Apollo BBS Archive - October 1988

Apollo BBS Archive - October 26 - 28, 1988


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Mail from Daryl Westfall
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 23:56:09

Here's a suggestion for a ote topic.

Recently, John Denver agreed to pay a stipulated $10m fee to ride on the
Soviet Space Shuttle. He initially inquired of NASA and was turned down, as
the civilian space program is off due to the Challenger incident. He wants
to fly out into space to write a song. How do you feel about this?

[A] He's free to do what he wants
[B] He's free to do what he wants, but this is not such a good idea
[C] He, as a civilian, should not make deals with the Soviet Union
[D] He is making a mockery of his US citizenship by dealing with the USSR
[E] Ship him off to Russia for good...C-O-D!!!

Interesting, and a fresh topic I might add. Thanks! 

How do you vote [A-E] or [CR] to abort:$

Poll results to date:
[A] 2    [B] 0    [C] 0    [D] 0    [E] 2

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Message: 4571
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last...sigh
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 19:12:02

        Drugs are a COP out...  A Crutch!  (Rod needs it)
I am for a Drug Free America....  Drugs that get you high for no medical
need are a waste.  They cause DEATH when used with such things as driving?
I would not want my Bus Driver or Train Engineer on any of that CRAP!
        If you want to screw yourself up because you can't face life, then
do it in the privacy of your home.   As for "Brain Washing", Rod never has
to fear that.... does he!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 4572
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Geraldo\Satan Show
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 20:32:18

So what did you guys think about it?  It sounds true so why the **** don't
we do something about it????   Like that guy said they don't name them and
therefore they don't get arrested!  Gee, I think I see a problem here....
 
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Message: 4573
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Geraldo
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 21:44:01

I didn't watch it, but in my experience these women who claim to have
sacrificed their own children never explain why they, as self-confessed
child murderers, are not in jail.  Was there any explanation on Geraldo?

Message: 4574
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Drugs/CLiff
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 22:10:58

Drugs are less of a crutch than religion

Message: 4575
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 22:46:43

        Religion can be used as a crutch, but it is not meant to be one.
Those that use Religion as a crutch usually turn away later on not finding
what they were looking for.
        Anyway, Religion being used as a crutch by those who do so is far
better for ones health than the other substitues.

Message: 4576
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: B-Dog
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 23:00:41

        Give me a break....  Anything used to excess can be called a
"Crutch".   However not in the same way...  Smokers are always telling me
they can quit at any time... if not that, they tell me it keeps them from
getting fat or some other lame excuse!  
        Some people try to blame everything on Religion... that is a cheap
shot, and you know it.   I am not some Holy Roller... Geesh!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 4577
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Religion
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 23:37:31

I look at it this way. Knowing the Word of God is creates a fabulous NATURAL
high (an incredible sense of inner peace) and if that feeling is addictive,
GREAT! I wouldn't want to feel any other way, and no drug on this Earth,
natural or synthetic, could match the way I feel 24 hours a day!

Message: 4578
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Lippard/Geraldo
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 01:01:26

Geez, are you kidding me?  It was they same 'ol "This is the problem in full
gross detail, now what are we as a GREAT patriotic 'sensitive parents'
nation going to do about it?"
 
Geraldo is still trying to clear his name after all he got out of the Al
Capone show was a 50 year old Coke bottle!

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Message: 4579
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Geraldo
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 04:11:14

The way the women explained it, they allowed their children to be taken away
and sacrificed. None of them admitted that they actually participated in any
ritual, just they they were told it is the "highest honor" to allow one of
your children to be sacrificed.

Message: 4580
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: drugs
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 07:22:42

Heyyy....

Drugs, and anything else used as a crutch to "escape" from what life brings
are popular because there are so many emotional cripples in the world.  When
strong values were taught to children by the parents and the churches people
didn't grow up emotionally crippled.  We didn't need the schools and the
government to tell us right from wrong then.

The only thing I get "high" on is life itself.  And I sure don't need any
artificial stimulants to help escape life.

See Y'aa........

Jeannie

Message: 4581
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: Chris Neal
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 11:35:25

Why didn't you change the channel or leave the room when Geraldo warned that
parents should restrict children from watching the show?
 


Message: 4582
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Geraldo
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 12:10:29

     Geraldooon - a very dangerous cartoon, if reports are true.

Message: 4583
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Todd
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 14:18:28

You real funny! 

So when are you going to Blax - 80 back up? Or are you?

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Message: 4584
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: 4579
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 14:46:46

In that case, why aren't they in jail for being self-confessed accessories
to murder?

Message: 4585
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 18:25:52

Maybe the children hadn't been born yet when they were sacrificed.

Message: 4586
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Jim Lippard
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 19:56:17

If we're going to ask that, why not go the rest of the way and
ask why are there so many people planning to vote for a goon who has
furloughed so many convicted criminals- who went on to destroy more
lives - for OUR PRESIDENT ?????
 
Why do so many young criminals get off the hook ?
 
 
Lack of CONVINCING evidence and the current state of affairs within
our judicial system.....and the fact that juries are picked by LAWYERS.
 
                -Mike

Message: 4587
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last few..
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 21:07:24

        Just maybe there was no body....  Pretty easy to get rid of a Baby!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

P.S.  No Body, no crime! ???  Thems the rules, I didn't make them either.

Message: 4588
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last...\Bodies
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 00:19:43

Yes that is true, "No body, no crime" but in one of the cases they had found
2 complete bodies scattered in shallow graves in this dude's back yard and
he was only charged with 1 count of manslaughter.  YES, they had posatively
I.D.'ed the two bodies has this guys son and this ladies daughter, and let
tell you, them there were some P.O.'ed parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Message: 4589
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Answer!
Subject: Jim
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 04:25:57

Good question. I suspect it is because of a total lack of evidence of any
sacrifice actually occurring.

Message: 4590
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Crimes
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 19:58:19

        Someone must file a complaint to initiate criminal proceedures.
Maybe the State finds the women's confessions fictitious.
If not, then maybe the State cannot gather enough evidence to warrant
criminal proceedings.

        Wonder what the State would do if I confessed to a crime  of
violence with no evidence to back my statement?
        Remember .... "no person shall be held to answer for a capital or
otherwise infamous crime unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand
jury."
        The act confessed by these women would constitute a Felony
punishable by imprisonment in a state prison/penitentiary rendering the
crime infamous.

Message: 4591
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Geraldo
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 22:58:03

He's not a reporter, but he plays one on TV.
I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

Message: 4592
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Current Vote ?
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 02:31:20

The Russian's don't have a real 'Space Shuttle' do they?   Shouldn't it say
'Space Capsule' that goes to the Space station?

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Message: 4593
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Question?
Subject: Chris/vote
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 02:48:13

        So, why are you for John Denver being sent to Russia, C.O.D.?

Message: 4594
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Religion/Drugs
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 02:50:53

        Religion has damanged more children's minds than any plant substance
in existence.  Many people today have warped values because of what they
were spoon fed by so called ministers.  
        Hmmmmmmmm....wonder how many of them watched Bakker, Swaggart or
some of their clones?  
                                Rod

Message: 4595
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Soviet Shuttle
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 04:09:11

The Soviets do indeed have their own space shuttle. They intend to launch it
within the next few days, though it will be unmanned for its maiden voyage.

Outwardly, the Soviet shuttle is very similar to its American counterpart.
However, there are some major differences -- it is entirely dependent on
liquid fueled engines, and the orbiter has jet engines which provide a
go-around capability. The Soviets put a much greater emphasis on computer
control of their vehicles than we do, and they have attempted to entirely
automate the landing process. No doubt that's the reason for the go-around
capability.

