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Message: 4206
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Rod/Land
Date: 09/14/88 Time: 23:01:06
Some land may have changed hands in ways that would not be acceptable now,
but stealing it from its present owners would compound the crime,
not undo it. Should we trace back your entire family tree to the beginning
of mankind and hold you responsible for any unpunished crimes they may have
committed? The logic is about the same.
In specific cases where wrong-doing can be proven and the villain still
holds the land, the victims are able to get restitution through the courts.
The Federal government, for example, has lost a judgement to the Sioux
indians for the taking of the Black Hills. It has yet to be resolved,
because the indians are holding out for more, but the decision has already
gone in their favor.
See You Later
Dean H.
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1: The home you are currently 'buying', was built with drug money. The
2:home I am living in was purchased by pulling a big bank heist. The
3:apartment JT rents was built with bribe money. Everyone is a thief, just
4:don't get caught and everything is okay. Lands change hands through the
5:centuries, might is right, right?
6:end
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Message: 4207
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Daryl/4197
Date: 09/14/88 Time: 23:05:16
I didn't know I was IN office YET.
(snicker)
Message: 4208
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: JT/idiots
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 06:05:28
If Bush is elected - then the American people are indeed idiots -
- ditto Ducaca! When are we going to wake up and quit voting for the 'lesser
of two evils'? Are you really all that 'gung ho' over Bush? Why? =*--ANN--*=
Message: 4209
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 12:08:19
I can see your frustrations about our present land ownership
situation in your posts.
I also wonder what would happen to you, with your present train of
thought, if you were placed in the Medevil times.
From what I can see throughout history, the average person enjoys
more opportunities to own land than they did in years past. I do not see
where land ownership policies have regressed any, but I do see where this
day and age has not meet up to your idealistic, harmonious, free-spirited
concept of land vs. the average person.
Who knows, maybe you are ahead of your time. Too, far ahead to see
results in your lifetime. Be patient, Rod; you will be in the history books
1,000 years from now as the one who pioneered the 'everyone gets what they
want' concept.
Message: 4210
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ralph
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 14:57:43
The really silly part of that letter is the line "During the years from 1981
to 1988 nearly 12 million Ame
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1: Our country was designed by Parker Brothers and when I came onto the
2:scene, everything was already taken, Baltic Avenue included.
3: Do you like our current creative financing, $70-110 thou. for a
4:postage stamp size piece of desert.
5: Which banks are the easiest to hit? Which drug brings the most
6:profits? I'd better hurry on the drugs because they just may be made legal
7:in the not so distant future.
8: Capitalism in todays world is a bit unfair, the game has been going
9:on too long. Can we start a new game?
10:end
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Message: 4210
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ralph
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 14:57:43
The really silly part of that letter is the line "During the years from 1981
to 1988 nearly 12 million Americans lost jobs as a result of no-notice or
short-notice plant closings and mass layoffs." Aside from the fact that the
12 million figure ignores the fact the number of these people who got new
jobs with better pay and working conditions, I fail to see how those
lay-offs are a RESULT of the lack of notice -- as if notice would save the
jobs. The opposite is true, of course: making companies less flexible and
increasing their costs makes them less competitive in the world market, and
results in many more lost jobs.
Message: 4211
Author: $ David Burkhart
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1: My father-in-law informed me that the employment figures went way
2:down because many people were dropped from the rolls as their compensation
3:term expired. He is a world class scientist, Ph.D....I don't think he would
4:pull my leg.
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Message: 4211
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 15:03:30
You're engaging in the holier-than-thou attitude typical of the left.
You regard those who disagree with you as less compassionate and lacking in
moral character. The irony is that you then turn around and denounce
Christians for the same attitude.
I'm afraid that I prefer JT's view of opponents as misguided and
unintelligent to the preaching moralism of the left. If you truly think
that those of us who believe in a free society, unburdened by a
paternalistic government, don't care about the less fortunate and the
trapped, then you really are deluded.
Message: 4212
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Last....
Subject: David on Rod
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 18:25:24
You are right of course, emotionalism is the last refuge of a failed
ideologist.
See You Later
Dean H.
Message: 4213
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Rod/Reform
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 18:40:03
An American wrote the following on systems of government about 140 years
ago:
Is Democracy, such as we know it, the last improvemen
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1: Emotionalism is the last refuge of a failed ideologist. I agree,
2:but am I susposed to just say 'wow' when David says (yawn)? Of course the
3:(yawn) and other tacky comments from David were not emotionalism, after all,
4:David is a college student, right.
