Apollo BBS Archive - September 1989

Apollo BBS Archive - September 9, 1989


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Message: 5876
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Hathaway
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 07:11:24

Why is resource-rich Canada so poor?

Message: 5877
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 07:11:30

Fine.

Message: 5878
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Answer!
Subject: Taranto/Canada
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 19:11:27

Socialized medicine!

Message: 5879
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Canada
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 19:25:41

Resource-rich Canada is so poor because of Madatory Insurance .......

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Message: 3386
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Hawley
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 07:12:21

I'd kill him for nothing.

Message: 3387
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer !
Subject: Last
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 15:05:48

Fine by me.

Message: 3388
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last two
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 17:26:14

Can I watch?

Message: 3389
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Shit-Chat!
Subject: JT on Hawley
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 19:30:20

        If you could go just a little bit lower than 'nothing', I will
take you up on your offer ...........
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Message: 60810
Author: Mister Deity   *** THIS WAS ME ***
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike/Cliff
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 03:37:12

Rod is rather sleepy and after reading your latest posts, He said that you
both will get a more comprehensive answer tomorrow.  Bet you can hardly
wait.

Rod doesn't see His posts as NEGATIVE.  He hasn't been reading anything much
at all except the Az. Republic.  His brain is somewhat 'over-active' and He
likes to think up strange situations of a religous nature to expound upon.

There hasn't been a religious discussion on this board in quite some while
and He (Rod) likes to see if He has evolved in this topic.  He knows full
well that the topic He chooses will turn to other matters.  He is enjoying
'riling' up the Christians of Apollo during this period.

He really hates when He types in the posts.  His face becomes contorted as
Hell and many times one can see smoke pouring from His ears.  He keeps a
sawed off shotgun on His lap and at times He just fires it into the ceiling
for no apparent reason.  

Well, I am tired too.  It's been a long day and sleep will be soon to come. 
Even Deities need rest.  But you all must know that as it says in the Good
Book, "and He rested on the seventh day."  Yawn!

                                        God

Message: 60811
Author: Ed Margraff
Category: Question?
Subject: Williams/60809
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 04:31:57

What about John Tesh?

Message: 60812
Author: Ed Margraff
Category: Question?
Subject: Carter on Clampett
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 04:44:51

Unlike Mr. Clampett, I have nothing against Texans.  People from Kansas, 
however, are the scum of the Earth.  They're so damn snotty, ever since the
"Wizard of Oz".  You'd think they wrote the Holy Bible.  So they got a bunch
of dwarfs to dress up in silly suits and inhale helium.  Do they have to
plaster Miss Ruby Slippers' face up on every damn billboard and highway
marker, like some sort of silly Greek Orthodox icon?
 
Yes, I can definately understand where Mr. Clampett is coming from.  Kansas
should be turned into a giant forced labor camp.  I'd prefer to carpet bomb
it, but we need the wheat, I'm afraid.  I also wish that George Bernard
Shaw was alive, so that I could pull out his beard hairs one-by-one.  Also,
anyone bearing a superficial resemblance to Oscar Wilde should be flogged.
There.  I've spoken my piece, Mr. High-On-His-Tin-Ivory-Tower Carter.  How
do you like THEM APPLES, buddy boy?!!

Message: 60813
Author: Jed Margraff
Category: Bulletins
Subject: dullards
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 05:04:47

I'm going to marry the very next BBS user who can distinguish between
vituperation and burlesque, be it man or woman.

Message: 60814
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 05:48:24

 For your information, my friend, I think that APS and it's parent
corporation is the biggest ripoff that even this state, known for ripping
off the public, has ever seen. Not only are it's rate payers footing the
bill for it's capital investments (Palo Verde being the most obvious), an
unheard of state of affairs, but the suckers are also paying through the
noses for Pinnacle West's bad judgement calls, such as Merabank and one or
two other losers.
 Mofford's attempt to further assess APS $44 million, which will probably
never see the light of day, would not affect me, since I live in a SRP area,
and would not put my money into any S&L, let alone Merabank, who seems to
have such a penchant for poorly managing the money placed in their trust.
 My sympathy really goes to all the little people who are being so hard
pressed by exorbitant power bills that all they can do is watch their hard
earned money go down the bottomless pit of Pinnacle West policies.
 What's the answer Cliff? Darned if I know! I just know that, when I look
for another place to live, one of the first things I ask is who serves up
the power. If it's APS, I forget the next question and leave.

