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Message: 1977
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Kolostow
Date: 11/28/91 Time: 19:00:13
Then what happened? Did Cliff get struck by lightning?
Message: 1978
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: LAST/STRUCK
Date: 11/28/91 Time: 23:19:29
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Message: 1499
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Last
Date: 09/22/91 Time: 22:16:52
If this is any~ help, I bought a Sony Diskman, used it, abused it, and
finally sold it. All without knowing anything about alignment.
See You Later,
Dean H.
Message: 1500
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Last/Dean
Date: 09/22/91 Time: 23:33:53
Gee, I thought you were an expert on such things. But I will pass
that on to Sandy. Some sales person I believe got her stuck on the idea
portables need alignment, so therefore she should buy at least a two year
service contract. I am against such things as I never have needed anything
fixed...
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Message: 1501
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: CD "alignment"
Date: 09/23/91 Time: 09:16:55
Sounds like bull$hit to me. I think the mechanism positions the light beam
according to the signal that's being reflected from the disk (unlike a
stepper motor), so I don't see what "alignment" would accomplish.
Message: 1502
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: See-Dee
Subject: alignment
Date: 09/23/91 Time: 20:57:42
Well, if it isn't pointing straight up I guess it can have trouble. If it
gets dirty and doesn't move smoothly it could have trouble. I have one of
the very early portables and I've not had trouble with it -- took it on
several motorcycle trips, car trips. Had it at work. It is now my 'home
machine' because I'm too lazy to research a new unit.
Message: 1503
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: CD alignment
Date: 09/24/91 Time: 20:42:35
I abused my Diskman a lot. I used it on everything from cars to bicycles
to Jeeps. I bought the extra warranty with it because I knew I would be
rough on it, but I never needed it, and wouldn't pay extra for it if I had
it to do over again. They also make portables with better internal
suspension now than they did when I got mine. I have seen a slightly thicker
version of the Diskman which is designed to withstand use in a car without
skipping.
See You Later,
Dean H.
Message: 1504
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: See-Dee
Subject: car use
Date: 09/25/91 Time: 23:06:17
My D-5 (the original portable) runs fine in a car as long as it is on the
floor. If it is on the dash (too hard) or on a seat (too soft) it doesn't
work as well.
Message: 1505
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: See-Dee
Subject: alignment
Date: 09/26/91 Time: 04:48:58
Some CD players use a single beam laser, others use a 3 beam laser. In the
3 beam system, the central beam reads the data from the disc, while the
other two beams maintain proper alignment and focus. One would assume that
this would be a superior system to single beam, but this has not panned out.
It is possible that a beam weakened by being split into three is no better
than a strong, single beam.
I've owned two portable CD players --- a Sony D10, and my current unit, a
Sony D555. Given the torture they've been through, I would say that
knocking them out of alignment is nearly impossible. All portables mistrack
rather easily, however. Sony makes a car mounting device for their
portables that incorporates fluid filled dampers --- it seems to work well.
Message: 1506
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: I've got a
Date: 09/26/91 Time: 10:49:19
reason to believe we all won't be received at Graceland!
Message: 1507
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Guess
Date: 10/09/91 Time: 22:25:20
What song am I humming?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Message: 1508
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Michael/last
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 06:41:23
Melancholy Baby! *>>> ANN O. <<<*
Message: 1509
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: MJ's A Hummer!
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 07:14:39
> What song am I humming?
> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
"Dynamo Hum" (or however it's spelled)?
Message: 1510
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: See-Dee
Subject: BG 1938 1/3
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 09:11:25
I finally picked up a CD copy of Benny Goodman's famous 1938 concert in
Carnegie Hall and am struck, on first listening, by three things.
First is the triumph of music over technology. This concert was recorded
with a single microphone, hung above the stage. The signal was then piped
(the liner notes don't say how, but it must have been by landline) to
Columbia's main New York studio where it was recorded to disk.
As you might expect from a 1938 recording, there's a considerable amount of
pop and hiss, the instruments are somewhat out of balance because they were
not individually mic'ed, and the equalization seems to shift unpredictably
throughout the recording. I suspect this latter problem is caused by
efforts to reduce especially objectionable noise in the original recording.
Despite these problems this is widely recognized as one of the greatest
recordings ever made. I have to agree.
My agreement comes, in large part, from the second factor that impressed me,
the triumph of music over ego.