Message: 4596
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod on Religion
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 09:42:01

        So you think we all were spoon fed this Christian stuff?   My Mom
was not a Christian...  She is an athiest!  Where do you get your brain
washing crap from?  Being a Christian helps give you a good set of morals to
follow... there is nothing wrong with that, is there?

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

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Message: 4598
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 15:08:35

        I can't say Hi...  She freaked out and ran away....

I do not have a Mom anymore....

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 4599
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Soviets
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 16:02:52

What makes anybody think the Soviets would accept a US civilian kook as
a passenger on any of their space flights?

Note to Chris:
     From the oictures in the paper it sure looks like a space shuttle.


Message: 4600
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: THANG news update
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 16:57:58

I recieved another anonomus letter today and inclosed was another beautiful
color picture of THANG sitting in front of the Phoenix Art Museum! The
letter was entitled 'Penis Facts #2' and basically told about the mechanics
of THANGS gun that was installed in the head. It was supposed to 'shoot out
milk' but something went wrong. The letter went on to say "A more viscous
liquid was going to be used, but it was feared that it would not pump
correctly"! Hmmm ... I wonder what type of liquid that was going to be??!!
Anyway - there still was no instructions on how to Preserve ole THANG which
is deteriorating I can hardly wait for 'Penis Facts #3' to be delivered.
By the way - this one was sent from New York - to throw me off the scent.
But that's easy to figure out - someone here just sent this to JT and he
mailed it from back east. =+= ANN =+=

Message: 4601
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: BEHOLD! .....
Subject: Apollo Aid Fund...
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 19:26:32

        Thanks Ann.....  You really warm my heart.... ( I really don't have
one )

        Okay guys, get me some new $tatus users....  FAST!

Next due date.... NOV 09   $54.11 to go...... (5 and 1/2 $tatus users
needed)

jt?

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 4602
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 20:05:28

The check is in the envelope, and will be in the mail as soon as I remember
to get some stamps.

Message: 4603
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Gary/Soviets
Date: 10/29/88  Time: 04:18:29

        I'd say they have about 10 million good reasons.  Everyone wants to
get high.......

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Message: 1126
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: Slick 50
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 11:37:03

By the way, is that Slick 50 stuff really any good?

Message: 1127
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Todd/Slick 50
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 14:27:53

We have it in about 30 vechicles (not all ours) from 1600 cc engines, made
them quiter(sp), 250 L-6, several 350's lot of different Fords.  These
vehicles include compact cars, trucks, fullsize cars, vans, and
motorhomes...
I siezed up my engine becuase of a bad radiator, twice...  Both times the
starter wouldn't kick it over...  The first time the engine ran just as good
after as it did before, allthough that I am sure it did do some damage... 
The 2nd time it ran but the #2 exhaust valve had had a 1/4 of it burnt off
so, like I said, it ran but not very good. (got me home)
My dads friend had put Slick in his car, ran it for the three thousands mile
s and had the oil change by some quick oil change place....  About a week
after this he noticed that there was no oil pressure, checked the oil and
there wasn't any!  He drove the car for a 189 miles with no oil...

I'd say, IT WORKS....

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P.S.  My dad and I sell it for $22 a quart... If you goto Arkies or a gas
station they want $38 to $49 for it...  YES, we don't make any money off of
it...


Message: 1128
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Question?
Subject: Chris/ no$
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 02:52:42

        What brand of capitalism is that?  

ject: Topper
Date: 10/29/88  Time: 02:58:17

    Aw, I could carry any one of your dinky sportscars in the trunk of my
'68 Chevy Impala.  But what I really want is my parents' car:  a '69
Cadillac Calis, with a 472 engine.  Just *try* seating six adults in your
Porche or Corvette!
 
      /
  /  *  /  Alan
 *     *

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Message: 2220
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Drug Free America
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 21:46:18

Let's start by getting rid of all the alcohol and tobacco.

Somebody should have a bunch of ribbons made that say "LIAR" or "HYPOCRITE"
which can be slapped on the lapels of those with their pious "I've chosen to
be drug free" red ribbons who are caught with beer or cigarettes in hand.

Message: 2221
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 22:12:51

The sign says "The Choice for Me, DRUG FREE!"
 
Anyone want a bumpersticker?

Message: 2222
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Up Yours
Subject: Drugs
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 22:29:31

        I choose only those addictive drugs that are approved by the Food
and Drug Administration.
        I am a Loyal American, and would not insult my ever growing
government with traitorous acts of consuming something they do not approve
of.
        I am no hypocrite!

        Just a liar ........

Message: 2223
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: ...
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 00:52:53

God is a geek.

Message: 2224
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: B-Dog...
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 01:02:43

I want bumper sticker....  Pleaze!

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Message: 2225
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer !
Subject: Sandy/FDA approval
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 03:24:34

If I remember correctly the FDA doesn't have anything to do with tobacco. 
If the product is 50% or more tobacco, they have no control over it.  I
think that's why they can't do anything about clove cigarettes.

Message: 2226
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Jim/hypocrite
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 08:11:20

No hypocrite here - I stand with a cigarette in one hand and a glass of V.O.
in the other and say "Legalize Drugs' cause that's the only way! I'd like a
bumpersticker that said "I stand for free choice'! =*--ANN--*=

Message: 2227
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question ?
Subject: Zak
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 11:40:57

Are you basing your statement on the ideal that you, being created in the
image of God, are a geek?

Message: 2228
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: options
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 14:49:40

"The choice for me, THC", "The choice for me, LSD", "The choice for me,
liberty"

Message: 2229
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: options
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 20:06:11

"The choice for me is ROD-free"

Message: 2230
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Beyond...
Subject: Drugs
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 20:14:59

Tobacco
Liquer (Lick-her?)
Women
LSD, THC, PCP, M.Jane, etc etc
music
Shopping
Pizza
Tylenol
Computer hacking
75mph in a 25
Black sabbath at 78 speed.
Sugar
A good book
A Watergate tape
pepsi cola
Moutain dew
Iced tea
A mechanics Calendar
Skydiving
Zero gravity
Winning the lottery
Perfume on the hoof
Listening to Tom Leykis rip into Hucksters

Message: 2231
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Last
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 00:20:54

What is the point?

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Message: 2232
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
Subject: A joke...
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 00:26:58

This black guy walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder and the
bartender says, "Where did you get him from?" and the parrot says, "From
Africa, where did you think stupid!"
 

Message: 2233
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
Subject: Another Joke...
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 00:35:46

There are these two aliens flying around in outer space and they decide to
land.  They land in front of a gas station. It is 3 o'clock in the morning
and the gas station is closed, Alien #1 walks over to the gas pumps and says
to one of the gas pumps, "Take me to your leader", and since we all know
that gas pumps don't talk, it didn't say or do anything.  So the alien says
it again, " take me to your leader NOW!", and like I said, gas pumps don't
talk.  So Alien #1 says to the gas pump as he pulls out is laser gun, "Take
me to your leader or I will blow you away!", and like I said, gas pumps
don't talk. Alien #1 shoots the gas pump and it blows him across the street,
and him and Alien #2 are sitting there next to each other all chared and
alien #2 says to alien #1, "I told you that any one that is 4 feet tall, can
rap thier dick around them three times and stick it in thier ear, IS ONE BAD
MOTHER-FUCKER!!!!"

Still laughing?

