Apollo BBS Archive - October 7, 1988



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Message: 4409
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 00:03:26

The pollution in Phoenix is much worse than where I live in San Diego.

Message: 4410
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last...
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 00:17:15

Yeah, it all blows over HERE!
 
Heheheheeee
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Message: 4411
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod/Enquirer
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 05:24:38

No Rod, I don't think they stretch the truth.
I don't think they can stretch something they're not even remotely
acquainted with!

Message: 4412
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Sandy/wt. line
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 06:28:05

If that happened during an earthquake - they'd run like hell of course.
=*--ANN--*=

Message: 4413
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Dear David
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 06:36:54

You were joking about S. Diego being less polluted than Phoenix right? With
all the people they have there, it has to be more polluted! They dump raw
sewage in the ocean at times. Their skidrow is certainly larger and dirtier
than Phoenix's. And a lot of the crazies come from L.A. all the time. You
don't have much smog - only because the ocean breeze blows it someplace else
is all.
I have heard and read at times that Phoenix is more polluted than L.A. is
and that simply is not the truth. Even at our worse smog filled days - it
doesn't come close to one of L.A.'s good days! The last time I was there 
was in 1982 and it hadn't changed for the betten then and I doubt it is now.
What is the population of San Diego now. I'll bet there are three times as
many people in that area as Maricopa county all together. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 4414
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Chris Neal
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 07:33:37

Happy Birthday...........Chrissy.......

Remember that a gentleman *always* rests his weight on his elbows.

See Y'aa...........

Jeannie

Message: 4415
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: California
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 07:40:48

Hey......everyone.....

I live in San Diego (when I have to) and it's more polluted than Phoenix.  I
think we have a smaller population, but the air currents off the ocean drice
the smog inland.  Also we get all the smoke from cooking fires in Tiajuana.

If you want to see some smog, go to Mexico City.  My mom's family lives
there, and the las time we were down there you couldn't see across the
street.

See Y'aa............

Jeannie

Message: 4416
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: Jeannie
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 10:58:37

What, exactly, do you do in your jug, anyway?

Message: 4417
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Last....
Subject: Tod
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 16:53:23

        You've gone and done it now!
Opened up Pandora's (or should I say Jennie's) Box with that question.

Message: 4418
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: That's To(dd)
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 19:14:42

 
....  with TWO d's.

Message: 4419
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Jeannie Innajug
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 20:01:35

Forgive me for asking, but what exactly does your advice mean?
 
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BTW, is that your real name or is it supposed to be funny?
Just Curious.

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Message: 2092
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: J.T.
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 00:19:13

Speak for yourself, A$$HOLE!
 
Your friend,
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Message: 2093
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod's last two
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 00:24:17

O.k. then, THAT settles it!!!!  Lets let all the wacko's out on the street,
(like J.T.) so they can rob us, rape us, kill us, murder us, threaten us,
make us feel unsafe in our own homes, take us hostage, steel our stuff, etc.
etc. etc. etc!!!!!!  Sounds like a great world to me... When can we start,
huh, huh, huh, huuuuuuuuh??????   I mean $#!+ you only live --**ONE**--
TIME!!!
 
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If you have some wonderful great idea about how you or we can solve this
'small' problem why don't you lay it on us and the world....  Yeah, Yeah, I
figured as much!!!

Message: 2094
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer !
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 05:48:20

Shoot them all,then no problem!!!
                    The Old Fart Ralph

Message: 2095
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Chris
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 06:55:40

Re: your post # 2093 --- but that is the truth now - we don't have to let
them out - they ARE out and roaming the streets! 