5:
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Message: 4213
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Rod/Reform
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 18:40:03
An American wrote the following on systems of government about 140 years
ago:
Is Democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in
government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing
and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and
enlightened state until the state comes to recognize the individual as a
higher and independent power, from which all its power and authority are
derived, and treats him accordingly. I please myself with imagining a state
at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual
with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with
its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it,not meddling with it, nor
embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow men. A
state which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as
it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious
state, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen.
-Henry David Thoreau in 'Civil Disobedience'
Message: 4214
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 18:54:45
Burkhart has a point. You have no business accusing him, me, Hathaway, or
anyone else of lacking compassion or being morally inferior simply because
we reject your ignorant and asinine assertions about economics, politics,
physics, and so forth.
You are 46 years old, if I recall correctly. A man your age should have
experienced enough in life to develop a little humility. You remind me of
me at age 18, except that I was a bit more coherent. Why don't you grow up
and admit that people can disagree with you without being moral failures.
Given that Burkhart and I have studied these matters far more extensively
than you, a bit of humility about your "opinions" -- which are really
nothing more than baseless, impulsive observations -- would be in order as
well.
Message: 4215
Author: $ James Taranto
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1: I didn't realize that the amount of times one takes around our
2:center star had anything to do with intelligence or the lack thereof.
3: True, I haven't pinned down economics and I am trying to understand
4:it on my own terms. I could read five books and several opinions but I am
5:looking for the root myself.
6: I am sure I will grasp it one day. As far as physics go, just
7:because my opinion differs with yours does not make me wrong. It may make
8:you wrong but you would have a hard time understanding how that could be.
9: I suggest you do some inner thinking about the cosmos sometime, it
10:will undoubtably do you a world of good.
11:end
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Message: 4215
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Oudin's idiocy
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 19:00:54
I don't care much for mushrooms, but I would far rather eat them than dog
shit. You, I suppose, would reply that I am choosing the "lesser of two
evils," and should not eat unless the perfect meal is offered to me.
Sure, I'd rather vote for Jack Kemp than George Bush, but Bush is the
Republican nominee and I expect he'll make a pretty good president.
We are, after all, choosing a man to lead our country, not a superhero to
fulfill our fantasies.
Message: 4216
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Politics
Subject: JT/last
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 09:13:08
If that is who you like, then why not vote for Jack Kemp? The last time I
looked, you could write in any name you choose.
If we are not looking for a 'Superhero', then why are we taking the
candidates apart piece by piece and putting them under a microscope? It
seems the American voters don't care what the candidates record is - they
want to know who they went to bed with other than their wives - in detail of
course! =*--ANN--*=
Message: 4217
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 18:31:07
Jack Kemp is no longer a candidate for president, so I will obviously not
vote for him.
I haven't heard much talk about Gov. Dukakis or Vice President Bush's
extramarital activities (if any). Perhaps you're getting your news from the
wrong source. I realize you enjoy the National Enquirer, but perhaps you
should pick up the Arizona Republic or the New York Times or, if those are
too difficult, USA Today.
Message: 4218
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 20:11:47
Rod: there's a good example. Note that he insulted Ann's intelligence, but
did not suggest that she was morally inferior or insincere.
Message: 4219
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Rebuttal
Subject: Ann/JT
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 21:05:03
As much as I hate to say it, Ann is probably better off reading the National
Enqierer(sp) that the Arizona Repulsive!
JT - Get somebody new to pick on before Ann gets nasty and tears your head
off!
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Message: 4220
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Dear JT
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 07:53:32
But I WAS refering to the Arizona Republic and not the National Enquirer!
=*--ANN--*=
Message: 4221
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Burkhart
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 08:41:10
You've got it backwards.
Message: 4222
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Believe it or not!
Subject: J T
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 12:17:46
Please someone out there tell me what in the world is a James Taranto???
The Old Fart Ralph
Message: 4223
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Dean/Land
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 16:31:51
The home you are currently 'buying', was built with drug money. The
home I am living in was purchased by pulling a big bank heist. The
apartment JT rents was built with bribe money. Everyone is a thief, just
don't get caught and everything is okay. Lands change hands through the
centuries, might is right, right?
