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Message: 4331
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Travis SYSOP/CARS
Date: 09/26/88 Time: 22:26:31
I will!! I have a Boomerang. It is 4WD and I bet it blow the Tires off
your truck... Oh Yeah, It is STOCK!
Name the time and place!
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Message: 4332
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Travis/race
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 07:48:47
Yeah - I'll race you with my Corvette. My car will go from 0 to 50 miles per
hour in 6 seconds. How about yours? Bye =*--ANN--*=
Message: 4333
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 16:43:43
I already provided statistics disproving your father-in-law's speculation,
and you yourself said they were merely speculation and apparently not based
on any information at all, so you might as well just shut up.
Message: 4334
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Head
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 16:44:10
I had some line noise problems while entering that message.
Message: 4335
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann/Race
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 13:23:45
Mine will go from 0 to 50 in 3 seconds... THAT IS REAL MPH and *NOT* SCALE!
Plus, my car will pull more G's than yours.... HHHEEHEEE Wanna race for
pink slips?
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Message: 4336
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Chris/last
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 06:36:07
What's 'pink slips'? =*--ANN--*=
Message: 4337
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 09:19:19
Women wear them under dresses.
Message: 4338
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann/Pink Slips
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 15:34:12
Its a 60's term meaning title.... Another words, Whoever wins gets the
other persons car! (heheheee)
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Message: 4339
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Question?
Subject: Chris
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 19:16:08
How old did you say you were?
A 60's term, heh?
Message: 4340
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Pink Slips
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 22:32:39
Sorry, Chris. I think you misunderstand 'pink slip'. This is what one
find's on one's desk upon arriving at work on your _surprise!_ last day.
Message: 4341
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: pink slips!
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 15:05:15
I will not race for pink slips!
Message: 4342
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: SANDY SYSOP
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 21:39:16
19 on the 4th of October, Why?
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Message: 4343
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: B Dog
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 21:39:49
It also means 'Title to car'
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Message: 4344
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann/Pink Slips
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 21:40:38
I don't blame you!
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Message: 4345
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: I'll race
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 04:32:48
I'll race that little piece of junk for pinks, as long as the winner is
determined by maximum speed, not zero to fifty or sixty.
Message: 4346
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Nick/last
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 08:53:30
Whatsa matter fellah - your car has no 'get up and go'? Ta, ta. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 4347
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Paul/Rod
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 14:08:44
That was a cheap shot concerning Rod's kids, Paul. Most of them have NEVER
been arrested.
Message: 4348
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Nick/Pinks
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 17:35:27
Have you got a Pontiac or something like a Gutless Cierra?
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Only 3 days until my birthday...
Message: 4350
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: My B-day/What I want
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 17:47:08
I would like a remote control truck from Cliff...
I would like a New convertable Corvette from Ann...
I would like a little brother from Sandy...
I would like J.T. to be nice to everyone for a whole YEAR, from J.T.
I would like a NEW Blax - 80 10,000th caller shirt from Todd...
I would like a nice B-day card from Pat...
I would like my mail on time from Paul...
I would like a lock pick set from Rod...
I would like a record from Daryl...
Anyone not on the list can get whatever they want....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Just kidding folks!
Message: 4351
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last...
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 18:02:11
How about a day in the PHAntom Zone?
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Message: 4352
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last.........
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 20:51:42
Well, if I can't have the truck, I guess that would be o.k.!
HAHAAAA
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Message: 4353
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Question?
Subject: Phono Needles
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 23:09:15
I have a PE record player that is about 12 years old.... It has all the
neet features that some new ones today don't have... The problem is, now
that it is old the needle that rides on the album is so 'saggy' that it
alows the whole needle assembly to hit the album...OFTEN!.... What I need
to know is where do I get the little plastic piece that has the needle in it
that slides diagonally up into the part that has all the wires plugged into
the back of it.... I just pulled it out to fix it about an hour ago, so
all the stores are closed by now... Is this a common part or am I going to
have trouble finding it???
Thanx,
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Message: 1020
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 01:24:55
Make up your mind, woman .....
Are you going to doodle or write?
Message: 1021
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Sandy
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 06:22:09
Or do you mean diddle?
Message: 1022
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: But Sandy ...
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 07:52:25
The big sysop - you know, the one that's suppose to be running this show -
has not given his nod to our Kontest! If I start doodling or diddling
without asking him - he might not give us our prizes when we win! He will
give us prizes won't he? I'm still in a snit that I did not win that cute
computer clock that Mike won last year and am hoping to go for it again!
=*--ANN--*=
Message: 1023
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 14:29:37
I bet Cliff isn't even in town. I bet he's off on vacation somewhere. To
test this hypothesis I have devised an experiment. If Cliff reacts, he's
here. If not, he's gone.
CLIFF IS A PILE OF CRAP
Message: 1024
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 22:29:05
He's in town...
Message: 1025
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Zak/last
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 06:37:10
Yeah - he's in town and boy are you gonna get it!
Message: 1026
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last two
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 22:33:28
What makes you think that he was in town? You don't believe that he has a
phone?
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Message: 2051
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Answer !
Subject: last two
Date: 09/26/88 Time: 19:30:22
I thought I was on the ART SIG........sorry. Make that $10. for the
ART SIG. Gee, how confusing.
Message: 2052
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Up Yours
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 01:36:12
Your credibility is slipping!
Message: 2053
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Up Yours
Subject: Rod
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 06:25:09
Rod what have you been drinking, because you don't know where you are at?
Ralph
Message: 2054
Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
Subject: More Lawyers......
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 09:17:11
Did you hear that they've stopped doing medical experiments with rats?
They're using lawyers insted.......
1) There are more lawyers than rats.
2) People get attached to rats.
3) There's just some things that a rat won't do!
(LL)oyd Pulley
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1: Yeah, I know. I am on some filthy little planet with a bunch of
2:dirtballs. How'd I get here? My dad an mom got horny.
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Message: 1561
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Yawn...
Subject: Am I it?
Date: 09/21/88 Time: 23:20:59
Is everybody else always asleep at this hour? I was up doing homework for
French class and avoiding everything else I need to be doing. Tomorrow will
be another long, busy day.
Message: 1562
Author: $ Dean McCarron
Category: Yawn...
Subject: . . .
Date: 09/24/88 Time: 23:01:53
Alright about the french already!
Although I could do with a kiss. . . Well, at least I have a
house. In a few days.
Dean
Message: 1563
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Yawn...
Subject: Last?
Date: 09/25/88 Time: 02:57:31
I also have a house... Having a Kiss is better however... Or
should I say having someone to Kiss is better. Hmmmmm
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Message: 1564
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Yawn...
Subject: Not French!
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 00:20:20
Tonight I was avoiding doing French homework by talking about (and bettering
my) Esperanto.
Message: 1565
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod Williams
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 00:21:52
Get a job.
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Message: 54317
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Stealth
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 00:16:18
Yes, I recently heard something, but don't remember/didn't hear specifics. I
believe that lawsuits have been filed.
Message: 54318
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: stealth disease
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 05:29:36
Apparently, it's due to hazardous chemicals that the plant workers are
using. Because of the sensitive nature of the project, they are not allowed
to disclose the names of the chemicals they are working with.
Message: 54319
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT/Horsefeathers!
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 07:24:40
Bush is the change of what? - from boring to hum drum? From moralist to
fanatic? A change of socks is more exciting! =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54320
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT/Cliff/penalty
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 07:44:32
I hate the death penality and I hate abortion, but they are two different
issues. I have already, no too long ago stated my thoughts on abortion and
do not want to start that up again. It is not a subject that seems to be
discussed rationally.
Re: the death penality - Cliff - what you said does not have to be. I do not
believe that a person that commits murder of the first degree ought to sit
in prison and watch color TV and play pool! He/she ought to spend their
entire life mostly in solitude and work - with no hope of parole! The joke
we have for a law and the death penalty needs to be changed. Just a small
handful of murderers go to their deaths and the tax payers are keeping the
rest. So what good does it do to have the death penalty if that's the way
it's going to be? Also - this nonsense about cop killers and drug related
killings getting the death penalty is stupid. Why is one murder worse than
another?
But the bottom line - I don't believe that we, as a state or nation have a
right to put anyone to death! I don't believe that the person that pulls the
switch - or drops the pellets - or gives the injection should be put in that
position because it's their job! Yes - the murders have to be taken out of
society - but they do not have to be put to death. I feel no one has a right
to do it - judge on another's life. It puts them in the same category as the
murderer! =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54321
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Benson today
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 08:01:42
I thought his cartoon this morning was perfect. It showed Bush and Ducaca
walking out of a boxing ring - both claiming victory with their hands raised
above their heads and silly grins on their face and the referee was laying
on the mat knocked out and beat up - on his T-shirt it said 'Voters'!