Message: 2235
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
Subject: Another joke...
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 00:38:39

Why can't you trust a woman?
.
.
.
Anything that can bleed for five days and not die, CAN'T BE TRUSTED!

Some more...
Anything that can give milk without eating grass is strange!
Anything that can burry a bone without digging a hole first is also stange!!

Message: 2236
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: My jokes...
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 00:39:30

Some where gross, but I hoped you liked 'em!  Since Pat hasn't coughed up
any good ones lately, I had too.....
 
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Message: 2237
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Chris Neal
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 06:38:50

You are sick, and about 5 years late.
                =)) RALPH ((=

Message: 2238
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Chris
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 08:58:33

Where is Pat by the way? He hasn't been on in weeks.
I liked the parrot/african joke the best. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 2239
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question ?
Subject: Mike/your list?
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 09:00:00

I didn't understand it! Are these the things you like or dislike the most?
And what is perfume on the hoof? =*--ANN--*=

Message: 2240
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: CRUTCHES
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 12:50:15

See how they squirm?

Message: 2241
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Ann about Pat
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 14:36:37

He is going to school and working...  He gets on usually every night, but he
only answers mail.  If you leave him mail he will get back to you...  He
doesn't hardly have to even get on and leave mail but it would stack up if
he didn't.

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Message: 2242
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: GEEK
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 02:57:01

        ANYONE who believes that an eternal hell exists is a fucking GEEK.

                                        Rod
(thanx Zak)


Message: 2243
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer !
Subject: Last
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 06:18:25

I believe in an eternal hell.  Aren't we in it now?

Message: 2244
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Re-BuTTal
Subject: Rod's "LOVE"?????
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 10:41:36

This is a typical letter from Rod, the one who claims to love everyone?
Mail from Rod Williams
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 16:33:19


FUCK OFF, GEEK!  I did not call your ass hole god a geek. I called and still
will call anyone or anything a geek or a Sadistic monster that would create
a place of eternal punishment for anything it created.  If you are so
fucking narrow as to believe that such a place exists then I suggest you
take this system and shove it so far up your ass.

        Yes,  Anything that would create something and then design a place
for its rejects to be eternally punished is the lowest of the low.
        If you cannot understand this simple logic then I do not want to
associate with you or anything you run.

        If this is the way you feel then eliminate my name from this board.

        If you re-read the message, perhaps you will be able to understand
it.....doubtful though. 
[A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:
You judge the above...  High on somthing?  (Not life you can bet)

Message: 2245
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 11:32:19

Rod's problem is that he continually applies his logic to God's purpose.  In
other words, if God's plan of salvation for man were as simple as Rod
describes, then God might be described as sadistic.  However, Rod is
accepting only one definition of "hell," whereas "hell" is described on a
broad scale among various sects and denominations.  "Hell" is described
many different ways in the bible, which leaves differing interpretations
available.  Trying to boil it down to one interpretation is using faulty
logic, which negates any possible message Rod is trying to convey.

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 5:P.S.  Would anyone like to hear the tape of our phone conversation?
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Message: 2250
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: tape
Date: 10/29/88  Time: 03:49:42

I'm sure that Mark Adkins would enjoy hearing it.
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Message: 54911
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Tales & Tall Stories
Subject: Deep Thoughts
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 18:05:08

  Those airlines are getting pretty tolerant lately.  I used
to get nervous when they wouldn't let me wear my parachute.
Even now I sometimes wonder if the parachute will open if I
need it.  That's why I always take the extra precaution of
tying a safety rope around my neck.  Just in case.

  Here's a good joke.  Next time you go shark fishing with
a friend, wait until you find the really *hungry* sharks,
then punch a hole in the bottom of the boat.  When your 
friend sees all the water, tell him "That's okay, I just
knocked over the Porta-Potty."  He might try to jump, but you
just tell him, "Better count those dorsal fins - *CHUM*!"
Good joke, huh?

  I think a good invention would be Alarm Clock O' Shame.
Every five minutes it could say something like, "Hey!  Get
the lead out, stupid!" or "Haven't you finished that thing
yet?!"  They could include free earplugs for when you wanted
some peace and quiet or wanted to sleep or something like 
that.  But those earplugs make it kind of hard to hear the
morning wake-up messages.
  Take Alarm Clock O' Shame along when you get your car fixed
or when you're having surgery!

  I always find it difficult to avoid thinking of elevators
as really big yo-yos.  Next time you go for a ride on one,
wear an elevator attendant's uniform so you can control where
all the other passengers go.
  When they get in, press all the wrong buttons as if you're
really confused.  Just before you get to the next floor, do
an emergency stop because the cable might break, but they can
get out safely with a little climbing.  After they climb out,
let the elevator come up to floor-level, then say, "See.
That cable held up fine without all you lardcakes on board."
  After they get tired of playing yo-yo, it's fun to follow
them up the stairs saying, "Going up!  Going up!" or "Now
arriving at gate six."

  If you spin a gyroscope real fast it stays upright.  If
you spin your little nephew real fast he falls over.  I'm not
sure what this means, but it might have something to do with
the fact that gyroscopes can't run and hide whenever they
come to visit.

  Okay.  Here's what you do.  If you're in a country and you
want to be the hero of that country, sell arms to Iran.
  I've never tried this, but I think It'd work.

Message: 54913
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: The SYSOP Speaks
Subject: Rod
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 19:18:07

        I thought I made it plain there was to be no name calling of God on 
this SIG.  Take your insults to the mos board where users can tune them
out.

ntom Zone for you buddy!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Yes Paul, Rod is really in the Zone and I have explained to him why.
        Who's Next... you Ann?

Message: 54914
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: AIDS
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 22:08:26

Remember when sex was safe and skydiving was dangerous?

Message: 54915
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: B-dog
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 01:03:35

Please tell us what it is that you are on.

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Message: 54916
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff/ Rod's "move"
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 06:24:16

 What can you expect from somebody whose mind is so tripped out that he
actually thought he was on a ride with extraterrestrials?
Good move Cliff. I was silently wondering how long it would take, although I
quit arguing religion with Rod a long time ago, and tend to tune his garbage
out when he gets on that kick. It's useless.

Message: 54917
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Hard/Software
Subject: Looing for...
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 06:26:18

Ach! That should have read looking for!
Anyway, I would like a color monitor in good condition, and possibly a C128.
If you have one you would like to sell, leave me mail. Thanks.

Message: 54918
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Answer!
Subject: perverts
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 07:16:05

Hey.....guys.....

I'm opposed to homosexuals or perverts of any kind teaching my kids in
school because I believe that only a parent has a right to teach a child
about sex and morality.  I don't trust queers any more than I trust these
perverts who keep getting fired from the Mesa school district.

And as for the Creator, who said that christians have a lock on describing
him/her?  The answer, "Show me where it says in the Bible that......" just
doesn't cut it.  In college logic and debating classes, the first thing
they teach you about arguing (sorry, debating) is that you can't define a
subject by quoting it.

My religion and my philosophy are intensly personal, and they fulfill my
life a lot better than what passes for the same thing from some of the posts
on this board!  I'm sorry for someone who can't enjoy what they've received
from nature and the "force" or wherever they think they sprang from...

See Y'aa........

