From: THE SPECIALIST To: ZOT GNOP Subject: ,, Date & Time: 09/06/90 14:45:37 Message Number 8602 Nan Desu Ka! Kinjite! Kinjite! Domo... =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: Rules of.. Date & Time: 09/06/90 15:52:44 Message Number 8605 >If Nature intended for milk to be homogenized... ...she wouldn't have given cows different spigots for lowfat milk and cream. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/06/90 15:54:58 Message Number 8606 >You have several guitar players to choose from, a couple of drummers, >a pair of kinda-keyboardists, and even a clarinet player! What do >you think? Methinks we have one WEIRD band coming up... Now, if we could only find someone who can sing. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: ZOT GNOP Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/06/90 16:00:21 Message Number 8607 Just out of curiosity, how many of y'all in JB&B read music? And how many only play it by ear? Once we have an idea of what we sound like, anyone want to help write some tunes? Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: SPELLWIND Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/06/90 16:01:50 Message Number 8608 >Japanese is not that hard to learn, written or spoken. From what I've heard, the grammatical theory behind Japanese isn't that bad. BUT, not only are there huge problems learning the different pictographs (I know about fifty -- and that's tough), but also the spoken Japanese is extremely colloquial. In other words, they have and use a lot of expressions. (They've had some three thousand years to do it in... unlike English.) I'm sticking with Spanish, German, and maybe (in the future) Arabic. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: RUFUS To: SPELLWIND Subject: Really? Date & Time: 09/06/90 16:13:36 Message Number 8609 >I've already started to learn [Japanese]......Hmmm--does this mean I'm >a natural born business-man? No. =========== From: MAX To: TURTLE Subject: CD's Date & Time: 09/06/90 20:17:38 Message Number 8614 I don't think we would end up with something with significantly better sound reproduction and higher resolution, actually. By today's standards of digital recording they /aren't/ that bad, and the difference between, say, the sampling rate of CDs, DAT and a NeXT computer looks much better on paper than it does in practice, which was my original quibble. I don't think CDs are the be-all and end-all of sound reproduction, but I expect them to be around, in basically the same form, for the same length of time that LPs were. The difference between the sound recording on a 1989 LP and a 1959 one was significant, but they were essentially the same format, and you could take a '59 LP and play it on an '89 turntable without a problem (or, in fact, a '39 LP), and for the most part, you could take a '89 LP and play it on a '59 turntable without many ill effects (you'd lose some of the fidelity and the record would wear out faster due to a larger stylus); the same will probably happen for CDs. In fact, it already has; there are audiophile CDs, like Mobile Fidelity's, with higher repro quality than the original specs for CDs maintained was possible, and there are CDs out there running around with 80 minutes of music on a medium whose original specs said 74 was the maximum. CDs have the advantages of being flexible, "upgradeable" in the way LPs are, and, unlike their nearest competitors, already in wide use. If you wanted better repro, you could be using a reel-to-reel with metal tape, but don't look for the new Billy Idol album on a 2400-ft reel at Camelot. (Not that I have anything against reel-to-reels; if I had the money, I'd probably get one to make the masters for silly mixed tapes I like doing.) =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/06/90 21:14:41 Message Number 8617 >...how many of y'all in JB&B read music? Yo. =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/06/90 21:15:17 Message Number 8618 >...spoken Japanese is extremely colloquial. It's also a tonal language, which is kinda difficult for a native speaker of an atonal language (like, say, any Indo-European language) to pick up. =========== From: TURTLE To: MAX Subject: CD's Date & Time: 09/06/90 21:17:39 Message Number 8619 >CD's have the advantage of being flexible, "upgradable" in the way >LP's are... Not really. You cannot, say, offer greater frequency response from a standard-format CD, because the bits just aren't there. Conceivably you could develop a new format for storing data on a CD and then create a player that could distinguish between it and the older format, but such a disc would be unplayable on a conventional CD player. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/06/90 21:23:54 Message Number 8620 If you want someone who sings like Axl Rose, I'm your man. hahaha =========== From: TURTLE To: MAX Subject: dog house? Date & Time: 09/06/90 22:24:49 Message Number 8621 >Chip was making a joke, not claiming that Turing invented the >Difference Engine. Do what to whom? Actually, my post was in dead earnest; I thought I'd gotten the two (Turing and Babbage) confused. As it turns out, I was right the first time; Babbage /did/ invent the Difference Engine. At the time I responded to Chip's post, though, I wasn't sure. Your advice about missing the point is very good; I'm sure there are many who could profit from it, lest they start sounding like a feline Mike Greenawald. =========== From: TURTLE To: SPELLWIND Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/06/90 22:28:04 Message Number 8622 >If you want someone who sings like Axl Rose, I'm your man. hahaha Not sure if you've noticed or not, but Axl Rose actually has an exceptionally good voice. =========== From: ZOT GNOP To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/07/90 01:41:53 Message Number 8625 I play by tongue, actually. I've found that my ears just aren't sensitive enough for music. =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: slugs Date & Time: 09/07/90 11:37:58 Message Number 8633 >Given this person's apparant (lack of) intelligence and mental agility, >do you want to share the road with her? ... Important decisions are (oops about) >your various governing bodies are being made by a person >who can't place an order at McDonald's. First and foremost, in this "democracy," less than half of all registered voters choose to use that right. Less than half of us are making decisions about our "various governing bodies," and apathy rode high in the last Presidential elections. (BTW, how many of y'all voted in the primaries?) Unfortunately, the youngest and the oldest voters tend to be the ones who vote the least. Secondly, let's face it: the bus system in Sarasota is terrible. In some communities (like Washington D.C.), people are lucky enough to have subways and busses that go for forty miles outside of the city. We don't. With the extremely rich elderly used to being very independent, what do you suggest they/we do? (And how about the poorer elderly?) Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/07/90 11:48:36 Message Number 8634 >a native speaker of an atonal language (like, say, any Indo-European >language)... One exception: Swedish is tonal. But, you're right. It's damn difficult to know the difference between "ser" (spoken low) and "ser" (spoken high) at first. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: dog house? Date & Time: 09/07/90 11:50:46 Message Number 8635 "Ha! This TuBa debate is getting out of hand!" -- Douglas R. Hofstadter =========== From: YNGLING To: THRUD Subject: spouses (spice? Date & Time: 09/07/90 15:17:51 Message Number 8637 Thrud, And ghod forbid my wife read over my shoulder while I'm reading/posting to a FEMALE...so /that's/ why I'm bbs'ing.....*sigh* The Yngling ( oh, you mean the ring was supposed to go on my finger.../not/ thru my nose? NOW ya tell me!) =========== From: YNGLING To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Laws of... Date & Time: 09/07/90 15:20:56 Message Number 8638 No, they're just taking advantage of the fact that the U.S. seems to enjoy playing the part of John Wayne in these global epics. A least this time we're accepting donations. Ya know, this may be a very clever scheme by Saddam-it....he starts a war; we kick his ass; we feel /real/ sorry for him; we re-build his country making it better than it was before; and in about thirty years Iraq leads Japan in the "Who Owns More of The U.S." contest. Hmmmm. The Yngling =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Singer Date & Time: 09/07/90 21:15:09 Message Number 8641 *I* can sing, and quite well, even if I say so myself! Although, I do better on harmony than lead... =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Read/Write Date & Time: 09/07/90 21:16:02 Message Number 8642 I play just about entirely by ear...unless you count reading the letters above the measures...THOSE I can play, assuming I alread know the song. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Reptile/Feline Date & Time: 09/07/90 21:21:26 Message Number 8643 Hmmm. Trouble in paradise? Now, I have to devide you to on the homo issue, and the wall will come tumbling down! Muhaaahahahah! And THEN, I will take over THE WORLD! MUHAHAHAH! =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/07/90 21:22:59 Message Number 8644 Yeah, but he dances like Davy Jones (of the Monkeys) in thier "DayDream Believer" Video. (Excuse the over capitolization above, I've been doing a lot of Pascal lately) And his voice is NOT that great...he sings like half the other "rock" singers out there...ie, like he's been breathing helium for the past half hour and then shouted himself hoarse before coming out on stage... "Welcome to the Jungle...." =========== From: BEATLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Animalism! Date & Time: 09/08/90 00:56:52 Message Number 8647 You know, oddly enough, I've had theories bound about in my head about reversing things. I mean, after we get the heavy metal, how much more forward can you go? I'd like to see a drastic change like from doo-wop to heavy metal over the NEXT forty years... that would be odd. We're already looking somewhat backwards for some things... =========== From: BEATLE To: ZOT GNOP Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/08/90 01:02:13 Message Number 8648 > "Chaos Dogs from Hell's Off Ramp" I have an idea. How 'bout I show you all a copy of a song called "What's the New Mary Jane"... all you need to play it is a piano and a accordion... NO TALENT NEEDED! Easy lyrics to remember: "What a shame Mary Jane had a pain at the party..." Oh well. Just seemed that when I first heard it it belonged on some album of music from hell, hence my spew. =========== From: BEATLE To: MAX Subject: CD's Date & Time: 09/08/90 01:08:34 Message Number 8649 > silly mixed tapes... tell me more. Sounds neat. =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/08/90 01:16:10 Message Number 8650 > of the Monkeys... I'm gonna get anal-retentive here... that's Monkees. Alright, i like their music. To some, that's a crime. oh well... Anyway, I can see some comparison between Davy Jones dancing and Axl Rose dancing, but there is quite a difference. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: BEATLE Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/08/90 05:15:08 Message Number 8653 I dance like Axl too... =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: ALL Subject: Open mouth... Date & Time: 09/08/90 08:28:29 Message Number 8654 Insert hoof... Chew silently. Okay. I goofed. Big time. (I tried to get this in earlier today.) Anyway, I will be at the animation festival this evening, and I won't be at the first meeting of JB&B. (If it actually happens.) Sorry. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: BEATLE Subject: Reversing... Date & Time: 09/08/90 08:33:16 Message Number 8655 >I've had some theories in my head about reversing things. I mean, >after we get the heavy metal, how much more forward can you go? Uh... lead machine gun? It's got a driving beat. >I'd like to see a drastic change like from doo-wop to heavy metal >over the NEXT forty years. Actually, heavy metal really started in the late '60s. There's always several kinds of rock on the scene. And you'd better believe they're going to get stranger and stranger. My crystal ball is broken, though. My best guesses for the music of 2030: By 2030, the basic structure of pop music will have moved on, finally. (Basically, believe it or not, all rock music is based on 18th-century composers -- changing the instruments, of course.) It'll have finally caught on to the ideas of Debussy and Ravels, and there will be at least one group aflame with ideas from them. Instruments: I'd say the electric guitar is here to stay. (Though it will be even more warped -- and finally a decent electronic one will be around and used.) Keyboards will become even more warped. Perhaps they'll be adding quarter-tones -- or just intonation -- for more neat dischords. I'll say this: ere will be at least one completely new instrument by then that doesn't exist now -- and it'll be popular. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: SPELLWIND To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Reversing... Date & Time: 09/08/90 21:00:09 Message Number 8656 Drums will not have much change.... ...........Drums are usually poor...... ........Maybe a couple of quarters....You Nover know, Drums could Win the Lottery. =========== From: THRUD To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Co-habitators Date & Time: 09/09/90 06:53:27 Message Number 8657 .....wasn't really searching for a way to get rid of my wife - I'm kind of attached to her. What I'm striving for is a happy medium. =========== From: THRUD To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/09/90 06:55:18 Message Number 8658 Fortunately, there is no limit to the number of designated beer drinkers you can have. Yo! Sweetheart! Bring me another round! =========== From: THRUD To: ZOT GNOP Subject: spouses (spice? Date & Time: 09/09/90 07:00:20 Message Number 8660 Female logic circuits - sounds like an oxymoron to me. Well, like somebody pointed out, my best solution seems to be to get her interested herself....no luck so far. To date, the farthest she's gotten is writting a memo to her boss with the simplest word proc I have - said afterward she could have handwritten it faster...i said "But if you did it more often...." No luck so far. =========== From: THRUD To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/09/90 07:06:28 Message Number 8661 Es tut mir leid, Ich kann sie nicht verstehen. =========== From: THRUD To: TURTLE Subject: macs Date & Time: 09/09/90 07:09:57 Message Number 8662 Alas, I too can not place an order at Macdougles. I just see the sign and my stomach goes into auto-retch. =========== From: THRUD To: SPELLWIND Subject: singer Date & Time: 09/09/90 07:11:44 Message Number 8663 If they need someone who sings like Bruce Springsteen do not - REPEAT- do not listen to 2live crew. =========== From: THRUD To: YNGLING Subject: spouses (spice? Date & Time: 09/09/90 07:15:39 Message Number 8664 I'm in an ongoing three way conversation on another board, and the woman posting is quite free with endearments - 'darlin, lemmme tell ya honey, etc' The chances I'll ever meet this woman are nil, but if Min saw, ohhhh, I don't even want to think about it. =========== From: YNGLING To: THRUD Subject: spouses (spice? Date & Time: 09/09/90 10:48:27 Message Number 8666 I was in a similar conversation, also on another board, that involved some good natured flirting and my better half DID see....had to talk mighty damn fast let me tell you........ The Yngling " So ya see your honor I was on this bbs...whats a bbs? Well, ummm... oh hell, just give her half.......:) " =========== From: MAX To: TURTLE Subject: dog house? Date & Time: 09/09/90 14:18:02 Message Number 8667 You're right. I thought you were being sarcastic, when you were merely being ignorant. My mistake. :> =========== From: MAX To: BEATLE Subject: CD's Date & Time: 09/09/90 14:22:01 Message Number 8668 > MAX> silly mixed tapes... > tell me more. Sounds neat. What sounds neat, recording mixed tapes on reel-to-reel, or recording mixed tapes in general? =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: THRUD Subject: Co-habitators Date & Time: 09/09/90 15:25:02 Message Number 8669 >What I'm striving for is a happy medium. Cross her palm with silver... :) Anyway, the only suggestions: find out what's bugging her, and fix it. (I doubt it's just the fact that you spend time on the computer -- it sounds like she feels she's being ignored. Prove she isn't.) Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: THRUD Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/09/90 15:27:19 Message Number 8670 >Es tut mir leid. Ich hann sie nicht verstehen. Ah, pero yo le entiendo perfectamente. Es necesario poner mayuscula en su palabra "sie," porque yo soy el unico unicornio. Tambien, no ponga la mayuscula en la palabra "Ich." Cuantos anos ha estudiado Ud. al Aleman? Puede hablar mucho mejor que yo (con mis dos semanas de ese idioma...) Carlos P. Unicornio =========== From: RUFUS To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/09/90 19:53:09 Message Number 8672 >Ah, pero yo...[lotsa Spanish I don't know]...Carlos P. Unicornio Me llamo Rufus. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: THRUD Subject: Co-habitators Date & Time: 09/10/90 00:05:14 Message Number 8674 Ah, well, if you can attain a happy medium, then that'd be great! I, unfortunately, could not. Good luck...! :) =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: THRUD Subject: Turbo Pascal Date & Time: 09/10/90 00:06:46 Message Number 8675 Ah, SomeOne who can Program In TurboPascal! I CanNot Design programs In TP5.5 very well, I HaveNot quite got the Format down yet...But I think that I'm GetTing used to Capitolizing in the MidDle of a word...Of course, I've just Begun; It seems like there is no End. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: THRUD Subject: German Date & Time: 09/10/90 00:09:58 Message Number 8676 Fraulien, kommen sie here mit der hosen in der hande, bitte. *SLAP* uh...Drie beeren, bitte...thud... =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: THRUD Subject: Schoolism! Date & Time: 09/10/90 12:06:56 Message Number 8678 Had to change the Subj:, "Animalism!" just didn't seem to fit this topic any more. I think I realized there was more to school then just socializing when my daughter started. The thing I have a hard time with is when she does something at home (ie- makes "those" faces and sounds when you ask her to do something she doesn't want to do..) and you reply "Is this the way you act at school?", to which she replies "No!". To which you reply "Why do you act like that here?", to which she replies "If I acted like that at school I'd have to go to the principle to get a paddling", to which you stare at her going "Huh?!?!?!?" because you know damn well she KNOWS that you're getting ready to "paddle" her for it at home.....social pressures!!!! I think I'll invite a few of her best friends over for her next spanking =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Yupper!!! Date & Time: 09/10/90 12:14:56 Message Number 8679 Great play....let's produce it!!! Put the kid in a business suit and the parents look punkish with tatoos, studded leather and stuff...hehe. Reminds me of the ol' National Lampoon joke with the same players but with the parents raising hell with