LI FILE ON MARGIN IS 80 STATUS: ENTER ONLY NUMBER OF LINES: 593 1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 ********************* REMOVED: 30 AUG 84 ******************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 Backwater personals 21 PAM -- Please come home. All is forgiven. 22 I promise to pay you for the overtime. 23 Please hurry, the Inn is a mess. 24 Innkeeper 25 --------------------------------------------- 26 ''$')#'#%)%%&&$%%"%"(%%%$%$&&&')'$'#$'!"#$%%&'()(''&%$#"!"#$%%&')())&(&(%%)&(&(%)&$&()$))&)$(&%(%($%$()(( 27 IAN: Yes you have to format the disks. Please do so ASAP. I about to shoot the CP/M system I am working on. Never before 28 have I seen such a mess. Maybe the stars weren't in conjunction, or maybe it wasn't my day, but I haven't had so many 29 BDOS errors on A, B, or C, since I last worked on a Northstar. What this all means is that there will some more delay in 30 getting the archives over to the IBM. You will have plenty of time to format your disks. Besides, I had to...shudder... 31 take home a commode 64 today...I am still recovering from shock. 32 Alex : What is the status on getting the archives printed? I managed to find another person who is interested in getting 33 a printed version. 34 Petrov : Glad to hear from you again. Watch out for Orygunians though. They seem to all be a real strange breed. 35 ')%)%)')#%'#%'%"'#%'$$&$$'' L'HOMME SANS PARITY '%)#%(#(%"#'%%)%%)%!)&%)%!&%%&%!%"%!"&%!&%!&%!)%!)&!&!!!%!% 36 37 /\/wiggle wiggle giggle giggle 38 39 Too much of anything is bad, 40 but too much whisky is just enough. 41 42 ululating like worms in a can. 43 44 &*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& Blast Effects? What's going on here? 45 are you floks crazy? This 46 "normalizing" of the ubsurd is just that!. 47 &*&*&*&*&**&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&**&*&*&*&*&* jes' me\ 48 49 No, we haven't gone crazy, nor are we wierd. And we aren't floks. Floks never live above the 28th parallel. Har de 50 har har. Migguy. I plan on being here tomorrow at 7 and will call. Unknown guy. 51 This is just a test to see if I can get a message out. 52 save 53 Do I need line numbers? 54 55 58 0707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707 59 TO : ALL NET PERSONNEL 60 FM : NET CENTRAL OPERATIONS 61 RE : RECALL 62 63 ALL NET PERSONNEL SHOULD HENCE FORTH AND TO WIT RETURN TO BASE 64 IMMEDIATELY. THERE HAS BEEN A SUDDEN CHANGE IN THE MIDDLE EASTERN 65 SITUATION THAT REQUIRES THE ATTENTION OF THE ENTIRE NETWORK. ALL 66 MISSIONS SHOULD BE TERMINATED ASAP. PLEASE CONTACT ADA FOR FURTHER 67 INFORMATION. 68 69 JOSHUA, L'HOMME, AND GAUDY MINSKEY SHOULD TAKE CARE OF DANGERFIELD 70 AND GET BACK HERE. WE CAN'T HAVE YOU FOOLING AROUND IN RAINDEER 71 FOREVER. 72 73 ALL CURRENT MISSIONS WILL RE RESUMED WHEN AN ATMOSPHERE MORE CONDUSIVE 74 TO MISSION SUCCESS RETURNS TO THIS AREA.. 75 76 THAT IS ALL. 77 78 0707070707070707070707070707 AUGUST 26TH, YEAR OF OUR LORD 1984, @ 1:00AM 0707070707070707070707070707070707070707070707 79 80 81 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 82 Mikey:flakey or no, I have plugged in my mini-coco to the wall with this setup. 83 After reseting blown breakers, no apparent effects were noted exxcept the 84 usual loss of program. I have never had the thing false trigger on me. 85 Enough on the EMP discussion, lets get to something realy DIFFERENT! 86 Alex:God, I may never recover, a wonderfull time I don't remember having in a 87 long while. Come to think of it, this ones kinda hazy too! 88 I think Hawthorne enjoyed himself, I left him on 5th and burnside. He said he 89 had an easyer way to get home. Luck to him. 90 MiG 91 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 92 93 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 94 From a seat at a table near the wall, the piper watched the ebb and flow of 95 the patrons who currently filled the inn. Draining the last of a glass with a 96 sigh, he took his pipes and started for the familiar comfort of his room. On 97 the way, he felt a cold shudder snake up his back. Shivering slightly, he 98 hurried to the warm comfort of his bed. 99 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 101 ATTENTION ALL TROOP COMANDERS: 102 DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT RETURN WITH YOUR TROOPS. WE HAVE ENCOUNTERED A VERY 103 DANGEROUG SITUATION WITH THE APPEARANCE OF OMEGA IN ROME. TAKE ALL PRECAUTHIONS 104 105 NOT TO LEAVE ANY CANISTERS OF DICHLOROMORPHINE II IN YOUR AREA. WE HAVE REASON 106 TO BE 107 TO BELIEVE THERE WILL BE MORE OF THE TYPE OF THING ENCOUNTERED IN LA PAZ. 108 ******************************************************************************** 109 110 GO PLACIDLY AMID THE NOISE AND HASTE AND REMEMBER WHAT PEACE THERE MAY BE IN 111 SILENCE. AS FAR AS POSSIBLE, WITHOUT SURRENDER, BE ON GOOD TERMS WITH ALL 112 SURRENDER, BE ON GOOD TERMS WITH ALL 113 PEOPLE. SPEAK YOUR TRUTH QUIETLY AND CLEARLY AND LISTEN TO OTHERS, EVEN 114 THE DULL AND IGNORANT, THEY TOO HAVE THEIR STORY. 115 ***************************************************************************** 116 STAY TUNED FOLKS, WE'LL BE BACK LATER-SAY GOODNIGHT GRACY. 117 SAY: WHERE IS EVERYBODY TODAY? 118 ################################################################################ 119 IT WAS A DARD AND STORMY NIGHT. THE LAST OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE HAD BEEN FED AND 120 MARTHA FELT A TWINGE OF RESENTMENT TOWARD REGGIE. HE HADN'T CALLED SINCE THEIR 121 ARGUMENT ON THURSDAY. WHY HAD SHE WRONGED HIM? ... WHERE HAD HE GONE? THE 122 RED AND WHITE TABLE CLOTH SEEMED TO REFLECT HER ANGRY MOOD. DESPIRATE FOR 123 ############################################################################# 124 I AM INTERESTED IN TALKING TO ANYONE WHO HAS A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF 125 ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS: COPY II+, dBASE II, OR DATASTAR. 126 PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL - PETE CLARK 246-xxxx - THANKS 127 ############################################################################## 128 129 OFF 132 ************************************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 135 FRANCE IS WONDERFUL!!!!! 137 EMMANUEL 138 :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+: 139 Wow, I have never seen Backwater like this. This sure is a change from the 140 every day routines. It seems like the wave has arrived at backwater. It 141 kinda runs in a circle, all these new users I mean. Well, I can only hope 142 that it gets all fixed-up and everything working again. 143 Well, there's not much to say these days so I'll be seeing you all around 144 someplace. 145 :+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:St.Clair:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+ 146 { ^+/* ---------------- ^+/* ---------------- */+^ ---------------- */+^ } 147 Laissez-faire - Indeed, it a great pleasure to interchange ideas with someone 148 who sees beyond the obvious, and who expresses what they see in eloquent 149 terms. I especially enjoyed the example of wave and sunset as experiential 150 examples of perfection. Once I experienced both together; a moment that I 151 treasure as one of the most beautiful I have ever seen. 152 Erudition is fine, as far as it goes. At some point one needs to leave the 153 comfortable confines of the printed page and set out on a course to obtain 154 their own direct experience in these matters. My experience leads me to 155 believe that the state of perfection and the perception of that state are 156 both gifts, not something one acquires through their own efforts. Many of 157 the exercises that are billed as 'means to acquire perfection' are merely 158 methods to condition the person to accept the gift, if and when it does 159 come along. By the way, you seem to be extremely well read yourself. 160 161 We are taught that the acquisition of knowledge is of prime importance. In 162 fact we are advised to acquire any and all information that is available. 163 Now there are even games (trivial) to test our accomplishment in this area. 164 There are some questions few seem to ask. Does acquiring certain kinds of 165 knowledge limit the ability to perceive or learn other things? What is the 166 'Coin of the Realm', which one uses to pay for knowledge? Is it perhaps the 167 loss of innocence? 