Message: 54322
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Death Penalty
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 11:18:29
If the Death Penalty was used MORE than it is today, I bet there
would be less major crime. I do not see how getting sent to prison is such
a big deterrent.
Example:
I am a small time criminal... I hold up a person at gun-point and
take all his money. Now, if I let him go he MAY be able to identify me. By
letting him go I am MORE likely going to be apprehended, but at least I
won't be put to death.
Now in Ann's law:
I am a small time criminal... I hold up a person at gun-point and
take all his money. Now, if I let him go he MAY be able to identify me. So,
I blow the sucker away, because I am less likely to be caught and identified
and if I am, I will not be put to death...thanks to the bleeding heart
Liberals!
End result...since I hold up a person once a week for drug money, I
will have killed many people before I am caught... and now that I am caught,
so what... kill one or twenty... I will be alive and taken care of, free
medical etc....
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54323
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oudin the muddlehead
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 16:41:00
Regarding the election: As I said before, we are choosing a leader, not a
sex object. That you are disillusioned with the candidates because they
fail to "excite" you testifies only to your own vapidity. My only
complaint about the candidates is that both their campaigns seem to operate
under the premise that the American people are stupid and respond to
simplistic formulations rather than consistent principles. They are trying
to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and they cannot even do that,
for you, Ann, are the lowest common denominator and even you are
unimpressed.
Regarding the death penalty and abortion: Your stand on the death penalty
is overly simplistic at best. Surely you cannot claim that putting someone
to death as punishment for a crime of which he is convicted with due process
of law is the equivalent of summarily and brutally murdering an innocent
person. If this were the case, imprisoning a convicted criminal would be
the equivalent of kidnapping, yet you seem to approve of prison terms for
criminals and (I would hope) disapprove of kidnapping.
Your view on the death penalty also is inconsistent with your support for
abortion. If no one has a right to "judge on [sic] another's life," then
surely a woman does not have the right to kill her unborn child, unless it
can be established conclusively that that child is not yet a person (and it
assuredly has not been so demonstrated.)
Message: 54324
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Apro Poet
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 16:41:54
Does whatever it is you're plagiarizing mention that the Christic Institute
lawsuit was dismissed by the judge in the case, and that the Christic
Institute is now the subject of several lawsuits for malicious prosecution?
Message: 54325
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: Project Censored
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 17:37:33
Secret documents reveal danger of nuclear accidents
Last March 11, NBC broadcast a documentary called
"Nuclear Power: In France It Works," which could have passed
for a lengthy nuclear power commercial. Missing from
anchorman Tom Brokaw's introduction was the fact that NBC's
owner, General Electric, is America's second largest
nuclear power company and third largest producer of nuclear
weapons systems.
One month after the documentary, accidents occurred at two
French nuclear installations, injuring seven workers. *The
Christian Science Monitor* wrote of a "potentially explosive
debate" in France, with new polls showing a third of the
French public opposing nuclear power. That story was not
reported on NBC news. The NBC policy that produced the
pro-nuclear power documentary while censoring the news about
two nuclear accidents is typical of the international
silence about nuclear incidents, which bolsters the
industry's undeserved reputation for safety.
Nuclear safety did come under fire last year, however,
when the mainstream West German weekly *Der Spiegel*
published 48 of the more than 250 secret nuclear reactor
accident reports compiled by the International Atomic Energy
Agency. These previously secret documents were published in
English for the first time in *Earth Island Journal*.
Some of the underreported incidents: February 1983 -
Bulgaria's Kozluduj nuclear power plant lost pressure in the
primary cooling system; June 1983 - three of four pumps fail
in Argentina's Embalse nuclear plant; August 1984 - the
primary cooling system in West Germany's Bruno Leuschner
plant in Greifswald burst; January 1985 - at Pakistan's
Kanupp reactor, radioactive heavy water leaks while being
transferred through a rubber hose; April 1985 - radioactive
water and sludge swamp two rooms of an auxiliary building at
Belgium's Tihange reactor.
In several of these previously unreported nuclear slipups,
"a meltdown was a real possibility," noted *Der Spiegel*.
A survey of official records since the Three Mile Island
reactor meltdown in 1979 shows there have been more than
23,000 mishaps at U.S. reactors - and the number is
increasing. In 1986, there were more than 3,000 reported
incidents - up 24 percent since 1984. *Der Spiegel*'s
chilling conclusion: "Humanity has been sitting on a
powderkeg as a result of reliance on the 'peaceful' use of
the atom."
Message: 54327
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: censored stories
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 20:25:27
It's been nearly 10 years since the TMI incident (which was not, in the
technical sense of the term, a "meltdown"), and there have still been no
reports of any excess cancer deaths in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Which
leads me to believe that the statistics don't show any (because if they did,
you can bet the media would be creating a stir over it).
Message: 54328
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Question?
Subject: Death Penalty
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 01:19:17
This is aimed at JT mostly but if anyone else knows anything about it, have
at it!
Are there any statistics on record concerning the ratio of murders during
the period when the death penalty was in effect compared to today's
murder/ratio?
Of course population and all that would have to be taken into consideration,
but I think it would be an extremely interesting report, much like the
statistics concerning highway deaths at 65mph vs 55mph.
I think the death penalty WOULD be a great deterrent except the courts, no
doubt, would come up with less guilty verdicts than they do today (if that
is possible.)
Carol->
Message: 54329
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dukakatitis
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 01:24:24
ANN! WHERE are your values? Ha ha....I thought he was a class/one/dope!
The robot with the Mona Lisa mouth and the canned/talk. He was the
little one with all the poison-tipped darts spewing from his mouth! The
taller one was Bush!
I liked Bush more than ever after discovering he has a real sense of
humor...I also agree with most of his policies, except for dropping the
missle systems which have already been dropped...that was a real gaff, as
far as I'm concerned...but, then, he has been running around here and there
and could have missed some minor details like that while he was gone.
Anyways, isn't it neat to disagree?
Carol->
Message: 54330
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/the penality!
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 05:23:31
Since when is it being a 'Bleeding Heart Liberal' to want to put some one
away in prison for life with out parole? That doesn't sound like a 'nice'
way to spend one's life! Besides, as I pointed out - we have the death
penality now and it's hardly enforced.. Whats the point of having it then?
We are at the point of being more cruel than the murderers letting people
have trial after trial - waiting for years in prison and then putting them
to death. All this cost more than keeping him in prison for life. The death
penality never deterred anyone - ESPECIALLY drug users! I also fault your
examples because I don't believe even the hardest core criminals will just
murder for nothing. A few, yes, but hardly all.
If we are going to have the death penality - then lets do it no more than a
month after said person was found guilty and lets use the injection method
and not the electric chair, gas chamber or hanging. These methods must have
been designed by satan himself. I would still not agree with it - but it
beats the heck out of what we have now. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54331
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT the Mouth!
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 05:39:17
Man, I'm really BAD to want one of the candidates to excite me - to excite
and stir the hope in me that this country will be better under their term!
How awful of me to want a president that I have faith in and feel secure
because he is at the helm! God forbid that I should want one that I will
love and respect! I should get twenty lashes for not being able to see the
value in those two - one has a plastic, moralistic smile and the other looks
to be ready to fall asleep! How terriable of me not to see how precise they
are on their platforms and to know just how they are going to make this
country better by being in the oval office. One stammers and the other
mouths words like Howdy Doody, so it's hard to hear what they have to say.
When one of them are finally choosen, this country will have broke it's
record of voting for the lesser of two evils! =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54332
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jt/abortion
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 05:59:09
This whole abortion thing is ridiculious! Bush says he won't punish the
women that do it but will punish the people that preform them! That's like
saying 'lets get the prostitute but don't punish the John'! Lets have an
example here - They make abortion illegal - a woman get preg. and she
doesn't want it. If she has money, she will get one regardless of the law!
Where does she go then? She would have choices of finding a person that
would do it in some sleezy joint, both looking over their shoulder for the
law - or she could go to Mexico to some sleezy joint - or could do it
herself and risk killing herself! If she's poor, then forget the above
because she'll just have to have it and it will probably be thrown in a
dumpster after it is born or be raised as an unwanted child, probably with
several unwanted brothers and sisters.
You seem to not be able to understand that women have been doing this for
centuries and will continue to do so. That fact cannot be denied! I think
this is up to the women and not the men for one thing. A man could never
understand having to go through a pregnancy they don't want. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54333
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: Death Penalty
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 07:00:29
Line them all up in front of a brick wall and shoot them!!!!!!
The Old Fart Ralph
Message: 54334
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Ann...
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 09:39:12
Now you are being SILLY... of course harsh and stern punishments
and the threat of them have prevented crime. This has been proven.