Message: 60815
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/ Jeff & my wife
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 05:50:20

And I thought I was keeping a pretty good eye on her too! Oh well it just
shows to go ya. Never trust a smiling dog or a working woman!

Message: 60816
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Christianity
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 06:01:22

 Atheists and agnostics do not refrain from running amok because they don't
believe in the Ten Commandments, Ann. They refrain from running amok for the
same reasons all the rest of us do. There are laws that prohibit such
behaviour, and nobody wants to run afoul of the law. Those laws, at least
most of them, just happen to have their foundations in the original
commandments and laws given to Moses by God. Ask any lawyer. Our modern laws
have been modified, of course, and many of them have been based on situation
ethics, but the foundation is there, nevertheless.
 As to the Inquisition , Crusades, (the reformation wasn't bloody), or the
situation in Ireland, don't blame "Christianity". Those events were people
problems, not Christian problems. Christianity is God's way of reaching out
to the world in love. Many people down through the years have, as people
will, twisted and warped the Christian message for their own purposes, for
personal gain or whatever reason. Try to look past the people and to the God
of the message, and you will get quite a different perspective.

Message: 60817
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff Polynesians
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 08:02:00

I have read about them and I think your discription was a little harsh. My
point was - Christianity made them worse, not better. All uncililized
cultures were brutal to a certain extent and murdered one another - but take
a look at our Christian nation. I would say we are 85% Christian - but our
jails are full - crime is on the rampage - religion has become a business
etc. etc. etc. 
When the missionaries went to Tahiti - it was a paradice of happy people. If
there was brutality and murder, it was rare. What in the heck did the
Commandments do for them except to put the fear of God in them? They didn't
think nakedness was a sin until we told them so. They had their gods, why
didn't we leave them alone? -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 60818
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/last
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 08:21:31

I was not talking about obeying the laws - was talking about everyday living
with our fellow man. I.E. treating people fairly when you are in a business
- not passing around nasty gossip about someone - helping on old lady cross
the street - doing things for others without rewards - forgetting and
forgiving etc. - those kind of things that have nothing to do with being a
Christian or a religion.
Re: the Inquisition, Crusades and the Reformation (yes it was bloody! Where
did you get the idea it wasn't?) and Ireland - why arn't the Christians
blamed for those events? Who else to blame? I said it before and I'll say it
again "more people have died over the centuries in the name of God than for
anything else, including all our great wars!" This also includes other
countries with other gods - Mohammed, Buddah, Allah etc. I don't know about
those other religions, but Christians should have known better. Right? Don't
they have the Commandents as their guide - the Bible? The latter is bloodly
itself. Not blame the Christians? Who the heck do you blame? The Atheists?
                      -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 60819
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 14:07:51

Re:  "I have noticed that some people see hate in my messages but that hate
is
what is in their soul, not mine."
        
Rod, I can understand why some would think there is "hate" in your messages. 
After getting to know you better I know you don't hate Christians, but there
was a time I thought you did.  It was because of your harsh words. ie.
Die hard religionists still keep the
faith until their body and brain die.
When you say things like that, some take offense and think you hate them. 
And we know that you have said a lot worse.
        
Re:  "I save every last message
that appears on this system."

Are you kidding me?  How many megabytes do you have stored so far?  I used
to save a lot from the BBS,s but it was accumulating at the rate of about 2
megs a month.  Now I just keep it for about a month and dump it.

Message: 60820
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 14:18:46

Re:  "they wear white sheets at night, make their black brothers ride in the
back
of the bus.  And won't eat in the same restaurants as they."