Jeannie

Message: 54919
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/God
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 07:58:48

I think it's pretty safe to say that even thought God is defined in the
Bible as a 'He' - No ones knows what gender He/She is and is probablly not
either of the two. The Jews at that time were very 'Macho' and would not
consider that God be a female. Until we come up with a better word - we use
He - but Jeannie isn't wrong to call God what she wishes. She's just as
right as you are! You are the one sounding a bit chavinistic dearie!
=*--ANN--*=


Message: 54920
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/the ZONE
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 08:01:41

Why would you mention my name and the 'ZONE' in the same breath? I'm a good
girl - see my last post to Paul - no insults or barbs and we were talking
religion too! Ta, ta. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54921
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Apollo Tips & Tricks
Subject: Paul's "Looing for"
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 10:13:33

        Anyone who BLUNDERS the header can edit it or replace it with out
haveing to bort and re-enter it from the top.   When you are in the
Message editor, just dit line ZERO as in:  E0, or try R0 to Replace line.
Believe me, it works!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54922
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Politics
Subject: Voters!
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 11:54:21

Do not vote for the lessor of 'Two Evils' this election ---

                 * VOTE LIBERTARIAN *

Show the two parties that we are disatisfied with their choices of
jackasses!!!

Message: 54923
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JEANNIE
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 12:28:57

     Did I miss something?  I hadn't realized "Sex and Morality" had become
a class.  In that case, I think only heterosexual virgins should be hired to
teach.
     Seriously, though - I don't think every homosexual (whether a teacher
or not) is out to seduce and 'convert' every member of his/her sex.  If this
were true, it could also be said that every Jewish teacher is out to teach
his/her students to be money-grubbing tightwads, not to mention pushing
a conversion of faith.
     I don't think a schoolboard would stand for any teacher pushing 
personal beliefs on students, whether these beliefs be sexual, religious or
whatever in nature..... So what if a teacher is gay, or black, or jewish...
if he/she teaches our kids to read & write, more power to that individual.
Especially these days, when many kids come out of school not knowing how to
read or write!

Message: 54924
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Ann...
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 16:24:05

        But the Libertarian's are "JACKASSES" .....  This country would
really go down the tubes FAST if they got in and tried any of their
unrealistic schemes.  Get real Ann....  J.T. may have you pegged correctly.

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54925
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 16:52:54

Nonsense, Cliff.  Did you see Ron Paul's answers to the debate questions on
C-SPAN?  He is the only candidate who has any substantive proposals for
getting rid of the deficit and taking care of other problems this country
faces.  I doubt that you have even given the Libertarian Party platform any
consideration at all.

Message: 54926
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Tales & Tall Stories
Subject: Tru Fax
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 18:07:23

  The government of Hong Kong has passed a new law to control
what it considers obscene materials.  The law divides all
media matter into three categories: Class I, acceptable for
general circulation; Class II, regarded as indecent (such
material must be wrapped, labeled, and kept from anyone under
eighteen); and Class III, which is obscene and banned 
altogether from the British crown colony.  According to the
*Hollywood Reporter*, "Under the legislation, any 
distributor, retailer, rental agency, publisher, printer, or
importer, that offers Class II articles without the required
warnings may be fined $128,000 and jailed for three years."
  The ill-defined categories have led the Hong Kong 
distributors of Warner Brothers videos to label a number of
their movies "indecent," among them *National Lampoon's
Vacation*, *The Color Purple*, *Bullitt*, *A Star Is Born*,
and *Casablanca*.

  Tillie Lenox, an eighty-three-year-old woman in Clearwater,
Florida, crashed her car through the window of Biggs Produce
while trying to park in front of the produce market.  "They
needed a new window anyway," she said.  *St. Petersburg 
Times*

  Don't you just hate those clothes made for pets?  The least
they could do is make little irons and washing machines so
your dog could do his own stupid laundry.  I always forget
to check the pockets for the little bones and stuff.  Also, a
Doggy Dry Cleaners chain would be a real big help for all the
formal rubberwear.

  I'd just like to know why they call brain tourniquets
"neckties."

  Just imagine ... Velcro contact lenses.

  I'm going to dress up for Halloween as a big piece of 
candy.  Then I'm going Trick-Or-Treating.  When the neighbors
open the door, all the kids will yell "TRICK OR TREAT!"
Then I'll jump into the kids' candy bags because *I'm* a
piece of candy!  Nobody will want their candy after I sit on
it, so I'll get to keep it all for myself.
  No.  Just kidding.  I'll give them their candy back after
I finish my trick.  Okay, even the squashed ones.  Okay, I'll
try to miss the kids too.

Message: 54928
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Dukakis
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 18:18:24

  In the news today, Dukakis is claiming that the Bush campaign has falsely
accused him of being in favor of restictive gun control laws. In light of
this, consider the following statement.
  
  "I do not believe in people owning guns, only police and military. I am
 going to do everything I can to disarm this state."
             -- Michael Dukakis  June 16, 1986
               
  Obviously Mr. Dukakis thinks that the American people are not only too
stupid to be allowed to own firearms, but too stupid to notice the
difference between his campaign propaganda and his past actions and
statements.
  The fact that he is willing to lie so boldly about his position on the
issues should be enough to shock even those who agree with his true
position on gun control into voting against him.

   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 54929
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Ann/Libertarians
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 18:19:34

  Ann is completely correct in this case. Vote Libertarian.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 54930
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Libertarian
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 18:24:07

Vote Libertarian.  Who cares?  Bush will win Arizona easily, so why not
throw your vote away?

Message: 54931
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod on God
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 19:50:02

Obviously Rod is ignoring and choosing to skirt the fact that man can
CHANGE and that he can also CHANGE God's mind. When you look at
two absolutes; (1) God knows the beginning and the end
and
               (2) God's will can be changed
 
You start to see double. In Rod's mind, he looks at the negative aspect
and attempts to force the issue and close his mind to the other side.
Rod therefore wishes no other satisfaction than to slander and wretch
about something he fears the most;
Truth.
        
                        -Mike

Message: 54932
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: (PHA)ntom Zone
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 20:32:35

What is it??

Message: 54933
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 21:16:54

        The ntom Zone is where you get put for a time when you break
some rule... A punishment SIG you might say...  Mostly done in FUN and it
is better than kicking anyone off.   When you have that added to your $tatus
profile, that then becomes the ONLY SIG you can get on...   Do you want to
visit it for a day Bob?   He he he
        Once you get removed from the PHAntom Zone, your $tatus is as it was
before you went in...nothing is destroyed.

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

P.S.  Some very interesting posts in there...  from years past.

Message: 54934
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Jim Lippard
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 21:25:31

        JIM, I did consider the Libertarians, and would take a chance with
them over the Democrats this year.... but Ron Paul's answers are Fairy Tales
that can't work.   
        Remember, the Libertarians are really Republican extreamists!
Also idealists and not realists.

        All you people who vote for the Libertarians are just wasting your
time and vote....  You will give no one a message, so why bother?

