Apollo BBS Archive - September 10, 1989



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Message: 60841
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Rod/Gambling
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 02:35:35

There have been fights and robberies involved with social gambling in AZ.  

To everyone who didn't know, I was kicked out of Tommy's because I refused
to 'donate' $150 per week to his legal fund.  In the last weeks before
Tommy's closed they were getting the dealers to 'donate' $75 per day, per
table.  Not all the tables, but all of the tables in the front of the club
(the good tables).  

This is the kind of thing that is ruining social gambling.  There are some
mafia involvements, but not a problem at most of the clubs.
 
As for why I didn't kick in the money for Tommy's defense fund, it wasn't so
much that I didn't think that social gambling shouldn't be defended, but
that the money was DEMANDED.

I felt that if I made money, I didn't have any problems giving them some,
but when I lost it was stupid to make it that much worse.  One night my
partner and I lost $2000.  I certainly wasn't going to give ANY money after a
night like that.

Message: 60842
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/blame
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 05:51:39

 Blaming Christianity as an entity as you have done, for all the evils that
people have committed over the centuries, is like blaming city hall (the
building) for the actions of the fools that have offices there.
 There's an old saying that it takes two to tango. Those who may have
mistakenly taken up the sword in the name of the Lord had to have something
or somebody against whom to take it up. Did it ever occur to you that just
perhaps those people might have been the persecutors, and not the
persecuted? 
 I'm not defending violence in any way, but before anyone goes around
pointing fingers at any group and spraying them with the same paint can as
they do those who have been bad examples of their cause should perhaps
reconsider modifying their position. There are far more Christians around
that exemplify the principles and practices that Christ taught than there
are the other kind. You are just looking in the wrong places.

Message: 60843
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/#60820
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 09:21:27

I'll be willing to bet 99% of the Klansmen are Christian. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 60844
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff on paul's post
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 09:28:35

RE: blaming .... you said blame man - but these were professed Christians
doing what they thought God told them to do - going to other countries
saying "you believe in our God or we'll kill you!" and they did! This is a
good example of what Rod is trying to say - religions have done more harm
than good. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 60845
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/last
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 09:44:44

I'm sorry Paul - AND I'm not pointing any fingers, but I do not meet many
Christians that "exemplify the principles and practices that Christ taught"!
It seems to me that now days they make excuses to act the way the want to.
I.E. My daughter belongs to this obscure church that had an abondoned car
left in their church parking lot. For some reason, they came to believe that
it was left there by dope peddlers and they decided to strip it and sell the
parts - some used the parts for their own cars. 
In the Bible Jesus says "render unto Caeser" etc etc - if that is the case,
how come churchs don't pay income taxes and do their share for this country?
Instead, they go out and buy more un-taxed land say in the mountains and use
it for retreats etc. Not to mention apartment houses and businesses.
As I said, I'm not pointing at you - you may adhere to Christ's principles
fully - but surely you can see that ALL Christians do not! The Bible is such
'mishmash' that anything one wants to find in it can be found. 
BTW - the Klansmen think they are true Christians and fully justify their
acts by the Bible. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 60846
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Religion
Subject: Klansmen/Ann
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 12:18:34

        That is so much garbage Ann... I am disappointed in you.  You talk
of a relatively few corrupt MEN, who CLAIM to be Christians, and you paint
ALL Christians in this picture.  You have again overlooked the fact MAN has
FLAWS....  Men are greedy, Men kill other men and men lie!  If you are a
TRUE Christian, you will follow a different path.... or at least TRY to.
Even a good Christian will wander off the path now and then...as s/he has
the flaw of being human.
       
        For the majority that do follow the Bible in its true content, will
be good men and men with honor.  No one hears new about them however, as you
must understand ONLY bad new sells.

        I lived in the South for many years... The Klanmen are not as you
see them on TV shows,   Sure, lots call themselves Christian...but are they?
In truth some hide behind a Bible and try to spread their human hate by
misquoting scripture, just like Rod purposely misquotes it.
        