Message: 1511
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: See-Dee
Subject: BG 1938 2/3
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 09:11:51
Even with just the Benny Goodman Trio of the time, consisting of Goodman,
Teddy Wilson at the piano, and Gene Krupa on drums, there was an enormous
possibility of egos clashing. Each was a major power in the jazz world and,
of course, each later went on to lead bands of their own. When you add
Lionel Hampton, turning the Trio into a Quartet, there is even greater
potential for a competitiveness that could tear the music apart. And we
haven't even begun to discuss the "side" players who also appeared in this
concert, among them Count Basie, Harry James, Bobby Hackett, Johnny Hodges,
and Lester Young.
Such gatherings of superstars are not uncommon today, the annual Prince's
Trust concerts in Britain come to mind, but more often than not, when Eric
Clapton, Paul McCartney, Elton John play together, accompanied by the usual
cadre of minor players, the result is a mish-mash. There is, no doubt,
some fine playing in there, but who can hear it?
By contrast the musicians at the 1938 concert complement each other,
providing support and emphasis when needed, taking the spotlight when
appropriate. *MTV Unplugged* gives today's musicians some opportunity to
practice this kind of music-making, but most fall far short of achieving any
kind of notoriety, much less the kind anyone will care about half a century
from now.
Message: 1512
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: See-Dee
Subject: BG 1938 3/3
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 09:12:14
Added together, these two elements are enough to make this a truly
remarkable recording. In the end, however, what truly puts this recording
over the top is, simply, Gene Krupa. When I think of the great drummers of
the rock era Ginger Baker (for his technique, especially with Cream), Ringo
Starr (although not a great technician, there is a certain something in the
Beatles's recordings that I think can be attributed to Starr) and, lately,
Charlie Watts (for his versatility in both the rock and jazz worlds) come to
mind.
None of these can stand up to Krupa. He's described in the liner notes as
"metronomic." And that he is, but he's also much, much more. The anchor he
provides for the others' solos and the ways he enhances those solos,
sometimes seeming to actually lead the other players and direct their
playing through subtle shifts in his own emphasis, is nothing short of
phenomenal. With this performance alone Krupa proves he was not merely an
unmatched drummer, but a magnificent musician.
This is a wonderful recording, one I wish I'd purchased years ago.
Message: 1513
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Benny
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 10:29:54
Wow! That was a great review. You sold me on it!
Message: 1514
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Michael/answer
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 13:20:29
MJ>>What song am I humming?
MJ>>
MJ>>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
The Flight of the Bumble Bee?
Message: 1515
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: WRONG!
Date: 10/10/91 Time: 20:13:08
It was a legato version of "Dueling Banjos."
Message: 1516
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Mariah Carey
Date: 10/16/91 Time: 14:14:45
Anyone else REALLY annoyed with this high squealing pop chick?
Message: 1517
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: The Wind
Date: 10/17/91 Time: 06:55:08
> Anyone else REALLY annoyed with this high squealing pop chick?
Yes, but she's got cute buns. I like to watch her videos with the sound
turned off.
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Message: 1518
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Mariah Carey
Date: 10/17/91 Time: 08:02:22
I'm in love with Mariah. Leave her alone.
Message: 1519
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Bill the Jerk
Date: 10/17/91 Time: 15:12:59
How about just putting a low-pass filter on your TV audio?
Message: 1520
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Mariah's buns
Date: 10/17/91 Time: 17:26:07
What buns?! She looks like she's 13 years old! Ohhhh, now I get it.
That's what you guys are INto...
:)
Message: 1521
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: MJ's Low Pass
Date: 10/18/91 Time: 09:29:20
> How about just putting a low-pass filter on your TV audio?
Cause I don't like it when she does her Satchmo impression either.
Message: 1522
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Mariah's Aged Buns
Date: 10/18/91 Time: 09:29:40
> What buns?! She looks like she's 13 years old!
She looks at least 15. So there.
Message: 1523
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Last
Date: 10/18/91 Time: 14:11:31
Ok. I give you 15, but that's stretching it.
Message: 1524
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Koncerts
Subject: McCartney's Oratorio
Date: 10/31/91 Time: 17:50:57
Anybody else see Paul McCartney's Oratorio on KAET. Impression ?
It was quite good in places, and fell down in others. Inconsistent, I guess.