But here in this country we have so many bleeding heart librals crying foul
that is slows down the process. I mean you have people like Dakakass that
even release them out into public life, and you say you can't see any
diffearance between him and Bush. Not only does Dakakass want to release
all the criminal population, he also wants to UN-ARM American citizens so we
can't defend ourselves.
For my morals, there is no other choice but BUSH!
The only people voting for the other guy, will be the bleeding heart librals
and people who hate Republicans so much, they are BLIND to the real facts.
What category do you fall in Ann?
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Message: 54336
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 16:49:11
I'll take them off your hands if you'll pay to have them shipped to
Washington.
Message: 54337
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 16:53:00
On the election: Sure, it is difficult to imagine things being appreciably
better under either Dukakis or Bush than they are now. Of course, things
are quite good now, and it is difficult to imagine that any candidate for
President could be much better than Reagan. However, under a Bush
administration things would certainly not get much worse on the whole,
whereas under a Dukakis administration this country would come close to
collapse. So it is hardly legitimate to act as if both candidates are just
awful, merely because neither is as good as what we have now.
On abortion: I agree, Bush's stand on the subject is flawed. Certainly
there should be criminal penalties for women who have abortions; one might
argue that a women who procures an abortion is not actually carrying out the
killing herself and thus is not guilty of homicide, but she is at least
guilty of conspiracy. Bush's stand makes political sense, but it makes no
intellectual sense. On the other hand, it would be a step in the right
direction. As for your other arguments, they make even less sense than
Bush's position. Women have been having abortions for centuries -- so what?
Men have been raping women for centuries as well, but that is no argument
for legalizing rape. Women might procure illegal abortions -- so what?
It is illegal to hire a hit man to kill your enemies, yet people do it, but
that is no argument for legalizing murder-for-hire. By far the silliest
argument, though, is that only women are qualified to hold an opinion on the
subject, because men cannot understand what it's like to be pregnant. If
this is true, then only men can have an opinion about rape, because only
men can understand what it's like to rape a woman. This is not to discount
the fact that women who have been pregnant have an insight into the subject
that men and women who have never been pregnant lack. But I base my opinion
on abortion in large part on the fact that mothers (including my own) have
told me that when they are pregnant, they feel they do indeed have a
separate person inside their bodies.
You still have not reconciled your pro-abortion stance with your statement
that no one has a right to "judge on [sic] another's life."
Message: 54339
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: Project Censored
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 17:52:04
The government's mania for secrecy
President Ronald Reagan nicknamed 1987 "The Year of the
Reader," but throughout 1987 the Reagan administration
outdid itself in its efforts to control, interpret,
manipulate, disinform, and censor all forms of information.
Typical of the Reagan administration's efforts to control
its own destiny and the nation's history was the Justice
Department memorandum that could enable Reagan to control
the history of his involvement in the Iran-contra scandal.
The administration is seeking to overturn a 1986 federal
court ruling that limited Nixon's right to block the release
of his White House papers. The Justice Department
memorandum, filed in a lawsuit, would allow Nixon to
withdraw any documentation he thought should be suppressed.
In effect, this would put Nixon in control of U.S. history
between 1968 and 1974. If Nixon wins, it will pave the way
for Reagan to determine official U.S. history from 1980 to
1988.
While alarming, this is only one small example of Reagan's
mania for secrecy. Following are the reports of three groups
that tried to warn us about what was happening.
- *People for the American Way*. This group's report
provided more than 100 pages of well-documented charges
concerning the growing trend toward secrecy in government
and its threat to American democracy. It "tells the story
of the institutionalization of secrecy throughout the
federal government ... the story of unprecedented controls
on information, not only on defense and foreign policy
issues where legitimate secrets do need to be protected, but
on a host of topics vital to our daily lives, from toxic
wastes to occupational hazards, from new technology to the
health of our children."
- *The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press*. This
group issued an alert about how the Reagan administration
and its supporters restrict public access to government
information. The 50-page report lists 135 specific actions
that have occurred since 1981, including threatened
prosecution of the press for publishing classified
information; expulsion of foreign journalists; proposed
amendments to weaken the Freedom of Information Act; and the
use of lie detectors.
- *The American Library Association*. The latest edition of
the association's annual report on censorship provides a
damning indictment of Reagan administration efforts to
"restrict and privatize government information" such as
public documents and statistics. The 1987 report adds 78
items to the case for Reagan's secrecy mania.
Message: 54341
Author: Spookie Wall
Category: Bulletins
Subject: CRYSTAL BALL BBS
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 20:55:02
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Message: 54342
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 54338
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 21:18:45
Basing an opinion about abortion on what mothers *feel* is the case is a
pretty lame basis. People *feel* a lot of things are the case that are not.
I believe that this is one of them.
Message: 54343
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Tucson
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 21:19:28
Anybody know any numbers for Tucson BBSes?
Anybody over 21 want a ticket to the fIREHOSE show in Tucson tomorrow night
($6)?
Message: 54344
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Politics
Subject: Get this...
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 22:25:40
I had a phone conversation with a (person) who wants to get ahold of
another party (requires certain info) because this (person) thinks
very seriously that the country is in dire straits.
Why?
Because this (person) is convinced [ interjecting credibility profile ]
that * WHEN * BUSH gets elected, he will be assasinated , leaving
QUAIL (heh heh) as president. Well, said (person) strongly believes
[almost frantic] that this would leave the United States wide open for
take-over in the long run [ couple years ] and in the short run a serious
break-down in government. This (person) wants me to help "SAVE THE COUNTRY"
by supplying said info.
Not that I'm against wealthy people being a little eccentric, but this
one takes the cake, the tin it was baked in and the oven.
...and I could have sworn California was still 360 miles from here...
Message: 54345
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 01:19:24
California is NOT 360 miles away.
Message: 54346
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Politics
Subject: a chance meeting
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 05:20:07
Driving home yesterday I saw a man stsnding on W. Olive Ave. at 43rd Ave.
He was holding a large, hand-printed sign that let anyone driving by know
that he would work for food.
This is one of the many whom Ronald Reagan and Co. refuse to admit exists
in his oh so perfect and strong eonomy.
This is what 8 years of Reaganomics has brought us to.
I don't think the country can stand 4 more years of the same.
While I don't think too much of Dukakis, I think I will cast a vote against
George Bush.
Message: 54347
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT/last
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 06:34:55
Why is it that a Republican has been in office for the last eight years and
all that Bush says he's going to do has not came about already? Do you think
he has the power Reagan has? Why hasn't the death penality been enforced?
Why is abortion legal? You could be right about this country going down hill
if Ducaca is elected - but that has happened before with both the
republicans and the democrates - yet this country has flourished under
both also!
RE: the death penality and abortion - I'll just repeat what I said before -
"I don't believe a fetus is a human until it's born and has a chance to stay
alive - and I believe that to enforce the death penality is taking someone's
life!" The abortion issue needs changing from what it is now. A fetus should
not be aborted at a stage where it can live at all or has a chance of
surviving!
Your example of women having the only choice vs men raping women etc. is
ridicious to say the least and have nothing to do with each other.
=*--ANN--*=
Message: 54348
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/my category
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 07:38:10
Which category do I fall in? None of the ones you mentioned. I do not hate
the republicans nor am I a bleeding heart liberal! I simply love life and
feel no one has a right to take another's! Even though I am for legal
abortion does not mean I would do it myself! I feel it is something one must
choose for themselves. Since that is a special issue - I can see no clear
cut answer to it. I can see where the 'Right to Lifer's' are coming from,
but I also can see where the people that uphold abortion are coming from
too. If it is recinded, then half the population of women will be criminals
because they will continue to do it. These are facts Cliff. What do you
purpose we do about it? Just make it illegal and punish the women?
=*--ANN--*=
Message: 54349
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Death
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 09:36:06
Shoot them down like wild dogs. Put them in front a brick wall and
Bang,BANG.
The Old Fart Ralph
Message: 54350
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Poor Paul Savage
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 10:46:07
You are so easy to dupe! The "Will Work for Food" has been proven
in most part to be a SCAM! And there have been BUMS on the streets for
years and years... way before Reagan and even before Carter.
Did you know that the lower educated people generaly will vote
Democratic... Because they believe the Democratic controlled government can
pull all this FREE money out of their hats.
If you Vote for Dakakass Paul, Then I am assuming you are for the
unarming of American citizens, for higher taxes for all, for free handouts
to anyone to lazy to work, and for paid by taxes baby killing!
Ann, Some times abortions are needed.... but in todays world you do
not need a reason, just "PLAY" around, get pregnant, and have it swept away.
Why, no morals.... no education. What happened to good old values?
Where did you get the FACTs that one half the women of America get
abortions? I hardly think so. But if it endangers their health, or it was
a forced RAPE... then it should be done, but right away, and not when the
baby is almost due.