their son because they found him "sneaking" up to his room to do his homework. How hard is it for kids to raise up above the level of their parents? Appears that in most cases the kids are either less then or equal to what their parents are.... too bad.... =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: YNGLING Subject: The Band (JB&B) Date & Time: 09/10/90 12:20:49 Message Number 8680 >bestowing this great honor.... A thousand points of light.....oooops, get your nose off the champagne bottle..... =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: THRUD Subject: omni Date & Time: 09/10/90 12:24:41 Message Number 8681 .....about subscriptions, I got a notice from Discover about 6 monthes before my subscription ran out, so I had some spare cash and re-newed. Next month I got TWO rags in the mail and after calling and writing and calling and yelling I got it straightened out. Then they had just cancelled my second subscription but NOT added anything to my first one. AHHHHHHH!!! Took almost a year to get it straightened out....ugh!!! =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: THRUD Subject: spouses (spice? Date & Time: 09/10/90 12:27:37 Message Number 8682 >think my wife's jealous of my computer.... Hell!!! I KNOW my wife's jealous...'cause she told me so!!!! At first it was the same as you, but lately it's ANY excuse possible to pull me off the 'puter when I'm on..."Honey, your son has his hand stuck in the VCR" "Honey, I've got to call my sister", "Honey, can you run to the store and pick up some milk since you're not doing anything"...AAAAAHHHHHGGGG! Welp, got me a modem at work now...lunch and break's are nice, and I don't mind taping my wife's soaps so that when she watchs 2-hours every night, I get to Post a while..where there's a board, there's a way!!! =========== From: SNAKEBYTE To: TURTLE Subject: Rules of.. Date & Time: 09/10/90 12:35:15 Message Number 8683 >attachments for paint shakers.... "Sorry, can't sell ya ol' Bessy, she's a low-fat cow and the wife's sort of fond of her. But Elly over there is 2% and I could part with her, or Daisy, but she's a half-and-half so she's not too stable..hehe" =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: RUFUS Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/10/90 15:04:50 Message Number 8685 R>Me llamo Rufus. Ah, mucho gusto en encontrarle, Senor Rufus. Me encanta conocer un hombre que entienda ese idioma con tan perfeccion. Me llamen Carlos, y me da muchisimo gusto en conocer a Ud. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: German Date & Time: 09/10/90 15:07:55 Message Number 8686 >Fraulien, kommen sie here mit der hosen in der hande, bitte. (Come here with your socks in hand?) Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: ALL LIONS... Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/10/90 15:11:40 Message Number 8687 (This is sure to get a debate started...) "The Bible is the inerrent word of God! Every single letter is from God! See, it says so right here!" "All of you are sinners and deserve to die!" "And all of you will go to HELL for eternity if" "you don't turn from your ways! Only Jesus " "can save you from your sins! Repent! Repent! For the hour is at hand!" "All of you, unrepentant slimeballs. God will spew you from His mouth if you don't immediately turn to Him." "If you don't give up your mocking ways, God will strike you down immediately. For God is of justice, and His mercy will not last forever. If you do not realize the one true Bridge between God and man, you will fall into the depths of the pit of Hades." =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Latin Date & Time: 09/10/90 18:46:58 Message Number 8688 Chinga te. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: German Date & Time: 09/10/90 18:47:25 Message Number 8689 "Hosen"= undergarments. Come here with your underwear in your hand. Slang. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Aaah, Date & Time: 09/10/90 18:50:08 Message Number 8690 Shaddup. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/10/90 19:56:56 Message Number 8693 Parlez-vous anglais? Hahahahaha Je ne parle pas bien votre langue... =========== From: ANGEL To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/10/90 23:34:21 Message Number 8698 >anyone want to help write some tunes? I've been known to pen a song or two? What kind of music are you looking for? =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: slugs Date & Time: 09/11/90 00:54:28 Message Number 8702 >With the extremely rich elderly used to being very independant, what >do you suggest they/we do? I've heard this argument before as it relates to the elderly driving. It's Manifest Bullshit (tm). You wouldn't give a license to a 14-year- old, or a blind man, or anyone else, because that person is "used to being independant." Allowing an elderly individual who is obviously incapable of driving to drive on the grounds that he/she "needs his independance" is a crock--and a dangerous one. In Cape Coral about three years ago, a nice elderly gentleman ran over and killed three small children and kept going--he believed he'd hit some trash cans. He was blind. He had a license. He "needed to get around." What utter, complete, unmitigated, ghastly bullshit. If you are capable of driving, you should be allowed to drive. If you are not, you should not. No mitigating circumstances. No exceptions. =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/11/90 01:17:16 Message Number 8704 >Es necesario poner mayuscula en su palabra "sie,"... Don't be anal retentive. You know what he ment. =========== From: TURTLE To: RUFUS Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/11/90 01:19:05 Message Number 8705 >Me llamo Rufus. Me cato Cassie. You aardvark Fester. =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Spanglish Date & Time: 09/11/90 01:27:27 Message Number 8707 >...me da muchisimo gusto en conocer a Ud. *snort* =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/11/90 01:29:32 Message Number 8708 God os omniscient, omnipotent, and love. See, it says so right here on the label! --- Kinda interesting thing happened to me the other night: I was talking to a friend of mine, and she said something along the lines of "God only knows." I said "I don't believe in God," and she replied "Neither do I, but I know there's a Goddess" with the sort of absolute conviction you normally see reserved for statements like "I know you hate this cough syrup, but..." As much as it's refreshing to see someone who knows, absolutely and surely, that there's a diety that's non-Christian as someone who's a Xhristian claims to "know" that /his/ god is real, it's still kind of disturbing. The nature of religion is such that ain't nobody can /know/ diddly-shit. Otherwise, there wouldn't be more religions than Oral Roberts has ill-gotten goods. Her arguments were more convincing than anyone else's I've heard so far, though... =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: German Date & Time: 09/11/90 01:34:47 Message Number 8709 >Come here with your underwear in your hand. Is that one of those "come back with your shield or on it" things? Hmm..."with your underwear or on it..." nope, don't think so. Never mind. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: TURTLE Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/11/90 05:48:56 Message Number 8716 I told him the fries were the best....... The only thing that comes close in my opinion are those curly fries at Chili's =========== From: BEATLE To: MAX Subject: CD's Date & Time: 09/11/90 06:44:46 Message Number 8719 > What sounds neat, recording mixed tapes on reel-to-reel, or recording > mixed tapes in general? Well, maybe it would be easier to answer the question if you clarify the term "mixed tapes". It just sounded interesting... =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Turbo Pascal Date & Time: 09/11/90 06:48:48 Message Number 8720 > ...Capitolizing in the MidDle of a word... Ah... are they just starting a city or are they seceeding from the country??? (Sorry, I know what you meant, but when I feel I have an above average chance to make humor work, I go for it...) =========== From: BEATLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: German Date & Time: 09/11/90 06:56:01 Message Number 8721 >> Fraulien, kommen sie here mit der hosen in der hande, bitte. > (Come here with your socks in hand?) What's the "Bitte" for? =========== From: BEATLE To: TURTLE Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/11/90 07:01:34 Message Number 8722 > I defy /anyone/ to produce better fries. Oh, they tell you not to make good fries? Again, just joking. Actually, I'm quite fond of Hardees Crispy Curls. I've been really wary of McDonalds fries ever since I was at a McD's in south Sarasota that gave me half raw/half cooked fries. They smelled like an unsanitary bathroom. =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Latin Date & Time: 09/11/90 09:21:56 Message Number 8723 >Chinga te. Poorest attempt at a curse I've ever seen... No sabes las luces? Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: SPELLWIND Subject: Japanese Date & Time: 09/11/90 09:24:59 Message Number 8724 Nein. Nicht speche der Inglishe. Spechen Sie Estonian? Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: ANGEL Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/11/90 09:26:23 Message Number 8725 Of course! I've forgotten about our resident playwright! I'm not really sure what kind of music the band "JonBoy and the Biohazards" might wind up doing (though the name has a vaguely heavy-metalish sound, I've only been involved in jazz and medieval bands before.) As it stands, all we have is a name -- and which instruments people play. As far as I know, no one showed up for the first meeting (due to the animation festival in Tampa...) We'll have a second meeting sometime. If we play well enough from written music (and we decide on a style -- like jazz, maybe? -- that requires it), I'd be more than glad to ask your advice on songs. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: slugs Date & Time: 09/11/90 09:33:05 Message Number 8726 >Allowing an elderly individual who is obviously incapable of driving >to drive on the grounds that he/she "needs his independance" is a >crock... Okay. You've said you've disagreed with my statement. Now, propose an alternative that allows elderly people their independence, yet keeps the roads safe. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/11/90 09:36:06 Message Number 8727 >McDonald's french fries are the best in the business... I defy >/anyone/ to produce better fries. Aack! You, sir, have obviously not gone to either Rallye's or Checker's. Not only are their fries invariably fresh (usually straight out of the oil), but they use some of the best spices I've ever tasted. (A strong second comes from Popeye's.) Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/11/90 09:39:27 Message Number 8728 >Her arguments were more convincing than anyone else's I've heard so >far, though... I'd love to have heard them. Ya know, the problem with proofs about God's existence is that most of them can be twisted into the proof of gryphons' existence... or into a proof of the supremacy of Bob. I've been convinced -- even when I went to a Christian high school and they were spewing these proofs left and right -- that the existence of God could never be proven; otherwise She would not be separate from the world; She would be a part of the creation. (For those wondering why I sound like a feminist with referring to God as a She: two reasons. Neither gender really applies to God. God neither has a penis nor breasts. The Bible even mentions: "God made them in His own image: male and female He created them." Because God has neither gender -- and it seems horrible to me to call God an "it" -- in this message, I refer to God as "She." Secondly, women (especially mothers) are traditionally associated with love, while males (especially fathers) are traditionally associated with justice. I'm trying to use that assumption. Now, back to the religious debate.) Anyway, you've never met a person who is as convinced of their beliefs as most "born-again Christians" are? Tell me: have you ever met a Muslim? Many of them are willing to die for their beliefs; and it looks like many of them will get their chance. I would say that in every religion, there exist fanatics who are convinced it is the "only way." Then again, in every religion, there are reasonable people as well who are fascinating to talk with. (I once had a fascinating conversation with a Hare Krshna. She had a doctorate in Indian cultures, had become fascinated by the worship of Krshna, and eventually joined the movement here. She got ten dollars -- and I never give to cults.) =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: TURTLE Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/11/90 09:54:33 Message Number 8729 Going back to the knowledge of God, even though I firmly believe Her existence can't be