Christians don't do those things either.  It certainly isn't in the Bible. 
On the contrary, the Bible says to love your neighbor as yourself.  From
what I read in the newspaper, I would say there are a lot of people who
claim to be Christians yet they lie, hate, and murder.  But if you are
familiar with what the bible teaches, you know that people who lie, hate,
and murder cannot be following Jesus' example.

You seem to make a point of singling out weirdos who claim they do their
thing in the name of Christ and then using them as an example of how wrong
and bad Christians are.  That's distortion.

Message: 60821
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 14:19:49

Re:  "co-dependent Jesus freak"

What's that?  I haven't heard that term before.

Message: 60822
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mr. Deity
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 14:22:18

Re:  "He really hates when He types in the posts.  His face becomes
contorted as
Hell and many times one can see smoke pouring from His ears.  He keeps a
sawed off shotgun on His lap and at times He just fires it into the ceiling
for no apparent reason."

What a riot!  I got a good laugh at that one.  I can just picture it in my
mind.

Message: 60823
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 14:29:51

Re:  "I would say we are 85% Christian"

I would say the number is a lot lower than that.  I know a lot of people
claim to be a Christian, sort of like:

Hey!  Are you a Christian?  Sure I'm a Christian; I was born in America
wasn't I?

I think a lot of self proclaimed Christians don't even know the meaning of
the word.  They don't read the Bible; they don't follow it's guidlines, and
if they pray, it's usually to ask for a new car or something like that.  I
would say the number of Christians in the US of A is more on the order of 20
percent.  

Message: 60824
Author: Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Margraff
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 16:59:37

I think anyone whos last name contains two "f's" should be
microwaved at CBS's main feeder during re-runs of The Wizard of
Oz. This oughtta remove the plastic veneer.
 
So, Mr. Swim-around-in-the-ignorance Margraff. How do you like your
Microwaves? Pulse modulated of phase modulated ?

Message: 60825
Author: Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rods minions
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 17:01:14

No wonder the landlord is upset with him. He keeps blowing
them there holes in the roof with that scatter gun.
 
I *HATE* to see good ammo go to waste.

Message: 60826
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ed Margraff/Tesh
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 17:29:45

Sure, why not?

How'se about making it simple, "I hate everything and everybody".  Hope
that covers it.  Trustfully, this will make some people happy.

Message: 60827
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/Megabytes
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 17:40:41

I have the past two and a half years of Apollo on my current system disks. 
Each disk holds 716K and I have quite a few that are full.  On my previous
C-64 system I have about a year, year and a half on disk.

Of course I do not have anything from the FEMale SIG but I do have quite a
lot from CHRISTIANS OF APOLLO SIG.  Interesting SIG there.

When a person, any person carries around hate it consumes them and acts as a
negative influence.  This saps strength.  The opposite is true of love as
you should know.  I have a lot of love in me.  But on the other hand I like
to get into some heads.  If they hate me for my message content then it is
their loss, not mine.  People need to think more.  Bye Bob

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Subject:Yo HO, Bob again.

Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop
 1:The term co-dependent Jesus freak was yelled over my shoulder as I was typin
 2:in that message.  I don't know what it means, I am just a robot for Satan.
 3:
 4:Which entity or non-entity would you like me to have, My Dinner With......
 5:next, Bob.  How about Satan?  Or Jesus?
 6:
 7:And once someone has read the Bible then it is time to get on to better and 
 8:more modern books.  Sure, I read it quite a few times when I was a fool for 
 9:Christ.  But I learned not to live in the past and believe in myths.
10:
11:I try to lead a good life and I treat others like I would like them to treat
12:me.  This has NOTHING to do with ANY religion.  It has everything to do with
13:a human animal trying to survive and be happy in a far from perfect world.
14:
15:I truly believe that Christianity (as well as other cult type groups) has 
16:done far more damage to humans than it will ever do good.
17:
18:                                Rod
19:end

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Message: 60829
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Answer!
Subject: Mike/ammo
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 17:50:37

But I have pictures of many of the Apollo crowd pasted on my ceiling.  After
each shot I feel less stressful.