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54351
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Politics
Subject: PRESIDENT PT.1
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 11:50:12
After eight years of having the hybrid Grandpa/Newscaster telling us
everything is o.k., even when it wasn't - the question is "to whom can we
turn for our security now?"
Ann complained that both candidates are boring, neither has vision.
Does America want vision? I don't think a Bruce Babbitt, or a Pete DuPont,
two men with very concrete ideas of what America needs, could be elected.
America is scared. America doesn't want to take chances. Why else did the
two blandest, least outspoken, most palatable candidates emerge as the
"winners"?
How long can this streak of good luck continue? While economically I
think we're better off, its already apparent we are slipping in social
matters. The laughable "war" on drugs (lipservice to drugs would be a
better term), and growing number of homeless are examples. And there aren't
any easy answers - more money in either case isn't going to make the problem
go away. Both candidates seem to have easy answers - it plays better on TV,
I guess - but when it all hits the fan, I don't exactly feel safe having
either candidate there to pick up the pieces.
It's too bad we seem to be a "quick fix" nation these days. And maybe
our shallow candidates are a symptom of this, I don't know. But, when they
would rather debate each others' war record and/or membership in various
organizations, rather than what is good for America.... Something is wrong.
I really wonder if I'll be better off in four years... especially if there
is a major political/social/economic crisis in the interim - what with the
way both candidates are already sidestepping minor personal & political
flareups, I'd hate to think of the damage to be done (by nothing being done)
if something major does come along....
The only good thing I see coming out of this election, regardless of
who wins, is maybe... just MAYBE Americans will get fed up enough to demand
some major changes, maybe the people will demand some action be taken - or
else they'll take action themselves.... Otherwise, I only see things getting
worse in the next four years, and beyond.
(that's my two cents worth...)
Message: 54353
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: last/change
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 14:02:37
Yes, I want change...let's get rid of the IRS and Federal Reserve.
Let's go back to the original Constitution. Let's get rid of ALL these
welfare programs...if the bums don't want to work, let them die!
But is the above practical with out 100% support... Nope!
Hence, we have Bush, and Dekakass Neither of them perfect, but going back
to Jimmy Carter progams and heavy welfare ideals of the Democratic Party is
not the way to go for sure. They are the ones that got us into this $#(K!NG
mess to begin with, there are no QUICK fixes. The Democratic ideals have
created and made it acceptable to be lazy and dependant on governmental
handouts. The only QUICK fix would be to destroy the cancer by cutting them
out of society. (As Ralph said "Line them up against a wall and shoot the
bastards") Looks like "QUICK" fix is out, or is it?
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54354
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: For sale
Subject: Lathe
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 14:06:37
Small hobby Lathe.. Belt drive... $35.00
No Motor!
Call 843-3346 ask for SYSOP Cliff.
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
The price is FIRM, Democrats looking for free handouts need not call.... ha
ha ha
Message: 54355
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Question?
Subject: Lippard
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 16:44:51
You mean to suggest that maternal instincts are nothing more than irrational
fantasies to be disregarded when considering philosophical issues involving
motherhood?
Message: 54356
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Savage
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 16:50:24
Your argument is based on the faulty premise that the existence of a single
person in poverty implies that the society is not prosperous. Obviously,
this is not true: the bum you saw was an aberrtion from general trends (as
is clear if you study the economic statistics), and was probably "down and
out" because of his own failure rather than that of the Reagan
administration. I presume you did not bother to stop and talk with him and
find out why he is in such apparently dire straits; instead you were content
to exploit his unfortunate situation in order to reinforce yor own political
prejudices.
Message: 54357
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/abortion
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 17:00:14
Your position on abortion is still incoherent. A newborn infant is hardly
autonomous; he needs constant attention and cannot possibly live on his own
for several years. Yet he is not any less human than you or I, and we
recognize that it is wrong to kill him -- and included in this is an
affirmative obligation on the part of the parent or other adult who has
assumed reponsbility for him to provide for his basic needs. There is no
distinction that I can see between an unborn baby and a newborn one in this
respect.
My argument about rape apparently went over your head, so let me walk you
through it. You argued that men are not qualified to make moral judgments
about abortion because they can never be in a position to have an abortion.
One can only reach this conclusion if one accepts the axiom that
no one is qualified to make moral judgments about actions that he can never
be in a position to perform. But a woman can never be in a position to
commit rape, so if this axiom holds true, a woman is incapable of making
moral judgments about rape.
Your statement that if abortion is outlawed, "half the women" will be
criminals is absurd. Far fewer than 50 percent of women have abortions now,
and if it were outlawed, most women would be deterred from doing so: they
would either raise their children, put them up for adoption, or avoid
pregnancy in the first place.
Message: 54358
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Petrisko
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 17:04:00
There's no substitute for careful analysis.
Message: 54359
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Discovery
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 17:05:19
Well, you must be happy that you finally have some company!
Message: 54360
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 54346
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 17:19:30
The guy with the sign was probably a recent refugee from Massachusetts.
Message: 54361
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Taranto
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 17:25:04
I mean that maternal instincts are not compelling evidence for fetal
personhood. In light of the fact that there is a lot of scientific evidence
that suggests a baby in the early stages of development is not a person,
basing one's opinion that abortion is murder solely or primarily on the
maternal instincts is foolish.
Message: 54362
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: Project Censored
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 17:50:48
Biowarfare research conducted at U.S. universities
Overshadowed by Star Wars, the push toward developing
ghastly instruments of biological warfare has been one of
the Reagan administration's best-kept secrets. The research
budget for infectious diseases and toxins has increased
tenfold since fiscal 1981, and most of the 1986 budget of
$42 million went to 24 U.S. universities where the world's
most deadly organisms are being cultivated in campus labs.
The large sums of military money available for
biotechnology research is a powerful attraction for
scientists whose civilian funding resources have dried up.
Scientists who formerly researched diseases like cancer now
use their talents to develop strains of such rare pathogens
as anthrax, Rift Valley fever, Japanese encephalitis,
tularemia, shigella, botulin, and Q fever.
Many members of the academic community find the trend
alarming. However, when MIT's biology department voted to
refuse Pentagon funds for biotech research, the
administration forced it to reverse its decision by
threatening to cut off other funds. In 1987, when the
University of Washington hired retired Army Col. Philip
Sobocinsky to help professors attract Pentagon-funded
biowarfare research, a UW science writer was fired after
disclosing the details in the student newspaper.
Since the U.S. signed the 1972 Biological and Toxic
Weapons Convention, which bans "development, production,
stockpiling, and use of microbes or their poisonous products
except in amounts necessary for productive and peaceful
research," the university-based projects are called defense
efforts aimed at developing vaccines and protective gear.
Scientists who oppose the program insist that a germ-warfare
defense is clearly impractical; the entire population would
have to be vaccinated for every known harmful biological
agent. The only feasible application of a "defensive"
development is in conjunction with offensive use: Troops
could be effectively vaccinated for a single agent prior to
launching an attack with it.
Another issue receiving even less attention is the safety
or the security of the labs involved. Release of pathogens,
either by accident or design, would prove tragic.
Twenty-three U.S. schools, including the Universities of
California, Connecticut, Georgia, Massachusetts, Minnesota,
and Utah, are currently engaged in biowarfare research.
Message: 54364
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: WILL WORK FOR FOOD
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 21:38:43
Where has Mr. Savage been? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and think
he was on vacation (or is he always on vacation?) and must have missed the
rather large media coverage of "panhandling" taking place in the valley.
Message: 54365
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: For sale
Subject: store counter.....
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 21:48:22
Just a few hours left before I have to turn in my keys for the store
space. I still have the Sales Counter left that cost me a 1000.00 and the
phone system (two phones and box by ITT) that cost me about 700.00.
And a burgler alarm system with to motion sensors... ((SOLD))
Any offers at all? fifty bucks even? Counter or Phone SYSTEM
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
P.S. My phone number is 843-3346
Message: 54366
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Politics
Subject: Cliff/abortion
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 22:31:31
Uhhh, I'm pretty sure that Dukakis is *not* for federally funded abortions.
He is not for abortion, but is for allowing the mother to decide for
herself.
Bush, on the other hand, seems to have fallen into the hands of the
right-wing moralists.
Message: 54367
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: all kindsa stuff
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 23:43:41
Ianuzzi ---> oh shutup already!
Lippard ---> oh shutup already!
Apro Poet ---> would you please quote the issue number and date of *Der
Spiegel*, so that I may verify your information, personally...
Paul Savage ---> the person holding the sign was making a political
statement; had you offered work for food, they would have undoubtedly turned
you down, but gladly accepted any "donation" you would be willing to give;
apparently at least part of this person's scam worked; you bought the
political message (or in this case, disinformation) hook, line, and sinker.