The ending is reminiscent of Mahler. He had styles from almost every era.
I like his modern sections. Quite good and very rhythmic --- Near the end
you get a backdrop of a Beatles 4/4 beat against a very nice melody.
Message: 1525
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: McC's O
Date: 11/01/91 Time: 10:32:13
> Anybody else see Paul McCartney's Oratorio on KAET.
I saw "the making of" part, but got too sleepy to hang on for the actual
piece. I set up the VCR to record the darn thing and, in the process of
routing a stereo signal to the VCR, forgot to set the channel correctly. I
got the audio, but not the video. Haven't listened to it yet.
It was intriguing to hear McCartney relate all the small details of his
childhood and how they were worked into the piece: Sunning on the grave
markers; his father's trumpet playing; his school's motto.
I really liked the idea of having a school "roll of honor," where alumni who
had gone on to make a mark in the world were listed. Every school should
have one of those. Or at least every school that has alumni deserving of
being on such a roll.
Message: 1526
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Missing Most
Date: 11/01/91 Time: 12:47:33
of the program. Now that I've seen and heard the oratorio, it would be
interesting to watch the "making of".
Message: 1527
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Bill
Date: 11/03/91 Time: 00:24:39
I think most colleges do have "rolls of honor". I remember ASU having
something like that which included...gee, can't think of any specific people
at the moment. Jesse Jackson? Some actors?
Message: 1528
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
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Message: 1528
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: It don't mean a
Date: 11/03/91 Time: 12:48:54
thing, if it ain't got that swing!
Message: 1529
Author: $ Paul Carelli
Category: New-Release
Subject: Primitive Tribes
Date: 11/14/91 Time: 17:47:01
There is a local band in Flagstaff called Primitive Tribes. They have
just come out with their first album, _New World Death Frenzy_. I am
friends with the band and so I have a couple of cassetes that I am trying to
sell for them. If anyone is interested in local Punk music and would like
to listen to Flagstaff's latest craze let me know. The tapes are $4.50
each.
Message: 1530
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: New-Release
Subject: Primitive Tribes
Date: 11/14/91 Time: 20:18:24
Thanks we already have one.
Have you considered trying to get Zia or some other alternative record store
to take them (on commission, probably?) You might ask Peter Petrisko how
he sold his tapes.
Message: 1531
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: New-Release
Subject: Primitive Tribes
Date: 11/14/91 Time: 21:37:46
Hey! My brother sold me one (he is the bassist and lead vocalist) for five
bucks. Why the discount now?!
I thought I asked you if you knew Jeff Davis? I suppose I should have said
Sasha, eh? I was thinking that they might be a good band to play at Peter's
Gallery sometime. Also, there is a KQ contest or something going on that I
heard about today. They want people to send in their "radio play" quality
tapes. If you talk to them before I do, you might let them know about it.
I thought I knew you from somewhere!
Message: 1532
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Koncerts
Subject: Laurie Anderson
Date: 11/14/91 Time: 21:40:34
Me and just about all my friends are going to see the Friday night
performance at Scottsdale Center for the Arts. My mom is even going on
Saturday night! It's scary when my mom and I like the same music. Am I
getting old or is she just immature?
Message: 1533
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Same Music/Jackson
Date: 11/15/91 Time: 08:07:36
> It's scary when my mom and I like the same music.
This seems to happen all the time at my house, except in this case Deb and I
are the mom and dad.
Did anyone else catch the new Michael Jackson video last night? I liked
both it and the music a great deal. And one complemented the other very
nicely. The sequence where all those people kept changing into other people
had the best morphing I've ever seen. Remarkable stuff.
OTOH, I think the piece was weakened considerably by the solo dancing stuff
at the end. While there's no doubt that Jackson is one of dance's foremost
talents, I don't see what all the glass-smashing had to do with anything.
Just more senseless violence.
Message: 1534
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: M.J.'s new video
Date: 11/15/91 Time: 10:00:09
Did anyone see Michael Jackson's new video last night called Black & White?