RE: solving our problems - my main advice is - we must get rid of the 'ME
GENERATION' attitude! It has produced nothing but negativity. Everyone wants
to be in the lime light all the time. Everyone wants to be just for
themselves and no one else. The 'ME' attitude hits us at all phases - from
family to government. On the family level - kids are being raised in an
invironment where they are on their own most of their lives because both
parents work - no one wants to stay home and raise them for fear they'll
miss out on their careers - their life! The marriage ususally doesn't last
under that kind of stress. Or they didn't get married in the first place not
wanting to give up their precious freedoms. The kids grow up being just for
themselves. (Why these people bother to have children is beyond me) On the
government level - everyone wants the lime light to further their careers.
They wouldn't give a thought to sticking together be they rep. or Dem. So, I
think if we got rid of that attitude, it would change things for the better.
I don't know about anyone else, but I get a lot of happiness doing something
for others. When I'm selfish, I'm not happy! See you later. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 2096
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: David/2073
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 11:03:13

That was close enuf to my line of thinking, but I don't think Ann got the
message of our implications...

Message: 2097
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Old Fart Ralph
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 11:07:46

Instead of shooting them all, let's send them over to Rod's house and let
him deal with it.  By sundown, he'd want them all in prison.

Message: 2098
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Chris neal
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 17:03:11

Yep, there's no substitute for careful analysis.

Message: 2099
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 19:16:13

How about, "...and You're NO Jack Kennedy!"

Message: 2100
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Chris
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 20:07:58

        Eliminate the poor class.  Spread the wealth more evenly.  Get rid
of pig capitalism (I didn't say capitalism).  How do we do that, you ask? 
Beats the fuck out of me.

Message: 2101
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Ann/kids
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 20:10:50

        Yeah, many kids are of the latch-key variety because mommy and daddy
don't want to get evicted.  The kids grow up with dis-respect for authority
because they had little supervision by the parents.  The parents are tired
after a hard days grind and can't answer Bobbies questions.
        We have a wonderful society.

Message: 2102
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Todd/Prison
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 20:15:04

        First, I would put some of the greedy pigs in prison, ya know, the
white collar and brain tourniquet (tie) boys.  They are the cause of the
unrest and substandard living conditions.  While they live in the lap of
luxury, many others truly suffer.  Many spend their entire lives in poverty
and want while the fat cats eat pork and prime meats.
        Sure, we have a society that is fair just as your name is Tod.

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Message: 54501
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 05:19:54

I have been reading the Arizona Repulsive and Phoenix Gazoo since 1962, and
have yet to see the type of language to which you stoop used on their pages.
 Since this IS your BBS, I imagine you can say snything you wish onit, but I
was under the impression that YOU created the COSmos SIG for the purpose of
spleen venting. If you are now going to open the rest of the BBS to garbage
can mouths spewing forth the contents of sewer minds, the least you can do
is warn us, or maybe the rules don't apply when you've been too long in the
jug. If that's the case, you have a worse problem, and I'll pray for you in
that area as well. It might be appropriate to quote another here, who said,
almost 2000 years ago, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth
speaketh."
I pray that your heart be filled to overflowing with the joys and the love
of God. Have a great day.

Message: 54502
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 06:03:41

What is wrong with the words A-- Hole every one has one, even you.
You know that Our MIGHTY SYSOP is not a sop.
                            Friend of all
                            Ralph

Message: 54503
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul on Cliff
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 06:17:43

Hey - time to lighten up on Cliff. I was only joking, but your not! No big
deal. You belong to the other sigs. and hear those words - so you can't be
THAT offended! Smile! You have every reason to because you don't work at the
post office anymore! Ha =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54504
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: A question
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 06:25:30

I noticed something in the paper yesterday that I don't understand and
wonder if someone can enlighten me. In March, a group protested in front of
the federal building - to protest an announcement by Reagan that 3,200 U.S.
troops were going to be sent to Honduras. They wouldn't leave and were
arrested for trasspassing. A few will spend a day in jail and fined. My
questions are: --- how can anyone be arrested for trasspassing at a public
building? Don't we, as taxpayers, own that building and have a right to
access? Also, since when was it against the law to protest? Isn't that a
Constitutional Right? I would appriciate your answers because I don't know
the law re: this. I just assumed. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54505
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul Savage
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 10:55:06

I'd be more worried about your granddaughters being indoctrinated by your
constant self-righteousness rather than Cliff's vocabulary.

