE to see some who care enough to be civil to the point of being socially acceptable by all who stop in to spend a 403 minute or two. 404 Sam 405 SLIME PIT TRASH 80S RULE THE UNIVERSE !!!!! 406 ::::::::::::14Sept84:::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::O O::::::::::05:16:::::::: 407 voyeur strolled down the path toward his destination. As he neared, he began 408 to spot more frequent signs of the recent visitors - damaged trees and bushes, 409 garbage strewn along the way. He picked up what he could, but soon his pack 410 was full and he could hold no more. Sighing, he wished that he could get the 411 rest of the Innhabitants to help clean up, but alas, they were such an 412 independant lot that whatever got done was done individually. 413 As he came to the bridge, he eyed it dubiously. It looked a bit rickety and 414 in ill-repair, but upon closer inspection he decided that the basic foundation 415 was still sound; the damage was mostly cosmetic, and with some attention it 416 would regain it's former appearance of solidity. Proceeding across the span and 417 along the path, he began to smell the familiar aroma of woodsmoke in the air. 418 He was getting close! Rounding a bend, he saw it - the well-seasoned logs of 419 it's sides, the steep gabled roof, the rowan tree - the Inn. After being off 420 travelling since the ill-fated Amber adventure, it was good to be back. 421 Approaching the door, he noticed that the Inn itself had not escaped the 422 ravages of the childish and inconsiderate visitors. Graffiti was carved into 423 the wall, such trash as 'SLIME PIT MINDS RULE THE UNIVERSE'. Saddened at 424 the desecration, he was almost afraid to see what had transpired in the 425 interior. Firming his resolve, he entered... 426 As he stood in the doorway, waiting for his eyes to adjust to the relative 427 dimness, he was relieved to note that the current patrons did not seem to be 428 too rowdy a group. Finally able to see properly, he looked around the common 429 room. There along one side was the bar, with the Innkeeper disconsolately 430 wiping the counter. Along another wall was the large fireplace, which at 431 present was banked and merely smoldering. Off to one side was the stairway 432 heading to the sleeping rooms upstairs. Around the rest of the room were 433 scattered tables, at which were seated the present occupants. Some were 434 familiar, some not. He saw the piper off in his usual corner, carving a new 435 drone reed. He waved at the piper, getting a smile and a nod in return. 436 Deciding to dampen his throat before getting into any serious story telling, 437 he strode to the bar and asked for a beer. While waiting for his drink, he 438 asked the inkeeper what had become of his barmaid. 'I wish I knew,' the 439 inkeeper responded so wistfully that voyeur forbore from furthur inquiry. 440 Turning around, he scanned the seated customers, looking for the old familiar 441 faces. Where should he start? Was Milchar here perhaps? He was curious to hear 442 the rest of the story of the Ruby Valley. 443 ::::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::voyeur::::::::::O O::::::::::::::::: 444 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 445 The piper was shaving a small sliver off the toungue of a new drone reed 446 when the scarred wooden door opened. Squinting against the brightness, he 447 smiled at what seemed to be a familiar figure making his way across the room to 448 the bar. It was voyeur -- back from his last adventure! 449 The piper scraped just a touch from the short length of cane, then wrapped 450 a bridle of rosined hemp cord around the toungue of the drone reed. Placing it 451 to his mouth, he blew a short tone. Somehow it seemed that the room wavered 452 slightly with the intensity of the sound. 453 He quickly slid the bass drone from its stock in the bag, removed the old 454 reed, inserted the new and reassembled the pipes. Placing them on his shoulder, 455 the piper winded the pipes and gave a tap to the inflated bag. The reed caught 456 quickly, did not roar or double tone. Holding the pressure steady in the bag, 457 he began sliding the joints of the drone until the reed came into tune. A few 458 touches to the tenor drones, and the pipes began to give the air a shimmering 459 somewhat like the air rising over a hot stove. Running quickly up and down 460 the scales to test the tuning, the piper, satisfied began to play the 461 piobarechead "Lament for the Children." Tears were soon streaming down his 462 bearded face as the music took control of his emotions -- this song was written 463 by a piper to express extreme grief, the ground, or basic tune, was taken from 464 the sounds of his wife's heartbroken sobbing after the death of seven children 465 from the plague. 