The F I D O N E W S Volume 24, Number 33 13 Aug 2007 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | | | | FidoNet community. | | Netmail attach to (POTS): | | | | | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-960447) | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Netmail attach to (BinkP): | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:203/0 | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | | | \_______\(_| /_) | Email attach to: | | _ @/_ \ _ | bfelten @ telia dot com | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2 Death, How important is it? .............................. 2 Interzonal nodelist discrepancies ........................ 4 3. ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................ 6 FidoNet Software References .............................. 6 4. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 11 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 11 5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 13 How to Submit an Article ................................. 13 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 15 FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 1 13 Aug 2007 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists. -- Eric Hoffer ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 2 13 Aug 2007 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= Death, How important is it? Jeff Smith, 1:282/1031 I really wasn't planning on submitting this as an article as I somehow thought it that might in some small way to me diminish the tragedy of those that died. But after posting my initial message in the Fidonews echo and getting the responses that I did. I felt that something more needed to be said. The first questions that should be asked are. What is death? What does death mean to us as individuals? Some might say that death is simply the act of dying, the end of life, the total and permanent end of all vital bodily functions. Others might say that death is more of a transition. It is not my intention to get into the religious aspects of death. We all have our own beliefs about what death means to us religiously. I would like to think that most would at least agree that death is the end of physical life. I am sure that some will disagree simply because they need to. I make no judgments on what death might mean to them or anyone else for that matter. I can only judge what it means to me. In any event my initial post was to simply express my sorrow over those that died in Minneapolis recently. In making that expression I was not making any national, religious, or political statement. Death itself is unfortunate but isn't always tragic. People who die because they have reached the end of their natural life is sad but death really is waiting for us all. What makes death tragic is when people die before their natural time of life has ended. Both of my parents died in their 80's while they were sleeping. While their deaths were certainly sad I wouldn't call their deaths tragic. Questions have been asked if by mentioning the death of people in the US that I was somehow trying to say that American lives and deaths are more important than those of other countries. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I simply mentioned the event to share my sorrow over the tragedy. Unexpected death is sad and tragic no matter where it occurs or whom the person is who dies. Death has no nationality and knows no borders. Sadly it is the need of some of those still alive to put a particular level of importance on those that have died. I just don't understand that point of view. And resent being told that my expression is somehow inappropriate. Or that I am meaning something that I in no way said. To those I simply say that if you are predisposed to take what I say a particular way. Then there isn't anything I can say that will change your mind. You will only believe what you have already chosen to believe. Others continue to complain that my expression of sorrow is off-topic in the Fidonews echo. Yet they will hypocritically fail to comment on anyone else making their off-topic posts. Why do you think that might be? Why do they noticeably treat people differently based on what country that they live in? I will let people form their own opinions. It doesn't really matter if one or a thousand people died. It also doesn't matter in what country they might have lived. Why is it so FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 3 13 Aug 2007 important that some have to bring nationality into the picture? Why does it matter? Are we not all inhabitants of this same planet? If one of us dies, is there some special significance that should be associated to where that person lived? Does the life of some of us mean less or is less important than the lives of others? I know that some of these questions may seem somewhat naive considering the world that we live in today. All that I ask is that you think about the questions honestly and what your answer to them might be. Would I have made my initial post if I had known the responses I would get? Possibly not. I didn't think that the death of people was as much of a national thing as some seem to think it is. The death of the those here in Minneapolis while no more important than deaths elsewhere are more personal to me. In fact if the collapse of the bridge had happened 40 minutes sooner I might have been one of those involved. My daughter now tells me that she somewhat knew (A friend of a friend) one of the children on the school bus that was on the bridge when it collapsed. Yes, what happened here was more personal to me than say a similar event somewhere else but that wouldn't mean that it was any more or less tragic. I think that is normal and I would expect the same of anyone no matter what country they might live in. I am not sure how much clearer I can be in trying to say what I mean. It is also my intention NOT to get into a long protracted debate on the meaning of either life or death. I probably don't have enough time left for something like that. :-) Jeff Smith ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 4 13 Aug 2007 Interzonal nodelist discrepancies By Michiel van der Vlist 2:280/5555 In an article in FidoNews #24 of this year, ex-ZC6, Carol Shenkenberger announced the final demise of Z6 per july 26th. On that date the last entry in Z6 was removed and a placekeeper was substituted for the zone segment. No, this article is not about the usefulness of the placekeeper. It is about another observation that it triggered. July 26th is a Thursday, so if all went well, the change should make in in the nodelist of next Friday, #208. Well, it didn't. Not in the version of the nodelist that is distributed in zone 2 anyway. So I got myself a copy of the Z1 and Z3 nodelists #208. And yes, the placekeeper was there. The change did not appear in "my" nodelist until #215. So the Z2 nodelist is one week behind that of Z1 and Z3? For this change yes. But there seems to be more to it than just a simple one way delay. On Monday July 30th I submitted a change in the net 2:280 segment. Two nodes, 1026 and 4312 that had been flagged as Down for some time, were removed. The change made it into "my" nodelist #215 next Friday. But not into the nodelists as distributed in Z1 and Z3. It did not make it into Z1 until a week later: #222. So it seems the "own zone" is always a week ahead? No, because an even more intriguing discrepancy is that 1:275/311 is listed as Down in Z2 nodelist #222. But not in any of the Z1 versions that I laid hand on. This can not be explained by a mere delay. The only explanation that comes to mind that a change was submitted and later retracted. The change was processed, both for the Z1 and the Z2 list. The retraction however only made it in time to annul the change made into the Z1 nodelist, but not in time for the Z2 nodelist. Someone unfamiliar with the internal workings of FidoNet might easily conclude that it is the International Coordinator that issues the FidoNet nodelist and that therefore every member of FidoNet has the same nodelist. Well, it isn't so. It may have been done like that in the very beginning, but soon - if not right away - after zones were introduced the ZCs started issuing their own versions of the nodelist. They gathered the partial zone segments from each other and assembled their own version of the nodelist from them. This made sense in the days when sending files to another continent was expensive and slower channels than a direct ZC to ZC contact were used to reduce the cost. The versions distributed in the different zones are not the same. The most obvious difference is that the zones lists their own zone first. This was introduced by the first ZC2, Henk Wevers. His own mailer Dutchie did not use an index file to access the nodelist, it did a simple linear search. Since most lookups were within the own zone, putting that first speeded up the process of nodelist lookup. Other zones followed this practise. All this made sense at the time. But now, when we have almost instantaneous global communication at next to zero cost? A change I submit on Monday, does not make it into the other zone's nodelists until Friday next week, ELEVEN days later?! In 2007? Oh c'mon guys, we FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 5 13 Aug 2007 can do better than that! Why do we still have a different nodelist for each zone? All the reasons for doing it in the past no