Anyone want to rent a townhouse, in the area of 48th St. & Broadway?
Rent is $485/mo., including water/garbage, but no utilities. Has
dishwasher, and inside the house washer/dryer hookups. Approx. 1000 sq.
feet. 2 bedroom, one bath, very nice kitchen (bigger than in my 1650 sq.
foot house). Call 276-4663 and leave message, or call me at work, 939-3580
or 242-9401 (ask for me by my full name).
Any takers?
Michael Kielsky
Message: 54368
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Apollo
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 23:44:00
How come you closed the store?
Message: 54370
Author: Joe McAdams
Category: Politics
Subject: Dukakis in 1970
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 23:54:22
Did you know that Michael Dukakis had introduced legislation in
Massachusetts in 1970 that would repeal all laws on the books there in 1970
that dealt with sodomy, abortion, blasphemy, and bestiality (you know, man
having sex with an animal)? In other words, he wanted to legalize not only
coveting your neighbor's wife, but also coveting your neighbor and your
neighbor's dog! Vote Bush. Keep Dukakis and his dogs in Baahs-ton.
Joe
(from Patrick Buchanan's column in Arizona's lame leftist morning daily,
*The Arizona Republic*, on Thursday 9/29)
Message: 54371
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: B-Dog
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 00:10:25
From what I understand Dukakis is for federally funded abortions for
the poor. This was also brought out in the Democratic convention.
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54372
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Petrisko
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 01:49:49
America and Americans have always been willing to take risks. The launch of
Discovery yesterday afternoon is a perfect example of what you believe
America lacks.
I had a chance to review the latest issue of Burning Toddlers, and I must
say, I find the overall disturbed and cynical tone of your publication
fascinating.
Message: 54373
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: A thing or three
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 05:26:01
1. Peter Petrisko, you grew up before my very eyes! Well written, and quite
reflective of the way I feel also.
2. Cliff, take your blinders off, for heaven's sake! You are so zeroed in
on a few narrow issues that you cannot see the forest for the trees in the
way! It is very doubtful that, if elected, Dukakis' ideas on such things as
gun control or abortion will become national law. It takes a lot more than
one man's opinion to change the direction of the country.
3. Toady Reese, I am not unaware of the poverty rampant in the country,
and also that it is not confined to the Phoenix area. Some of the "will work
for food" people are indeed running scams. On the other hand, many are in
real need of a way to feed their family, and can't do it on the "good jobs"
the REagan years have produced, minimum wage jobs, or part-time jobs that
are barely enough to keep people from qualifying for unemployment, but not
nearly enough to scrape by on. You can quote all the figures you want to,
and all they prove is how figures, polls and statistics can be twisted and
slanted to say anything the writer of them wants them to say.
Finally, how many saw the shuttle launch yesterday? I did, and it was a
real thrill. NASA has a satellite channel of their own, and I watched it a
good part of the morning, seeing the launch from every conceivable angle,
from cameras that were so close they got dirt on their lens from the
blastoff to the distant shots that were shown on network TV. It's good to
see America back in the space business again, no matter who's in office.
Message: 54374
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/abortion
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 07:23:11
I do agree with you that it should not be used for birth control. I also
believe it should not be done after the first month and a half.
Re: you saying we need to get back to our morals! That is becoming more
true, but not back to the old ones. We need a new set for this generation.
The Biblical moral standard would not go over anymore - generally that is!
Perhaps the one - "do unto other's" is the best. But if we do not go back to
some set of standards - AIDS will certainly make us think about it! We are
paying for our excesses no matter what they are. I do not think 'laws' force
people to change but education does. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54375
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter/your two posts
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 07:25:46
They were excellent! That, in my opinion is 'stright talk'! =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54376
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: All
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 08:01:38
The poor the hungrey, and the unwanted, Shoot them all.
Message: 54377
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Peter P.
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 08:54:30
Bravo! You should check in more often.
Message: 54378
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Discovery on TV
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 08:55:08
Paul, I've uploaded to the ibrary NASA's schedule of TV
broadcasts from Discovery. I think (because of time zones and launch
delays) you can simply deduct about 30-minutes from the CDT listed to find
when events will happen in actual MST.
The file is called DiscovTV.txt.
Message: 54379
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Paul?
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 10:06:58
You are a fool Paul.... First you tell me to take my blinders off,
and then proceed to tell me that one man "Dukakis" can not change anything.
Then you blame EVERYTHING that has happened that you do not like on one man,
Reagan. Now here we have Reagan in a Democratic Controlled Congess "this is
were you ALWAYS put on your blinders" and he has to fight polictical lines
to get anything done. Now you would have me believe that Dukakis and a
Democractic controlled Congress, would not be able to do as much?
Paul, have you read "Burnning Toddlers"?
I will tell you one thing, I will go on welfare if Dakakis gets in.
Why? Well, it is so easy to get on wellfare and his programs of giveaways
sound so good, why should I work? If he gets in, that will be the end of
this country as a great nation, it will be all down hill. But I do not
think the people are that STUPID! Note that Reagan pretty much won by a
landslide... You seem not to be able to acknowledge this by the way....
remember you were for Mondale... ha ha what a joke he was. Well, I hope
you see the LIGHT when Bush wins by a good margin.
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54380
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Discovery
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 11:08:19
Bill Burkett has uploaded a file DISCOVTV.TXT that can be found in
the ibrary (see Bill's post)
Also from "Crash" Carter is a file of Motorola.arc that has over
7000 items ... Transistors etc.
Mod 4 people, Carol has uploaded LANDER.BAS...a game
Todd's last visit to Classic Apollo can be seen in a file called
CLSSAPOL.ARC... (I may modify it later so people who do not have an IBM
type computer can also view it as well)
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54381
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Store counter
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 11:15:07
I'll give you $40 for the counter, if you'll throw in the microwave
too.
Message: 54382
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ralph Blehm
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 11:52:01
I don't suppose you and my dad know each other, do you?
Message: 54383
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Facts/Figures
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 11:52:56
Of course, Paul! We wouldn't want something like FACTS to have anything to
do with our decision for the next president, would we?
Message: 54384
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliffy
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 15:04:13
If Ducaca DOES happen to be elected - are you going to leave the country or
commit suicide? Or both? =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54385
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dukakis
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 17:04:44
The Democratic platform calls for "reproductive freedom" (a code word for
abortion on demand) "regardless of the ability to pay."
Message: 54386
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oudin/abortion
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 17:08:11
If your view is that abortions after the sixth week of pregnancy should be
prohibited, you are much closer to the pro-life than the pro-choice view.
Under Roe v. Wade, states are prohibited from enacting any restrictions on
abortion whatsoever during the first three months of pregnancy, and may
restrict abortions in the second trimester only for the sake of the mother's
safety. Only during the final three months of pregnancy are the states
allowed to take into account the well-being of the unborn baby. Dukakis and
most liberals want to preserve Roe v. Wade, and view disagreement with it as
dissent from the Constitution.
Message: 54387
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Savage
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 17:09:00
The Census Bureau, which is hardly a partisan organization, reports that
the poverty rate has been steadily declining for the last five years.
Message: 54388
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: Project Censored
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 19:28:11
Bush's oily role in Iran arms deal
Vice President George Bush's acknowledged support for the
secret arms shipments to Iran has been interpreted as
evidence of his loyalty to President Reagan's policies.
However, other evidence suggests that Bush - far more than
Reagan - promoted the Iran initiative, took part in key
negotiations, and conferred upon Oliver North the powers
necessary to carry it out.
Peter Dale Scott, co-author of *The Iran-Contra Connection*
and former senior fellow at the International Center for
Development Policy in Washington, suggests that Bush's
primary concern in early 1986 was to stabilize falling crude
oil prices by promoting a common price policy between the
United States and the oil producers of the Persian Gulf,
especially Iran and Saudi Arabia. Scott adds that
maintaining higher oil prices was an explicit goal of some
of Oliver North's secret arms negotiations with the Iranians.
The price of oil reflected the concerns of Bush, a former
Texas oilman, rather than those of Reagan, a free market
advocate.
Scott traces Bush's involvement back to the January 17,
1986, meeting of the president's national security advisors
at which the president signed the controversial finding
authorizing the arms sales. The meeting was attended only
by Bush and three other known supporters of the arms sales
initiative - Chief of Staff Donald Regan, National Security
Advisor John Poindexter, and Poindexter's deputy Donald
Fortier.
As the *Iran-Contra Select Committee Report* points out,
Secretary of State George Schultz and Secretary of Defense
Casper Weinberger were deliberately kept in the dark about
the trip North took with Robert McFarlane to Tehran three
months later. Bush not only knew of the trip, he helped
schedule it.