168 169 There is another popular modern idea, that perhaps warrants some scrutiny. It 170 says that the way to understand something is to gather enough pieces, then 171 put them together to form the big picture. Certainly this techniques has 172 served well in certain scientific investigations. There are other equally 173 valid methods of understanding. For example, the idea of 'essential nature'. 174 In this process understanding comes through synthesis rather than division. 175 Perhaps they are two parts of the same process, and one part was lost in the 176 translation! 177 { ^+/* --------------- The Mesolithic Mathematician --------------- */+^ } 178 *************************************************************** 179 IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING WHY BWMS WAS DOWN, I WAS PERFORMING 180 BACKUPS TODAY BETWEEN 1:30PM AND 5:00PM. 181 L'HOMME: I NOW HAVE 3 MORE DISKS IF YOU ARE INTERESTED. ALSO NOW 182 HAVE AVAILABLE THAT ELUSIVE 20MAY83 FILE TOO. 183 THE POOR 8 INCH SYSTEM WAS REBUILT, BUT ALASS IT APPEARS THAT 184 ALL THE FILTERS AND STUF WERE OF LITTLE HELP. THIS BEAST IS 185 A VERY NOISY COMPUTER, OBVIOUSLY IT WILL FIGHT ME TO THE BITTER 186 END ON THIS ONE. SIGH.. GOD I HATE COMPUTERS! 187 ****************** CISTOP MIKEY ********************************* 188 I do not understand why anyone would take the time trouble and expense to set up 189 this BBS when they hate computers. I sure am glad, though, and appreciate Mikey having done 190 so. Backwater is the only truly interesting board in the area. Thanks, Mikey, It's been fun. 191 Unfortunately, I am moving out of state, and will not be able to log on for a couple of months 192 . And even then, not too often. ( The phone bills--). BUT, you haven't gotten rid of me for 193 ever---. *=*], Lysias, Guest, Unknown Guy, Dorun, etc. I'll miss you guys. (Even Mig). I 194 will probably move the middle of next week. Mike Shanon 195 (PS- I have lower case now. Fooled Ya! Har de har hr) 196 55%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%55 197 198 YES, YOU GUESSED IT. TEDDY SALAD IS BACK. BUT NOW IN HIS NEW MOD ERA AND 199 CRAZIER THAN EVER. SO BE WATCHING FOR THOSE UNBEATABLE MESSAGES FROM THE ONE AND ONLY 201 TEDDY SALAD 206 55%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%55 207 X. 208 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 209 Unknown guy:What is this "even MiG" garbage? was it not I that paid for your 210 last Bud of the afternoon? I will be here at 7, go fer de xfer. 211 Prometheus:did you get home O.K.? Now you can at least say youve lost a Risk 212 game! (snicker) I will let you know when we do it again. 213 MiG 214 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 215 ::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::::::::: 216 MiG: it sounds interesting! Tell us more of this fatefull event. 217 Was it an overlooked Japan? Or a hack-and-slash move West when a cautious 218 advance NorthEast would have been better? And who was the winner, Alex? 219 Or did... YOU ...finally have your chance at glory!? 220 And did you get Nuclear, or plain vanilla risk? Did you have to introduce 221 the secret weapon (that infamous orange liquid)? Details, please! 222 :::::::::::::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::voyeur::::::::::::O O:::::::::::::::: 223 224 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 225 226 FROM HAWTHORNE: THE DEFEATED 227 228 GEE, I JUST WOKE UP AND I ALL OF A SUDDEN REALIZED THE BITTER TRUTH; I LOST A RISK GAME! 229 230 AND IT WAS A PITIFULL LOSS! I HAD ONLY MEAGER STRONGHOLDS THAT DIDN'T EVEN HALFWAY MEASURE THE IMPERVIOUS STRENGTH OF MINE 231 ENEMIES. IKEPT ON FOR A WHILE, UNTIL OF COURSE BART GOT A WILD- EYED LOOK AND SCREAMED "NO MORE MR. NICE GUY!" AND COURTIOUSLY 232 HANDED ME THE VICTIM DICE. 233 234 AND WHILE I WAS BEING BURIED, SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT SURRENDER ON ALEX'S TERMS. THE SXENE STILLED AND EVERYONE LOOKED TO MIG... 236 MIG CLAIMED MASOCHISM AND THUS ALEX STOLE SOUTH AMERICA RIGHT OUT FROM UNDER HIM. THIS IS WHEN MIG STARTED A PSEUDO-ORANGE- 237 VILE-LIQUID EFFECT! 238 239 ALEX JUST COULDN'T WIN. TIDES OF WAR TURNED IN MIG'S FAVOR AND FOR TWO HOURS THE FACE OF GOD'S GREEN EARTH WAS SHREDDED IN 240 THE BLOODY RIGHTS OF WAR. 241 242 BUT ABOUT TWELVE O'CLOCK I AND MIG HAD TO BE GETTING TOWARDS, HOME, AND SLEEP. BUT THAT IS YET ANOTHER STORY. THE OUTCOME OF 243 THE GAME YOU ASK, TECHNICALLY IT WAS ALEX WHO WON BUT IT SIMPLY WAS A JOYLESS VICTORY. I THINK. 