It was touted as being excellent. My opinion ... in parts it was absolutely
fantastic - the special effects were mind boggling. Michael looked terrific
- he has obviously gained some weight and looks much better. His face looks
like Diana Ross - but then that's what he's been trying for - but the song
itself was nothing - no lingering melody that one can hum and some of his
antics left us puzzled. It wasn't really dancing in parts but more violent
movements. I'll never figure out why he 'plays' with himself! Maybe someone
can enlighten me on that. We also never did figure out why he took a bat to
the car's windows. The entire video was violent and I suppose had a message
about it making no different what color your skin is - but I never got the
message! Any comments? *>>> ANN O. <<<*
Message: 1535
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Michael Jackson Vide
Date: 11/15/91 Time: 10:41:27
o.
I only saw the end where he was dancing and then turned into a black
panther. That part was pretty silly. The same "Hooooooo" we've heard in
"Bad" which was not one of my favorite parts to begin with. MTV is playing
it 10 times a day or something so I'm sure I will get to see it in it's
entirety before the day is out.
Message: 1536
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Mom's music
Date: 11/15/91 Time: 10:42:49
The first shocker was when I found out my mom liked to listen to KQ. She
even thinks my brother's band, Primitive Tribe, sounds good. The fact that
she isn't revolted by punk at age 48 is pretty scary in itself!
Message: 1537
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Nick on video
Date: 11/16/91 Time: 08:49:31
In this morning's paper - on the front page was an article about that video.
Michael appologized for it - mainly the masterbation and the violence and it
has now been cut out. Soon, you will not be able to see the original.
I guess the switchboards were lit up like a Xmas tree after it played for
the first time with complaints about the above. I am no prude and certainly
believe that there should be very little censureship - but he has a great
following of children and I don't feel this video should be seen without
parental consent. I wouldn't want my 6 year old seeing it - mainly because
of the violence! *>>> ANN O. <<<*
The original should have been kept intact ALSO and shown later at night for
those that want to see such things.
My opinion - the violence and masterbation were not entertaining, classy or
attractive. And it certainly wasn't dancing, nor was it a listenable song.
No one moves like Michael, but he should have watched a few of his moves in
this one.
Message: 1538
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Video
Date: 11/16/91 Time: 22:33:37
After watching it completely I have come to a few conclusions. First, the
song is just sort of regular pop. No big deal. The beginning seemed out of
place, just an excuse to use the kid from _Home Alone_ and "Norm" from
"Cheers". Also, the kids said "eat my shorts" which seemed pretty rude and
unlike Michael Jackson's other videos. The best part about the video was
the computer generated transformation sequences. The dancing during the
video was ok, nothing I haven't seen from him before. The ending dance
sequence didn't make any sence. By the way, I didn't think the crotch
grabbing stuff was masturbatory, just a dance move that he and Madonna do
frequently. The ending smashing of glass and dancing a capella had nothing
to do with the song, the beginning of the video, and didn't really stand on
it's own as a statement since no one seems to know what the heck he is
trying to say! The screams, mixed with the panther sounds, seemed to be
parallaling the video transformations in the way you could hear the human
screams and then the animal scream mixed in and then taking over the audio
at the end. I also read the article in the paper this morning and Michael's
answer about the ending is that his violence was symbolic to the animal like
nature of a panther. Ok, but what the heck does that have to do with the
video or song?! Overall, the whole thing has been hyped to death. It's an
ok song, the video that will remain from the long version will be shown on
MTV for a few months and then disappear (my prediction) and this album will
not out sell his previous one. Michael Jackson is on the way out, I'm
afraid (well, for him I am afraid. I don't really mind).
Unless he comes forward with any revelations about his family, I see him
Message: 1539
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Con't
Date: 11/16/91 Time: 22:34:23
dying a young death, starvation perhaps, being buried with his pet monkey.
Message: 1540
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Melissa on Michael
Date: 11/18/91 Time: 10:16:05
I agree with your posts - but not about Michael fading into the sunset. I
think he will be around for years. He still has talent coming out his ears!
As far as his movements 'not being masterbatory' - how you figure that when
he zipped up his fly? It was very obvious to the 5 people that watched it at
my house! *>>> ANN O. <<<*
Message: 1541
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: out of my ears
Date: 11/18/91 Time: 12:55:36
Thank you!
Message: 1542
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Jackson
Date: 11/18/91 Time: 20:13:39
Well, I think the movements were suggestive but not masturbatory. Zipping
up his fly? I took that as just a funny move. I mean, Madonna difinately
simulates masturbating on stage. Maybe Michael's just wasn't as obvious. I
guess unless I see it coming out his ears, I don't think it's real.