Bush took a trip of his own to Saudi Arabia where he
lobbied Saudi leaders to help stabilize oil prices, then
rapidly falling to less than $10 a barrel. His trip was
successful; Saudi Arabia's King Fahd received the Iranian
petroleum minister in the fall of 1986 and the two countries
agreed to push for OPEC arrangements for boosting oil prices
to $18 a barrel. That price brought economic relief to
oil-producing states like Texas, which were key to Bush's
political base.
Message: 54390
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Answer!
Subject: Kielsky #54367
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 20:00:33
The nuclear safety piece that mentioned *Der Spiegel* came
from *Utne Reader*, Sept./Oct. 1988. They don't mention
which issue of *Der Spiegel* originally disclosed the
information. They do mention that "these previously secret
documents were published in English for the first time in
*Earth Island Journal*." Their references cite the Summer
1987 issue of *EIJ*.
Message: 54391
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: War!
Subject: Paul ...
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 21:25:47
Somehow in all of this we seem to be missing something. Paul, ever since
I came back to this country I've started to see more and more people
whine, moan, bitch and generally wretch senselessly about what other
people are or are not doing. Everyone's got their nose stuck into the other
guys work to see if he's doing it the way he's supposed to. If the country
could collectively take one step back and get the nose out of the mud
and start going about WORKING at MAKING a living instead of saying
it's so-and-so's fault I strongly believe we'd all be better off.
I came here with no money with parents just as broke. I didn't go on welfare
or go out begging for a hand-out. In fact, I worked for FREE just to get
in the door! I didn't have much else than a defunct Aussie pilot's
license , a high school certificate and my future. I didn't give a holy
cat's $#!+ who was or wasn't in power at the time. I made it out of
the mud by directing my attention to WORKING . Administration or
no Administration.
My point;
Regardless of who is El Presidente, the Meta-Chingone (sp?) or El Hefe
of this country, it is the INDIVIDUALS *** RESPONSIBILITY *** to look
and care after themselves. If families would look after their own, people
pay attention to THEIR work we wouldn't have a fraction of the homeless,
the out of work or the druggies we have now. We have them because people
who think like you believe it's the GOVERNMENTS RESPONSIBILITY to look
after them with handouts, free medical, free jobs and a free lunch.
-Mike
Message: 54392
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Ann/Paul
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 22:21:10
Ann, If Dukakis gets in, I will shutdown my business (Machine Shop
and Computer Support) and go on the wonderfull welfare program that he is
offering... Why Work?
JT, Why would Paul believe FACTs from the Census Bureau? He listens
to his old cronie buddies from the Post Office, they KNOW everything!
Facts don't count... get real J.T.!
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54393
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Abortion
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 23:54:21
What does it matter what any of us thinks of abortion? Abortions are *in*
and they will continue and I would sure hate to see it back in the dark ages
again, illegal and performed in some dark, dirty office again.
To me, abortion is wholesale murder. I hate it with a mad passion, but then
I am past the choice/stage of that game.
While I am for Bush, he sure struggled with that one. I think he was trying
to say what he thought persons wanted him to say, and then forgot exactly
what it was he was to say...or something like that.
Carol->
Message: 54394
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Answer!
Subject: Todd
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 23:56:09
I am *sure* he is Uncle Ralphie!!!
You know, the one whose phonograph needle got stuck! and he yelled
"Shoot!" and you thought he meant it, so you did...but missed?
Don't miss next time....
Carol->
Message: 54395
Author: $ Carol Graham
Category: Question?
Subject: Russia
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 23:57:36
What in Marx's name is going on over there in the Poliburo?
Did anyone else notice the shakeup and the urgency with which it took place?
Carol->
To Russia with Love...........................
Message: 54396
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: Why, oh why???
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 04:56:16
Why do I feel like a rose amidst all these thorns?
Even Ralph Blehm is beginning to sound like Reagan!
Message: 54397
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 06:41:36
Heaven forbid!
Cliff, You can't go on welfare, You dont have the right Look.
Todd, If you'r Father is human and of the old school I know him.
Carol, I love you , but must disagree on some things.
Annie, go get them!
Shoot them all!!!!
Message: 54398
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Atari 520stfm
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 07:27:04
Effective immediately, ATARI will be shipping our all new 520STFM
double-sided product against all dealer orders.
The 520STFM double-sided disk drive will now give your customers
twice the storage capability at the same price of a 520STFM single-sided
product.
Make sure if you are buying, that you do not get the single-sided
drive..... or if you do, get a GREAT discount on it! The Regular suggested
retail price is $799.95. The Promo (current) price is $699.95 for a mono
system. The Color Regular price is $999.99 and the Promo color system is
only $849.95.
Promo ends December 24,1988.... Make sure Henry treats you RIGHT!
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54399
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike/your post
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 08:51:39
It was excellent! If everybody felt like that, the nation wouldn't be in the
spot it's in now. I think this welfare thing started when Roosevelt was in
office - it helped then and was needed - but it has gotten so far out of
hand, it doesn't resemble what the purpose of it was for.
My husband, being a contractor runs in to so many men that swear they will
work for any wage - even food. He has in the past, picked up men on the
street with signs stating "Will work for anything"! etc. etc. 99% of them
just want some quick cash to tide them over until they can get their welfare
checks or unemployment. OR they will not stay around very long after they
find out how hard of work it is. The norm - they work for a week, get their
checks and he never sees them again! These guys don't want to work period.
Most of them get fired before the week is up because they just sit around on
the job. They CAN make more off of welfare than what my husband pays a
laborer. ($5 per hour - and he pays the taxes!) They never stick around long
enough to learn the business and get a raise. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 54400
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: Project Censored
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 12:22:37
Biased coverage of the Arias peace plan
On August 7, 1987, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala,
Honduras, and Nicaragua signed a regional peace proposal
authored by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias. The Arias
Plan set specific guidelines and target dates for ceasefires
and demilitarization for each nation in order to stabilize
Central America.
Two separate studies monitoring U.S. press coverage of the
plan revealed a startling bias in how America's leading
newspapers covered the region following the proposal's
signing. The New York-based Fairness and Accuracy in
Reporting (FAIR) concluded that the peace accord set off a
U.S. media reaction that "showed once again the extent to
which White House assumptions are shared by the national
press corps" and how "Reagan's obsession with Nicaragua has
turned into a media obsession." FAIR's 90-day analysis of
the *New York Times* found that the newspaper devoted three
times a many column inches to Nicaragua as it did to
Honduras, Guatamala, and El Salvador combined.
The other study, by the San Francisco-based Media Alliance,
monitored stories about the peace plan that appeared in
seven major dailies - the *New York Times*, *L.A. Times*,
*Christian Science Monitor*, *San Jose Mercury News*,
*San Francisco Chronicle*, *San Francisco Examiner*, and the
*Oakland Tribune*. They too concluded that most newspapers
followed the Reagan administration's direction as to what
deserved coverage in Central America. The alliance analyzed
406 articles and editorials. Here are some of their
findings:
- While the seven newspapers published numerous articles
critical of the Sandinistas and their efforts to comply with
the plan, serious human rights violations by the governments
of El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatamala went largely
unreported.
- Sources quoted for comments and analysis were almost
always administration officials, contra leaders, or
representatives of other conservative organizations that
advocate military solutions to the region's political
conflicts.
- The newspaper editors, when contacted by the *San
Francisco Bay Guardian*, generally acknowledged that the
national press has allowed the Reagan administration to set
the tone for Central American news coverage.
Message: 54402
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: Answer!
Subject: read it an weap
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 13:25:59
Apro Poet: Your references are quite shaky. I have not been able
to locate the *Der Spiegel* article, which is the basis of some of your
posts. Sounds like made up news to me.
Concerning the election: If Dukakis does get into office, this country
will learn a lesson it will not shortly forget. At best, Democrats will
be hated and despised for decades. At worst, the character of this country
will change for the worse, with a loss of many individual rights.
Just my views.
Michael Kielsky
Message: 54403
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Kielsky
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 15:15:51
If Dukakis gets elected, it will prove that this country has a very short
memory. Remember Jimmy Carter?
Message: 54404
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Politics
Subject: Kielsky
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 17:09:12
No matter Dukakis or Bush, we will lose a lot of individual rights. Vote
Libertarian!
Message: 54405
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Libertarian
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 18:05:38
If the public voted Libertarian, we would lose a lot more then our
rights, we would lose our Country!
Vote Republican, and keep us STRONG!
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54406
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: Dog
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 18:45:01
Isn't it the Liberals who want to take away freedoms like the right to keep
and bear arms?
Message: 54407
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/Atari
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 18:46:14
Isn't that kind of like a computer dealer who unloads his Epson FX-80's on
unsuspecting customers when he knows the cheaper and more advanced Epson
RX-80 is coming out in a couple of weeks?