        Jim, I am amazed that you buy that dribble, and think it would realy
happen. 
        Maybe next time they will choose someone a bit better then Ron Paul!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54935
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Libertarians
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 21:48:04

  By voting for Libertarian candidates you can work towards breaking the
stranglehold of government upon us all. Even though we may not elect a
Libertarian President this time around, our votes will count for more in
the long run than they would if used any other way.
  The Libertarian Party and its platform are only about sixteen years old
but they are already the fastest growing source of political interest in
this country. The main obstacle facing Libertarian policies is the fact
that they are largely unknown. Everywhere that people become aware of the
platform and the reasons behind each position, they become converts. Every
vote cast for a Libertarian is a message. It forces the media to acknowledge
the party's existance and this forces them to explain part of the platform
in order to describe it. As vote totals increase around the country the
party wins permanent ballot status and the money now spent to get on the
ballot each year can go into advertising the party's positions to more
people and getting more votes.
  The interest that this fast growing third party generates has already
frightened both established parties into a fear of debating the issues
with any Libertarian candidate. They understand now that regardless of
how well they may be able to fight each other with personal attacks and
beauty contests, these tactics will not work against ideas.
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 21:50:42

  Eventually the ideas of the Libertarian party will take root in our
government one way or another. One way that is already at work is the
gradual acceptance of some of their ideas by the other parties (Note
Reagan's campaign theme of private vs. government initiative and the
success this brought to the Republican party). This process is positive of
course, but it is unlikely to result in enough of a shift toward individual
liberty to satisfy the electorate or solve the nations problems in itself.
  As Libertarian ideas spread and grow in power all over the country we
can expect to see a major change in American politics. The dismal failure
of the political left to adapt to reality and move away from its rejected
socialist philosophy has set the stage for a collapse of the Democratic
party. Libertarians will be moving into a much more visible stage of
politics on a national level with well financed and advertised campaigns
at the same time as the Democrats are losing support faster and faster.
  The result could well be that the Democrats will end up as a regional
power restricted to the northeastern U.S. while the Libertarians become
the second major national party. 
  All this depends on people voting for candidates who may not win yet, but
should. It makes no more sense to vote for one of two alternatives you do
not support than it would to vote in a one party election. 

Message: 54937
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 54934/Cliff
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 23:15:30

You say "Ron Paul's answers are Fairy Tales that can't work", but you didn't
answer my question as to whether or not you even heard what his answers
were.  Did you?  If not, then how can you make such a statement?
And what precisely about Paul's answers are "Fairy Tales"?  Giving specific 
plans for budget cuts to correct the deficit?  I suppose you think "a kinder
gentler America" and "a thousand points of light" are serious proposals?
   Libertarians are not Republican extremists.  That shows a lack of
understanding of what libertarianism is.  Libertarians are no more idealists
than the founding fathers of this country were.
   A vote for Ron Paul is proportionally more powerful than a vote for the
Republicans or the Democrats.  The Libertarians need get only a fraction of
the votes of the other parties in order to be a significant influence on the
future of the country.  As for a wasted vote, I can't think of any greater
waste than a vote for Bush or Dukakis.
   As for Paul's qualifications, he was a four-term U.S. Representative from
Texas who had the best voting record ever by the standards of the National
Taxpayers Union.
   It amazes me that someone like yourself who has expressed strict
constructionalist views about the U.S. Constitution would prefer Bush to Ron
Paul.  Paul is far closer to the views you have expressed than Bush is.
   It is too bad that Paul wasn't allowed to participate in the debates; it
would have been quite interesting.  I am sure that Bush and Dukakis would
have responded with nothing but ridicule, the same way they treated DuPont's
Social Security proposal.  That's the only way they could respond, because
Paul would make it clear that they are engaging in nothing but political
posturing while Paul is actually addressing the issues.

Message: 54939
Author: Rod Willliams
Category: Religion
Subject: HELL FIRE!
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 23:58:36

      I cannot believe that such a place as Eternal Hell exists.  If
I believed in Fairy Tales, which I do not, then I would say that this
person whom who call Satan would be the one responsible for creating
the Place Of Punishment.  

      I find this illogical also.  Why?  Because if your Fairy Tale
were true and Satan was the one who created Hell then it would only be
allowed by its Creator, your God.  This would mean that you have a
Super Intelligent Being creating half brained (us) individuals allowing some
of what He created to suffer eternal damnation.

      This is certainally beyond my comprehension and I suspect
beyond the understanding of any thinking person.  It is much like a
husband and wife bringing children into the world, allowing them to
flourish but the ones who didn't quite make the grade, damning them to
eternal pain.  Sure, you say, but we are not God, He can do that to
his children but mortal humans can't.  Well, if any of you do believe
in such a cruel system, I feel terribly sorry for your minds.  You are
brainwashed like the little children from North Carolina who stand
outside their school and say things they cannot possibly comprehend.
Someone, during your miserable little lives has done a terrible
disservice to you and you infect something worse than the AIDS virus
on those near you.  It's taken long enough for mankind to evolve into
an intelligent species.  Wake up!

Message: 54940
Author: Mike Dukakis
Category: Question?
Subject: This "Rod" guy
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 02:59:25

...I mean, who is this loon?  Is he, perhaps, one of those "BBS hoax
characters"?

Have you ever seen street people catching some zzz's on a bus bench?
   Whoever "Rod Williams" is, I think he's "waiting for a bus."  Know what I
mean?

     In the beginning, there was nothing.  Then God created light, and there
still was nothing, but you could see it real good.

                                     The Duke

Message: 54941
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last...
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 03:01:45

I dunno, but I can tell you one thing!
 
 
This 'Rod' guy has a helo of alot more upstairs thatn you do!!!!

----------=============*******>CHRIS<*******=============------114/18.8

Message: 54942
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Religion
Subject: Jeannie/Ann/God
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 05:29:54

Since God is a spirit, you probably both have a point, but for the life of
me, I can't visualize a woman creating the entire universe. Somewhere along
the way, she would have to make some major decisions, and without a man to
tell her what she thinks, everybody knows that a woman is hopelessly lost!
(Now this is neither a theological discussion, nor is it chauvinist, girls.
Just a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor, so don't go off on feminist tangents!)
Keep smiling!

Message: 54943
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 05:31:32

Thanks for the tip Cliff. The next time I louse up a header I'll try to
remember it.

Message: 54944
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 07:00:06

Boy are you in for it now, don't you know that the women on this board will
have you're hide for the statment you made?
                =)) SHOOT THEM ALL RALPH ((=

Message: 54945
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Feminists
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 07:19:29

Heyy.....All....

No feminists on this board, but here's one working mother who has definite
ideas on how her kids ought to be raised.  You guys can ponce and swagger
around all you like, but as long as I've got the choice, my kids are going
to be surrounded by role models that will help them in become functioning,
well adjusted adults.

As far as the sex and morality class goes, perhaps you've been out of school
for a long time, but the whole school day is a "sex and morality" class.
Kids learn attitudes about acceptable and non acceptable behavior from their
teachers and peers at school. as well at home in a family situation.

If you think a kid doesn't get confused when his folks are telling him one
thing, and his teacher is teaching him another, by word or example, you're
really living in one of those "fairy tales." (no pun intended!)  If a kid is
raised in a negative environment, it will affect him.  It's a parent's duty
to try to see that the kid is taught all the values that the parent holds to
be correct and proper.

See Y'aa..........

Jeannie

Message: 54946
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/joking
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 08:40:34

I knew you were joking! 