proven, I don't believe this means we shouldn't believe in Her. I can neither prove nor disprove intelligent life exists, but I can believe it does. Anyway, why am I a Christian (though I do make fun of preachers)? Mostly due to love of the Bible -- though I get sick when I see people misusing it. Partly due to my upbringing. =========== From: RUFUS To: TURTLE Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/11/90 16:09:34 Message Number 8733 >McDonald's french fries are the best in the business, thank you very >much. I defy /anyone/ to produce better fries. Do curly fries count? What stores are "in the business"? What will the fries be judged on? =========== From: RUFUS To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/11/90 16:16:56 Message Number 8734 >not really sure what kind of music the band "Jonboy and the Biohazards" >might wind up doing (though the name has a vaguely heavy-metalish >sound... Geesh, you can't decide on a name, who comes to the rescue? You need help picking your style, who's gonna help? ME! Yes, I think I deserve the title of agent. Sure, heavy metal may sound good, but you guys should be innovative. Why not something like "Thrash Polka"? Or even hard core death country. I could write some lyrics. Mommas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys lemme wear funny outfits and step on small puppies with cleated shoes [insert more graphic imagery] =========== From: RUFUS To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: slugs Date & Time: 09/11/90 16:21:11 Message Number 8735 > Okay. You've said you've disagreed with my statement. Now, >propose as alternative that allows elderly people their independence, >yet keeps the roads safe. Well, there's always the SCAT, the Senior Friendship bus (yes, I know it's had problems), other friends who can still drive, and family. Most retirement homes have bus trips almost every day. I'm sure some sort of volunteer service could be set-up, where people drive old folks to where they want to go. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Driving Date & Time: 09/11/90 21:25:01 Message Number 8736 T>If you are capable of driving, you should be allowed to drive. If T>you are not, you should not. No mitigating circumstances. No T>exceptions. Bravo! Well spoken! Hear, Hear! Author, Author!! =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: McD's Fries Date & Time: 09/11/90 21:27:14 Message Number 8737 I heard that McD's fries are not actually 100% potato. Any comments? =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/11/90 21:29:10 Message Number 8738 God is male. Goddess...what bullshit! =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Humor? Date & Time: 09/11/90 21:36:11 Message Number 8740 B>SP>> ...Captiolizing in the MidDle of a word... B>Ah...are they just starting a city or are they seceeding [sic] from B>the country??? B> B> (Sorry, I know what you meant, but when I feel like I have an B>above average chance to make humor work, I go for it...) So, what does that have to do with this situation? =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: German Date & Time: 09/11/90 21:38:33 Message Number 8741 Bitte means please. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Francais Date & Time: 09/11/90 21:39:22 Message Number 8742 Je parle Francais. Respondez vous en Francais, sil vous plait. Je me (SP Je le) trouve plutot bete. Vous ne parle pas Francais? C'est domage. Je ne parles pas Espange. (SP?) =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Dog House Date & Time: 09/11/90 21:43:29 Message Number 8743 CPU>...no one showed up for the first meeting... Oh, yes, someone did. And that fancy handwritten note you left did not make up for someone making an appointment and not keeping it, either. =========== From: MMA To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: good food Date & Time: 09/11/90 23:16:47 Message Number 8746 Thanks for the tips on good places to eat. I'll try 'em one day soon. Casa Lupita is really good,you'll have to try their fried ice cream. If you've never had it before,you're in for a real treat. I had denny's iced tea the other night. Upon receiving it,I asked if they had any that was stronger. The waitress told me that they mix the brewed tea 1:1 with water. Add ice to that,and you've got a tall glass of rip-off. Wag's makes some decent iced tea. MMA =========== From: ANGEL To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: ballads Date & Time: 09/11/90 23:57:58 Message Number 8748 Ah, if you are seeking heavy-metal, I can't help you there. 'Fraid I've not the ability (or the inclination) to produce that particular style. My stuff tends to blues and ballads. =========== From: ANGEL To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/12/90 00:00:24 Message Number 8749 > I defy /anyone/ to produce better fries. My personal favorite are the fries at the county fair sprinkled with vinegar. I always look forward to those great fries cooked in the open sandy air filled with dust deep-fried by a person with a huge goiter on the neck. Nothing like it. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/12/90 00:35:10 Message Number 8750 How about a Biohazzard symbol with crossing swords on the drom? =========== From: SPELLWIND To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/12/90 00:37:58 Message Number 8752 ..... ... ...... ...., ..... ........... ........ .....? =========== From: SPELLWIND To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/12/90 00:40:47 Message Number 8753 I'll restrain myself from 20 full page posts on how much bullshit Judeo/Christianity is...... =========== From: SPELLWIND To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Francais Date & Time: 09/12/90 00:43:12 Message Number 8754 S'il vous plait parlez lenement(sp?).hahahahaha =========== From: SPELLWIND To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Francais Date & Time: 09/12/90 00:44:14 Message Number 8755 Ou sont les toilettes? hahahahah. Veuillez en faire un dessin. hahahahaha Comment s'appelle cet endroit? Alter Reality. A combien de kilometres se trouve Paris? Excusez-moi, je suis perdu, veuillez m'aider. And for fat people: Poids maximum: 5 tonnes. For Amish: Interdit aux voitures hippomobiles. For boxers and Baseball players: Tournant a droite. For vulnerable men and femme fatales: Tournant dengereux. For virgins: Sens interdit. For sluts: Acces Translate these for them, someone. =========== From: BEATLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Humor? Date & Time: 09/12/90 06:58:51 Message Number 8758 > So, what does that have to do with this situation? Absolutely nothing. =========== From: BEATLE To: SPELLWIND Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/12/90 07:01:31 Message Number 8759 > How about a Biohazard symbol with crossing swords on the drom? I don't think that's the image they want to project. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: ISIS Subject: Hi! Date & Time: 09/12/90 16:29:43 Message Number 8760 Tara? Hi! Howya been? Call me if you still have my number. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: MMA Subject: good food Date & Time: 09/12/90 17:25:01 Message Number 8762 Yeah, I've been to Casa Lupita...I liked it, overall. 'Cept it was a little over priced. I prefer The Outback. I used to eat at Denny's all the time. (For breakfast.) I LOVE thier Steak & Eggs breakfast. They do a good job with the steak. I usually eat breakfast only there, so I have never really had a chance to evaluate thier tea. Man, it's been a long time since I've had wings...maybe I'll go for some tonite... Any body out there like Wings & Things? Maybe we could all meet there, and then move to the Dog House for rehearsal. I think I have a lead on a warehouse that we could practice at on weekends, but we'd have to move all the Amps there & not to mention the drums...whew! Maybe all the guitars could practice and then play with the drums at the DH... =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SPELLWIND Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/12/90 17:29:59 Message Number 8763 SW> I'll restrain myself from 20 full page posts on how much bullshit SW>Judeo/Christianity is.... No, no, I'd like to hear it! Really! =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SPELLWIND Subject: Francais Date & Time: 09/12/90 17:31:35 Message Number 8764 SW>S.V.Plais parlez lenement? Lenement? Ecrive en Englais... =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: SPELLWIND Subject: Francais Date & Time: 09/12/90 17:33:58 Message Number 8765 Hmmm. Near as I can figure: where are the toilets, how many kilos to (or do you think it is to) Paris, Excuse me, I'm lost, help me. Sens interdit...no entrance. Acces...enter here. When I said that I spoke french, I meant 'more than spanish.' =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BEATLE Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/12/90 17:36:33 Message Number 8766 Really, like, what do swords have to do with this group? Absolutely Nothing (tm). Abosolutely Nothing is a trademark of Beatletalk, all rights reserved. =========== From: BLACK MAGIC To: RUFUS Subject: Heinlein Date & Time: 09/12/90 19:04:23 Message Number 8770 Hehehehehe....very funny love! The Lady =========== From: BLACK MAGIC To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Appearances Date & Time: 09/12/90 19:06:13 Message Number 8771 Appology accepted...and actually, I am quite capable of defending myself. You should know that by now. Lady =========== From: BLACK MAGIC To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: Animalism! Date & Time: 09/12/90 19:07:58 Message Number 8772 :) It's nice to have you back. The Lady =========== From: BLACK MAGIC To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: HI!!!! Date & Time: 09/12/90 19:08:34 Message Number 8773 Thanks for the complement. I can improvise pretty well. Black Magic =========== From: BLACK MAGIC To: RUFUS Subject: HI!!!! Date & Time: 09/12/90 19:11:17 Message Number 8774 I'll smack you during break tomorrow! Lacey =========== From: BLACK MAGIC To: TERRY Subject: VH-1 Date & Time: 09/12/90 19:13:17 Message Number 8775 Hi...I'm okay, and you? Lady =========== From: RUFUS To: ANGEL Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/12/90 20:10:07 Message Number 8776 > My personal favorite are the fried at the country fair sprinkled with >vinegar. Now those are good fries. My parents consume them by the...well, they like 'em a whole lot. =========== From: RUFUS To: BEATLE Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/12/90 20:12:35 Message Number 8777 >> How about a Biohazard symbol with crossing swords on the drom? > > I don't think that's the image they want to project. I think the biohazard symbol is fine (it kinda fits in with the name), but what's with the crossing swords? =========== From: RUFUS To: BLACK MAGIC Subject: Heinlein Date & Time: 09/12/90 20:15:26 Message Number 8778 >Hehehehehe....very funny love! > The Lady I'd scroll back to the original, but considering I don't want to sit here for 10 mins. while the slugs spin the disks searching for some old message, I'll just say this: Eat More Armadillo. ...on the topic of armadillo, is anyone interested in purchasing an official Uncle Bob's Alligator Farm & Tofu Museum T-Shirt? Yes, coming soon to a Rufus near you, UBAFTeM shirts. Available in white and white, with your choices of light black, medium black, or double black printing. =========== From: RUFUS To: BLACK MAGIC Subject: HI!!!! Date & Time: 09/12/90 20:18:45 Message Number 8779 >I'll smack you during break tomorrow! > Lacey You're to good to me. :) =========== From: MAX To: BEATLE Subject: CD's Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:07:41 Message Number 8781 By "mixed tape," I mean a tape with a collection of songs someone other than the record company puts together... you take whatever albums seem to fit, select songs off of them, and record them. Nothing to it, unless you're David Kone. =========== From: MAX To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: slugs Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:10:16 Message Number 8782 > Now, propose an alternative that allows elderly people their > independence, yet keeps the roads safe. Public transportation. Yes, it's not as convenient as being able to drive anywhere you want, but people who honestly are unable to drive -- regardless of age -- shouldn't be allowed to "inconvenience" others by behaving in a hazardous (and sometimes fatal) fashion in the name of personal freedom. Somebody's going to get the short end of the stick no matter which way you choose (their independence versus protecting other drivers from the danger their independence may cause), but there is at least a potential for them to find other ways around. There is no potential left for someone killed in a traffic accident caused by someone who has forgotten the rules of the road, has no defensive driving skills and who expects everyone to bend over backwards to let them continue