Message: 4224
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Sandy
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 16:35:51
Our country was designed by Parker Brothers and when I came onto the
scene, everything was already taken, Baltic Avenue included.
Do you like our current creative financing, $70-110 thou. for a
postage stamp size piece of desert.
Which banks are the easiest to hit? Which drug brings the most
profits? I'd better hurry on the drugs because they just may be made legal
in the not so distant future.
Capitalism in todays world is a bit unfair, the game has been going
on too long. Can we start a new game?
Message: 4225
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: David
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 16:38:44
My father-in-law informed me that the unemployment figures went way
down because many people were dropped from the rolls as their compensation
term expired. He is a world class scientist, Ph.D....I don't think he would
pull my leg.
Message: 4226
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Dean/David
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 16:41:56
Emotionalism is the last refuge of a failed ideologist. I agree,
but am I susposed to just say 'wow' when David says (yawn)? Of course the
(yawn) and other tacky comments from David were not emotionalism, after all,
David is a college student, right?
Message: 4227
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Taranto/46
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 16:48:45
I didn't realize that the amount of times one takes around our
center star had anything to do with intelligence or the lack thereof.
True, I haven't pinned down economics and I am trying to understand
it on my own terms. I could read five books and several opinions but I am
looking for the root myself.
I am sure I will grasp it one day. As far as physics go, just
because my opinion differs with yours does not make me wrong. It may make
you wrong but you would have a hard time understanding how that could be.
I suggest you do some inner thinking about the cosmos sometime, it
will undoubtably do you a world of good.
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Message: 1984
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: THANG supporters
Date: 09/14/88 Time: 22:42:09
Do you suppose they are Athletic Supporters?
I'll tell all for a price.
Message: 1985
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Thang!
Subject: Daryl & Mike
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 06:17:55
Daryl: Well, I guess that leaves you out.
Mike: You have all the qualifications but the jealous wife leaves you out
too. Being a somewhat jealous type wife myself - I could/would never
understand my husband spending hours and lots of bucks making a giant penis
to give to another woman no matter who she was, what she looked like or how
old!
What am I going to do if and when I find out who did it? When I got the
first one - all I thought of was retaliation - getting back! But this one is
such a work of art, I just want to know who has so much talent and
cleverness! I could NEVER top this one and won't even try! Any effort would
pale from comparison! See you. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 1986
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Thang!
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 07:34:02
Annie I have played with photography for 50 years, I don't work, I know
where you live. So if the $20.00 reward is still in effect, I cannot tell a
lie I did it. Just so I could have a extra $20.00.
The Old Fart Ralph
Message: 1987
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Thang!
Subject: last
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 15:44:04
He's lying, save yourself $20.
Message: 1988
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Up Yours
Subject: Chris
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 00:15:08
Yea, I have to little boys .........
They were on the 'list'.
What's your excuse?
Message: 1989
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: $#!+
Subject: Ralph/confession
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 09:15:17
You'll have to do better than that! Proof!! Ten people have already
confessed. =*--Annie the Fanny--*=
Message: 1990
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Sandy/tombstones
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 09:17:31
If JT's tombstone says 'Geek' - then David's must say 'Silly'!
When was the last post he answered without using that word? =*--ANN--*=
P.S. Don't you think that's silly?
Message: 1991
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Up Yours
Subject: SANDY SYSOP
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 15:44:10
I am not quite sure I know what 'LIST' you're talking about!
What I meant was, I am not little, and as I recall I am about a foot taller
than you! hahahahaeeeeeehehehee
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Message: 1992
Author: $ Mike Howerton
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 19:33:47
I think her husband did it.
With all of the time that she spends on the board, he would have the
spare time for it.
Message: 1993
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 20:14:18
Well, when I read your messages, the word "silly" leaps into my mind, and
stays tenaciously.
It's better than some words I COULD use.
Message: 1994
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Re-BuTTal
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 20:27:39
Take the word 'Silly' .......
Beats being called Stupid.
Message: 1995
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: David/words
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 08:04:26
You'd better watch out David - I might start using some of my pet words and
believe me, they are a lot stronger than 'silly and stupid'! On my tombstone
it gonna read 'What De Fug'? (tm Daryl Westfall) "Flatulence" (tm James
Hawley) is another great word and you are certainly full of that! I also
will hire Mike Carter or Daryl to really insult you - they are EXPERTS! Ta,
ta. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 1996
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 10:28:00
Going to hire middle-men, eh?