Message: 54506
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul Savage
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 11:26:14

        All I said was ASSHOLE.....  Paul....  Are you crossing what I said
in the mos SIG with the  board?  If I can find the word ASS in the
Phx/Repulsive or Gazoo... will you pay me 100.00 cash?  Maybe you had better
referance the post number in the PUBlic board all this filth is in.
Again, you failed to condem ZAK for using the word "ASS" ..... (on this SIG)
        As for the rest of your garbage about praying for me...you had
better use it for yourself... At least I was never a town drunk!  I happen
to drink very little.... way less than the average person.

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

P.S.  The ules still hold here....

Message: 54507
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 16:58:54

As one who enjoys a drink now and again, I resent the implications of that
last message.

Message: 54508
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: U.S. Propaganda
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 18:41:18

More from Utne Reader ...

Propaganda in America?  You might scoff at the statement by
controversial MIT professor and foreign policy critic Noam
Chomsky that propaganda plays a major role in America's
political affairs.  Propaganda, you might reply, is far more
prevalent in a totalitarian system such as the Soviet Union.
But is that really the case?  Chomsky argues that propaganda
is more widespread in democratic nations than in 
authoritarian ones, and he cites press coverage of the
Vietnam war and Nicaragua to back up his assertion.

              Propaganda, American-style
          by Noam Chomsky - Propaganda Review

Pointing to the massive amounts of propaganda spewed by
governments and institutions around the world, observers
have called our era the age of Orwell.  But the fact is that
Orwell was a latecomer on the scene.  As early as
World War I, American historians offered themselves to
President Woodrow Wilson to carry out a task they called
"historical engineering," by which they meant designing the
facts of history so that they would serve state policy.  In
this instance, U.S. government wanted to silence opposition
to the war.  This represents a version of Orwell's 1984, even
before Orwell was writing.
  In 1921 the famous American journalist Walter Lippman said
that the art of democracy requires what he called the
"manufacture of consent."  This phrase is an Orwellian
euphemism for thought control.  The idea is that in a state
such as the U.S. where the government can't control the
people by force, it had better control what they think.
  The Soviet Union is at the opposite end of the spectrum
from us in its domestic freedoms.  It's essentially a country
run by the bludgeon.  It's very easy to determine what 
propaganda is in the USSR: what the state produces is
propaganda.
  That's the kind of thing that Orwell described in *1984*
(not a very good book in my opinion).  *1984* is so popular
because it's trivial and because it attacks our enemies.  If
Orwell had dealt with a different problem - ourselves - his
book wouldn't have been popular.  In fact, it probably
wouldn't have been published.
  In totalitarian societies where there's a Ministry of 
Truth, propaganda doesn't really try to control your 
thoughts.  It just gives you the party line.  It says, 
"Here's the official doctrine; don't disobey and you won't
get in trouble.  What you think is not of great importance to
anyone.  If you get out of line we'll do something to you
because we have force."
  Democratic societies can't work like that, because the
state is much more limited in its capacity to control
behavior by force.  Since the voice of the people is allowed
to speak out, those in power better control what that voice
says - in other words, control what people think.
(continued)

Message: 54511
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff/"Town Drunk"
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 19:46:01

That's a very rude comment.  You've gone to the JT/Burkhart school of BBS
manners.

Message: 54512
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Savage/Gazette/Rep.
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 19:58:44

If you haven't seen those words in there for the 22 years you have been
reading it, then you are leading a very sheltered life!  Wake up and see AND
HEAR the REAL WORLD!    Or better yet, goto a High School lunch half hour,
that getcha!!!!
 
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Message: 347
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 00:12:11

In the end, everybody dies.