        Atheist Drug Lords Kill, Atheist Communists kill....  Harp on them
for a while....  They do it in larger numbers too!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60847
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 14:03:31

Good posts. I agree.  

It is a VERY GOOD THING that God loves us.  Can you just imagine what this
world may be like if He didn't.  I'm telling you, I'd be afraid to go out of
this house at night.  Everything would just be worse.  Speaking of Him
loving us, I wonder just how much.  You know, my Mom, when I was a little
boy would tell me, by holding her outstretched arms as far as possible, just
how much she loved us.  Sometimes when she was angry, she would hold her
finger and thumb apart just a little to show us how much love she had at the
time.  I wonder if God does this.  For all I know He could only love us a
little.  After all, the Bible only says that He loves us, not how much.  

Perhaps I should 'invoke' him to have din-din with me and clear this matter
up once and for all.

Does He love Klu Klux Klan members as much as Baptist Ministers (probably
one in the same there)?  I don't know.

                                Rod

Message: 60848
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 14:05:42

What has the Bible said that you should live by?

Message: 60849
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: For sale
Subject: C-64 Software (FREE)
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 14:37:38

        I was cleaning out some more boxes left over from the store and ran
across some of the store demos and utilities we once used when selling and
working on the C-64 computers.   12 diskettes...with such things as:1541
Backup, CG TERM, Speedscript, screen dump, MLX, C64 Alarm Clock, DOS 5.1E,
C64 sound editor, Unscratch file, SX-64 Demo, FASTCOPY, Super DOS,
Diskmanager and others....    The price is FREE...  I was going to just toss
them, but thought there may still be a few Commodore 64 users.
        
        I would call first as I am going to give them ALL to the first
person who showes up to claim them...  No need to waste a trip, and NO, I do
NOT deliver!

P.S.  These are just copies..and there are no docs.  Sorry!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60850
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: In search of
Subject: Nice users?
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 15:03:04

        Gee Wiz, Traci has been an Apollo user for years...  Not one post of
congrats to her on her Wedding...  What thoughtful users I have here.

        I will zap this post in a day (if I can remember)

(Yes, that was a HINT you red blooded American BBS user)

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60851
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Traci
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 17:59:27

Okay Traci.  Congradulations on your marriage.  I may even get married some
day.  I saw your husband the last time I saw you and he looks very handsome.
Have a marvelous life.  -Rod

P.S.  I have no choice but to dedicate the next six messages from me to you.
It is my gift to you.  Sorry though because the messages are long and could
be very boring to some.  But, the board is dead today and is in need of
messages.

Message: 60852
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:00:23

(After doing my 'special' prayer which I learned from a Hindu Master
during the Sixties, I again invoked God to have a Chat with Me.)

I got right to the point so as to not waste God's precious time.  "My
friends and I would be interested in knowing how much you love us", I
asked?  "In your perfect book, the Bible, it clearly says the You love
man."  "Please define?"

"Before I answer, let's order some Spaghetti with Clam Sauce, I am
famished," God replies.  "You know, I created Earth quite a while ago
and then I put life on it.  I made all life in My image, sort of like
minature look-alike figures, only smaller and so very much less
intelligent than I."

Meanwhile, the waiter, a very handsome, olive skinned Italian, came
dancing over to our table to take our order.  "Hi", he said, my name is
Nick and our special tonight is 'Chef's Delight, spaghetti and Spam.
What'll you have?

We ordered the Clam while God quipped, "Spam wasn't one of My best
food creations."  "But", he added, "economic times are hard and my
little creations will, in a pinch, eat absolutely ANYTHING."  He
grinned broadly as He made this comment.

Message: 60853
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:01:02

"What about love?", I prompted, adding,  "I assumed you were in a
hurry."