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1: So, you admit it, you don't type the 'put down' words you are truly
2:thinking. Gee, you are really a nice guy, I over estimated you.
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Message: 1996
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 10:28:00
Going to hire middle-men, eh?
Message: 1997
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Silly/David
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 16:54:54
So, you admit it, you don't type the 'put down' words you are truly
thinking. Gee, you are really a nice guy, I over estimated you.
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Message: 54137
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann/-
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 00:58:07
Ha...did I actually say 'Brett?' Show my stupidity to the whole wide
world...that's what I get.
Tell us more, though, very interesting!
Carol-> Brett? (Oh, stupid!)
Message: 54138
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Answer!
Subject: JT
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 00:58:46
There you go, proving *my* point, again!
(How can we *both* be equally stupid?)
Message: 54139
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Answer!
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 00:59:05
Huh?
Message: 54140
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Paul
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 05:57:17
I agree that using swear words in the wrong movie at the wrong time can ruin
it! It seems they do put them in and a sex scene or two to get that 'R'
rating. But it can also be used as an advantage and help form a character.
The movies are much more realistic today than the old ones. Whether it makes
them better is a matter of personal opinion. But such movies like Platoon,
Preditor, Aliens, would be phony without those words. You look at a old war
movie and 'damn' isn't even said by someone with their leg just shot off!
Ha. As far as the stand-up comics are conserned - some go way over board
like Eddy Murphy - he's a halarious guy in most movies (swearing) - but his
comedy routines are not funny because he says that one particular word too
much. I think Robin Williams puts on a great comedy - he uses those words,
but not all that much. Whoopie Goldburg is another. Of course, you might not
agree and probably have your favorites. As far as 'That WORD' is concerned -
(and you know which one) - it's only a word! If they used 'damn' too much,
it would ruin a movie too! But I detest movies that have been edited no
matter what they are! I usually don't watch them. It ruins them.
Speaking of the 'R' rating - when I go to rent a movie, if it's PG I usually
don't get it because I like 'gore - blood - hacking - axes - chain saws -
- monsters that eat people - Jason - brains exploding - Freddy - and ghosts
that suck the life out of people! Hahahaha. No realism for me! See you
later. =*--ANN--*=
P.S. Which ones are your favorites?
Message: 54141
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT's IQ
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 06:45:20
What a waste of a fine mind!
Message: 54142
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Ann/my favorites
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 06:50:24
Personally, I enjoy a good suspense or mystery. One of those that hold you
on the edge of your seat until the credits end.
Once in a great while, I'll get into a kinky mood and watch one of the
horror flicks, although they are usually poorly made and less than real.
I am looking forward to the Lady in White though, which is playing on
Viewers Choice this week. Probably, if I had to choose the best one I have
seen recently, it would be Suspect, with Cher.THe story was excellent, the
acting likewise, and the ending was superb.
I also like a good musical, but they don't make those any more. Fiddler on
the Roof rates high on my list of all-time favorites.
Message: 54143
Author: Jeannie Innajug
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hello
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 07:52:58
Hello after a week and a half away. Don't anyone go to Seattle while the
lights are out. It's gruesome!
It's really nice here in Omaha, Temperature running in the low 80's during
the day. Sure wish I was back in Phoenix, tho! I miss all the inane and
insane chatter on Apollo.
See Y'aa......
Jeannie
Message: 54144
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: ANGEL HEART
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 09:51:13
Actually, I thought it was a bit slow and the plot silly.
In fact, I'd dare say it is Alan Parker's worst film.
Message: 54145
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 10:24:44
It was better than Bugsy Malone.
Message: 54146
Author: $ Cliff Kolostow
Category: The SYSOP Speaks
Subject: New User!
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 12:31:48
I am pleased to announce that "Jeannie Innajug" is our newest
$tatus user!
Cliffie......
Message: 54147
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Paul/Ann
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 14:38:38
If you two want a semi scary, good plot, with an awsome(sp) ending movie,
get 'Prince of Darkness'... The last 30 seconds of the movie will make you
jump out of your seat!!! Allthough you religious type may not like the over
all 'plot', which is, the bible was changed to create a 'GOD' to cover up
Satan., the movie itself (I thought) had just the right amount of suspence,
scary parts, and COMEDY!
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By the way, it is out on video tape!