Message: 54408
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ralph
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 18:54:32
My dad says we should line up all the fags (his words) in the world and
shoot them all. By chance, would you feel the same way?
Message: 54409
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Shooting the fags
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 19:06:15
I have to admire your father's courage. Most people would be afraid of
getting AIDS, given all the infected blood that would be spilled.
Message: 54410
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Todd
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 19:26:26
The RX-80 was out before the FX-80 and the FX-80 was faster and had more
features.... Besides, Epson NEVER tell its dealers what is comming out till
it is out!
I have an FX-80 just like yours Todd, and I would never trade it for an RX.
The MX and RX wastes one sheet of paper in tractor mode. The FX does not!
The FX also has friction feed, the RX does not!
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54411
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Gemini Inc.
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 19:36:54
Well, I turned in the KEYS to the store today... The counter and
phone system was picked up by a clearing house in Scottsdale, now they are
twice the price....
Now guys, (and Gals) I am still in business, but I do not have a
greedy LandLord wanting all the profits plus 10%. I do Repairs and
hardware sales (no Pacman games). I do machine work..... I can set up
systems and trouble shoot your problems, in my shop or on your location.
Give me a call at 843-3346 if you have any questions or need help!
SMILE! (-:} *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 54412
Author: $ Chris Neal
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: J.T./Your last
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 20:54:20
Only you would think of something like that...
----------=============*******>CHRIS<*******=============------114/18.8
Message: 54413
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 10/01/88 Time: 23:58:09
Chill out, dude. I was just kidding.
Message: 54414
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Abortions
Date: 10/02/88 Time: 00:53:03
If we lived in an intelligent, fun world, I'd be against abortions
altogether, except in medical cases, of course. In we had an intelligent,
fun world, I don't believe abortions would be an issue or a problem.
Rod
Message: 54415
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: The Poor
Date: 10/02/88 Time: 01:03:11
I work among the people and I see their problems. Many, if not most
of you work among the upper middle class slaves and you probably pat each
other on the back, saying what a great place we have. You wear your suits
(what are they for, especially that damn tie?) and drive new vehicles which
are financed for 60 months, are buying homes which will be worn out before
the 30 years are up and it seems that neither one of us can see the others
points.
There is truth to what each side is saying because we are speaking
from our personal experiences. Like Ralphy sez.....shoot 'em all.
Rod
P.S. I don't know, I just happen to live here.
You chose Chit Chat
Subject:Libertarian
Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop
1: I was recently informed by my father-in-law that the Libertairan
2:Party came into being around the time of the Great Depression. He said that
3:many new parties were formed during those hard years although the
4:Libertairans were the strongest.
5: I think Americans should voice their dissatisfaction of our two
6:party system and * * * VOTE LIBERTARIAN * * *
7:
8: In Russia the people may have a choice of only one but it seems in
9:this land we only have a choice of two........change it.
10: Rod
11:end
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Message: 311
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: VO
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 00:09:19
I don't drink VO.
Message: 312
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Mighty SYSOPs
Subject: James/last
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 01:02:46
Yes, you do, James ..... Ann converted you.
Message: 313
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Story
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 01:23:19
Sandy was finally released from the Dullhead Mental Hospital when
she got her lines straight. She thought she had shot 2 times when in fact
she shot 3 times. After the confusion was over she was released and taken
home by her wonderful and Mighty Apollo Sysop.
Cliff and Sandy spent the rest of the night pondering the motives of
David B. They both were conviced that he was responsible for the gross
murders of the Apollo BBS $tatus users. Why them and not the Non-$tatus
users? Only time will tell.......
"How can we stop this maniac?" Cliff asks.
"I don't know, Cliff. I just do not know," replies Sandy gazing at
the wall. "My trusty 357 did not even phase him. All my years of training
are not helping us are they? ...... Oh, my ......"
Just then Sandy jumps out of bed and yells, "I've got it!"
"Got what?" inquires Cliff.
"I've got how to stop this evil corpse of a David."
Sandy begins to explain to Cliff how David was involved in economics
while he was alive. She realizes now the only way to have David's stay in
the grave permanent was to kill him with a credit card. A dangerous thing to
do indeed, but one that needs to be done. One thing holding Sandy back from
executing the plan immediately was that she did not own a credit card. Who,
she thinks to herself, will trust her enough to lend her their credit card?
Cliff interupted his wonderful wife. He advised her of the funeral
they must attened in a few hours. Sandy tried to sleep but could not, she
was ready to try her theory out .......
Message: 314
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Story
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 08:13:21
Finally, Sandy went to sleep, but Cliff lay there for hours looking at the
ceiling. He was so afraid for his Sandy and her theory of the credit card
and was wondering if he had gotten her out of Dullhead too soon? No doubt
she was ready for a nervous brake down. He hadn't questioned her at the
time, but wondered how she expected to kill a man already dead - with a
credit card? Did she plan on throwing it in the grave with him, hoping he'd
melt like the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz? Or did she plan to stuff it
in his mouth and hope to choke him to death?
"I must get her away from this city befores she cracks" he thought.
"Besides, now that I'm out of a job, I can't afford to put her back in
Dullhead for any length of time!
It was dawn before sleep finally claimed Cliff and when it did, he had awful
nightmares of gore, blood and the walking dead!
Message: 315
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Story
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 08:14:29
Rod Williams had been walking for hours. He was totally despondent over
the horrible death of his buddy Nick and he was trying to shake some of
the gloom off by walking. It was doing no good. He didn't even notice
that several young women had 'given him the eye' as they passed by. His
handsome good looks and the intelligence that showed through, always
commanded attention where ever he went! Coupled with the fact that he
was also wearing his second favorite T-shirt that had, in bold letters
written on the front that said "BABY ON BOARD". He had gotten it from
Jasmine, his dear wife and companion of all these many years. She felt
it belonged on him more than her because it was he that kept on making
the babies - not her!
Rod sighed and continued walking. After a while, he saw a Circle K
looming up in the distance and decided he was thirsty and wanted a
Coke, so he made his way towards it. Just before he opened the door, he
happened to glance at a poster hung in the window and his heart stopped
in his chest when he realized what it said. It read .......
____________________________________________________________________
l******************************************************************l
l WANTED POSTER l
l l
l HAVE YOU SEEN THIS WOMAN? l
l NAME: ___________________________ Was last seen at l
l Ann Oudin : @@ : her home on the l
l HEIGHT: : @ @@@@ @ : night of the 25th l
l 5' 8" tall. : @@ o o @@ : of Sept. carrying l
l Blues eyes. : @@@ \__/ @@@ : a huge red penis. l
l Blond hair. : @@@ ll @@@ : Her husband is l
l Reported to : ----\/---- : very worried over l
l be very : / / \ \ : her disappearence l
l beautiful. : / / /\ \ \ : as she belongs to l
l AGE: 53 : / / )( \ \ : the Apollo BBS l
l but reported : / /\_ /\ _/\ \ : and several murdersl
l to be much : \ \ \ / / / : have been linked tol
l younger looking:___________________________: that club. l
l l
l A REWARD has been offered by her husband of $10 to anyone knowingl
l of her whereabouts. l
l A COUNTER REWARD has also been made by her husband of $10,000 to l
l anyone that DOES find her and does NOT bring her back! Offer goodl
l for the month of October only.___________________________________l
He could not believe his eyes! His heart felt frozen in his chest.
"My God! Now the sweet, lovely, pure and sinless Ann is dead too! What
is life on Apollo going to be without her? The rest were bad enough,
especially Nick, but Ann? Why Ann? She hadn't done a thing to anybody".
Rod thought about the year before last on Apollo - how cruel David had
been to her - calling her names like 'silly' and 'idiotic'! Him and
James had their fun with her building up their egos at her expense!
But it had been no big thing - not big enough for him to do this to
her. "There's got to be another motive here! David wouldn't do this
thing over something like that -- or would he?"
While Rod thought on these things, another Apollo member sat in front
of his computer on the other side of town. It was .......
Message: 318
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Christian Rod!
Subject: Oudin
Date: 09/27/88 Time: 16:45:37
Get a job.
Message: 319
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Airhead James
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 06:04:46
Get a brain! You lost yours somewhere along the line!
Message: 320
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Airhead J T
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 06:50:04
Who ever said that he had a human brain?
Message: 321
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Heard on Radio....
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 10:21:49
Phoenix area police profess to be puzzled by a strange string of
incidents which have allegedly occurred in the Valley of the Sun during
the past few days. Reliable sources confirm that a cadaver is indeed
missing from Tempe's scenic Double Buttes Cemetery. The missing
remains are said to be those of a David Burkhart, a member of an
obscure Phoenix sect known as the Apolloites.