"Hurry-Scurry", he replied, "There ain't much to do in this Universe
anymore.  To me, time does not exist.  It is like I know everything
that will happen, save for the minor events that are caused by man's
free will but that is all entirely predictable.  After all, it was I
who set the limits.  So, to me life is rather boring.  I just sit
around waiting for the next big event that I planned to come about,
ad infinitum.
  And then there are the humans who NEVER repented, although they
were given a great many opportunities to do so.  And now they are in my
'eternal torment area' to continually pay for their transgressions. 
And the number is slowly creeping up.  But, I for the most part ignore
that aspect because one becomes tired of watching it for so many eons. 
Besides, I already know what will happen.  The souls in Hell are
stripped of all of their earthly rights, freewill included.  It's just
the nitty-gritty, torment thing.  But they had their chance, didn't
they?" 

Message: 60854
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:01:40

"I suppose so" I mused, who am I to argue with God.  "I'll bet there
are an awful lot of homosexuals, pimps, druggies and murderers there,
eh?  But we are getting off the subject, I need a clarification of
Your quote, 'You love us', what about it?"

"Love-smuve", he exclaimed.  Let me ask you something.  Just say for
instance that you were the most powerful and most intelligent person in
the entire Universe.  That you knew how everything was going to always
be, save for a few very minor events, but nothing that would affect
you.  Well, one day you decide to create some life to share with you
because the thought of being by oneself, for all of eternity, is  worse
than being in Hell, believe that!  So, you make some firmament as a
base and add some little people.  You give them the best environmental
system you can think of and see that their bodies have all sorts of
defense systems.  And you give them ways of feeling intense pleasure
and intense pain."

God continues, "So, you start out with just a male model, like I did.
You watch him for a while and see that he is without like company. 
Sure, you talk with him quite a bit but you know everything in his mind
because you made him.  Well, you know he is lonely and you knew that he
would be, so you take one of his ribs and make a companion.  You then
add a testicle sac and the sperm system.  You of course watch the pair
in the foilage because there isn't anything else to watch and you

Message: 60855
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:02:19

arrange a little test in order to check your ability as a creator.
  You tell Adam, 'I have made lots of good things for you and Eve to
eat  but I have planted this one tree in the middle of your garden area
and you MUST NOT touch of the fruit.'  You then whip up a slithering
serpent that can speak and wait until Adam is fast asleep.  You send
the snake to her and have it say, 'Eve, there in the middle of the
garden is a tree, unlike all the others, and if you eat of its fruit,
you will find reward.'  She replies, 'But our creator warned us about
eating of the tree, I heard him tell Adam'."  In any event the rest his
History.

He continues, "When you make them, you add the free-will factor,
meaning that they could make any decision they want without you
butting-in.  But when Eve ate that forbidden fruit and became aware of
both good and evil, you decide to teach them and all of their
offspring a lesson that would span all of eternity (remember Hell?). 
You strip them of a good, year round environment, and you make them
feel ashamed of their private parts hanging about and add desert
wasteland intermixed with their lush vegetation."

"Well," He asked, How much would you love them?"  He then stretches his
big arms out as far as they will go and exclaims, "I love them this
much", indicating that He is trying to stretch his arms even farther
apart.  "It's just that Eve failed my test.  I NEVER make mistakes,

Message: 60856
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:02:58

never have, never will.  It wasn't my fault that Eve was tricked, it
was all her fault.  Blame her, I had nothing to do with it.  I just
made that serpent very convincing but what do you expect, I am God. 
Sure, I could have made it suspicious looking and unbelievable in its
manner but a perfect being cannot create imperfection, right? 
Certainaly the price was steep but I gave her a fair shake.  Life
isn't easy, you know, you gotta pay for it."

"But", said I, why didn't you use the same perfection when making
Adam and Eve as you did on the talking snake?