Message: 1543
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Madonna
Date: 11/19/91 Time: 04:31:56
According to some well-placed sources, Madonna is much shorter than she
appears to be on film, and has zits.
Message: 1544
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Michael's video
Date: 11/19/91 Time: 07:29:04
They took out the pather sequence. What a shame. That was breath taking when
he turned into a panther. *>>> ANN O. <<<*
Message: 1545
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Last
Date: 11/19/91 Time: 22:43:31
Is the cut version out already? I wonder if they knew they would have to
tame it down and had the G rated version done already. Reminds me of the
New Coke ploy.
Message: 1546
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Melissa/last
Date: 11/21/91 Time: 09:43:09
Come to think of it - what better advertising for that video than to cut out
part of it! -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 1547
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Mercury
Date: 11/25/91 Time: 20:33:27
The last thing I want to do is to drag the AIDS topic into yet another
forum, but I was sorry to hear that we've lost Freddie Mercury. I bought
another Queen album today in his honor.
I have a few already. I think my favorite is "A Day at the Races" (which
Jane bought for me). I had to agree with the (probably tongue-in-cheek)
album-cover comment on "Tie Your Mother Down":
"Sheer bloody poetry" -- *The Times*
Message: 1548
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Last
Date: 11/26/91 Time: 07:47:50
"A Night at the Opera" is mine, but "Day at the Races" is a close second.
The sound of both is somewhat similar.
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Message: 80078
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bo Dog #80058
Date: 11/28/91 Time: 18:51:49
Well, I didn't have time to go through the last 200 messages, so I onlly
read the last 20 or so. I *thought* Matlock was Mark Adkins--his use of the
term "self aggrandizement" gave him away. Thornbob turned into a cat? He
never seemed the cutesy-name type...
Message: 80079
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: latest
Date: 11/28/91 Time: 18:57:33
Hey, thanks Catbob! I will be going away again real soon, for your
satisfaction. ROD, your posts are still as groovy as ever. I really like
that saying, "If you believe in forever, then life is just a one-night
stand." Something to think about...sometimes!
Message: 80080
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Politics
Subject: CARTER/AIDS
Date: 11/28/91 Time: 23:49:44
Regardless of its origins, the HIV virus has spread to the heterosexual
community. Dwelling on the origin of any disease is counterproductive and
pointless. In this case, the only thing you'll accomplish is inflaming
people. (No pun intended).
What are you trying to get at? My guess would be:
1) Due to the origins of AIDS we should do nothing to find a cure.
Homosexuals and drug users, by their very nature, deserve nothing less than
a slow, painful death.
2) The spread of AIDS to the heterosexual community is part of vast global
conspiracy perpetrated by spiteful gays.
Is your hatred of homosexuals so great that you're blinded to the fact
there is a face behind every AIDS statistic? If we took your "they brought
it upon themselves" mentality to its logical conclusion we'd also have to
turn our backs on alcoholics, teenagers with unwanted pregnancies and others
who have fallen by the wayside due to bad judgement calls. Is the solution
to ostracize those who fall well below our society's definition of
"productive"?
I saw no possible solutions offered. Only rehash. Do we really have
the time to rehash the past?
Message: 80081
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: In search of
Subject: WELFARE
Date: 11/29/91 Time: 00:05:00
What do you people think about able-bodied individuals who collect
welfare every month going back a generation?
I read an article in the Republic this week about one state's solution.
Basically the total amount of the welfare check is lowered and families can
then earn "bonuses" as long as the children are in school and are receiving
proper medical attention.
I think this program is a good start. Call me crazy but I'd go so far
as to say any able-bodied welfare recipient should be required to perform
volunteer work for so many hours per week. (Three hours a day, five days a
week for example). Highway repair, garbage scavenging, building repair,
etc. A national "self help" program that would benefit the entire nation.
Any comments, alternate solutions, etc. are more than welcome.
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Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Answer!
Subject: Green/Aids Test
Date: 11/29/91 Time: 00:31:26
RE: "should I insist that my partner gets tested for AIDS with a mandatory 6
month waiting priod?"
Not a bad idea(is this the correct word or is it ideal)! But tought to do if
you are suppose to trust the person you are going to marry.
<<< Joe >>>
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1:Right Peter, a solution needs to be worked out and implimented. I would
2:think a decent start would be for the receipients in each area to create a
3:center for child care, etc. It could be the Switchboard of that community.
