Apollo BBS Archive - October 1988

Apollo BBS Archive - October 8, 1988


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Message: 4421
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Jeannie
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 20:47:44

I don't live inland.
I can breath much easier here than in Phoenix.

Message: 4422
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rodd Williams
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 23:35:40

About the same time you did.

Message: 4423
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Question?
Subject: The Current ote
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 02:40:43

Shouldn't there be an miga choice?  Since Commodore doesn't own Amiga,
they only own 49%, which is the marketing and customer support (hahahahaha),
part of the company...  You say who owns Amiga, Amiga does of course....  If
you look closely at an Amiga you'll note that it only says Commodore on the
FCC registration I.D. tag....
 
Just wondering...
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Message: 4424
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: smog
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 03:07:30

Pollutants of all types have increased in Phoenix over the past several
years, primarily due to increased traffic and insufficient freeways. In the
summer this is far less of a problem than in winter, since we experience a
temperature inversion during the coldest months. During those months, the
smog in Phoenix is frequently worse than that in Los Angeles.

Message: 4425
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: smog in L.A.
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 04:40:25

I was over there a couple of months ago, and you could see forever.
It's a rare day in north Phoenix when you can even see South Mountain, or in
west Phoenix when you can see the White Tanks.
Both of these were plainly visible anytime 10 years ago.
(Cough, sputter, hack)

Message: 4426
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rodd on Tod(d)
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 04:41:40

He picked up the extra D when he dropped the a.
Oops. Sorry, but I just couldn't resist.

Message: 4427
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Toad Reese
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 08:53:07

What about Jeannie's jugs and box? Did I miss something? 
                   =*--ANN OHDIN--*=

Message: 4428
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Burkhart/breath easy
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 13:25:45

        Yea, that's because all of your creditors are in Phoenix.

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 1:        Shouldn't she be in a bottle?  What happens when you rub the jug?
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 1:        I received, this day, a Summons for Raedonna Ackerman to appear in 
 2:Superior Court, Jury Room.  Failure to appear may subject her to penalty.
 3:        Woooopppeeee!
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Message: 1040
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ode To Blue Cheese
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 01:08:04

 
Nasty, putrid
Growing fuzz
Take a whiff
And get a buzz
Month-old blu cheez
On my plate
Getting older
Looking great!
Shall I eat it?
Should I wait?
Shall my cheez
Decay on plate?
I am such a
Righteous dood
I've got rotten
Blu cheez food.

Message: 1041
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Poetry
Subject: last
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 05:53:12

Yummmmm, Goooood.

Message: 1042
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Review/Critique
Subject: Daryl/ode
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 08:56:32

That was a cute ode - however, can you not think of a better subject than
blue cheese for the theme? How about bananas? =*--ANN--*=
P.S. How about a poetry/ode/prose Kontest? All the members would judge who's
is the best.

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Subject:Darly

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 1:        Can one really get a buzz from Bleu Cheese?  Bananas, I know about.
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Message: 2103
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 23:39:55

I don't doubt that there are people suffering.  However, I truly believe
that everyone in this country has a good chance (note I said "good," which
is not necessarily "equal") of bettering their lives, excepting the mentally
ill.  (Although, many of them know they have a problem and know they can get
help, but refuse to admit having a problem).

Message: 2104
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Society...
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 02:36:08

Who knows, most of the poor people are to lazy to work...  There are so many
jobs out there it isn't even funny!
 
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P.S.  Fuck you all, and have a great morning! (tm)

Message: 2105
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: society
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 03:11:40

Now I'm sure that society has gone to hell. Earlier this evening, I decided
to visit Rod, and for the first time since I've known him, the front door
was locked. I had to leave because I didn't want to knock and wake anyone.
How depresssing.

Message: 2106
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Todd
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 13:31:39

        I are mentally ill.

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 1:        The front door of the computer room?  Don't you have a key?  I'm 
 2:sure I gave you one.
 3:Oh well, and I had some good LSD I wanted to share.
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Message: 54515
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 20:45:54

Good idea -- from now on, when we disagree with Paul, we can make fun of his
former alcohol problem.  Anytime we disagree with Dean, we can mention the
Wesson Oil.  And anytime we disagree with you, we can metion your failed
business.
Good trend.

Message: 54516
Author: $ Dean McCarron
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oil. . .
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 21:58:36

Can we let that drop already?  It's been four years!
 
(Personally, next time, I'll insist on Redi-whip.)
 
Dean

Message: 54517
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff - #54506
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 22:40:55

If the ules still apply, doesn't your comment concerning an unpleasant
part of Paul's past violate rule 4?

Message: 54518
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 22:42:40

Not that I'm jumping anyone's case, or anything like that. Just asking a
question. To insist that the ules still apply, wouldn't it be good
practice to follow them? Just my opinion.

Message: 54519
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 23:41:50

Mind your own damn business.