"Free will", He says, free will.  Eve could have just as easily have
said, 'no thanks' to the snake.  Then to this very day every human
would live in a garden environment, naked, would enjoy a mean tempature
of 72 degrees year round and could pick their fruit from the trees,
save for one."  After a long gurgling burp, God continued.  "Hell, man,
then what a pitiful universe it would be.  What purpose would it serve?
A bunch of totally happy people freely engaging in sex and never
getting sick, injured or  knowing good and evil.  It would be a real
drag from my point of view.
   Sure I see little kids getting napalmed or going through
windshields at 90 miles per hour.  I see starvation and natural (hey,
that's me) holocausts quite often but the test WAS NOT rigged.  It was
fair.  I did know the outcome of either reaction and it was a big

Message: 60857
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:03:36

price, I admit, but in all honesty I didn't fudge on the test. Now man
must struggle all the days of his life.  Nothing will be easy and fear
will always be upon him.  I am being prayed to constantly by people who
are in great need and some who just want to pass a test.
   My situation now is much better than when it was only me, alone in
the universe, but to tell the truth, nothing that one creates can
REALLY keep them company.  You can only watch and be patient when
having a conversation with man.
   And nothing they say will ever surprise you.  If I could create
another me, a female version with big boobs, that would be
intellectually my equal then that would be something.  Of course it
would be risky to give Her as much power as I.  If that happened then
Heaven would become as awful as your Earth.  No, I'm going to stay in
control but it sure is lonely at the top."

"What was the Jesus gig that you pulled off a while back all about,"
I inquired?

I was quickly interrupted by God.  He said, "Your prayer only allows
you one subject matter at a time, later....." and with that He was
gone in a flash, leaving me stuck with a $72. bill from Ianuzzi's
Ristorante.  

Message: 60852
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:00:23

(After doing my 'special' prayer which I learned from a Hindu Master
during the Sixties, I again invoked God to have a Chat with Me.)

I got right to the point so as to not waste God's precious time.  "My
friends and I would be interested in knowing how much you love us", I
asked?  "In your perfect book, the Bible, it clearly says that You love
man."  "Please define?"

"Before I answer, let's order some Spaghetti with Clam Sauce, I am
famished," God replies.  "You know, I created Earth quite a while ago
and then I put life on it.  I made all life in My image, sort of like
minature look-alike figures, only smaller and so very much less
intelligent than I."

Meanwhile, the waiter, a very handsome, olive skinned Italian, came
dancing over to our table to take our order.  "Hi", he said, my name is
Nick and our special tonight is 'Chef's Delight, spaghetti and Spam.
What'll you have?

We ordered the Clam while God quipped, "Spam wasn't one of My best
food creations."  "But", he added, "economic times are hard and my
little creations will, in a pinch, eat absolutely ANYTHING."  He
grinned broadly as He made this comment.

Message: 60853
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:01:02

"What about love?", I prompted, adding,  "I assumed you were in a hurry."
"Hurry-Scurry", he replied, "There ain't much to do in this Universe
anymore.  To me, time does not exist.  It is like I know everything that
will happen, save for the minor events that are caused by man's free will
but that is all entirely predictable.  After all, it was I who set the
limits.  So, to me life is rather boring.  I just sit around waiting for the
next big event that I planned to come about, ad infinitum.   And then there
are the humans who NEVER repented, although they were given a great many
opportunities to do so.  And now they are in my 'eternal torment area' to
continually pay for their transgressions. And the number is slowly creeping
up.  But, I for the most part ignore that aspect because one becomes tired
of watching it for so many eons. Besides, I already know what will happen.
The souls in Hell are stripped of all of their earthly rights, freewill
included.  It's just the nitty-gritty, torment thing.  But they had their
chance, didn't they?"

Message: 60854
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:01:40

"I suppose so" I mused, who am I to argue with God.  "I'll bet there are an
awful lot of homosexuals, pimps, druggies and murderers there, eh?  But we
are getting off the subject, I need a clarification of Your quote, 'You love
us', what about it?" "Love-smuve", He exclaimed.  Let me ask you something.
Just say for instance that you were the most powerful and most intelligent
person in the entire Universe.  That you knew how everything was going to
always be, save for a few very minor events, but nothing that would affect
you.  Well, one day you decide to create some life to share with you because
the thought of being by oneself, for all of eternity, is  worse than being
in Hell, believe that!  So, you make some firmament as a base and add some
little people.  You give them the best environmental system you can think of
and see that their bodies have all sorts of defense systems.  And you give
them ways of feeling intense pleasure and intense pain." God continues, "So,
you start out with just a male model, like I did. You watch him for a while
and see that he is without like company. Sure, you talk with him quite a bit
but you know everything in his mind because you made him.  Well, you know he
is lonely and you knew that he would be, so you take one of his ribs and
make a companion.  You then add a testicle sac and the sperm system.  You of
course watch the pair in the foilage because there isn't anything else to
watch and you