Message: 348
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Story
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 05:54:53

Shoot Them all.
Who said that Sandy Sysop was quick witted? They made a error of 1/2.
HHEEEEEEEE, HEEEE.
                        The Old Fart Ralph

Message: 349
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Cliff/the ZONE!
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 07:01:54

Yes sir! Sysops never get drunk. I take all I said back! But if you ever
intend to get a little 'zonked' again - call me so I can join you. Ta, ta.
=*--ANN--*=
P.S. I'm off to my word processor to finish the story. You'd better lay off
the booze however - zonked people have more of a chance of getting killed
than cold sober people do! Heh hehe hehe.

Message: 350
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: story
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 09:27:15

All the Apollo menbers were so terrified, they were shaking as the
hulking figure made it's way into Cliff and Sandy's living room. It
towered in the door frame, making the Cardinal's quarterback look like
a dwarf in comparison. It was deadly silent in the room.
     Suddenly, the hulking thing spoke.
"What in the hell is the matter with you Cliff? I saw a post on Apollo
saying you were having a meeting here and you won't even let me in the
front door! Aren't your old friends welcome here anymore?"
     The creature stepped into the light and all the members gasp at
the same time -- Sandy managed to speak first.
"David Burkhart! Is that you? How can you be here - you've been dead
over a year and we thought ------!"
"Dead? Where in the hell did you get that idea? I've been away at
school in San Diego and have been too busy to post on Apollo for the
last year. As you can see - I'm alive and kicking!"
     All the members came alive at once and surrounded David. He
received many hugs, kisses and pats on the back. Then, they spent a
good part of an hour clueing him in on what's been happening!
 
He sat stunned after hearing the story. "Let me get this straight - you
thought I had died, came back from the grave and killed off all those
people? Have you all went Bananas or something?"
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Message: 351
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: story
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 09:28:30

"NO, we haven't went crazy David" said Cliff. "The clues all pointed at
you. We didn't believe it at first, but ........
 
Cliff did not realize that the busted front door was wide open - not
until they smelled something strange and awful. All heads turned
towards the door as a hulking dead thing made it way into the room and
stood in the dimness of the hall light. A deadly, horrible laugh, along
with the smell, permeated the room, making knees shake and teeth
chatter.
 
Suddenly, before anyone could blink, the dead thing made a lunge
towards David and got him by the throat and had him down on the floor,
choking him almost to death before Rod Willians, bravely putting down
his terror, grabbed the hideous creature and wrestled him, finally
getting him off David and on his back. The others stood in their
fright, helpless to do anything but watch.
 
The dead thing was struggling to get up and Rod continued to hold him
firm. He noticed that the creatures skin felt funny - loose sort of and
he started pulling at the face. Grisly dead skin started peeling off in
Rod's hand, revealing a face underneath that was familiar to all of
them! They crowded around the prone figure and couldn't believe their
eyes! Sandy almost screamed - "It's you! It can't be!"
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Message: 352
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: story
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 09:29:49

"But it is Sandy!" said Rod. "It's Ann Oudin!" He was in complete shock
at seeing his friend Ann laying on the floor after trying to kill
David.
Rod pulled her up and sat her down on the couch. "Now, you have some
explaining to do Ann"!
"Yes Ann. Tell us why you killed some of the Apollo members and spared
others" questioned Cliff.
 
Ann sat there with an evil smurk on her face and began to explain the
awful deeds she had done!
"I killed JT because he was always calling me names on the board. Him
and his ego are gone for good now. I relished his death and am not
sorry I did it!"
"I understand Ann. I've wanted to kill JT at times too" said Rod, "but
that doesn't explain why you killed Beau and Jim, poor old Ralph,
Jeannie, Nick, Toddy, Digger and most of all, my friend Joe that you
didn't even know at all!"
"Joe was an accident Rod. I thought that was Nick sitting there and I
had to go back later and kill him." Ann leered. "That damn Nick thought
he had a better car than my Corvette and deserved to die like he did! I
didn't kill Todd - he comitted suicide because he bought a Tandy EX
computer and was despondent over that -- Jeannie I murdered because I
was jealous - jealous over a new woman member, taking away my lime
light on the boards. Who does she think she is anyway"? Cont.