4:There could be a big kitchen for feeding the children, both large and small.
5:The mothers could take turns teaching the children about life as viewed from
6:their personal perspective.
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8:I can see a scheme that could work, it is in my head but to even try to get
9:it together would cause many people to scream communism. Whatever the 'bad'
10:system is at the time, it is always the one you are accused of mimicking.
11:
12:I would give this name to the system: BROTHER & SISTERHOOD.
13:
14:There would be no money because there would be no need for it and if someone
15:was given some they would use it for compost.
16:
17:There would be no churches because the whole of the earth and all passengers
18:therein and thereon would be a giant church, so to speak.
19:
20:There would be CD players though, and beyond.
21:
22:Receiving welfare has a certain amount of degrade-eness to it. I'm sure the
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1:I think that a person should be tested for AIDS every week. In that way,
2:everytime you give blood, the needle that punctures your vessels is more
3:likely to give you AIDS
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5:The above was written backwards
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1:Remember this: The more often a person is tested for AIDS, by a nurse with
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2:made to slide into an artery in your body, the more chance you have of
3:testing positive for the HIV virus or other maladies.
4:
5:This procedure is usually done in a hospital, a building that is full of
6:'weird' germs. No thanks. Nor would I like it in a doctors office where
7:there lurks in every dark corner something scary.
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9:Nor in a beautiful stream in a mountainous region, surrounded by nature.
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Date: 11/29/91 Time: 00:05:00
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Author: $ Rod Williams
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Subject: WELFARE AIDS
Date: 11/29/91 Time: 02:37:09
Right Peter, a solution needs to be worked out and implimented. I would
think a decent start would be for the receipients in each area to create a
center for child care, etc. It could be the Switchboard of that community.
There could be a big kitchen for feeding the children, both large and small.
The mothers could take turns teaching the children about life as viewed from
their personal perspective.
I can see a scheme that could work, it is in my head but to even try to get
it together would cause many people to scream communism. Whatever the 'bad'
system is at the time, it is always the one you are accused of mimicking.
I would give this name to the system: BROTHER & SISTERHOOD.
There would be no money because there would be no need for it and if someone
was given some they would use it for compost.
There would be no churches because the whole of the earth and all passengers
therein and thereon would be a giant church, so to speak.
There would be CD players though, and beyond.
Receiving welfare has a certain amount of degrade-eness to it. I'm sure the
people would like a change of lifestyle for the better. But then again, the
paranoid would feel they were being herded to a concentration camp and they
Message: 80084
Author: $ Rod Williams
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Subject: last
Date: 11/29/91 Time: 02:38:31
may be right, depending on what the administration is like.
Message: 80085
Author: $ Rod Williams
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Subject: AIDS testing
Date: 11/29/91 Time: 02:47:17
The more often a person is tested for AIDS or anything where a needle is
made to slide into an artery in your body, the more chance you have of
testing positive for the HIV virus or other maladies.
This procedure is usually done in a hospital, a building that is full of
'weird' germs. No thanks. Nor would I like it in a doctors office where
there lurks in every dark corner something scary.
Nor in a beautiful stream in a mountainous region, surrounded by nature.
Rod
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I love you.
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Author: $ Gordon Little
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Subject: Mercury
Date: 11/25/91 Time: 20:33:27
The last thing I want to do is to drag the AIDS topic into yet another
forum, but I was sorry to hear that we've lost Freddie Mercury. I bought
another Queen album today in his honor.
I have a few already. I think my favorite is "A Day at the Races" (which
Jane bought for me). I had to agree with the (probably tongue-in-cheek)
album-cover comment on "Tie Your Mother Down":
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Author: $ Melissa Dee
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Date: 11/26/91 Time: 07:47:50
"A Night at the Opera" is mine, but "Day at the Races" is a close second.
The sound of both is somewhat similar.
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1:Get use to big names dying from AIDS. It is the thing to do.
2:
3:I recently got a Frontier AM/FM CD, car radio. It was distributed by a
4:company in California and is made in Korea?
5:
6:It was given to me by a client of about ten years. The CD part did not work
7:but when I got home, I took the top cover off and lubriplated all the
8:'slider' areas and plastic gears then it began accepting disks.
9:
10:This is a good place.
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