Message: 60855
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:02:19

arrange a little test in order to check your ability as a creator.   You
tell Adam, 'I have made lots of good things for you and Eve to eat  but I
have planted this one tree in the middle of your garden area and you MUST
NOT touch of the fruit.'  You then whip up a slithering serpent that can
speak and wait until Adam is fast asleep.  You send the snake to her and
have it say, 'Eve, there in the middle of the garden is a tree, unlike all
the others, and if you eat of its fruit, you will find reward.'  She
replies, 'But our creator warned us about eating the tree, I heard him tell
Adam'."  In any event the rest is History (His Story). He continues, "When
you make them, you add the free-will factor, meaning that they could make
any decision they want without you butting-in.  But when Eve ate that
forbidden fruit and became aware of both good and evil, you decide to teach
them and all of their off-spring a lesson that would span all of eternity
(remember Hell?). You strip them of a good, year round environment, and you
make them feel ashamed of their private parts hanging about and add desert
wasteland intermixed with their lush vegetation." "Well," He said, How much
would you love them?"  He then stretches his big arms out as far as they
will go and exclaims, "I love them this much", indicating that He is trying
to stretch his arms even farther apart.  "It's just that Eve failed my test.
I NEVER make mistakes,

Message: 60856
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:02:58

never have, never will.  It wasn't my fault that Eve was tricked, it was all
her fault.  Blame her, I had nothing to do with it.  I just made that
serpent very convincing but what do you expect, I am God. Sure, I could have
made it suspicious looking and unbelievable in its manner but a perfect
being cannot create imperfection, right? Certainaly the price was steep but
I gave her a fair shake.  Life isn't easy, you know, you gotta pay for it."
"But", said I, why didn't you use the same perfection when making Adam and
Eve as you did on the talking snake? "Free will", He says, free will.  Eve
could have just as easily have said, 'no thanks' to the snake.  Then to this
very day every human would live in a garden environment, naked, would enjoy
a mean tempature of 72 degrees year round and could pick their fruit from
the trees, save for one."  After a long gurgling burp, God continued.
"Hell, man, then what a pitiful universe it would be.  What purpose would it
serve? A bunch of totally happy people freely engaging in sex and never
getting sick, injured or  knowing good and evil.  It would be a real drag
from my point of view.    Sure I see little kids getting napalmed or going
through windshields at 90 miles per hour.  I see starvation and natural
(hey, that's me) holocausts quite often but the test WAS NOT rigged.  It was
fair.  I did know the outcome of either reaction and it was a big

Message: 60857
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: God
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:03:36

price, I admit, but in all honesty I didn't fudge on the test. Now man must
struggle all the days of his life.  Nothing will be easy and fear will
always be upon him.  I am being prayed to constantly by people who are in
great need and some who just want to pass a test.    My situation now is
much better than when it was only me, alone in the universe, but to tell the
truth, nothing that one creates can REALLY keep them company.  You can only
watch and be patient when having a conversation with man.    And nothing
they say will ever surprise you.  If I could create another me, a female
version who would be intellectually my equal then that would be something.
Of course it would be risky to give Her as much power as I.  If that
happened then Heaven would become as awful as your Earth. No, I'm going to
stay in control but it sure is lonely at the top." "What was the Jesus gig
that you pulled off a while back all about," I inquired? I was quickly
interrupted by God.  He said, "Your prayer only allows you one subject
matter at a time, later....." and with that He was gone in a flash, leaving
me stuck with a $72. bill from Ianuzzi's Ristorante.