Message: 54947
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike Ducaca
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 08:42:38

Now that you've been on the board -we need to hear from Bush - so that we
can hear two jackasses braying at once like we did at the debates!
=*--ANN--*=

Message: 54948
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob - the ZONE
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 08:48:07

Don't ask about it - don't think about going there! It isn't pleasent. You
cannot post messages to anyone except the Mighty Sysop and he dosn't have to
answer if he doesn't want to! You can only read real old messages from
people that for the most part, arn't even on Apollo anymore. You never know
how long you will remain in there and may be forgotten for years! Your
pleadings to be let out will fall on deaf ears! In the mean time - life goes
on on the board - by the time you get out, you'll have a thousand messages
to go through and many important issues will be missed. So DON'T ask!
=*--ANN--*=

Message: 54949
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: User log
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 08:49:59

I looked at today's user log first thing and noticed we had two celebrities
log on - Michael Dukakis and Ben Franklin. This is becoming a popular BBS!
=*--ANN--*=

Message: 54950
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff/pegged
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 08:51:54

You say JT has me pegged? Which one is that? He doesn't agree with anything
I say or do - so you'll have to give me a clue. =*--ANN--*=

              * VOTE LIBERTARIAN *

Message: 54951
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Did anyone ....
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 09:07:23

.... notice that post # 54939 was not from 'THE' Rod Williams - but from Rod
'Willliams'? He's in the Zone - remember? =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54952
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Dean/Libertarians
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 09:20:00

Well put, Dean.  I was going to post on the subject, but you said it all. 
And well!
        xxxooo

Message: 54953
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Jim L-pp--d
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 10:05:41

        Are you talking about where Ron Paul answered the
Republican/Democrat debate question with REHEARSED ANSWERS?

        Why would the other guys be afraid of Ron Paul?  I am sure if they
thought his stupid ideas would work and solve all the world problems, they
would grasp them with open arms.  I will admit some of them sound too good
to be true...and they are.

        I do not like Bush, but I really do not like that Democrat at all.
If too many people vote for Ron Paul.... maybe the Democrat will get in as I
feel the Libertarians share more of the Republican ideals than Democrats.
I don't like Ron Pauls stand on drugs...and I feel that may be your main
reason for voting for him.

P.S.  I do not dislike Bush...but he seems to be lacking something to add
the excitment for real support....

P.S.S.  Can you tell me if Ron Paul is a Christian even?

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54954
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 10:35:10

I am talking about the tape that was broadcast on C-SPAN.  Oh, and like Bush
and Dukakis didn't prepare their answers in advance either.  The Republicans
and Democrats arranged the debates themselves, with control over who was
asking the questions, how the debate would be limited, and so forth. 
Preparing answers in advance doesn't seem criticizable to me--after all, one
hopes that presidential candidates would have their policies worked out
before they run.
   Ron Paul's stand on drugs is ONE reason I'm voting for him, but certainly
not the only or even the main one.  His stand, by the way, would reduce
drug-related crime, reduce exposure of children to illegal drugs, and, if
the example of Holland is any indication, reduce the use of illegal drugs.
   He is in favor of across the board spending cuts, a program of economic
reform that the Republicans sometimes pretend to offer (but belie with their
actions--social spending and defense spending have increased under Reagan),
tax cuts, repeal of income tax, and so forth.
   I believe Paul is a Christian, but unlike Bush he believes in religious
freedom and tolerance even of those who have no religion.  He is opposed to
abortion, in fact--though he feels that is not an issue for federal
government just as there are no federal laws against murder.
   Paul is the only candidate who has come out against ridiculous government
subsidies (like subsidization of tobacco growers at the same time tobacco
products are taxed and the "War on Drugs" is going on).

Both the Republicans and Democrats seem to have the impression that domestic
problems can be solved by having the government spend money on them, an
impression which is totally falsified by the history of the war on poverty,
war on drugs, farm subsidies, and socialized medicine.  Yet these two
parties continue to propose "solutions" based on this impression.  It is
only the Libertarians who have come out against this idea and are demanding
that government get out of the business of building homes & implementing
rent control (and creating homeless), trying to control what people consume
(and creating organized crime), paying people not to grow crops and
subsidizing foolish loans (and resulting in farm foreclosures).
Further, it is the Libertarians who point out the foolishness of calling the
Soviets the "evil empire" while at the same time increasing subsidies to the
Soviet Union.

Message: 54956
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: The "ZONE"
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 13:08:34

Far out Ann!  I will try to be a good boy scout.  From the posts I've read
author by Rod, I would hate to be shut up in the "ZONE" with him.  Who
knows, he might even try to shake my *left* hand.  And we all know what that
means!

Message: 54957
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Answer!
Subject: Will the real Rod...
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 13:11:32

Please stand up!  Not only did he misspell his name, but he lost his $tatus
as well!

Message: 54958
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 14:40:51

May I ask why Rod was put in the ZONE?

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Message: 54959
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jeanie
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 14:41:46

How ald are your kids?

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Message: 54960
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Republicans
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 15:25:21

Under the Reagan administration:
  Since 1980, federal spending has increased by $400 billion (which is
approximately $150 billion military, $100 billion interest on the debt, and
$150 billion domestic).
   Revenues have increased from $504 billion in 1980 to $860 billion in 1988
(a 60% increase).  Spending, on the other hand, has increased by 66%--so
spending continues to outrace revenue, something which has historically been
the case for many years now.

Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats have any intention of changing
this.  It's fairly obvious that it can't continue forever.  Eventually the
economy will be forced into a correction.  The Libertarians propose starting
to make the correction now.  The Republicans and Democrats would apparently
rather have it fix itself, which will be far more drastic.

Message: 54961
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Question?
Subject: Hathaway
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 16:26:07

Can you name any historical precedent for your prediction that the
Libertarian Party will one day become a major political force?

Message: 54962
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Tales & Tall Stories
Subject: Tru Fax
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 18:34:32

  An eighty-three-year-old Newark, New Jersey, woman was
arrested by the city's narcotics squad and charged with 
intent to distribute more than 220 grams of cocaine.  
According to police, the woman, Cora "Grandma" Lilly, was
identified a being one of the largest dealers in the city.
*Star-Ledger*

  An eighty-one-year-old Oakland, California, woman was 
arrested in a drug sweep when police found cocaine
"commingled with her belongings."  *San Francisco Chronicle*

  In Euclid, Ohio, a seventy-nine-year-old woman was fined
and sentenced to jail after pleading guilty to selling LSD to
neighborhood youths.  *Detroit News*

  Dr. Max John Coebergh, a seventy-one-year-old retired 
dentist in Rancho Bernardo, California, was sentenced to six
months' house arrest after kneeing a tennis opponent in the
groin.  The victim, a psychologist who lost a testicle as a
result of the incident, did not know Coebergh, but the two 
had been matched that day for a tennis game.  Coebergh won,
but claimed he thought his opponent would attack him after 
losing.  *(Escondido, California, Times-Advocate*
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 18:48:17

  When is somebody going to collect all those "recipes for
disaster" into one convenient cookbook?  I don't know about 
everybody else, but my recipe file is a MESS!
  Also, what about all those accidents-waiting-to-happen?
If they didn't all have to stand in the same line they
probably wouldn't have to wait so long.  The accidents that
*Never* happen must have to wait *forever*.  Like 
twelve-story lesbian rodents wearing bagels and party hats
and stuff like that.  I just hope *those* accidents never get
tired of waiting because they'd probably start happening all
at once.

  How does one proceed in disposing of one's wastebasket?
Put it into a larger wastebasket?  Who disposes of the
largest wastebasket?  How do they dispose of *it*?  Maybe
*that's* why we have so many of the scummy wastebaskets
around!

  I bet whenever the UFO guys see Mount Rushmore, they turn
around and fly away *real* fast.  Those Pentagon experts
sure know how to plan ahead!

Message: 54964
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: Jeannie
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 19:10:26

Your last post gets an A+.
You just climbed up several steps on the ladder of my admiration.
Never lose sight of your goals or your love for your children, and they will
become adults of which you will be justifiably proud. God bless you.

Message: 54965
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 20:19:56

        Ditto on the last post ..........