Anyone else see this movieand want to comment... Of all the people I have
talked to, one person didn't like it....
Message: 54148
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 15:07:35
Well, if Rod is right about our cumulative IQ being 100, my IQ must be -42.
Message: 54149
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 15:41:25
That sounds about right
Message: 54150
Author: Spookie Wall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: NEW BBS
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 16:54:24
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Message: 54151
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Question?
Subject: Jennie I J
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 00:23:43
Ever find an occasion to be in Lincoln, Neb.?
Message: 54152
Author: Cornell Smith
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Interzone phone$$
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 01:41:57
A proposal is before the Ariz. Corporation Commission to require Mountain
West to provide interzone phone service in the Phoenix metro area at no
charge. A similar proposition in
Denver passed. If you favor this proposition, please drop a line stating so
to :Arizona Corporation Commission,
1200 W. Washington
Phoenix, Az. 85007.
The benefits of this proposal to all citizens are obvious. Thanks, Cornell
Message: 54153
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 05:19:40
You can bet your bippie that if such a proposal was ever approved in Az.,
everybody's rates would go up to cover Ma Bell's losses!
I live in the Glendale dialing area, and it costs me almost $40 a month
base bill for a Zone A number. If they approve the abolishment of interzone
calls, it won't be long before everybody is paying $40 a month. That's base,
no frills or "conveniences".
Message: 54154
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sandy
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 05:21:08
The only "occasion" to be in Lincoln, Nb. would be a plane crash there or
some other mistake.
Nobody ever goes there on purpose, do they?
Message: 54155
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Lincoln
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 07:35:29
Sorry about that last. Another reason to go to Lincoln is when your company
sends you! We have a customer in Lincoln, one in Omaha, and one in Council
Bluffs, Iowa. I "get" to go to that area a couple of times a year.
Omaha wasn't too bad this time around. September in the mid-west is real
nice. THe leaf color change won't be as spectacular this year since they
had the bad wind storm last summer. On the Iowa side of the river all the
big trees are broken, and lots of brown branches where they were broken off.
Oh well, it's not as bad as Yellowstone.
Speaking of all this destruction, fire, and pestilance, what ever happened
to the rapture? I was flying last Tuesday and was a bit concerned that my
pilot might turn out to be one of the "elect."
Another subject. Can any of you status people tell me what this dollar sign
in front of my name is going to do for me? I finally bit the bullet and
signed on.
'Nuff for now, this is on my nickel! See Y'aa.........
Jeannie
Message: 54156
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/mysteries
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 08:59:28
Nothing beats the old Alfred Hitchcock mysteries - my opinion, Vertigo being
the best! OF course, theres Phycho - no movie scared me as much when it
first came out!
If you want to be scared out of your wits without blood & gore - rent Ghost
Story starring Douglas Fairbanks Jr., John Houseman, Fred Astair and Melvin
Douglas. Also, there's an old movie called the Uninvited - starring Ray
Malland and Ruth Hussy. I doubt it can be rented however - but if your
interested, I have it anytime you want to see it!! Plus - any John Wayne
Movie - I now have 103! I have an assortment of monster/horror too. See you
later. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54157
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Chris/Prince of ...
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 09:01:05
I too want to see that movie but both the video stores I belong to say it
will not come out until next month! Is it available in your area already?
=*--ANN--*=
Message: 54158
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jeannie Innajug
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 09:02:49
Welcome to the status of Apollo. Tell us about yourself. Are you living in
Nebraska now? What kind of computer do you have? See you later. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54159
Author: $ Cliff Kolostow
Category: News Today
Subject: Hawley Wrecks Van
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 10:40:37
Dateline 09/16/1988 @ 5:30 this AM...
James Hawley (LockSmith) crashes Van at intersection, destroying
Van and a Pickup truck that ran a "Red Light". Good New is no one was hurt
badly.... The Bad News is the Indian that ran the "Red Light" had no
Insurance? Yes there was a witness..... Good Luck Mr Hawley.
Why I ask, do so many Indians NOT HAVE INSURANCE? If you ask me,
Insurance is a scam....
Cliff the once "Mighty" SYSOP
Message: 54160
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 10:59:12
My father is from India, and he has insurance.
(You mean "Native American" or "American Aboriginal", don't you?)
Message: 54162
Author: $ Cliff Kolostow
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Michael James...
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 13:01:18
I ment American Indians that live on Reservations and I
APOLLO-gize if you took it in any other way.