Message: 60858
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:51:37

Re:  "I do have quite a
lot from CHRISTIANS OF APOLLO SIG."

I didn't know you were a member of the CHR sig.  I remember Cliff saying a
long time ago that he would only let professing Christians on the CHR SIG.

Message: 60859
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:55:18

Re:  "I try to lead a good life and I treat others like I would like them to
treat
me."

That sounds familiar.  I know I've read that someplace.  Oh yes, it's from
the Bible.  "Do to others as you would have them do to you."

I'm glad you do follow some of the Bible.  If everyone would follow just
that little bit, the world would be a much better place to live in.

Message: 60860
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 18:56:57

Re:  "I think far more people have been killed in the name of socialism"

A lot of people were killed in the name of Nazism.  Especially Hebrew
people.

Message: 60861
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 19:01:26

Re:  "CMDs like this can work very well when one hits a return key"

Thanks for the info Cliff.  I have copied the above on 5 separate lines. 
When I save it, before I save it, I will try the (F)ill command to see if I
got it ok.  Here it goes.

Hey!  It worked!

Message: 60862
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 19:09:15

Re:  "I'll be willing to bet 99% of the Klansmen are Christian."

It could very well be that 100% of the Klansmen claim to be Christians.  The
point is thought, how many really follow the teachings of Christ.  To beat
and/or murder a person because of the color of their skin is not the
teachings of Christ.  A pig can tell all who listen that he is a cat.  But
if the pig doesn't meow, if the pig doesn't chase mice or otherwise act like
a cat, but instead wallows in the mud and oinks, why should anyone believe
that the pig is a cat?

Message: 60863
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 19:11:52

Re:  "religions have done more harm
than good."

It might be true that wicked men have done many wicked things in the name of
God.  But that doesn't mean God is wicked.  It just confirms that some men
are wicked.  

Message: 60864
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 19:16:23

Re:  "In the Bible Jesus says "render unto Caeser" etc etc - if that is the
case, how come churchs don't pay income taxes and do their share for this
country?"

Hmmmmm.  Everyone in my church pays income taxes.  And you know I firmly
believe I pay a lot more than my share (I pay double social security tax). 
If no one in your daughter's obscure church pays income tax, they are not
following God's command.  But why does that make the Bible "mishmash"?

Message: 60865
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 19:20:30

Re:  "Sometimes when she was angry, she would hold her finger and thumb
apart just a little to show us how much love she had at the time."

That's interesting Rod.  I make a special point to tell my kids that my love
for them does not depend on their behavior.  I love them just as much when
they are good as I do when they are bad.  My love for my children is
unconditional.  God is the same way.  He loves me when I'm bad, and he loves
me when I'm good.

Message: 60866
Author: $ Robert Knee
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Traci Sibel
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 19:36:47

Congratulations on your marriage.  You may be interested to know that my
brother-in-law is a divorce lawyer, and a damn good one.  Not that I'm
pessimistic about your marriage, but it's something to keep in mind in case
things don't go well.

Message: 60867
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: National Socialism
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 19:41:28

So, Thornburg, you're a history buff, eh?  OK, here's a hard one:  Do you
know what "Nazism" is an abbreviation for?

Message: 60868
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Bob on Rod on CHR
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 20:06:34

        Rod is NOT a member of the CHRistian SIG...  He is either bluffing,
or he is getting the info from a member that does belong to that SIG.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60869
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Religion
Subject: Rod Dinner Posts
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 20:14:10

        Cute Rod... just make the corrections we talked about... And I will
let you live!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 60870
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/CHR SIG
Date: 09/10/89  Time: 20:33:30

Cliff answered your question about the Christian SIG.  Pick one.

And the part about Do unto others.....etc., well.....Bob if you think that
every high moral standard comes from your Bible then you are more
brainwashed than I first imagined.  Bob....Bob....wake up.
(Peace)

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