Apollo BBS Archive - October 10, 1988




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Message: 4444
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: JT
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:16:59

But it would be tried in a court located in Arizona, right?

Message: 4445
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Kars / Automotive
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 20:23:40

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
It seems so funny listening to you talk about Kars...  I just can't see you
getting greasy, although I don't know why...
This weekend I worked on my neighbors 83 Ford Ranger 2.8 V-6.  I repacked
the front wheel bearings, new plugs cap and rotor, hoses upper and lower,
thermostat, oil change, and alot more........
 
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Message: 4446
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Kars / Automotive
Subject: Chris
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 21:12:31

        It is not so strange that I work on cars.  I once had a race care
(quarter mile) that I built and drove...  to many victories I might add.
Many years ago I worked for the Ed Miller Racing team and ran Mopar Hemi
cars.  in 1967, Ed Miller was the worlds Super Stock Champ in a Hemi
Plymouth.
        
*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 4447
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Kars / Automotive
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 23:33:26

Tell us more!
 
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Message: 4448
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Kars / Automotive
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 01:52:14

Milling the heads and doing a little port matching is far from all you're
going to need to blow me into the weeds. Why not race Ann for starters? I'll
take on the winner just for laughs.

Message: 4449
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Kars / Automotive
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:10:41

So you've got a lot of credentials, but are you any good?
I've got a Ford 460 that seems to be in need of some work, but have learned
to distrust most so-called Ford "experts", especially since Don Sanderson,
with all his high dollar equipment and high priced technicians (to the
public) couldn't find a crack in my distributor cap.
At the moment it is acting like a sick carburetor, or possibly some faulty
valves, and I have outgrown my need or desire for fame in the mechanic line.
 If you need more info, give me a call. I think you have my unlisted number.

Message: 4450
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Don Sanderson
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:45:40

Don Sanderson has been dead for a year or two.

Message: 4451
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Answer!
Subject: Todd
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 07:37:04

Hey......Toddie.........

What else is there to do in a jug except get out of it?

See Y'aa..........
Jeannie

Message: 4452
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Chris on Cliff
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:36:07

What makes you think he gets greasy? Have you ever seen his garage and
equipment? They are so spotless, you cound eat off them and the floor too. I
also cannot see Cliff getting greasy, coming into the bathroom to wash up,
leaving his dirty clothes on the floor, leaving the sink and soap greasy and
the towel filthy too --- like my darling hubby does. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 4453
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:13:21

Can you turn my rotors?

Message: 4454
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ssssandy
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:13:46

My friends can call me Todd.
 
 
Mr. Paul Savage can call me Mr. Reese.

Message: 4455
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Jeannie
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:14:11

Would you like some help getting out of your jug?

Message: 4456
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Question?
Subject: Nick
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 12:59:56

Exactly what do you have that is so BIG AND BAD?
Year, model, make and C.I.D.
 
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Message: 4457
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Rotors
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 13:08:16

        Yes, I can turn rotors!  I have a 17 inch swing lathe.

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 4458
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Burkhart
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:05:45

It would be in U.S. District Court in Arizona, not Arizona Superior Court.

Message: 4459
Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: To(dd)
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:33:44

   If you friends can call you 'Todd' (with two d's) and Paul can call you
Mr. Reese.....does that mean that I can call you 'Toad'?
 
(LL)oyd Pulley

Message: 4460
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 21:30:43

        Instead of Toad, he might want to be called Toddy.

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 1:        Good Mormons do not drink alcohol (or even caffein).  The question 
 2:is, are you a good Mormon, Todd?  My religion permits me to drink whiskey 
 3:and beer but I hate the stuff.  The only thing it ever did for me was give 
 4:me enough nerve in high school to ask the girlies to dance.  I had to have 
 5:at least one beer in order to dance.
 6:                                Me
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Message: 1046
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Review/Critique
Subject: last
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 02:01:09

Your poem is misleading. You do not dry the entire banana, just the
scrapings from the inside of the peels.