Message: 54967
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Answer!
Subject: Taranto
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 20:55:07

No, does that make a difference?
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 54968
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Platform
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 20:58:17

  I uploaded an ascii file containing the Libertarian Platform to the
Library tonite. I called it LibPlat.txt.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 54969
Author: George Bush
Category: Question?
Subject: Ron Paul
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 21:04:59

Wasn't he that guitar player from the 50's?

Message: 54970
Author: George Bush
Category: Question?
Subject: Chris Neal
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 21:09:25

You know, Chris, up until this point I thought it couldn't get any worse.  I
mean, here's this wazoo ranting on about rape, murder and government crime
(in the SAME sentence, mind you), and now I discover he has groupies!

If Williams could shit gold bricks, you'd be there to buy them.  I think
you're "waiting for a bus", too.

Message: 54971
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Willliams
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 21:51:41

Haven't we heard all that before?

Message: 54972
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Chris Neal
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 00:21:21

        I posted why Rod would spend ONE DAY in the ZOne...
It might pay you to read my posts from the last few days.

Rod did not lose $tatus... he was just put in the PHAntom Zone for a day.
He did log on under a modified spelling of his name to answer the charges.
Under that name, he did not have $tatus.

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54973
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Libplat.txt
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 00:36:34

        The file Dean [U]ploaded is in the [L]ibray even though you will not
see it listed in the [F]iles available.  The name to [D]ownload is
LIBPLAT.TXT (this is an ASCII file)
        
                Thanks Dean!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54974
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: News Today
Subject: FOR ANN
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 01:45:03

SWEDEN GIVES LIBERTY, IF NOT LIFE, TO STOCK
  
     The Swedish welfare state, long renowned for its generosity and scope,
is extending its reach into a new frontier:  the barnyard.
     During the past few months, Sweden has begun implementing a rights
program for farm animals that may be the most stringent in the world.
     Under an animal-welfare law enacted in July, cattle, pigs, and chickens
are being freed from the restrictions of so-called factory-farming methods. 
     In addition to the inherent concerns about humane treatment of animals
and food quality in this liberal Scandinavian society, the legislation
reflects the extraordinary political clout of an 81-year-old Swedish writer,
Astrid Lindgren.
     She is one of the world's most widely read authors of children's books,
perhaps best known as the creator of the character Pippi Longstocking.
     Lindgren demonstrated the power of the pen in Swedish affairs by
writing a series of satirical allegories in leading newspapers underscoring
the plight of farm animals and fueling the animal-welfare campaign.
     Swedish cattle have been given grazing rights under the new law.
     Pigs no longer can be tethered and must be granted separate bedding and
feeding places.
     Both cows and pigs must have "access to straw and litter," the law
says.
     Chickens must be let out of their cramped cages.
     Most of the requirements will be phased in during the next few years, 
but the provision making all chickens free rangers will be stretched out to
give farmers time to build more-spacious accommodations.
     Even when they are being killed, Swedish farm animals apparently have
rights.
     "All slaughtering must be as humane as possible," the act declares.
  
(by Steve Lohr, The New York Times)

Message: 54976
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Politics
Subject: R. PAUL ON DRUGS
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 01:56:15

     At this point in the game, Mr. Paul's plan is fast becoming the only
logical solution left.
     The Reagan administration's "war on drugs" was a dismal failure.  And
who was suppose to be coordinating this war?  George Bush.
     Getting our kids to mouth "Just say no" at rallies does not a war
win.

Message: 54978
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mr. George Bush
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 02:28:34

To bad your to much of a Chicken-$#!+ to log in under your real name!

Sorry Cliff.
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Message: 54979
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Religion
Subject: God
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 02:59:05

        I think it is pretty safe to say that God is a woman.  I see no
problem with that.

Message: 54980
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Awards
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 03:12:52

        Jim Lippard and Dean Hathaway posted some damn great messages.  I
think their posts should be published for all America to read.  Of course
all America can't read or for that matter, they can't think.
        Honorable mention goes to the DUKE for his latest post.
                                Rod
P.S.  Darn good to be out of the Phantom Zone.  Hey, it's pure HELL in
there.

Message: 54981
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff/Libplat.txt
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 06:28:47

Something with this file is glitched.  I only got it to print out three or
four lines, and then it acted like the download was complete.

Message: 54982
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: James Hawley/LIBPLAT
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 10:29:38

        There seems to be some control code in it...  I do not know what
word processor that Dean Hathaway used, so XMODEM it down....
Maybe DEAN will fix it and resend it... it will load into my WordStar okay,
but instead of seeing the '>' at the end of each line meaning Carriage
Return,  I see 'J's and that is not standard for sure.

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54983
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Vote
Subject: Old Vote results
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 10:33:02

        Have you seen a UFO?  Do you even believe in such things?  Answer
with one that is CLOSEST to your view or experience.  (be serious)

[A] I have seen a UFO in the sky.
[B] I have seen a UFO on the ground.
[C] I have seen a UFO and Alian life
[D] I have been abducted by an Alian
[E] I have never seen a UFO but I believe there is life from other worlds.
[F] I have not seen one and do not believe in such nonsense.
[G] I just don't know if they exist or not?

Poll results to date:
[A] 3    [B] 0    [C] 0    [D] 2    [E] 10   [F] 9    [G] 10 

Message: 54984
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: last
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 11:19:16

What's an "alian"?

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Message: 54986
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jim & Dean
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 16:42:09

Good posts on the Libertarians. =+= ANN =+=

Message: 54987
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Apollo Scoop!
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 16:43:47

What Apollo V.I.P with the initials of M.S. was seen sporting a new beard
that makes him more handsome, distinguished and scholarly looking? =+= ANN
=+=

Hint: It is not Jeannie or Sandy!

Message: 54988
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter/Sweden
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 16:44:22

Three great big cheers for Sweden! That's wonderful. =+= ANN =+=

Message: 54989
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: LIBPLAT.TXT
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 19:08:02

  I resent it to Cliff as an ASCII upload, so it should be downloadable as
ascii if/when he puts the new one up. The existing one is okay except that I
uploaded it xmodem and it had linefeeds at the end of each line because that
is what an Amiga uses.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 54990
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: LIBPLAT.TXT
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 19:16:58

        Okay Dean, I put it in the ibrary (no listing, but it is there)
And this time I ownloaded it just fine... all the way.   However, there
still is something in there that should not be there...maybe a page break?
but...it does ownload in ASCII to my IBM (SANYO) PC.

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54991
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Tales & Tall Stories
Subject: Tru Fax
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 19:44:05

  Seventy-five-year-old Otto Henning, a tourist from West
Germany, tried to kill himself by jumping twice from a 
high-rise hotel in New York City.  Police spokesman Barry
Hugh said, "First he jumped from the terrace of his room on
the fourteenth floor and landed on the terrace of the 
thirteenth floor.  Then he jumped from the thirteenth floor
and landed on an extension of the tenth floor."  Henning was
rescued from the ledge and suffered only a broken left arm.
*Reuters*

  Florence King, a sixty-five-year-old Bradenton, Florida,
resident, landed in jail for a cooling-off period after an
argument with her husband, Earl, sixty-seven, over his 
refusal to have sex.  To vent her disappointment, Mrs. King
threw cups against a hallway wall, repeatedly slammed a 
carport door until the glass shattered, threw Earl's clothes
into the yard, and threatened to kill him.  *Bradenton 
Herald*

  The *Daily Breeze* of Louisiana published this memorable
sentence: "A weekend garage and bake sale raised $1,200 
toward a $5,000 reward for information leading to the arrest
and conviction of a teenager found shot to death a month 
ago."