Message: 60830
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oudin
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 18:55:01

I think far more people have been killed in the name of socialism (primarily
atheistic) than in the name of religion.

Message: 60831
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Religion
Subject: Rod on Think
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 22:19:16

        I do think Rod... but because I don't think like you, you will keep
insulting my mind as being an unthinking mind.   So who slings the insults?
Answer... But Rod of course!  Why?  Because he HATES Christianity!
        
        Not all KKK are Christians...  There are those who JUST DON'T LIKE
BLACKS, and that is all there is to it.  Why do you Rod, Lump ALL
Christians behind the mistakes of the few?  Man makes mistakes.. He never
claimed to be PERFECT... but this is all part of FREE WILL!  Good and Bad,
and Right and Wrong can be like Day and Night.  There are opposites for
almost everything.  A life style as a pefectly programed robot does not
excite me one bit!

        I Accept the challenge that life brings with it... I ain't no wimp
that thinks the world owes me a free ride in life.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60832
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Religion
Subject: Ann: Answer
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 22:28:30

        Blame the Christians?  Blame the Atheists?  Who?  Why not just blame
"Man" for the errors!  Paul answerd your question...  I think you failed to
read it carefully.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60833
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Apollo Tips & Tricks
Subject: ill CMD
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 22:53:29

        Note to Bob Thornburg...  Nice posts with Quotes taken from other
posts..  Great touch...but  Look at your post 60820 for example.  You could
fix those first 3 lines with a very simple cmd while in the editor (when
entering the message before saving)  The cmd I talk about is the ill cmd.
It will take sever partial lines and make them into full lines.  Just for
laughs, why don't you do a  cmd (Update In Place) and then use the
 cmd and when it askes what lines, answer with a 1-3 (Meaning lines one
to three).
        This post was for you others that do not know this long standing cmd
in the editor.. It Fills in the lines or brings scattered text together.

CMDs like
this can
work very well 
when one hits a return
key
to soon. I will do this below EXACTLY like I have done it on the last 
seven lines.  But I will use the ill cmd on them.

     ^__ Above seven lines before a ill____ Below what a ill would do.

CMDs like this can work very well when one hits a return key to soon. I will
do this below EXACTLY like I have done it on the last seven lines.  But I
will use the ill cmd on them.  *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60834
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: For Dear Traci!
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 23:05:23

  Traci Kathryn Sibel and Ronald Duane Dennis were Married today (September
9th) at "Christ the King Lutheran Church" 
        
        A very warm 'Congratulations' from the Apollo SYSOPs Sandy & Cliff.

                *=*  Happy Honey Moon *=*

(-;}

Message: 60835
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Question?
Subject: .GIF files
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 23:12:06

        There are two art files in the ibrary uploaded by Anny ASSP the
Artist...  They are of the .GIF format available to the IBM type computers.
What I need to know is, can any of you Atari ST, Macintosh or other type
computers work with these files as well?  If anyone does so, please let me
know.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60836
Author: Karl Fulves
Category: Answer!
Subject: Mike C.
Date: 09/09/89  Time: 23:59:33

I prefer quaternary amplitude modulation, myself.

Message: 60837
Author: Karl Fulves
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann/whom to blame
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 00:05:08

John Tesh?
 

Message: 60838
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Cat.GIF
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 00:36:31

        I just gave it the correct name in the ibrary of OCELOT.GIF.

For you that have ownloaded it...  was it GREAT or what?

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

P.S.  Makes my HORSE that I am drawing look like kindergarden stuff...
Sniff!  (TM) Dean McCarron

Message: 60839
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Out at the Range...
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 00:40:55

        Well, I hang my head in shame....  I did not get a 90% or better
this time out, so I am back at ground ZERO to try and earn my pin... 
They don't call this the "Toughest Shooting Course" in the Nation for
nothing!   I am off to bed now... to CRY!

        Please Lord, let me knock the snot out of them next week.... Ha ha

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*  Cross out the 'Mighty' and insert 'Wimp'

Message: 60840
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/last
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 01:28:40

Now that was a good prayer.