Message: 353
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: story
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 09:31:06

"And the rest? Go on Ann" said Rod
"I didn't kill Beau Dog and Jim. Some one else did them in. Old fart
Ralph got it because one time when he was visiting me, he told me 'I
was no spring chicken'! I could hardly wait for the day to get even
with the likes of him! And Digger? Oh how I loved it when I murdered
that detestable, filthy minded worm. He made me have many hours of
embarrassment in my life because he created and delivered big penises
to my door step. Skulking around in the dark all the time - never
confessing to his deeds. He made me the laughing stock of Apollo - me,
the pure and innocent one that never thought of a penis in her life!"
 
Ann looked up at David -- "And you David - you were going to die the
most horrible! You have called me names like 'silly' and the like so
many times I can't count. You and JT ganging up on me!"
Ann's face got very red and she made another lunge at David, but Rod
stopped her quick and shoved her back down on the couch.
"But why have you spared some of us Ann?" ask Rod.
"I spared all that have been good to me - Sandy, Cliff and the rest.
And you Rod! My hero and mentor! You've never called me a name and
respect my ideals and thoughts. You always speak the truth even though
some of them do not understand. Your a modern day savior and they can't
see it. What fools!"  Cont.

Message: 354
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: story
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 09:32:19

Sandy piped up. "But Ann. Where did you get that costume and that
smell?"
Ann chuckled nastily. "I simply renting the costume at a local store
and as far as the smell - I just didn't bathe for a couple of months!
And Yes - it was me that had David's obituary put in the paper over a
year ago, hoping to throw all of you off the scent and think it was
him. I was planning to go to San Diego soon and kill him too. When I
saw the post on Apollo, I knew he'd show up here and save me a trip.!"
She glared at David again.
 
All stood in stunned silence at hearing this grisly story and all
thinking what to do with Ann now!
 
The night was dank and cold in the old cemetery as what was left of the
members of Apollo BBS stood over a new grave they had just covered up.
Paul said a small prayer, but the others were wondering about what they
had just done. Cliff had thought to bring a tombstone and had etched it
himself. After a few minutes, they began to make their way out of the
gates and into the night. The tombstone sat among the others as the
wind whistled through the trees. A passerby would wonder why an old
tombstone had been pushed aside that said 'David Burkhart' and a new
one in it's place on the same grave. They would read ......
              Cont.

Message: 355
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: The End!
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 09:33:27

                       ____________________
                       l                   l\
                       l     R.I.P         l l
                       l       *           l l
                       l    ANN OUDIN      l l
                       l   1934 - 1988     l l
                       l                   l l
                       l Buried alive for  l l
                       l for the deeds she l l
                       l    has done.      l l
                       l May God and the   l l
                       l worms have mercy  l l
                       l   on this soul!   l l
                       l May the earth thatl l
                       l   surrounds her,  l l
                       l   retain the evil l l
                       l______therein._____l l
                      /    ' ''   '''' ''    /
                     /  '' ''' '' ''' ''''  /
                    /''''  '' ''''' '''' ''/
 
                    THE END! (or is it? heh heh heh)

Message: 356
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Mighty SYSOPs
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 10:13:24

        Clap! Clap! Clap!

Message: 357
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Mighty SYSOPs
Subject: The Story!
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 11:37:05

        Clap! Clap! Clap!  Terrific.... Bravo!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 358
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Mighty SYSOPs
Subject: Story
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 16:49:39

        Gee ...... no one has commented on the story ........

Ann, I was under the impression this was a make believe story .....
Were the members actually ZAPPED?

        Hello, out there!

        Anybody home?!

Message: 359
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Last
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 19:47:44

So if Ann is dead, who get's the thang?

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 1:        One of my clients would like to know if there is a General Ledger 
 2:program for the IBM.  He has a spreadsheet but can't find a ledger.
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