Message: 1047
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Review/Critique
Subject: Daryl & Rod/bananas
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:37:31

Cute odes - now, how about cabbage? 

Message: 1048
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:41:37

There are a lot of cabbage heads out there.


Message: 1049
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cabbage Heads
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:49:36

Cabbage Heads, Cabbage Heads
All in a row
Watch them rot in a vacant lot
and kick them with your toe
Throw them up against the wall
And watch them bounce around
Dress them up in formal tux
And let them paint the town
Cabbage Heads, cabbage heads
Never get a date
They just sell insurance
And always get in late.

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Message: 2108
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Up Yours
Subject: B.Dog
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 19:57:17

Essentially it's the peaceniks and the little old ladies with the electric
golf carts screeching for disarmament...these are the true war mongers.
Little does the general population realize that when totally disarmed,
a country gets invaded, that the true genocide begins...and this is what
they REALLY want.
 
You've been watching too much T.V.  -Soap opera's will do that to you.
 
        -Mike

Message: 2109
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Last
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 20:25:23

I have to agree with Mike 100%!
 
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Message: 2110
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Oh, Right.
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 22:54:15

Pacifists want to die. Pacifists REALLY want genocide, eh? Guess you have to
be a pacifist to know JUST WHAT pacifists want.

Message: 2111
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question ?
Subject: Mike/last
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:43:03

'Peaceniks and little old ladies in electric golf carts, screeching for
disarmament are the true War Mongers'??? How did you come to that
conclusion? Doesn't make sense. What is your diffenition of 'Peaceniks'?
=*--ANN--*=

Message: 2112
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer !
Subject: Last
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:45:01

One who does not get apeace!!!!is a nic.
                       The Old Fart Ralph

Message: 2113
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Carter
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:01:27

I'm *not* for unilateral disarmament, but *total* disarmament, like I said.
 
It is twisted people like you who think up slogans like "War is Peace"

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 1:        So, what's a life.  Exactly what is this shit we call flesh and why 
 2:is it so damn important.  When mankind grows up he will discover that a 
 3:death is no more or less important than a birth.  
 4:        If you ask me, it (flesh) is just some sort of sick growth.  Well, 
 5:it sure in the hell ain't WELL, is it?  It sure isn't that intelligent, is 
 6:it?  If it were intelligent, I guess, we would have a wonderful world.
 7:                                Ugh
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Message: 2115
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: (see below)
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:58:04

"Industrial Funkadelic Sludge"
 
My sister has just one buttock
And lives in someplace Greek
She tattooed rainbows on her nose
And dates a fucking geek
I walk around in Polyester
Whistling the news
My father sits on flaming spears
And downs a couple brews
I don't know where my mother is
We lost her years from now
She'll probably return last week
But I don't quite know how
I dance around industrial waste
In the flatulent breeze
Some say a rose would smell as sweet
I think I'll belch at trees.

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 1:        Publish, publish, publish.
 2:end

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Message: 1571
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: jobs
Date: 10/07/88  Time: 23:41:14

Bumper sticker on beat-up old Buick:
 
Shucks!  I forgot to get a job!

Message: 1572
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Night-Life
Subject: Movies
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:02:24

Did anybody else see "The Big Clock" on CHannel 8 Friday night? It was
_great_!!!

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Message: 54556
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:15:00

Refusing to understand jokes, eh?
I take it you think the Dukakis campaign's ad is NOT silly?

Message: 54557
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: U.S. Propaganda
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:39:37

  If the U.S. were a totalitarian state, the Ministry of
Truth would simply have said, "It's right for us to go into
Vietnam.  Don't argue with it."  People would have
recognized that as the propaganda system, and they would have
gone on thinking whatever they wanted.  They could have
plainly seen that we were attacking Vietnam, just as we can 
see that the Soviets are attacking Afghanistan.
  People are much freer in the U.S., they are allowed to
express themselves.  That's why it's necessary for those in
power to control everyone's thought, to try to make it appear
as if the only issue in matters such as U.S. intervention in
Vietnam are tactical: Can we get away with it?  There is no
discussion of right or wrong.
  During the Vietnam War, the U.S. propaganda system did its
job partially but not entirely.  Among educated people it
worked very well.  Studies show that among the more educated
parts of the population, the government's propaganda about
the war is now accepted unquestioningly.
  One reason that propaganda often works better on the
educated than on the uneducated is that educated people read
more, so they receive more propaganda.  Another is that they
have jobs in management, media, and academia and therefore
work in some capacity as agents of the propaganda system -
and they believe what the system expects them to believe.