Message: 54520
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: David
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 00:29:51

        I still am in business... I doubt Paul will last 8 years....  Never
if he had to pay a landlord a grand a month....
        Hawley, Rude you say... he is the one who said he would pray for my
drinking problem... He has me condemed... that is what I call rude and
looking down his long nose ....  Only Paul is able to judge people on one
event. ( I thought Christians did not judge people...oh well... )
        David...want to buy a computer SYSTEM....???  Try me, and you will
see if I am in business or not!  In fact, next Thursday I have to go to
Sanyo School for their new products....  And a seminar on Houston Plotters.
        J.T.  Well shut up already!  Who asked you!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

P.S. Westfall....  You are correct, but we are having a friendly fight
here...so bug off!

Message: 54521
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 01:05:52

Fine. I will.
 
Friendly fight. Those two words go together like military intelligence.
Whoops, sorry. I forgot. I'm supposed to be bugging off.

Message: 54522
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last?
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 02:22:46

        You know we are just kidding...don't you?

Message: 54523
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last few...
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 02:33:19

NO! We thought this was the beggining of world war three!

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Message: 54524
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dean
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 03:00:07

If I didn't know better, I'd swear this was the Apollo of 4 years ago.

Message: 54525
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Clifford
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 04:30:06

In the first place, in case you weren't aware of it, there is quite a
difference between the application of the word ass, which usually refers (in
conversation) to an animal considered rather stubborn and not altogether
bright), and asshole, a crude, vulgar term describing the anal orifice,
usually considered a rather basic insult).
 Secondly, I am not the one who referred to himself, as you did in the COS
SIG as "drunk as a skunk" or something like that. To compare your occasional
bender now with a problem I was able to overcome by the grace of God some 16
years ago is akin to graverobbing.
 My rather close affiliation with alcohol all those years ago has given me
enough insight into the problem to let me help quite a few others deal with
their bout with the same problem.
 And yes, I would pay you for every time you can show me the word asshole in
the Phoenix Gazette or Arizona Republic. It is still disgusting, even when I
have to type it to explain your ignorance, and has no place on a family
section of this BBS. At least that's my vote. I know my grandaughters hear
much worse on Apollo's campus, but they don't have to have my blessings on n
it by reading it here, thank you.

Message: 54526
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/trespass
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 04:34:11

I only vaguely remember the incident, but I believe that the demonstrators
were blockng the entrance to the Federal bldg., and hindering people from
going in, which is a violation of the law, and not a peaceful assembly,
which is covered by the constitution.
 As to the bldg. being our property, that may be true, but so is the
Pentagon, and you could get shot if you're found in certain areas there.
 (And don't sweat the "war" with Cliff. I still love him, even if he is a
foul mouthed drunk with a problem he doesn't want to admit.)
(smile)

Message: 54527
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: All
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 06:08:52

I am so glad that everyone loves one another.
                              Ralph

Message: 54528
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Westfall
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 08:06:48

Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me!

Message: 54529
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Fine!
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 08:48:25

All of you really came through and cheered up the sysop! He ought to really
feel good now!! Paul -- do you realize you are in essense calling Cliffy a
'foul mouth, blubbering drunk'! Why, when you know that's not true? I would
venture to say 99% of the people on this board take a drink now and then and
are not drunks. Just because you don't doesn't mean we have a problem! You
had the problem! Drinking is NOT a sin! Ease off a little.

Re: the demonstration - I didn't know they were blocking the entrance, but
even if they were - how come the trasspassing charge? See you. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54530
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: This argument
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 08:49:30

.... has all the aspicts of being as vicious as the abortion issue got!

Message: 54531
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Russia
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 09:12:32

What the heck is happening in Russia of late? Some MAJOR changes are taking
place and for the better. I think it is the first small step towards
capitalism. What ever is happening, is encouraging anyway. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54532
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Joke
Subject: Daffynitions
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 12:12:43

Asshole: "Post" Orifice.  (Hence all the hard feelings.)

Sorry.  Couldn't resist.

Message: 54533
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: U.S. Propaganda
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 12:23:01

