The F I D O N E W S Volume 24, Number 11 12 Mar 2007 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | | | | FidoNet community. | | Netmail attach to (POTS): | | | | | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-960447) | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Netmail attach to (BinkP): | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:203/0 | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | | | \_______\(_| /_) | Email attach to: | | _ @/_ \ _ | bfelten @ telia dot com | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2 FIDO-HISTORY PROJECT 3rd Generation ...................... 2 3. ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................ 5 FidoNet Software References .............................. 5 4. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 10 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 10 5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12 How to Submit an Article ................................. 12 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 14 FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 1 12 Mar 2007 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= We cannot direct the wind but we can adjust the sails. -- Vince Lombardi ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 2 12 Mar 2007 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= FIDO-HISTORY PROJECT 3rd Generation By Ulrich Schroeter 2:244/1120 One Short Question The last Datteln Euro Con IV has passed without a note in the snooze but the meeting in the beginning year 2007 results with some fido- historical material that has been published since that on the web. Steven Leeman started publishing pictures from this international session on the web. A documentary film has been made late in the evening on January, 8th. Participients were: from Belgium - Ward Dossche, Steven Leeman from Netherlands - Michiel van der Vlist, Kees van Eeten, from Germany - Alex Woick, Robert Bashe, Uli Schroeter and from Russia - Vladimir Donskoy. Via video conferencing from Sweden - Bjoern Felten. Now about 2 months later, in the meanwhile storm Kyrill passes Europe, but one short simple question from Steven will still left open: Where to find old Nodelists? The Collection I'll remember me about a resigned fidonet member Gisbert Rudolph who has an archive of nodelists and nodediffs collected until his resign. But Gisbert leaves Fidonet about 2004. So where can the archive been restored? I've phoned him and asked him if its possible to recover his work. Gisbert gaves me his ftp address where i've got the hole archive. I've informed Steven, that i've found and reopened the collection. By the information from Gisbert and others, Gisberts archive was collection of other archives starting from the old yet offline FIDO-HISTORY PROJECT ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/fido-history The archive has been filled from around the world where old lists fidonews and paperwork has been recovered. Gisbert adds the Region 24 pointlist distribution to the archive and other Region 24 related material and updated the archive between 1995 and 2004. Updating Once the archive i've copied to my system i've started updating the archive upto actual issues of Fidonews, Nodelist, Nodediff, Region 24 Fakenet Pointlist and -Diff, Region 24 Boss Pointlist and -Diff. As the R24 RPK i've also have had an archive of R31, R28 and the Zone Pointlists. So i've also addeded these files to the archiv. As of a system crash on my local system in about 2003 i've lost most of the related nodelist-, nodediff and pointlist and -diffs from about 2001-2003. But others i've could recover. Michiel v.d. Vlist helps me, to complete the Region 28 Pointlist FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 3 12 Mar 2007 segments back to the year 1997 he has starting his RPK job. As of the different Pointlists formats i've restructured the archive to reflect different Pointlist formats (Boss, Fake, Fidouser, Points, Poss) and extracted all Diffs that has been saved in one zip package on a yearly basis in the older archive back to single archives. The Scripts Once i've noticed Steeven Leeman about the actual Nodelist archive he've started using a php script that runs thru the archive and lists all recovered and stored lists and diffs. http://www.fido.be/nodelist.php Dedicated to the work on another website, the nodelist_search script by Jerry Schwartz and WriteByNight at http://www.winramturbo.com/fnsp/arch-nodelist-diff.htm inspires me to add a form to the nodelist.php script to select the different lists archives. In the meanwhile Alex Woick (2:244/1351) sends Steeven an me a perlscript to import the nodelist (and pointlists?) into a database to make them searchable. This work is still under construction. Teamwork Most of all i've asked about old Node- or Pointlists sends me their answer, that they only stores the lists of this and the last year. But in two cases i've got archives from *Cs that helps to get some holes filled. Developers are also candidates where to find old list exspecially if they programs mailer and nodelist distribution tools. When have you looked thru your old floppys and tape archive the last time? Is there a list not yet in the archive? I.e. the starting Nodelist as you've started to be a node? Do you have a complete archive of Diff files, but no Nodelist? No problem. Somebody other comes with a nodelist and together with the Diffs archive all missing Nodelists can be recovered. One idea, not to loss the archive again, is to mirror the archive over sites. I've talked in the meanwhile with Kees van Eeten and we comes to the conclusion, if the mainwork of restructure and recollection is done we start mirroring this project. The 3rd Generation The FIDO-HISTORY PROJECT that starts with the ftp archive has been brought forward by the long work of Gisbert Rudolph, the 2nd Generation. Now, with a team of supporters the FIDO-HISTORY PROJECT runs into the 3rd Generation. Weblinks http://ambrosia60.dnsalias.net/fidonet/nodelist.php Nodelist Archive script (actual) FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 4 12 Mar 2007 http://www.fido.be/nodelist.php Nodelist Archive script (actual) http://www.fido.be/datteln/index.php Datteln Euro Con 2007 http://www.textfiles.com/fidonet-on-the-internet/nodediff.htm FOTI Nodelist / Nodediff Archive Page (till 2004) http://www.winramturbo.com/fnsp/arch-nodelist-diff.htm Nodelist Archive script (till 2001) http://www.writebynight.com/nodelist_search.php (actual) Nodelist search by Jerry Schwartz and WriteByNight ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 5 12 Mar 2007 ================================================================= ROBERT COUTURE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FidoNet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |MI |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 (Outdated) FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280 Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net | | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/ | | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003 Radius |MI |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38 (based on Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463 | | Last Release: v4.010 on Jan 3nd 2005 Taurus |MI |http://taurus.rinet.ru (Russian) 2:461/70 | |http://www.fidotel.com/taurus (English) (based on Radius) | | E-mail: taurus@rinet.ru | | v5.000 alpha on Oct 11th 2004 Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 | | Website is in Russian only WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204 Software, Inc. | | AUP 451.1 on April 26th 2004 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org | | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.10 FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 6 12 Mar 2007 FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org | | support@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60 JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000 Squish |T |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ | | Lanuis site redirects to above | | Squish is part of Maximus. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net | | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222 ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002 EZYCom BBS |BT |http://ezycom.sytes.net | |http://members.westnet.com.au/centuryp/ | | ezycom@westnet.com.au 3:690/682 | | v2.0 on 3 May 2003 Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org | | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final Maximus BBS |B |http://maximus.sourceforge.net/ | | v3.03 | |Archives back online at: | |http://maximus.outpostbbs.net/ MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802 Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | v0.60.0 on June 5th 2004 Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com | | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001 Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net | | groberts@nexusbbs.net | | v0.99.41-Beta on Oct 16th 2002 | | [Note: No Longer under active | | development.] Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be | | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002 RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150 | | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999 FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 7 12 Mar 2007 Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net | | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net | | v3.10L Beta Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net | | support@telegard.net | | v3.09g2 SP4 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/ | | Last Update: August 2004 Cheepware |DU |http://outpostbbs.net Sean Dennis | | sean@outpostbbs.net 1:18/200 DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201 Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org Ruth Argust | | DoorMUD |D |http://doormud.com | | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002 | | Website is down after | | past the splash page. Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com | | scott@jibben.com | | 1995-99 Release dates John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com | | support@johndaileysoftware.com Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | | nannette@shiningstar.net Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com | | Tel: (404) 256-9518 The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | jpritch@eisonline.com | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002 Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013 Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org | | last update: Jul 17th 2002 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de | |http://www.apoint-mail.de/indexe.htm | | (English Version) | | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de | | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13 FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 8 12 Mar 2007 CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de (German Only) | | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999 FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460 | | support@freexp.de | | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot) OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004 | | (Site is in German Only) | | mk@openxp.de v3.8.15 Beta Feb 10th 2004 | | Download Page comes back 404 not found. +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600 | | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003 SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de | | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999 TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet | | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed | | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com | | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997 Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/ Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806 (Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001 TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | | transnet@ressl.com.ar | | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998 TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.start.ca/software/multiboard Communications, Inc.| | Unsure about support now but Free Keys | | are now available. Donations accepted. | | v3.5 (Note: KeyGen is a Windows Program) Ifmail |UI |http://ifmail.sourceforge.net | | crosser@average.org 2:5020/230 | | Ifmail is a FTN <-> E-Mail/News Gateway | | Program. Meltdown-BBS |UI |http://meltdown-bbs.sourceforge.net/ | | meltdown-bbs.project.petkan | | @spamgourmet.com | | Fido: 2:350/5 | | Meltdown-BBS is an FTN <-> | | Web/PHP/MySQL BBS forum system. MakeNL |U | http://hub2000.darktech.org/makenl | | fidonet.hub2000 [at] gmail [dot] com FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 9 12 Mar 2007 | | Fido: 1:229/2000 | | FidoNet Nodelist Processor +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/ (in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings) +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.net http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu http://www.bbsfiles.com http://hobbes.nmsu.edu Note: most also provide FTP access (use ftp:// instead of http:// above) *=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=* Please send corrections & additions to: Robert Couture, 1:229/2000 E-Mail: rpa4email (at) rogers (dot) com Telnet: runekeep.darktech.org (Leave Feedback as Guest or create an account) Emeritus: Ben Ritchey, Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 10 12 Mar 2007 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.068 size 639.6kb date 2007-03-09 The nodelist has 5306 nodes in it and a total of 7135 non-comment entries including 6 zones 46 regions 323 hosts 358 hubs admin overhead 733 ( 13.81 %) and 644 private nodes 208 nodes down 244 nodes on hold off line overhead 1096 ( 20.66 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 448 ( 8.44 %) 9600 = 4100 ( 77.27 %) (HST = 80 or 1.95 %) (CSP = 0 or 0.00 %) (PEP = 1 or 0.02 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.02 %) (V32 = 2082 or 50.78 %) (V32B = 117 or 2.85 %) (V34 = 2843 or 69.34 %) (V42 = 2373 or 57.88 %) (V42B = 127 or 3.10 %) 2400 = 37 ( 0.70 %) 1200 = 5 ( 0.09 %) 300 = 716 ( 13.49 %) ISDN = 368 ( 6.94 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 1574 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 11 12 Mar 2007 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 7 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 2 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 2 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 25 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 214 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 2165 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1317 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 1920 ( 36.19 %) MailOnly nodes = 2981 ( 56.18 %) Listed-only nodes = 435 ( 8.20 %) Other = -30 ( -0.57 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 24-11 Page 12 12 Mar 2007 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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