Message: 54558
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: U.S. Propaganda
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 17:44:59

By and large, they're part of the privileged elite, and share
the interests and perceptions of those in power.
  On the other hand, the government had problems in 
controlling the opinions of the general population.  
According to some of the latest polls, over 70 percent of 
Americans still thought the war was, to quote the Gallup 
Poll, "fundamentally wrong and immoral, not a mistake."
  Due to the widespread opposition to the Vietnam War, the
propaganda system lost its grip on the beliefs of many
Americans.  They grew skeptical about what they were told.
In this case there's even a name for the erosion of belief.
It's called the "Vietnam Syndrome," a grave disease in the
eyes of America's elites because people understand too much.

Message: 54559
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last 100
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 19:47:13

How ASSinine

Message: 54560
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/Nickelodeon
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 22:56:33

Though you are right (that children should be instructed about other parties
and voting independent), could you tally how many of those kids would vote
for Ron Paul? To be honest, it would look bad for him, and could subject him
to ridicule from future voters. What's worse, absence and honor, or presence
and disgrace?

Message: 54561
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/54551
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:02:07

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 1:        If there are three or more parties, each should have the same 
 2:benefits, each should be allowed in the debate.  If one or more looks silly 
 3:and is ridiculed then we can just ignore them.  One has to go out of their 
 4:way in order to find out about other parties and this isn't fair.  
 5:        I still think the 'machine' controls both Demo and Rep. parties and 
 6:won't allow equal time (or even a little time) to the others.
 7:        Well, that was 2 cents.
 8:                                Rod
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Message: 54561
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/54551
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 05:02:07

Considering some recent entries of yours, I can't believe you jumped on Ann
for that joke!
Talk about a Self Righteous SIG for me! How about a HYPocritical SIG for
your own exclusive use?
Personally, I see no reason for either on a family board, but her dumb joke
is far preferable to your name calling.

Message: 54562
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT/your joke
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:27:38

That was funny to a degree. However, the secret to a good joke is 'the fewer
words the better with a good punch line'! 
By the way - I know where mine is! Do you? I left mine in Taylor Arizona in
1982! =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54563
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike/last 101
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:28:11

And you have just contributed! =*--ANN--*=

Message: 54564
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: War!
Subject: Paul Savage
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 10:46:30

        I did NOT jump on Ann for her Joke... I was talking about posts in
general... and even called them CUTE!  If you want to get into name calling
and that is what you seem best at...  I have had my fill of the name calling
you give Reagan alone... You are in fact very Hypocritical and Self
Righteous...   And I do not work on "Found On Road Dead" cars or trucks!
Besides, from my past experiance of you, you would want a handout for a
repair... Paying any money for honest work would be the last thing on your
mind.
        Where was My name calling of Ann?  Or were you STILL refering to
what I think of the Democratic Baby Killers Platform...(your party)?  I do
not wish to use that word again on this SIG... And was only trying to
discorage that with the post you jumped on me about...but the name I called
them still stands. 
        Paul, Next to Rod, you are the most hatefull person I know!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 54565
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:17:22

Don't worry Cliff - he'll grow out of it.

Message: 54566
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff "Ford"
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 13:06:04

It may be found on the road dead but it is usually first on race day...
Atleast we don't have any chrysler products!!
 
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Message: 54567
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last...
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 13:12:14

        I can honestly say I NEVER lost to a FORD on a money run!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

P.S.  By the way, if there were no Dodge or Plymouth cars, Ford would be my
next choice!