244 245 I AM SORRY, ALEX, FOR BEHAVING MORE AND MORE MY AGE AS EVENING PROGRESSED. IN RETRO-THOUGHT I DON'T REALLY SUPPOSE I SHOULD 246 HAVE QUOTED KLINGONS... 247 BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING, I HAD A FUN TIME. 248 249 THANKS ONCE AGAIN MIG, AND AS MUCH AS I DOUBTED I WOULD, I DID IN FACT CATCH TRANSPORTATION. I EVEN GOT HOME WITHIN THE HOUR 250 WHICH WAS TWELVE. 252 HOW DID YOU MANAGE? 253 DREAMTOUCHER, T A LOT FOR BRINGING MY TOO-HEAVY PACK ALL THE WAY FROM PC+S TO RADIO SHACK THAT WAS NICE OF YOU. 254 255 VOYEUR. I MEANT NO OFFENSE. 256 PETROV, TO YOU ALSO I'M SORRY THAT I WAS RUDE. I'LL TRY NOT TO DO THAT AGAIN. REALLY. 257 DEMETER, NICE TO MEET YOU. 258 259 WELL I SUPOSE I HAD BETTER BE GOING AWAY NOW. SEE YOU LATER IN LIVES, PROMETHEUS HAWTHORNE. 260 261 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 262 WE HAVE BUT LITTLE TIME LEFT, ARNOLDO, WE MUST MAKE THE MOST OF IT AND 263 HOPE THAT THE OTHERS WILL NOT WONDER WHAT HAS HAPPENED. SET THE TRACERS 264 AND LET NOT A WORD BE GIVEN TO ANYONE, NOT EVEN YOUR WIFE......NEVER 265 FEAR, THERE IS ALWAYS THE UNDERGOUND TO OFFER YOU SUPPORT. CONTINUE 266 WITH YOUR MISSION AND "QUE SERRA, QUE SERRA". REMEMBER, THE WOLF 267 NEVER SLEEPS. 268 269 BRING ME SOME BACON FROM BARCELONA WHEN THE END IS NEAR AND I SHALL 270 REWARD YOU WITH THE ULTIMATE GIFT........MY LIFE, LIKE IT OR NOT. 271 272 UNTIL LATER, I LEAVE YOU. ASK NOT FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS - IT 273 TOLLS FOR RLAPH! 274 Yeah! I heard all about the events of last night. 275 You guys molesting that innocent (blonde was it?) girl at the bus stop. Hey 276 Migguy, was the number you got 229-xxxx? Just kidding. Boy, you guys must have 277 had a good time. Was L'homme with you? Did he have a roll of duct tape wit 278 him? Har de har. Dreamtoucher: if you happen to be there, I should be home 279 by no later than 3 PM. Hope that will do. Hope you can find out about the 280 "Le Deal" by late monday, Tuesday at latest. Mig: Thanks for the try. Maybe 281 when you get a 6809EMP, you will be able to have full duplex. ( the 6809EMP 282 has provisions for this. It is accessed through ROM which is easy to incorp 283 rate into your system. I'll gladly donate to you the EPROM I have, if you can 284 find a way to plug it in. 285 Don't be concerned with vile orange liquids. It is vile orange home made 286 tablets that you should beware of. (Signed): Multi-faceted personality. 287 MY WORK HERE IS FINISHED. YOU PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO TRY TO SURVIVE ON BEANS 288 AND WHATEVER ELSE THE MASTER HAS CHOSEN FOR YOU. 289 290 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 295 Prometheus:Got home o.k. if not a wee bit hazy, had to walk a mile or two 296 which was actualy quite fun ifyou remember what condition I`was in. 297 voyeur:prometheus made a much better discription then I could. What happened in 298 essence was Alex/Bart killing Prometheus in wanton bloodlust. 299 Let me explane, Alex went for beer letting Bart take his place, Bart has nothing 300 resembling human compassion and tact. When the`board was 95% red, and`I was 301 black, I was`offered a`ghavce to acfneng 302 Hum, equipment must be getting overly warm. I was offered a chance to give up. 303 I did not, and in a despirate sweep, ruined 4 expensive Countries for Alex, 304 I got cards first anl t`e`situation `evercEd 305 Crud, I got cards first and the situation reversed itself. Faced with walking 306 home to troutdale from beaverton I acCeded the gamE to Alex and statrted the 307 308 I'M AFRAID WE'LL HAVE TO TUNE IN NEXT TIME FOR THE REST OF THIS FASCINATING 309 STORY 311 312 MY NAME IS NIETZSCHE AND I HAVE BEEN WATCHING YOU ALL FOR A LONG TIME. 313 I AM IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I HAVE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO SEE AND WITH WHAT I 314 SEE AS A HIGH LEVEL OF TOLERENCE FORBELEIFS. 