Authorities deny that there is any connection between the dis-
appearance of the Burkhart corpse and a string of grisly murders
aparently connected to the Apollo cult. No motive has yet been
established in the case of Ms. Sandy Sysop, who was apprehended
near the exhumed grave last night, a smoking 357 magnum handgun
clutched in her hand. Staff psychologists at a nearby mental
institution could not be reached to confirm her story that she
had fired 23 shots from her pistol at an apparition described
as "foul beyond all belief." Mrs. Sysop has been described by
friends as mildly deranged but not dangerous. A friend of the
family who asked to remain anonymous commented that she had
"ample reason to be deranged, what with a husband like hers!"
In an unrelated incident, authorities were interviewing an elderly
male found wandering in the Metrocenter area last night. Police say
that the suspect, identified as a Mr. Ralph Blehm, appeared incoherent
as he attempted to describe the events that caused him to have been
arrested for walking past the same point on Metro Parkway three times
within two hours.
Blehm claimed to have been dragged into a late model Corvette by
an unidentified woman, who then forced him to yield his Visa chard
card, or lose the gunny sack of aluminum cans and old condoms that he
had painstakingly collected along the roadside. He claims that he did
not get a good look at the woman, who then removed his trousers and
pulled them over his head before dumping him out of the car and
speeding off into the night.
***************** News Flash! ******************
Glendale police have cordoned off the area between 47th Avenue and
55th Avenue on Northern. Eyewitnesses at the scene are describing a
bizarre and macabre incident that defies rational belief. Mr. Gary
Jones, a witness interviewed just a few minutes, ago said that he saw a
deranged, light-haired woman driving a rental steam roller veer
suddenly up onto the curb and flatten a pedestrian. Police are unable
to confirm Mr. Jones's statement, because although they have the
deranged driver of the steam roller in custody, the foul smelling
substance on the sidewalk and adhering to the roller of the rental
machine do not appear to be pieces of human being.
A Glendale paramedic commented that the substance smelled more
like dog manure than anything else he had ever encountered. Mr.
Jones reportededly is sticking to his story, that the figure that was
flattened into unrecognizable goo was actually a pedestrian. There
is speculation that the unidentified object may be the missing body
from a local cemetery.
In further developments, Police have not yet identified the
strange woman apprehended driving the steam roller. Her only
identification was a charge card bearing the name Ralph
Blehm. Mr. Blehm was not immediately available for comment.
Also, Phoenix Police have impounded a Chevrolet Corvette
found in the parking lot of a mid-town heavy equipment rental
agency. They profess to be puzzled by an immense, bright red
phallic symbol found tied to the rear deck of the vehicle.
Stay tuned to this station for further developments.
Message: 324
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Old Fart Ralph B.
Subject: juggs
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 15:46:13
I am Not Guilty..... See Annie tvhe ASSSSSP.
I am a nice person And would Kill in such a fashion. Line them up against
a wall ans shoot the $#%**
Message: 325
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Story
Date: 09/28/88 Time: 19:45:36
Ann, the still unkown crazy woman, was put in with the other
mistakenly deranged woman, Sandy Sysop. The music rang soft and melodious
through their padded cell. The evening news caused Ann to smile. She gazed
over to Sandy's direction and commented on the foul smelling jelly like
substance being scraped off the steam roller.
"That's what's left of JT," snickers Ann. "I wanted so to get even
with him." Sandy listens in astonishment wondering at the same time if Ann
feels a need to get even with her. "I dug him up. That smelly, rotten, worm
infested corpse! I dug him up, I did." Ann cocks her head to one side. "His
head was hard to keep together you know." She stops long enough to scoot
herself closer to Sandy. "Wanna know somethin', Sandy? ........ JT don't got
no heart. I saw for myself. I dug into his chest --- it's easy to dig into
a rotten corpses' chest -- an' there was nothin' there. Not a thing!"
Sandy closed her eyes and tilts her head back against the wall
wondering why she had to come back to this Hell Hole. "Why, of all people,
did I have to get stuck with her?" she mumbles to herself. "I just know my
credit card idea will work." She looks towards the door. "Why won't someone
let me out?"
Rod realizes who that lady was on the news. If Ann only knew, if
only she knew her fate. No way was Rod going to rescue Ann, the phallic
worshiper. He stood much to gain by keeping his mouth shut than if he went
to the police. A $10,000.00 dollar reward for keeping his mouth shut was
what it took to buy him off. Rod muses over how to spend his ten thou.
"A new computer for sure," he thinks to himself. "Can't type very well with
all that dry blood and tissue in between the keys."
Meanwhile, back at the Nut House, Sandy is planning her escape.
Knowing Ann's facination with the male anatomy she puts her plan into
action. She whispers something into Ann's ear, then sits next to the door
and waits.........
Message: 327
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Story
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 06:58:40
... until the gaurd does his rounds. She didn't have to wait long. Both her
and Ann could hear him opening the large cell door and was making his way
down the aisles. Ann quickly took all her clothes off and pressed herself
against the bars.
The guard turned the cornor and his eyes almost bugged out when he caught a
glimps of Ann.
"Hey baby! Wanna have a little fun"? Ann says to him seductively.
The guard walks up close to the bars. He starts to drool.
HE didn't notice that Sandy had taken Ann's belt and had it hidden behind
her. At the point where he had forgotten everything but Ann's loveliness,
Sandy wrapped the belt around his neck and pulled. It only took a few
seconds and he was passed out on the floor. Ann reaches down and grabs his
keys and opens the cell. Both of them started running out of the jail.
Fortunately, it was late and very few cops were on duty at that time, so
they were not seen and made an easy get-a-way! They paused in a dark alley
to catch their breath.
"Boyee, is it cold" Ann said shivering.
"No wonder" said Sandy, "you don't have any clothes on! Here, put these on.
I grabbed your clothes before we left!"
"Jeeze, thanks Sandy. I completely forgot!"
Ann quickly slipped into her clothes.
In the meantime, not too far from the jail .....
.. sat cute 'fart' Ralph, looking at the Cardinal game on TV! He was trying
to calm himself after that nasty steamroller incident. The game had done the
trick and he was caught up in the action.
Suddenly, he smelt something awful and sat up with a jerk, looking around
the room. "Man, it smells like something died in here!"
From the far cornor of the room, lost in darkness, stepped a hugh, hulking
figure that reeked of the grave.
Ralph sat down again - deadly fear running through his vains. He could not
move.
The dead thing came over to where poor Ralph was sitting and said in a
gruesome voice "You are right Ralphy Baby. Something is dead in here!"
Ralph was almost fainting from terror.
The dead thing continued. "So you were wondering about JT's brain were you?
Well I have it right here. It's yours!"
Before Ralph could move an inch, the hulking figure took the brain and
shoved it down Ralph's throat. It was only a matter of seconds before he was
dead! His last thoughts were - "It's sure ironic that I'm going to spend
eternity with JT after all!" and then nothing but blackness!
The dead thing gave out his gruesome laugh and left into the night!
Message: 329
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Nude
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 09:27:22
Gee I did'nt know that you looked so good without clothes
Message: 330
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: Story
Date: 09/29/88 Time: 19:14:54
Unaware of the evenings events Sandy makes her way home. "Ann sure
was quick to leave," she ponders. At her house Sandy preoccupies herself
with looking for Cliff. Not in the computer room, not in the garage, not in
the kitchen, not in the bedroom ...... how odd. Where could he be at this
time of night?
Happy to be home tired Sandy readies herself for bed.....
Message: 331
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Tawdry Tales
Subject: story
Date: 09/30/88 Time: 15:17:43
She was half asleep when she heard Cliff come in. He went directly to the
bathroom and she heard the shower start.
"What in heck is he taking a shower for now"? she pondered. "He took one
this morning and hasn't done anything to get dirty!"
Sandy went over to the bathroom door and knocked lightly. "You OK Cliffy
dear?"
From under the shower Cliff mumbled "Yeah, I'm OK. I'll just be a few
minutes honey."
"Why are you showering this time of night?"
"Hm, ah --- I had a little accident while taking a walk!"
"What kind of accident?"
"Well - I was walking along 19th avenue where they are repairing the road
and fell into a rain filled hole and got all muddy. My clothes are a mess,
but I'm otherwise alright. Go on back to sleep baby!"
"But what's that awful smell Cliff?"
"The water was quite stagnate is all. I had to throw away my clothes.
Please! Enough explaining for tonight. Go on back to bed!"
Sandy reluctantly went back to bed, but couldn't sleep thinking "something
is terriably wrong here! What was Cliff doing taking a walk anyway at this
time of night? Why would he throw away good clothes knowing they can be
cleaned?"
Sandy started to shiver because she had became quite afraid - quite afraid
of the answer!
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