longer apply. Why not let the International Coordinator assemble a list and distribute that as *the* FidoNet nodelist. The only obstacle I see is that we do not seem to have an IC at the moment. There isn't a zone/1000 entry - the traditional AKA if the IC - in any of the five zones of FidoNet that remain. None of the ZC's seem to claim the position. Still, even lacking an IC, there is no excuse for all these delays. There is no technical reason that I can see, why a change on the net level that is submitted on Thursday afternoon by an NC, can not be included in in the nodelist that is available to every Fidonet member on Friday morning. What it takes is a bit of interzonal coordination. Something that never was the strong point of FidoNet, to use an understatement. So guys at the top of the *C hierarchy get your act together and do what it says on your hat: Coordinate! (c) 2007, Michiel van der Vlist. All rights reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 6 13 Aug 2007 ================================================================= ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 (Outdated) FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280 Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net | | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/ | | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003 Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38 (based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463 | | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005 Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70 | |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English) (based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru | | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004 Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 | | Website is in Russian only WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204 Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org | | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10 FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 7 13 Aug 2007 FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org | | support@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60 JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000 Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ | | Lanuis site redirects to above | | Squish is part of Maximus. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net | | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222 ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002 EZYCom BBS |BT |http://ezycom.sytes.net | |http://members.westnet.com.au/centuryp/ | | ezycom@westnet.com.au 3:690/682 | | v2.0 on 3 May 2003 Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org | | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ | | v3.03 | |Archives back online at: | |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/ MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802 Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004 Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com | | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001 Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net | | groberts@nexusbbs.net | | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002 | | [Note: No Longer under active | | development.] Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be | | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002 RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150 | | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999 FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 8 13 Aug 2007 Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net | | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net | | v3.10L Beta Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net | | support@telegard.net | | v3.09g2 SP4 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/ | | Last Update: August 2004 Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200 DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201 Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org Ruth Argust | | DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com | | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002 | | Website is down after | | past the splash page. Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com | | scott@jibben.com | | 1995-99 Release dates John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com | | support@johndaileysoftware.com Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | | nannette@shiningstar.net Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com | | Tel: (404) 256-9518 The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | jpritch@eisonline.com | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002 Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013 Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org | | last update: Jul 17th 2002 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de | |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm | | (English Version) | | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de | | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13 FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 9 13 Aug 2007 CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only) | | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999 FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460 | | support@freexp.de | | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot) OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004 | | (Site is in German Only) | | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004 | | Download Page comes back 404 not found. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600 | | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003 SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de | | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999 TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet | | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed | | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com | | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997 Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/ Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806 (Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001 TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | | transnet@ressl.com.ar | | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998 TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys | | are now available. Donations accepted. | | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program) Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net | | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230 | | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway | | Program. Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/ | | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan | | @spamgourmet.com | | Fido: 2:350/5 | | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <-> | | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system. MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl | | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 10 13 Aug 2007 | | Fido: 1:229/2000 | | FidoNet Nodelist Processor +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/ (in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings) +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.net http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu Note: most also provide FTP access (use ftp:// instead of http:// above) *=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=* Please send corrections & additions to: Robert Couture, 1:229/2000 E-Mail: rpa4email (at) rogers (dot) com Telnet: runekeep.darktech.org (Leave Feedback as Guest or create an account) Emeritus: Ben Ritchey, Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 11 13 Aug 2007 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.222 size 616.3kb date 2007-08-10 The nodelist has 5086 nodes in it and a total of 6869 non-comment entries including 6 zones 42 regions 311 hosts 337 hubs admin overhead 696 ( 13.68 %) and 637 private nodes 228 nodes down 222 nodes on hold off line overhead 1087 ( 21.37 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 423 ( 8.32 %) 9600 = 3907 ( 76.82 %) (HST = 79 or 2.02 %) (CSP = 0 or 0.00 %) (PEP = 1 or 0.03 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.03 %) (V32 = 1967 or 50.35 %) (V32B = 100 or 2.56 %) (V34 = 2700 or 69.11 %) (V42 = 2243 or 57.41 %) (V42B = 108 or 2.76 %) 2400 = 34 ( 0.67 %) 1200 = 5 ( 0.10 %) 300 = 717 ( 14.10 %) ISDN = 348 ( 6.84 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 1532 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 12 13 Aug 2007 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 2 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 2 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 25 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 204 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 2006 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1307 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 1857 ( 36.51 %) MailOnly nodes = 2853 ( 56.10 %) Listed-only nodes = 424 ( 8.34 %) Other = -48 ( -0.94 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-33 Page 13 13 Aug 2007 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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