being behind the wheel without so much as a refresher course on the grounds that it's "age discrimination." =========== From: MAX To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: McD's Fries Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:18:27 Message Number 8783 On the big french fry box, the contents are listed as Idaho russet potatoes and nothing else. I have heard a lot of rumors about McD's using inferior supplies, but from what I've actually seen, they use the best stuff they can get in the restaurant business -- usually a grade or two higher than most fast food places do. It's a mystery as to how they make most of their food taste so bland, given what goes into it. =========== From: MAX To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:21:02 Message Number 8784 > God is male. Goddess...what bullshit! Eh eh eh. We are not talking about a feminized Christianity, we are talking about a different RELIGION. You can't prove what sex the Christian god is -- in fact, you can't prove he exists at all. The same argument can be made for the Wiccan Goddess, or, for that matter, for any other religion. There's nothing to say that the ancient Greeks didn't have it right and the only reason we don't all worship a pantheon led by Zeus is because Christ had better public relations people. =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: German Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:33:41 Message Number 8785 "Bitte" means "please." Is simple, no? =========== From: TURTLE To: BEATLE Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:34:27 Message Number 8786 For the most part, McDonald's fries are very good. Occasionally, some bonehead screws 'em up by sticking them in a fryer that isn't turned on or some other such mind-bogglingly stupid thing, but that isn't the fries' fault. When cooked /correctly/ they're about the best fast-food non-curly fries in existance. ...McDonald's is changing their shortening formula at the end of the year. I'm highly skeptical... =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: slugs Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:38:05 Message Number 8787 >Propose an alternative that allows elderly people their independence... I don't see any need to do anything of the sort. I simply stated that people who can't drive shouldn't be allowed to. It's that simple. You can't drive safely, don't. No ifs, ands, or buts. Your "need for in- dependence" has no bearing whatsoever on your ability as a driver; if the ability isn't there, you don't drive. Hey, it isn't like everyone who can't drive a car withers and dies because of it. On the other hand, people /do/ die when incompetent assholes take to the road. =========== From: TURTLE To: CHIP P. UNICORN Subject: mcdonalds Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:41:18 Message Number 8788 It isn't really fair to compare battered fries like Checker's to plain fries like McDonald's. Fries in batter generally taste better than fries without, but McDonald's fries are top-notch in the realm of plain fries. =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: McD's Fries Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:45:16 Message Number 8789 McDonald's fries are most definitely 100% Idaho Russet potato. McDonald's is the world's largest single consumer of Idaho Russet potatoes, in fact. Hey, wanna hear something scary? This area (Sarasota/Manatee) has been chosen as a test site for McPizza beginning in 1991--I kid not... =========== From: TURTLE To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/12/90 21:46:49 Message Number 8790 >God is male. Goddess...what bullshit! What an amazing message from a supposed agnostic! Anyway, you gonna defend that statement, or are you just throwing clay pigeons again? =========== From: ZOT GNOP To: RUFUS Subject: slugs Date & Time: 09/12/90 22:46:35 Message Number 8791 I say we deposit them all in the Canadian wilderness. Then not only will the roads be safe, but the will have retained their independence. You can't get any more independent than man versus nature. Of course.... .....that's just my opinion. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: BLACK MAGIC Subject: Appearances Date & Time: 09/12/90 23:49:14 Message Number 8792 Actually, your bark is worse than your bite...despite the fact that you are capable of defending yourself there are some males around here who act gallantly stupid. Truth be known, it's actually pretty fun teasing you. You really fly off the handle! =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: MAX Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/12/90 23:54:36 Message Number 8793 I agree....about Christ's PR people. But I belive God is male. =========== From: THE SPECIALIST To: TURTLE Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/12/90 23:56:46 Message Number 8794 Just throwing clay pigeons. =========== From: SPELLWIND To: RUFUS Subject: Drummer Date & Time: 09/13/90 01:44:23 Message Number 8795 Chip said something about medeival music... =========== From: MMA To: BEATLE Subject: logo 4 JB&b Date & Time: 09/13/90 02:11:12 Message Number 8797 How about a broken test tube. It represents the state of today's society. =========== From: MMA To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: good food Date & Time: 09/13/90 02:13:49 Message Number 8798 I especially like denny's Grand Slam breakfast. Don't get their nachos supreme though. It's not supreme in any way at all. (unless you're into a good case of indegestion) MMA =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Debate! Date & Time: 09/13/90 13:35:44 Message Number 8799 TS> God is male. Goddess... what bullshit! First and foremost, define "male." To me, male means the presence of penis and scrotum. Though Jesus was undeniably male, it remains to be seen whether God, as a whole, is male. (Because God has no physical body, I doubt he has either physical attribute.) I see no fault -- nor anything in the Bible -- that contradicts the statement "God is sexless." Because of this, it is equally inaccurate in our language to refer to God as He than to refer to God as She. I will switch between the two whether I wish to refer to God, the father- like Divine source of justice; or God, the mother-like Divine source of love. Chip P. Unicorn =========== From: CHIP P. UNICORN To: THE SPECIALIST Subject: Francais Date & Time: 09/13/90 13:51:42 Message Number 8800 Je ne parles pas Francais. Si vous plais, respondez vous en Aleman. Chip P. Unicorn ===========