Cliff the "Mighty" Blunder Mouth!
Message: 54163
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Prince of...
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 15:52:44
Yes, it has been here for quite awhile, atleast 2 months!
I live at Bell and the freeway, and my video store, Pro Video Systems at
35th ave and Bell as had it for quite awhile...
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Message: 54164
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Head
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 18:28:38
Shut up, you dumb Mexican.
Message: 54165
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 20:18:20
Have you seen Body Double? It's Brian DePalma's tribute to Vertigo. Worth
seeing, though not his masterpiece.
Message: 54166
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hawley
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 20:19:03
I guess that would explain why Cliff (the car dealer, not the Sysop) wasn't
able to get a hold of you.
Message: 54167
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Lincoln
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 20:30:30
Yea, guess no one goes to Lincoln on purpose.
I threw a dart at a map. That is how I wound up there for a spell.
Message: 54168
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Question?
Subject: SYSOP or Cliff
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 21:07:57
Is it soppose to mean something to use loyal users if you a the APOLLO SYSOP
or Cliff KOLOSTOW???
just wondering
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Message: 54169
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: In search of
Subject: Data...
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 22:44:04
I am currently in the process of developing research for a
thesis. The topic of this research is "Computer Security in
the Manufacturing Environment".
I am seeking your assistance in obtaining information
relevant to this topic, as there currently exists no
published data. Specifically, I would like to reach people
in industry who have involvement in Computer Integrated
Manufacturing (CIM), and related fields, and would be
willing to provide me some information on their experiences
with computer security in that environment.
Helpful information would include policies and procedures
(current or past), actual experiences, etc., regarding
Computer Security (in its broadest interpretation),
implemented specifically in the Computer Integrated
Manufacturing (CIM) and related environments. Suggestions
gladly considered.
(continued...)
Message: 54170
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: In search of
Subject: Data...(continued)
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 22:47:12
(...continued)
The data obtained will be compiled and published in Spring
1989, as my master's thesis.
I can be contacted as follows:
work: home:
Michael Kielsky 1902 E. St. Catherine
Sr. Software Engineer Phoenix, AZ 85040
TAG Software (602) 276-4663
5420-100 W. Camelback
Glendale, AZ 85301
(602) 939-3580 or 242-9401
(602) 939-9671 (Fax)
or via electronic mail:
BITNET address: AGMGK@ASUACVAX
If you know of anyone else who might be able to help me out,
please feel free to pass along a copy of this letter.
Your help will be appreciated. - Michael Kielsky
Message: 54171
Author: Frank Terre
Category: Question?
Subject: $tatus
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 23:25:38
Is it worth the $10 for status on this system?
Frank
Message: 54172
Author: Shane Brown
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: girl
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 00:25:53
I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS GIRL, THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO AND MEET HER
Message: 54173
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Question?
Subject: last
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 01:08:35
O.k. So get to the point!
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Message: 54174
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Commercial
Subject: Service
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 02:00:44
No, you guys have not gotten rid of me yet. I still service
Computers such as Drive Alignments, Computer repair, Printer service and
repair. This can include Commodore 64, TRS-80 and IBM PC type computers.
I still rep the SANYO line of fine PC Compatibles, Houston Plotters
and other Hi-Quality Computer equipment.
Leave mail here or give me a call at 843-3346 ... If you get my
answer machine, just leave a message and I will get back to you.
I may be out of my store, but the Land Lord is no longer a partner
and my overhead is reduced.
I will mention that I have a neat Machine Shop... A BridgePort Mill
with digital readout and long table. A 17 inch swing Lathe, and other
support equipment.
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54175
Author: $ Cliff Kolostow
Category: For sale
Subject: last few items
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 02:05:54
Shop type enclosed storage shelves (pressed wood) $15.00
One Sales Counter (cost about $1000.00 new)... $100.00
Two phone system that will handle 5 lines.... $100.00 (ITT)
Office Desk with steel draws..... ((SOLD))
Computer desk on casters..... $35.00
Student desk (fixer-uper)..... $20.00
Alarm system, with two motion sensors..... $50.00
Whoops, almost forgot... One almost new Micro Wave Oven $75.00
And NO TAXes on this stuff gang!
P.S. The Phone system was a little over $700.00 new...
Cliff, Happy and UN-Employed!
Message: 54176
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Question?