Message: 54568
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oudin
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:03:00

Sigh.

Message: 54569
Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/Ford
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 17:38:22

Cliff,
 
   I'm with you....if there were no Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge.....Chevy,
Buick, Pontiac, or Honda Civics.....a Ford car would be my next choice.
                         
 
(LL)oyd  Pulley

Message: 54570
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: U.S. Propaganda
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 18:06:16

  Let me give one more example of the powerful propaganda
system at work in the U.S. - the congressional vote on contra
aid in March 1986.  For the three months prior to the vote,
the administration was heating up the political atmosphere,
trying to reverse the congressional restrictions on aid to 
the terrorist army that's attacking Nicaragua.
  I was interested in how the media was going to respond to
the administration campaign for the contras.  So I studied
two national newspapers, the *Washington Post* and the *New
York Times*.  In January, February, and March, I went through
every one of their editorials, opinion pieces, and the 
columns written by their own columnists.  There were 85
pieces.  Of these, all were anti-Sandinista.  On that issue,
no discussion was tolerable.
  There are two striking facts about the Sandinista 
government, as compared with our allies in Central America -
Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador.  One is that the
Sandinista government doesn't slaughter its population.
That's a well-recognized fact.  Second, Nicaragua is the only
one of those countries in which the government has tried to
direct social services to the poor.  This too is not a matter
of debate; it is conceded on all sides to be true.
  On the other hand, our allies Guatemala and El Salvador
are among the world's worst terrorist states.  So far in the

Message: 54571
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: U.S. Propaganda
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 18:14:37

1980s they have slaughtered over 150,000 of their own
citizens, with U.S. support.  These nations do little for
their populations except torture, terrorize, and kill them.
  Honduras is a little different.  In Honduras there's a
government of the rich that robs the poor.  It doesn't kill
on the scale of El Salvador or Gualtemala, but a large part
of the population is starving to death.
  So in examining the 85 articles, I also looked for those
two facts about Nicaragua.  The fact that the Sandinistas 
are radically different from our Central American allies in
that they don't slaughter their population was not mentioned
once.  That they have carried out social reforms for the 
poor was referred to in two phrases, both buried.  Two 
phrases in 85 columns on one crucial issue, zero phrases in
85 columns on another.
  That's really remarkable control over thought on a highly
debated issue.  After that I went through all the editorials
on El Salvador and Nicaragua in the *New York Times* from
1980 to the present; it's essentially the same story.

Message: 54572
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 22:50:26

I think the Miskito Indians would take issue with the claim that the
Sandinistas don't slaughter their population.

Message: 54573
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/vote
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 23:26:57

        If there are three or more parties, each should have the same
benefits, each should be allowed in the debate.  If one or more looks silly
and is ridiculed then we can just ignore them.  One has to go out of their
way in order to find out about other parties and this isn't fair.  
        I still think the 'machine' controls both Demo and Rep. parties and
won't allow equal time (or even a little time) to the others.
        Well, that was 2 cents worth.
                                Rod

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 1:                 I depend on an automobile for my living as I do quite a bit
 2:of driving and I have a mobile service.  I service the auto industry and 
 3:many of my friends are car lot owners.  I have been doing this for the past 
 4:12 years.
 5:        According to the dealers the Chrysler 225, slant six engine is the 
 6:most durable engine in current use for the nation.  The most durable 
 7:internation engine is the Volvo.  In 12 years of using the slant six, I have
 8:had one engine break down, ONE.  I did have a Ford Van for a little under a 
 9:year and I had a hard time keeping it running.  Perhaps that particular one 
10:was a lemon, I don't know.
11:end

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Message: 54576
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/3rd Party
Date: 10/11/88  Time: 00:01:44

If someone truly wants to learn about a third party, it's not all that hard
to go out and find out about it. I guess that exposes the apathy that runs
rampant in our country, though. Which is learned from childhood. Which
brings us back to your original comment. What a horrible circle it is, too.