315 316 THIS IS NOT THE CASE EVERYWHERE, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW. I AM WHAT MANY WOULD 317 CALL A RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE, I KNOW THAT MY MOTHER AND FATHER ARE AFRAID 318 OF ME AND MY VEIWS. I HAVE BEEN BEATEN UP, LECTURED, CONSIDERED TO BE QUITE 319 LITERALLY CRAZY, AND MANY OTBECAUSE OF MY BELEIFS. 320 321 THERE ARE A FEW HAVENS FOR SOME ONE IN MY POSITION TO DEBATE AND EXPRESS MY 322 VEIWS AND POLITICS. BACKWATER MS IS ONE OF THESE. 323 324 NIETZCHE IS AN ALIAS (Q.V.) AND I DO MAINTAIN ANOTHER IDENTITY. I'M SURE 325 SOME OF YOU HAVE KNOWN THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. I AM NEVER EASILY MIST- 326 AKEN. 327 328 THE REAL NEITZCHE ONCE REFERED TO THE PRICE OF KNOWLEDGE AS " PESSIMISM OF 329 SENSIBILITY " ANOTHER WRITER FOR A TELIVISION SERIES ONCE TERMED IT THIS WAY 330 " I'VE SEEN TOO MUCH TO EVER BE BRIGHT- EYED AND BUSHY- TAILED, AGAIN. " 331 332 IT IS THEN, NOT RARE TO PONDER THE PRICE OF INTELLECT BUT WHEN MOST PEOPLE 333 DO PONDER IT, THERE IS ALWAYS AN ATTITUDE OF REGRET, OR REMORSE. 336 IF SAY A SMALL LATINO-AMERICAN COUNTRY RENEIGED ON IT'S LOAN; ONLY 33 % OF 337 THAT LOAN WOULD BE FROM AMERICAN BANKS THE REST WOULD BE EUROPES BANKING 338 CENTERS. 339 WHEN VENEZUELA RENEIGED ON ITS COMPARATIVELY SMALL LOAN; INT'L COMMITTEE 340 WAS FORMED WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE INTRESTED BANKS IN ORDER TO 341 ABSORB THE COST OF THE LOAN. THE OTHER MAJOR BORROWERS WERE VERY DEFINATELY 342 WATCHING FOR THE OUTCOME OF THIS AS WELL AS MOST OF THE PRESS. 343 344 IT IS MY BELEIF THAT WHAT WAS ONCE AN ERA OF POSSIBLE ANARCHY TYPE- SOCIAL 345 COLLAPSE IS OVER WITH. OF COURSE IF TWENTY YEARS FROM NOW AN 8" ARCHIVES 346 DISK IS FOUND BENATH THE RUBBLE OF TWISTED STEEL BUILDINGS AND A CORPSE OR 347 TWO THEN I WILL HAVE BEEN A FOOL BUT I DON't THINK I WILL. 348 349 NOW, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE ME UNDERSTAND WHAT ZEN IS? 351 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; NIETZCHE ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; 352 <<-<> MIKEY WILL YOU PLACE 333, 334 AND 335 BACK, PLEASE? IF SO THANK YOU. 353 ZEN IS NOT SOMETHING SOMEONE CAN MAKE YOU (OR ANYONE) UNDERSTA 354 XXX THUS SPOKE ZARATHUSTRA. 355 )*#@)%*#)_%*+!#_(%!+#*%)!#*%)@#*%+*@#%_)*)%*@)%*)*%@+*%*%*%)*%@)_*%@_#)%*_)* 356 Mikey: Yes I am interested. I can't speak for the others. If the price is 357 $5 per disk and you supply the disk, then bring them to the next PCS get- 358 together. I will pay and put on my shylock robes to collect from the others 359 later. Thanks for ressurecting the 20MAY83 file. 360 I have been looking over some of these old files from years gone by. I must 361 retract a previous statement in part regarding BW then and now. The phosphor 362 letters seemed to flow in smooth recourse from the CRT to my eyes. It had 363 been so long since the touching words of the old timers had laid claim to 364 my attention. I can see why you remember the "old days" so fondly: The great 365 debates (remember artificial intelligence and electrical shocks from phones) 366 the great romances (remember Luke and Jody), and so many facinating 367 characters and situations. But I guess, evolution is inevitable, and BW is 368 simply following the normal course of nature. 369 Thanks so much... 370 )*%@#)*%@#_*%@#_)*!%@_% L'homme sans parity - a la memoire de passe' *%)*$%) 371 372 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 373 Riskers at large, 374 A joyless victory at best......The teeth marks in the rolling 375 cup bear witness to my frustration.....not to mention the divots in the 376 ceiling from my efforts to castigate the powers that be by launching the 377 aforementioned cup at the heavens....If one was to pick the one phrase that 378 could best summarize the evening....it would be " SCUM SUCKING DOG " 379 said through clenched teeth following any roll lower than a 2....Needless to 380 say it was uttered frequently ! and with painful regularity. Never have 381 so many men died at the hands of " Rollus Ineptitudeus "....and there wasn't 382 even an empty bottle of the vile orange on the premise. L'homme, perchance did 383 you spill any on the board ?...on the dice ?....the cards ?....the men 384 themselves ?.....Just to be on the safe side I am sending the whole lot to 385 Hanford for decontamination....Box and table included. Hopefully to be back 386 by Saturday the 8th of September....when I propose we meet for another 387 exercise in disproving the laws of probability.. 