Subject: Kielsky
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 03:42:59
When can we have another GT at your place?
Message: 54177
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 04:23:06
Don't you know any geography?
Message: 54178
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Lady in White
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 04:40:06
Got to watch this excellent ghost story yesterday.
Not the modern day blood, guts and gore horror flick. Just a very well
acted, well written ghost story. The kind that is full of surprises and
keeps you on the edge of your seat.I would highly recommend it to anyone who
doesn't have a bad heart.
I certainly agree with your opinion of Hitchcock, Ann. He is still the
master of the macabre.
Message: 54179
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 04:48:17
How come, every time you adveretise the microwave, the price goes up? You
started oout at $50, then it went to $60, and now it's $75. This seems to
contradict some of the laws of buying and selling, supply and demand, horse
trading and a few others.
I'll give you $30 for it. Offer valid for the next 48 hours only.
Message: 54180
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/movie
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 07:43:00
Is that movie 'Lady in White' at the video stores? My favorite above
favorites is a good ghost story and the best are usually without all the
blood and guts! I like to be frightened and a ghost will do it everytime!
Unfortunately, I've seen and read so much, that I'm almost immune - the last
movie to scare me was Phycho and the last book I read that did was 'The
Shining' by the master of the macabre Steven King. So you can see - it's
been along time. =*--ANN--*=
P.S. Don't forget that movie 'The Uninvited'!
Message: 54181
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Circle K
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 07:50:21
Too bad Circle K dropped it's drug policy to limit medical care coverage for
employees suffering from AIDS, alcohol or drug abuse! I thought they had a
right to do that, but the media put too much pressure to them. Especially
the alcohol & drugs. These things - even if they are not actually used on
the job, can create problems while the person is on the job. It's ironic
that AIDS is the only thing that may NOT be the employee's fault!
=*--ANN--*=
Message: 54182
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 08:39:57
I'll give you $8.50 for the microwave.
Message: 54183
Author: $ Cliff Kolostow
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul/Microwave
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 11:38:18
We have found a use for it... We are not exactly in a hurry to get
rid of it now. And when we were selling it for $50.00, that was to get
people into the store.... and let them carry it out... Since then we have
priced them in stores such as "Price Savers" and you can't get that model
that cheap. It was a super deal at $50.00 (40.00 was an insult for a unit
you would not even look at) and $75.00 is a good deal still.
The DEMAND went up when we found a use for it...
I'd rather MicroWave two bags of popcorn at the SAME time then sell
it for $50.00!
DEMOCRATS!!!! Arrrrrrgh! Want every thing for next to
nothing!
Cliff ((-:} Smile!
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Message: 244
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: James H./Thang
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 06:34:41
But I only have two! Is 'PenisInc' gonna send me more perhaps? Heh heh heh!
Fess up lad! You are my prime suspect! Step forward and claim your
'greatness'! THANG is on par with with the sculptures of Rodin and
Micheanglo! Don't be shy!
By the way - who did you use for the model? Or did you use yourself -
forming it on yourself while still soft (the Cel-U-Clay that is!) and then
braking it away when it hardened? Tell us the details!
When Sandy saw it for the first time - after me prying her off of it, she
said it certainly resembled you - but will admit she also said it resemble
Zak also, plus Cliff and Daryl. She ought to know! =*--Annie the ASSp--*=
Message: 245
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Mighty Sysop
Date: 09/15/88 Time: 06:37:48
Now that you do not work - where are you? Arn't you gonna post anymore? It
seems like you havn't in a week! Are you going to let some of these
outragious statements go un-challenged? Not like you! =*--Annie the ASSp--*=
Message: 246
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Mighty SYSOPs
Subject: Ann/loan
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 00:31:47
I suppose one would be able to get a 'Tawdry Tale' out of you
lending me Thang; however I was hoping for another subject matter.
Message: 247
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Sandy/story theme
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 09:24:28
OK, why don't you choose from the below categories for a story theme ...
1. THANG! (the material is un-limited here!)
2. Blood & Gore! (My favorite - lots of heads being ripped off - hearts
being pulled out (through the nose!) - people being beaten with their own
legs after they were horribly hacked off!)
3. Fantasy ( this category could be improved with - heads being ripped off -
hearts being pulled out (through the nose!) - people being beaten with their
own legs after they were horribly hacked off --- by the Prince & Princess or
by the Apollo Sysops!