466 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 467 *************************************************************** 468 Mig: The part you are looking for is called a Peltier Device 469 It is sold by Cambion (Cambridge Thermonic Corporation) 445 Concord Ave. 470 Cambridge, Mass. 02138 Ph (617)491-xxxx I one a few years back that 471 was 1.5" sqr and could maintain a 30 degree C differential. For this it 472 required 3.5 volts at 8.5 amps. (not exactly low power) 473 ****************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************** 474 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() 475 Someone was killing a cat! That was the only thing he could 476 think of could make such a garrish racket. His sleep now ruined, 477 he sprang from his tattered bed, and made his way sleepily to the 478 door. Upon opening the worn wooden door that separated his crude 479 room from the rest of the inn, the sound grew both in magnitude and 480 pitch. Since he could do nothing else, he listened closer, hugging to 481 relative safety of the outer hall's railing. The sound seemed to to 482 delve into his very soul. Never before had he had such feelings. Feelings 483 he could obviously not explain. He quickly realized this was more than 484 the death cries of some unfortunate feline. The sound seemed to almost 485 carry him down the hallway. As he approached to stairs that lead to the 486 commons, the sound grew in strength and clarity. He could almost make out weeping 487 sounds hidden in the subtle phrases of what he now knew was some new 488 kind of music. At the top of the stairs, he forced himself to stop his 489 forward motion. Would it be safe to be seen by the other patrons? He had 490 taken so much care to hide his face and enter the inn without too many 491 taking notice. Now would this music force him to ruin all of his secretive 492 plans? He wanted to remain at the top of the stairs, just out of sight, but 493 not too far away to not hear and experience the music. 494 Suddenly it stopped, and the gathering quite took him so by surprise, he 495 lost his balance, and tumbled down the stairs. Years of training helped his 496 reflexes to control his body and minimize his injury, but the end result was 497 a none-too-gracious introduction to the crowd who had gathered to experience 498 the music in their own way too. The noise he made upon hitting the landing was 499 enough to wake even the most groggy inn goer, but most of the patrons' 500 attention was still focused on the source of the music. He noticed a few smiles 501 aimed in his direction as he righted himself, but no laughter or chidding, as he 502 feared. Quickly regaining some composure, he followed the paths of the other's 503 eyes to the source of the wonderful music. His eyes set upon a colorful man 504 beyond description, and an amazing set of pipe-like instruments. His curiosity soon 505 overpowered his usually steady caution center, and he forgot all about the 506 troubles that had brought him here to the inn. 507 ()()()()()()()()()()()()(The Bygone Runner)()()()()()()()()()() 508 509 ********************************************************************* 510 ################################################################## 511 512 TODAYS WEATHER: 513 514 MOSTLY SUNNY MOSTLY DRY. MOSTLYBLUE SKIES 515 BMB 516 _______________________________________________________________________________ 517 518 awright! This ridiculous computer warfare has gone on long enough! What a 519 bunch of idgets! I have worked on all of the afore mentioned machines, 520 both business and game programming. Each machine has its own strong points, 521 though some have very, very weak points indeed. I currently have a 'crapadore' 522 and find it the most fun and versatile as far as games go. The apples, 523 franklins, IBMs, etc, are all of the highest quality. The only computer that 524 I may scoff at may be the TI line. Not exactly what I term a 'computer'. 525 So beore you go calling anybody names, look at your own hunk-a-junk and see 526 if you can be proud of it or not. 527 528 _____________ Googoo Schultz __________________________________________________ 529 Too many mistakes erase the eraser 530 W.O.W. 531 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 532 "Well played indeed, old friend!" cried the bard as he entered, book in hand. 533 "I think I shall refrain from singing for the moment, otherwise we may find 534 ourselves in one of those 'my song's gloomier than your song' competitions! I 535 still shudder at the memory of one such contest that STARTED with 'Sam Hall'..." 536 He then seated himself at a table near the entrance to the 'baths'. 537 Many had commented on the strangeness of Roman-style baths in an Inn such as 538 this, but there was a simple enough explanation. The Inn had been built on and 539 around the remains of the old baths. Since the ground was already clear & a 540 foundation in place building had been easier. Though bard suspected that the 541 builder had also liked the idea of having the baths there! 542 There was a lull in the conversation & bard spoke up. "I fear I cannot 543 remember if I have sung a song called 'Causes of Rebellion' to this fine company 544 if I have then you may be interested to know that the tune is also used for 545 a song called 'Retreat Along the Wabash'." 546 "Piper, Do you know a song called 'Garryowen'?" 547 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BARD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 548 VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT 549 If everything seems to be going well, then you obviously don't know what the 550 heck is going on... 551 VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT--The Mad Philosopher--VT VT VT VT VT VT VT VT 552 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~84 Sept 14~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 553 First time on for me. Have to admit that I didn't really find much of 554 interest. TRS-80, Commodore, Apple, etc. Who cares? I've got a hot-rod 555 Lincoln! 556 One thing I noticed was that I couldn't tell elapsed time from the 557 messages. Seems like one could at least date their messages. Time may be 558 appreciated depending on how quickly messages scroll off the board. 559 (It' 2:43 at the sound of the bell!) 560 I'll check in again in a few days or so to see if anyone has anything 561 really interesting to say. In the meantime, take care! Myself? I'm off 562 to the Oktoberfest! 563 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TROLL~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 564 565 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/<*> <*> 566 567 Remember: Under every building there is dirt. 568 569 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/random\/\/\ 570 571 FUR A FUN TIME CALL SALLY, 255-666 572 OH WELL, IT WASN'T THAT FUN ANYWAY. 573 574 A ROLLING CHIP GATHERS NO MOS. 575 576 -- Dotti Digital. 577 1001001000111000100100010001011110001000100100100101010111110001010101010 578 Hi there d, guess who? Betcha' can't! 579 (Can't what?) 580 tobor, the mad automaton. 581 The line dividing sanity 582 From reality is like the 583 Line dividing the road. 584 585 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' 586 TELL YA WHAT. WHY DON'T WE ERASE THE LAST HUNDRED OR SO LINES? I HAVE NEVER SEEN 587 SUCH A LACK OF CREATIVITY AND UTTER NONSENSE. REMEMBER AMERICA, GIVE A HOOT, 588 DON'T POLLUTE! 589 BY CLEANING UP THE GARBAGE ON THIS BULLETIN BOARD, YOU ARE DOING YOUR PART 590 TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY CLEAN. REMEMBER, OLD BEER CANS AND CANDY WRAPPERS AREN'T 591 THE ONLY KIND OF TRASH AROUND. SO CLEAN UP AMERICA! BE A SPORT! KEEP IT CLEAN! 592 ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 593 (rummage,rummage,cuss,sigh) "here docs! heeeeaaaar docs!" I can't seem to find 594 my 6803 docs anywhere, 6805 anl z-80 yes, but the 6803's are nowhere to be found 595 I wonder which box they were in... 596 Zaphod:what was the DYM # again? seemed to have lost the list. 597 Hawhtorne:ye are in deep figa,remember that printer? the one from Michaels 598 office? the one you didn't return? the one with the now-nonfunctional interface 599 card? 600 ? ? ? ?MiG? ? ? ? ? ? ? > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 601 L'homme: I now have a ZVM-123 monitor, but won't have the disk/video unit until 602 Monday. Oh well, it makes a pretty good black&green TV... 603 _____________________________________Leonard____________________________________ 604 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 605 JC: Yes, can handle the I/O. Care to DL a rough description to the system 606 of how it works and is used? Maybe a little data on their MEGAWARS also? 607 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Aaron <><><><> 608 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE INN SEEMS TO BE GROWING THICK, AS IF THE VERY ROOM TO BREATHE 609 AND TALK IS DISAPPEARING. SO MANY OLD FACES. PIPER, GOOD CHOICE! HOW ABOUT A MINOR REALITY SHIFT TO CLEAN UP THE PLACE A LITTLE 610 BARD! NICE TO SEE YOU! I WAS GONE FOR SO LONG, AND NOBODY WAS HERE WHEN I CAME BACK. MIND IF I SIT DOWN? JONATHAN CHANCE&&&&& 611 612 You realize of course, I am still depressed. >