388 L'homme, 389 Indeed I am trying to get things arranged for a hardcopy of the archives 390 but as is always the case .... the proper printer has not yet stayed in town 391 long enough. When one does...The call will go out ! 392 By the way have you got anything to counteract the vile orange ? 393 394 :::::::::::::Alex:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 395 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 396 I was just typing along, my hardware giving me moderate trouble when ZAP! 397 were talking voltage surge here, and then the joy of watching my screen 398 shrink to a small lifeless dot. Anybody know`why half of troutdale`was black 399 for 2 hours? 400 MiG 401 ? ? ? _ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 402 **************************************************************** 403 TO PERSON ASKING ABOUT LINES 333 ECT. HUH? THEY LOOK OK TO ME. 404 L'HOMME: OK, WILL DO NOT SUR HOW TO HANDLE THE 20MAY83 FILE, SINCE 405 THE STANDARD STRUCTURE IS TO FILL THE 8" DISKS AS FULL AS I CAN, 406 THERE AIN'T NO ROOM. MAYBE I SHOULD PLOP IT ON HERE? OR, JUST PROVIDE 407 IT TO YOU ON A 8" DISK OF ITS OWN? (I DO HATE TO WASTE A PERFECTLY 408 GOOD DISK ON A SINGLE FILE THOUGH... 409 BY THE WAY, THE PRICE FOR NOW IS STILL $4.00 SINCE I STILL HAVE SOME 410 OF AARON'S DISKS LEFT. SPEAKING OF WHICH, MAYBE YOU SHOULD HOLD HIS 411 DISKS FOR RANSOM. SEEMS THERE HAS BEEN NO MONEY OUTPUT AS OF YET. 412 MIG: MAYBE AN SCR FIRED OFF ON ITS OWN? ERR AHH (SNICKER) 413 ************************ CISTOP MIKEY ******************************** 414 P.S. L'HOMME AGAIN: YES, THE SAD PART IS THAT A YEAR FROM NOW WE'LL 415 LOOK BACK AT THIS AND THINK OF IT AS THE GOOD TIMES AS WELL. YUCK! 416 ************************************************************************ 417 WELL, I WASN'T AROUND FOR THE TIMES THAT ARE NOW TH GOOD OLD DAYS, BUT 418 I HOPE TO BE AROUND WHEN "NOW" WILL BE THOSE GOOD OLD DAYS. FUNNY THING 419 , NOSTALGIA: OFTEN THE "GOOD OLD DAYS " WEREN'T REALLY BETTER THAN THE 420 PRESENT. WHICH IS NICE TO THINK ABOUT, WHEN WE DO TINK ABOUT IT--- 421 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 422 --Semantic Interlude-- 423 k o u oc e d e q ar opl 424 (Specific symbols randomly arranged) 425 426 Ex ydke. fosdkje dko fjicjeosk buxple dr owl dk! fipp 427 428 (Symbols are grouped but lack semantic value. Grammatical rules are 429 nonexistent) 430 431 432 A kiosk ate strangely. Twelve watches watched windows. Give the dog a 433 tune up, please. Leave my nostril under your plate? 434 435 (Symbols are grouped grammatically but still lack semantic value) 436 437 438 The heart of the fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of the wise is 439 in his heart. An investment in knowledge pays the best interest. 440 441 (Symbols are grouped following the rules of grammar. Semantic value 442 is present. This is the only arrangement that communicates information) 443 444 ??? HOW WOULD YOU CATAGORIZE YOUR MESSAGE ????????????????????? 445 446 Gerry 447 448 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 449 450 SAVE? 451 Well, I'd categorize mine as clever, witty, origina, entertaining, well 452 written, socially redeeming bull----. *=*]. (Yes, I'ts me, but with this 453 ColorCom E, I can't get a left bracket.) 454 455 ************************************************************* 456 ADDENDUM TO PREVIOUS MESSAGE, WONDER OF WONDERS, NOT 15 MINUTES 457 AFTER LEAVING THE PREVIOUS MESSAGE, AAON STOPPED BY AND PRODUCED 458 THE MONEY. (MAYBE WE CAN HOLD OUT FOR MORE RANSOM MONEY?) 459 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY **************************** 460 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?`? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 461 Mikey:I can see it now, every breaker from my house to PGE is rusted closed 462 The 50 amp/600 volt SCR crowbars the whole of troutdale into darkness. 463 I feel SO GUILTY! 464 Pardon, but I must go tune-up my dog, and retrieve my left nostril. 