4. Sex!!
Put your 'X' after the one you like! =*--Annie the ASSp--*=
Message: 248
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Choice
Date: 09/16/88 Time: 20:36:58
I pick number 2.
Message: 250
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Sandy/choice
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 09:55:54
GOOD choice! =*--Annie the ASSp--*=
Message: 251
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: The Story
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 09:57:27
The sign over the entrance read 'Slumberland Cemetery' in faded gothic
lettering. Two wrought iron angels graced the huge iron gates, looking
more like demons than angels. One gate was swinging in the wind, making
an ear jarring squeak and looked to be ready to fall off it's hinges at
any time. Many people did not know that this was Phoenix's oldest
cemetery. Some of the first settlers were buried there and also some of
the Indians. But most of the tombstones were rotted away and all of the
Indians were buried in unmarked graves. At the turn of the century and
later years, no decent white folks would be buried with an dirty
Indian, but there had been no place to bury them, so they did it in the
dark of night and no one knew except for the caretaker and grave
digger. Sometimes when a new grave was dug, they'd find the rotting
bones of some long dead Indian and just bury the new body right along
with them and no one was the wiser.
People also didn't know that the cemetery was still in use. The last
body was buried there in 1987.
On this dank and clammy September night, the ancient caretaker was
making his rounds. Lately, kids were coming in and upsetting the
tombstones or writing graffiti and he hoped to catch them in the act.
He wanted to scare the hell out of them. Actually, he need not bother
to do anything because one look at him would scare the hell out of most
folks! His face was lined deeply and he looked to be - Cont.
Message: 252
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Cont.
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 09:58:47
Cont. --- from one of the graves himself. His hands were like clubs and
the fingernails had fetid dirt permanently embedded underneath them.
His back was bent over caused from so many years of digging graves. He
now walked with a slow shuffle. No one knew where he came from or how
long he'd been the caretaker and grave digger. They would be surprised
to know that at one time he was a famous Phoenix locksmith with the
best of reputations. In those days, he walked straight as an arrow with
a youthful twinkle in his eye and humor was his mainstay. James Hawley
was his given name, but he had acquired the name 'Digger' so long ago
that even he forgot what his real name was. He didn't care. The
Cemetery was his whole life and he wasn't going to let some damn drug
using kids mar 'His Cemetery' and he'd get them for sure!
His lantern cast eerie shadows on the tombstones as he shuffled by each
one. His feet were kicking up the long dead leaves. Soon, he had
reached the newer section of the Cemetery and stopped dead in his
tracks. Something was wrong - dead wrong! That smell! It meant only one
thing to Digger! Those rotten kids had dug up a grave! He made haste
down the long aisles of the dead, all the time, the odor getting
stronger. He reached the last one and held his lantern high.
"Damn. I was right!" He thought to himself. "That grave has been
tampered with!" Cont.
Message: 253
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Cont.
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 10:00:19
Cont.
Digger bent close and peered at the Epitaph which read
____________
/ \
: R.I.P :
: :
: DAVID :
: BURKHART :
: died :
: 1987 :
: :
:"This is a :
:silly thing :
: to have :
:happened to :
: me!" :
______________:____________:________________
"Why, this is the newest cadaver to be buried here!" Digger mutter
under his foul breath. He moved his lantern over the worm infested
earth and his blood seemed to stop in his veins and turn to ice!
"It can't be!" he cried aloud. "This grave looks like someone dug their
way out of it instead of someone digging into it!"
Message: 255
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Cont.
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 10:09:02
Cont.
He could see footprints coming out of the grave. Maggots squirming in
each indented outline in the damp ground!
He followed them to the wrought iron entrance gate and they disappeared
on the asphalt beyond! He suddenly remembered that he used to know the
cadaver long ago and once called him friend. He also remembered with a
chilling feeling that the cadaver had a score to settle with someone
but the name eluded him.
Digger was more frightened than he ever had been and he started back
towards the caretaker's shack. When he got inside, he bolted the door
and sat back in his chair with a plop - his heart racing in his sunken
chest. He was wiping the sweat from his brow when it came to him like
someone hit him over the head with a hammer! "I know who he had a score
to settle with! My God - its ...........?
Message: 256
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: last
Date: 09/17/88 Time: 12:27:21
Very good Annie You should write a book. Perhaps David King would be willing
to help you.
The Old Fart Ralph
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