  A lot of people don't know that art museums collect
autographs on all the pictures.  I saw one painting signed
by my next-door neighbor, Joe Rembrandt.  Make sure to bring
your own pen though, because those art museum guards are
real stingy.  He took back his stupid pen before I was
finished.  At least he didn't get my autograph.
  Serves him right.  Jerk.

  Yesterday I got a job driving a bulldozer at a construction
site.  When you drive them around in reverse they beep to
tell you that you haven't run over anybody yet.  That way,
you don't even have to look where you're going.  I was
thinking, if they made bulldozers that beep when they go
*forward*, even blind people could get some of the 
high-paying construction jobs.
  But then they'd probably go around building a bunch of
seeing-eye-dog schools and stuff like that.
  Nevermind.

  Always select the appropriate construction materials for
the building environment.  For instance, mudbrick 
construction methods wouldn't stand a chance in the Realm O'
Cleansers.

Message: 54993
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hathaway
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 20:00:30

Since you cannot cite any historical precedent, can you offer any evidence
that either (1) the Democratic Party is likely to cease being a major party
or (2) if it does, the Libertarian Party is likely to supersede it as the
second major party?

Message: 54994
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: LIBPLAT.TEXT
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 21:35:39

    Lots of errors and missing text.  Hmmm...

Message: 54995
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Question?
Subject: Dean Hathaway
Date: 10/29/88  Time: 00:34:46

Why on earth do you resent it?
 
Carol->
 

Message: 54996
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/Sandy/Jeannie
Date: 10/29/88  Time: 00:45:41

I have to disagree with you about the raising of children. I agree with the
premise, of course..and I admire your ideals. However, we are not taking
into consideration the 'free wills' of the aforementioned young persons, nor
the peer pressure that is applied to them. I have seen too much lately which
seems to discount all that I ever learned concerning how much impact
'correct' upbringing has on children.
 
It is still an 'individual' problem. How many persons do you know who have
had outrageous upbringings and yet have managed to rise above it and become
admirable persons?  I know many. And the converse is very, very, prevalent
today!   Kids whose parents devoted their lives to raising their children
with proper values, much love, and all that goes with it, are now in stunned
disbelief as they watch their kids blowing their brains out with drugs and
watch them get 'stoned' on heavy metal music with all its implications...the
'fast life', the 'irresponsible life' the 'let's live for NOW - there is no
future' philosophy.  
 
If I sound negative, perhaps it is because I am really getting frightened to
see what is happening to the youth of today - this is not just a mere
'generation gap'...this is out and out suicide.  Tell me I am wrong...I
would just love to be.......Carol->

Message: 54997
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gadds! Libplat.txt
Date: 10/29/88  Time: 01:52:23

        Okay, I took the copy I ownloaded into WordStar and made a true
ASCII file from it by deleting the CTRL Codes... Now try it!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54998
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Answer!
Subject: "Alian"/54984
Date: 10/29/88  Time: 02:49:37

   Aw, is Cliff misspelling my name again?
 
     /
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*     *

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Message: 427
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Christian Rod!
Subject: Locksmithing
Date: 10/25/88  Time: 23:58:30

We recently had the misfortune of losing our keys. Luckily we found a
locksmith who would help us out at that particular late hour of the night.
He used a simple "impress-and-file down" method on standard brass blanks. It
was impressive (job done 20 minutes) plus you know you have the only copies!

Message: 428
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: last
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 03:31:14

Everyone will have keys now.  

Message: 429
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Cliff the sysop
Date: 10/26/88  Time: 08:18:41

How long is Rod gonna be in the Zone? 

Message: 430
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Shall we ....
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 09:05:12

.... start another story? As soon as my computer gets healed at Cliff's - I
will start one - have in mind a futuristic one!!?? OK? I may be off Apollo
for a few days (the thought makes me sweat!).
                       =*--ANN--*=

Message: 431
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Mighty SYSOPs
Subject: Last
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 20:26:46

        With Ann gone for a bit .......

ANN IS A DUMB BUTT!   AN AIRHEAD!    

Ann will not sweat .... she is unable to think a thought.

She likes little boys and rubber toys.

                        Hehehehehehehehehe ........

Message: 432
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Christian Rod!
Subject: Daryl
Date: 10/27/88  Time: 23:12:47

If he was a good locksmith, as James pointed out, he shouldn't have any
trouble remembering the key code.

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 2:
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 2:
 3:        SERVICE CALL (during normal hours)           $100.00
 4:        AFTER HOURS                                   500.00
 5:
 6:        CORVETTE IGNITION KEY MADE                   1000.00
 7:                 DOOR KEY                             500.00
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Message: 435
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: A short story
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 17:10:33

The dawn came up with all it's beauty, promicing a perfect day. But as Ann
sat in front of her computer, she knew it was going to be a terriable day
because it was finally time to take her computer into the doctor - doctor
Cliff! She had dreaded this day for months, but it was here and there was
nothing she could do about it.
She slowly unhooked the modem, the printer cable and the computer - all the
time humming the 'Funeral Durge' under her breath. Finally, all the stuff
was packed into her beautiful Corvette for the long journey to the Mighty
Sysop's house.

Sandy and Cliff greeted her warmly and after the 'hello's' were over with,
Cliff got down to business, telling Ann what miracles he was going to
preform.
"Cliff, When do you suppose you will be done?" Ann asks as her lips quiver.
"Actually Ann, it'll only take a few minutes to fix, but I want to keep it a
couple of days. As you know, I don't get to work on a marvelous Tandy
computer very often and I want the chance to feast my eyes on the wonderful
mechinics of your machine. Please indulge me for a brief while anyway!"
"Oh Cliff, I guess I can do without it for a couple of days. So go on and
enjoy yourself!"
Cliff utterly jumped for joy. "I'll have it back to you tomorrow afternoon.
OK?"
"Sure Cliff - see you then".

The two days seemed like twenty to Ann, but it was finally time to call
Cliff to see if the computer was fixed.
"Hello Cliff, this is Ann."
"Oh, hello Ann. Say, I have a great propositions for you. I want to buy your
glorious Tandy 1000 computer! Please! I've never seen such a magnificent
thing in my life!!"
"Oh Cliff, I can't part with it, but if I did, how much would you pay?"
"I'd give you $2,500 right now!"
"But Cliff......."
"And I'd throw in 2 Sanyo computers, 10 disks, printer paper and a used
microwave oven!"
"I can't part with it even at that price Cliff. I'm sorry!"
That's OK Ann, I understand, but can I come over and visit it once in a
while?"
"Of course you can. But right now I'm headed over to your house to pick it
up. Bye!"
"Bye!"
Epilog: Ann joyously got her computer put back together and is logging on to
Apollo. But deep inside she feels guilt. When she had left Cliff's, he vowed
to go to every store in the valley looking for a computer just like hers and
swearing he wouldn't come back until her found on. Ann sat with tears in her
eyes - knowing he'd never be seen again because they don't make them as good
as this anymore. Poor Cliff!
                      *The End *

Message: 437
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Last two...
Date: 10/28/88  Time: 19:22:31

        B A R F !!

Lies will get you the ntom Zone dear sweet Ann......

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*


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 1:        When my computer needed a repair, Cliff personally drove over to my 
 2:house, picked it up, gave me a complete loaner system (including a 60 meg 
 3:hard drive), repaired my system and delivered it back to me the next 
 4:afternoon.
 5:        My board needed 12 new chips and a power supply.  The TOTAL bill 
 6:came to $5.12.
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