... Since the voice of the people is allowed to speak out,
those in power better control what that voice says - in other
words, control what people think.
  One of the ways to do this is to create political debate
that appears to embrace many opinions, but actually stays
within very narrow margins.  You have to make sure that both
sides in the debate accept certain assumptions - and that
those assumptions are the basis of the propaganda system.  As
long as everyone accepts the propaganda system, then debate 
is permissible.
  The Vietnam War is a classic example of America's 
propaganda system.  In the mainstream media - the *New York
Times*, CBS, and so on - there was a lively debate about the
war.  It was between people called "doves" and people called
"hawks."  The hawks said, "If we keep at it we can win."  The
doves said, "Even if we keep at it we probably can't win,
and besides, it would probably be too costly for us, and
besides, maybe we're killing too many people."
  Both sides agreed on one thing.  We had a right to carry
out aggression against South Vietnam.  Doves and hawks alike
refused to admit that aggression was taking place.  They both
called our military presence in Southeast Asia the defense of
South Vietnam, substituting "defense" for "aggression" in the
standard Orwellian manner.  In reality, we were attacking
South Vietnam just as surely as the Soviets later attacked
Afghanistan.
  Consider the following facts.  In 1962 the U.S. Air Force
began direct attacks against the rural population of South
Vietnam with heavy bombing and defoliation.  It was part of a
program intended to drive millions of people into detention
camps where, surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards,
they would be "protected" from the guerrillas they were
supporting - the "Viet Cong," the southern branch of the
former anti-French resistance (the Vietminh).  This is what
our government calls aggression or invasion when conducted
by some official enemy.  The Saigon government had no
legitimacy and little popular support, and its leadership
was regularly overthrown in U.S.-backed coups when it was
feared that they might arrange a settlement with the Viet
Cong.  Some 70,000 "Viet Cong" had already been killed in a
U.S.-directed terror campaign before the outright U.S. 
invasion took place in 1962.
  Like the Soviets in Afghanistan, we tried to establish a
government in Saigon to invite us in.  We had to overthrow
regime after regime in that effort.  Finally we simply 
invaded outright.  That is plain, simple aggression.  But
anyone in the U.S. who thought that our policies in Vietnam
were wrong in principle was not admitted to the discussion
about the war.  The debate was essentially over tactics.
  Even at the peak of opposition to the U.S. war, only a
miniscule portion of the intellectuals opposed the war out
of principle - on the grounds that aggression is wrong.
Most intellectuals came to oppose it - well after leading
business circles did - on the "pragmatic" grounds that the
costs were too high.
  Strikingly omitted from the debate was the view that the
U.S. could have won, but that it would have been wrong to
allow such military aggression to succeed.  This was the
position of the authentic peace movement but it was seldom 
heard in the mainstream media.
  If you pick up a book on American history and look at the
Vietnam War, there is no such event as the American attack on
South Vietnam.  For the past 22 years, I have searched in
vain for even a single reference in mainstream journalism or
scholarship to an "American invasion of South Vietnam" or
American "aggression" in South Vietnam.  In the American
doctrinal system, there is no such event.  It's out of 
history, down Orwell's memory hole.

Message: 54536
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rule 4/JT
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 13:34:55

        Yeah, doesn't JT voilate rule 1-10 about every time he logs in?

Message: 54537
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 13:38:46

        Will you please pray for me?

By the way, I went to a rummage sale at St. Anus this morning with my wife. 
The only thing I could find was a bottle of holy water (really it says right
on the bottle, HOLY WATER).  It was about a quarter full.  I bought it for
50 cents (what a deal).  Anyone out there needing any, please contact me.
Cheap!  Cheap!  Cheap!  (I even blessed it in the name of the BOB)
                                Rod

Message: 54538
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Me
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 13:42:41

        When I was a kid in Ohio, we had a Donkey, but this bitch dog chased
our ass in a hole.  
        (cont.)


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Message: 361
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Christian Rod!
Subject: Story
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 05:47:48

Do you have the story in it's whole? if so I would like a copy of it.
Thanks in advance.
                       The Old Fart Ralph
  PS Best story around.

Message: 362
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: The sysops
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 09:05:16

Thanks for the applause and encouragement. That is is reason the two of you
didn't die in the story - your always nice! I also give Sandy a hand in her
contribution to the story - it was excellent. Ralph has suggested that we
get together and write a real mystery story. Perhaps someday when you have
the time eh? However, I don't know how good my contribution would be if
there is no blood, gore, axes and smells involved, but who knows! =*--Annie
the ASSp--*=

Message: 363
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Digger
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 09:06:34

Thang, was of course, buried with me so that I can enjoy him through out
eternity! I should have mentioned that on the tombstone. =*--Annie the
ASSp--*=

Message: 364
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Ralphy
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 09:09:46

Thanks for the comment re: the story. Sorry you have to spend an eternity
with JT - but that's what you get for calling me 'No spring chicken' however
true that may be! Cluck, cluck, cluck! =*--ANNIE THE CHICKEN--*=

Message: 365
Author: $ Traci Sibel
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: story
Date: 10/08/88  Time: 11:59:35

Clap Clap Clap Clap!!!
 sad endings always make me cry!!  

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Subject:Story

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Subject:Old Fart

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 1:        Yes, I have the complete story in my buffer and if you want a copy 
 2:please come over.  DOes anyone know the date it started.  Everything in my 
 3:buffer is by date.  
 4:        In fact, (except for a screw up or two) I have the last two years of
 5:Apollo on disk.
 6:        Everything is by date though.
 7:                                Rod
 8:P.S.  When I first started computing I had a C-64 and my terminal program 
 9:had a 7K buffer(about 10 messages) but now I have a 600+ K buffer.  My 
10:Commie disks held about 175K and now I have 720K disks.  Thank BOB for 
11:progress.
12:                                Rod
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13:P.S.  Take care you old fart, we love you.
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