Message: 54577
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/Lumping Demos
Date: 10/11/88  Time: 00:06:25

I resent your lumping all Democrats into the same mold. I for one, am a
Democrat, and I oppose abortion. Furthermore, I hate being mass-categorized
as a "baby-killer Democrat." Many of the Ku Klux Klan consider themselves
Republican in their political philosophies, but you don't see me tagging you
a "racist Republican." Just putting in my two cents. I'll continue to bug
off now.

Message: 54578
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Engines
Date: 10/11/88  Time: 00:28:01

I would have to say that the most popular by production # would be the Chevy
small block 305 and 350's thereby making them the least expensive to keep
running.  I myself have a 250 L-6 in my 81 GMC 1/2t P/U that I have had not
one problem with...  Then again I maintain it like clock work.  It is an 85
model 250 that had 22,000 miles on it when I put it in, it also has 7 main
bearings instead of 5 like the 225 Chrysler engine.  I have Bosch platinum
plugs in it along with an Accel HEI Super coil for about 50,000 volts of
spark.  It has a 2bbl progressive Rochester carburator(sp).  I have 273:1
gear ratio in the rear for a 21 mph (avg.) highway and about 13 mph (avg.)
in town which is bad.  When I get the money I am going to put in 3.08:1 or
3.42:1.  I had the transmission rebuilt with a shift kit and torque
converter, it is bullet proof.  The truck is better than new.  It has a
completely new front end, tie rod ends inner, outer, pitman and idler arms,
upper and lower bushings and lower control arms.  Rebuilt P/S gearbox, new
heater core, gas shocks all the way around, brakes, master cylinder among
alot of other things.  Another words it oughta get me another 100,000 miles
without anymore MAJOR problems.  The straight and slant 6 engines are the
best out of the L-4's and V-6 and 8's becuse they are ALOT easier to work
on, they have more torque at a very much lower RPM (due to the LONG stroke)
and generally speaking they run cooler.  I love my truck!
 
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                                   6 October, 1988

Congressman Jon Kyl
313 Cannon House Office Bldg.
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Congressman Kyl:

     In your message on drug abuse, I hope you are including 
alcohol as it is the number one killer, far ahead of all other 
dangerous substances.  I have a copy of a report, presented by 
you, concerning our national drug problem.  After careful reading 
I have concluded that you will not receive my vote in the upcoming 
elections.

     This nations drug abuse problem will not be solved by methods 
you propose.  You could build a prison on every block in the 
country, make every other person an officer of the law and still 
not get anywhere except to financially and morally ruin us.  Many 
soldiers, policemen and politicians are drug abusers.  What then, 
will only the affluent be able to afford illegal drugs?

     You do not take a diseased person and lock them in a cell as a 
cure.  You find the cause of the disease and attack it on a 
logical level.  People abuse drugs because they have stresses that 
cannot be dealt with by ordinary means.  The have-nots are the 
biggest users.  They are the people who are living from hand-to-
mouth, the people who find they cannot live in a society which 
values paper dollars over most everything else.  Our world is 
really out of hand when you consider that the money required to 
provide adequate food, water, education, health and housing for 
everyone in the world was estimated at 17 billion dollars a 
year.....or about as much as the world spends on arms every two 
weeks.  

     Mankind has not yet shown enough intelligence, as a whole, to 
be considered a good race of animals.  We need more practice.

     Drug abuse is one thing but drug use is something else 
entirely.  Humans have been using substances to relax or enhance 
their outlook from our beginning.  When a substance is illegal it 
is often desired more by an unhappy population.  If the 
establishment says, don't do it, it will be done anyway.  As with 
prohibition, many people stopped their thrill drinking when 
alcohol became legal again.  I do not drink now but I did at one 
time and that was when it was illegal.  I used to get drunk as a 
juvenile and do stupid things as it was a thrill, a way of 
rebelling against the authorities who had left us such a sorry 
world.  When I turned 21, I then knew I was allowed but I no 
longer wanted to.  I am certainly NOT a singular incident.  Quite 
a few of our population feel they are being taken advantage of by 
their officials or to put it another way, and it is not 
necessarily how I feel, but many feel they are working class 
slaves.  They feel this way because they are poor, have little or 
no hope of ever having anything worth while and to them life is a 
gigantic economic struggle.  To them, buying a house or a new car 
is a joke.  Everyone wants to take what little money they have, 
they must protect themselves with deadbolts and weapons in order 
to just survive.  Many of these people are your 'crack' smokers 
and heroin abusers.  It is their only thrill in this life, save 
for sex.

