Hey Swamp Ratte, thanks for giving us an AE. I upped a couple irrelevant files...textfile.primer which I feel still applies today but is stoopid and star.fyter.agnda which is a file I been thinking to write for a while...doesn't real apply these days as everything is dead and gone. Anyway, once again thanks for the AE. The cDc files have really matured since the beginning. I enjoy the stories. Concerning the cdc ZIPs: us applers have a shit time trying to reformat the files for apple format (ie. ascii 13s instead of ascii 10s terminating the lines...not to mention not being able to unzip them in the first place...I had to xfer them to a friend and have him unzip them then xfer them back...pain in the ass)...would it be possible to have a shrinkit archive of all the latest cdc releases also? Twould be much appreciated. Thanks