465 MiG 466 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 467 ******************************************************************** 468 HEY, WHO KNOWS AT THIS RATE I MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO BUY A 212A FOR 469 BWMS IN A FEW YEARS..... (THAT OR BLOW IT ALL ON A PIZZA) 470 ********************** CISTOP MIKEY ******************************* 471 Migguy- good thing it runs on batteries, no? Hey, wat was that stuff 472 about my Radio Shack equipment? And you are gonna buy he same? Har de 473 har har. Unknown guy 474 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 475 - 476 Would you believe this is a test of my Commodore 64 ? ? ? 477 - 478 4 479 I JUST GOT A MPP 1000C MODEM AND THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST BBS' 480 THAT I HAVE CALLED 481 !#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#! 482 So, are there any Pascal (Apple) modem programs out there? I 483 am having a hard time finding one that will work. If you have 484 any books that would help me or tyhe software itself could you 485 leave names of them and where I can get them? THanKS. 486 "The good ol' days", That is probably the most common words in 487 the english language. Some day they will look back into the 488 dutly ol forgotten floppy disks, stick then into these old 489 out-of-date computers and say, "These were the GOOD ol' days". 490 Maybe? Maybe not. These computers will be set in the BIG 491 warehouse in the sky, right next to the GREAT invention of 492 the Vacume tube. What will be the "Talk of the day" then? 493 How about transportation in the future? Music? Clothes? 494 Styles? Food? Hairstyles? world hunger? Housing? What will 495 it be like after our graves have been forgotten? Who knows, 496 the person of the future that might be reading this might be on 497 another planet, Space Syation, under the see in a homing comunity 498 where people grow up, have children then pass on the family name. 499 Or, another race altogether different than ours is now. Maybe they 500 only know what we look like from old history books. Maybe one of 501 them is eating his dinner off of this disk because they don't 502 even know what it is. Neat questions huh? If BWMS residents 503 are looking for something to talk about this might be an interesting 504 topic to do it on. I know I have had fun typing this in tonight. 505 What will becaome of the society that we live in today, will it only 506 live in history text books, stidied by future student who will still 507 say "Why do we have to read this old junk!". And who also eat all of 508 the monday suprise that we never ate. 509 The "high tech" that are known today will be on display in the local 510 museum of ancient history. They only look at them and wonder what 511 they did, and why we invented them or why we used them. Only a few 512 would still work, being tested against all of the newer machines and 513 loosing horibly. They will wonder how we could stand for such slow' 514 and meaningless tools as they look at thier own and say "Now there is 515 a MACHINE!". Machines that we can only dream about today. 516 517 Ok, there is a start on a different subject. I'll stop now, not because 518 my fingures are tired but I don't HOG the topic. Hope to see some replys. 519 And don't forgett about that Pascal QUestion at the top. 520 521 !#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!#!Mark#!#!#!#!#!#! 522 One thing that will be 'around' forever is music. When Michael Jackson, Elvis 523 , and yes, even Grand Funk Railroad, have been forgotten, there will still 524 be Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Mahler--- 525 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 526 YOU FORGET THAT THE BEATLES WILL STILL LIVE, THEM AND THE 'STONES 527 +++++++++++00000001TED++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 528 AH, YES, THE BEATLES. WHERE WERE YOU IN THE FALL OF 1963, WHEN THEY MADE TEIR 529 DEBUT ON ED SULLIVAN? 