      Many of them have members of their family in prison for 
being involved with illegal drugs.  This makes that segment rebel 
even more and understandably so.  I don't know if you have ever 
smoked marijuana but I have.  It is a very mellow substance that 
has the properties of relaxation, not making one want to kill and 
rob.  I personally know fellow work mates who have started using 
cocaine simply because they could not find  pot.  People, all 
people use some substance or other to relax, be it alcohol, 
prescription pills, cigarettes, or some of dad's after shave.  You 
can never take that away.

     I am for the legalization of all drugs although I do have 
reservations about some of the harder substances like heroin or 
opium.  I think it is the right of the people to decide what they 
put in themselves and not the right of the state.  I say this with 
some prior knowledge, as Holland, for the past 10 years, has had 
legalized drugs and I might add with very good results.

     The billions of U.S. dollars being spent on control could be 
put to much better use by solving the cause of the problem.  The 
billions of U. S. dollars going to foreign nations would, for the 
most part, remain in this nation in the hands of the people.  We 
give Mexico enough of our money every year to purchase the land 
that President Jackson took from them by an act of war.  Combine 
that with what we give South America, we could lose our American 
Democracy in the coming years over this.

     I will wait to hear your answer before going ahead with a 
plan to actively campaign against you or anyone with such a stance 
that usurps the rights of the citizens of this country.

     In a parting thought, it seems to me that those who oppose 
the legalization of drugs the most may just be profiting the most 
from them. 

                                   Sincerely,



                                   Charles R. Williams
                                   2702 N. Dayton Street
                                   Phoenix, Arizona 85006


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Message: 375
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Sandy/SUCK
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 18:44:16

Come over some time, Sandy, and I'll give you free sample.

Message: 376
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Hawley Crock Smith
Subject: Last
Date: 10/09/88  Time: 22:57:49

I doubt she'd want to rendezvous with you in the Phantom Zone.

Message: 377
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Dear Sandy
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 08:49:29

But I thought James had already castrated himself when he delivered the last
big THANG??? Who else could that have come off of? =*--Annie the ASSp--*=
P.S. When is the next story gonna start? It doesn't have to be a lewd one or
gorey! I just hope more people contribute to it - NOT 'one liners' either.
=*--Annie the ASSp--*=

Message: 378
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Christian Rod!
Subject: Adress
Date: 10/10/88  Time: 11:52:02

Wher do you live? Iwill bring lots of disks.
                      The Old Fart Ralph

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 1:        Look you old fart, if you had any intelligence, you'd know that I 
 2:currently live on Planet Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, USA, Arizona, Phoenix, 
 3:2702 N. Dayton St. or 1034 E. Windsor (both the same house).  Gee, I thought
 4:everyone knew that.  
 5:        My phone number has seven digits, they are between and including the
 6:numerals 1-0.  One number is 277-5058 and the other is 266-0747.  I am home 
 7:when I am here but when I am not here I am gone.  I have a voice pager and 
 8:its number is 270-2712.  It give you a 10 second space to insert your voice 
 9:message.  The best message I know of is to repeat your phone number twice.  
10:I will return your call.
11:        What kind of computer do you have?  I have an Atari ST and I use the
12:3.5 disks, double sided and if this is not compatable with yours then I will
13:give you a printout of same.
14:        Like I said, you are an old fart.  (How is the hell can you  be old 
15:if time doesn't exist?)
16:                                        Rod
17:end

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