530 There was this guy who wanted to build a backyard BBQ. He went down to Anaheim 531 Builders Supply, and got bricks, mortar, etc, and started building it. As 532 he was almost finished, he realized that he was one brick short. He went back 533 to get it, but the salesman told him they only sold bricks by twos. (computer 534 ized inventory, etc). Well, the guy didn't like thi very much, but he ante 535 wanted to get it done, so he bought two. After he hd completed the BBQ, he 536 started to really get steamed up. So he went back to Anaheim Builders Supply 537 and demanded a refund. NO said the salesman. "So what am I supposed to do 538 with this brick?" asked the guy? "I don't care" said the salesman. Well, they 539 argued for a while, and then the salesman said "Why don't you (DELETED). The 540 guy didn't want to do that with the brick(!), so he just threw it (the brick) 541 up in the air. And that's the end of the joke. 542 Okay, Guys; I now can claim lower case. Somehow sixteen straight hours of debug in a language I don't even have more than bare 543 association with doesn't seem worth it... 544 545 Oh yesI must ask that you tolerate me, and what I'm sure will be oodles of errors 'til i get this terminal perfected. Please? 546 547 Man In Grey; I did it, and I'm proud! 548 Alex; What can i further do? 549 550 WELL, ERRORS IS CORRECT; DELUGE TERMINAL PROGRAM DISINTEGRATED HERE. I'LL FIX, AND SEE YOU LATER IN LIVES... PROMETHEUS(!) 551 552 Uh, er excuse me but this is simply Prometheus again, trying Deluge terminal again. Thank you, Mikey for 'xt'. Sd8408.28 553 *************************************************************** 554 What?! You mean my poor old tube amplifiers are obsolete? 555 Golly, what ever shall I do? I think I'll just keep them, 556 they work perfectly well, and sound good too. Besides, they 557 hav sentimental value as I designed and built them myself. 558 (I guess that dates me huh?) I do have a transsistorised amp 559 as well, the tube amps are my backup units that I use when 560 something goes wrong with the transsistor amps. Currently 561 the transistor amp is sitting in a corner with a blown driver 562 transistor (40410) The only thing about the tube amp that 563 is not as good as the transistor amp is that it isn't as 564 powerful. But, since the tube amps have all the power I need, 565 that isn't really a problem. My quad system sounds just fine 566 them thank you. 567 *********************** CISTOP MIKEY *********************** 568 Mikey! You remember tubes? I remember tubes. 6L6's in push pull parallel. Dc on 569 the filaments. Hum anyway. Humungous power transforers, ultra linear output 570 transformers---. Solid state notwithstanding, them as good old days. 571 ************************************************************** 572 REMEBER THEM? I WAS WEENED ON TUBES. AT THE TIME,TRANSISTORS WERE 573 JUST INTERESTING PLAY TOYES. ALL SERIOUS DESIGN WORK WAS STILL 574 BEING DONE WITH TUBES. AS A RESULT, IT TOOK ME UNTIL 1970 BEFORE I 575 REALLY UNDERSTOOD TRANSISTORS. ODDLY, IT WAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF TTL 576 LOGIC THAT BROKE THRU THE BARIER, ONCE I FINALLY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS 577 REALLY HAPPENING INSIDE THE BEASTS, I THEN UNDERSTOOD HOW THE TRANSISTOR 578 REALLY WORKED. UNFORTUNALY, NOW I SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTEN HOW TUBES WORK! 579 LETS SEE, ARE THEY PNP OR NPN..... 580 ********************* CISTOP MIKEY ****************************** 581 I'll try again.. Hello Pam? Are you out there? 582 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 583 MY FATHER HAS A TUBE AMP THAT WORKS PERFECTLY WELL, AFTER I FIX WHAT I BROKE ON 584 IT. HEY MIKE, IF YOU READ THIS, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT USUALLY CAUSES A CRACKLING 585 NOISE IN A TUBE AMP? ONE THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN AMPLIFIED ARC LIGHT. (GADS) 586 (I TESTED ALL TUBES AND THEY WORK PERFECTLY) I LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT TUBES BEC 587 AUSE OF MY OWN CURIOSITY. THE DESIGNS THAT I JUST LOVE TO FIX ARE THE HYBRID MIX 588 ES OF TUBES AND TRANSISTORS. A MESS. I ALSO HAVE A 25 YEAR OLD B/W TV THAT IS EN 589 TIRELY TUBES. I REGULARLY GIVE IT INFUSIONS OF PARTS, TUBES AND ONCE EVEN A SCRA 590 P TUNER THAT COULD BE CONNECTED TO A UHF TUNER. THAT TV HAS TAKED QUITE A BEATIN 591 OVER THE YEARS AND I WONDER IF IT WILL OUTLAST ME. NO ONE SHOULD FORGET TUBES, 592 AFTER ALL, YOU ARE PROBABLY STARING INTO ONE. 593 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++0000001TED++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >