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Apollo BBS Archive - May 15, 1991



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Date: 05/14/91  Time: 18:48:25

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It's "toe the line" not "tow the line."

Thanks for plugging for more home construction.  The real
kicker, especially in this neck of the woods, is the massive
*surplus* of office space.  This situation holds the prices
of individual homes (and rents) artificially high while 
holding business expenses (for those who can afford to lease
office space) artificially low.  When I find empty offices
at work, I sneak in and write on the whiteboard: "A homeless
person could have been living here."  It usually stays on 
the board for a *long* time because nobody cares until
somebody needs the office and nobody needs the office 
because of the glut.
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 1:I'm tired of being a human animal.  I want more freedom.  Flesh is shit.
 2:
 3:I guess I'll get my wish.  Wouldn't it be cool if we could drop our flesh 
 4:and then go around as a form of energy and change things?
 5:
 6:Oh, fuck it.
 7:
 8:Nice chatting.
 9:
10:Smoke some pot for the Pope.
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Mail to Dean Hathaway
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 02:31:57

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Mail from Apro Poet
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 18:02:04

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No, I don't believe we've ever met outside of Apollo.

I've been meaning to tell you again ... You know you really
have to be careful of using phrases like "advocating the
violent overthrow of the United States."  This is a key
phrase that incriminated a lot of people during the
McCarthy witchhunts.  It's still regarded as sufficient
grounds for a judge to authorize an FBI wire tap.  I know
you're a peaceful guy so I assume you only mean it in a
hypothetical sense.  I'd advise explicitly stating the
hypothetical nature of all such statements in the future.
It wouldn't hurt to keep hardcopies of these disclaimers in
a safe place.  I may be paranoid but this is pretty cheap
insurance for possible future trials.

A safe alternative would be to quote the part of the
Declaration of Independence that deals with overthrowing
a tyranical government.
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 1:Thanks for the advice.  I will keep it in mind.  But you will notice that I 
 2:didn't post "Adolph is back and he's hiding behind a Bush", did I?
 3:
 4:I am not trying to overthrow any government, just trying to change one of 
 5:them.  Dean posts some good ideas on the subject.
 6:
 7:Thanks again.      Rod
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Message: 26
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: About me!
Subject: My Twilight zone...
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 20:58:24

My condensed life to date is as such;
Born in California, age 4 moved (hijacked) to Perth Western Australia with
family. There we settled in to a somewhat different society where my
brother and I were put through the Australian school system / society.
Age 12; "Born again" at Baptist church through efforts of Boys Brigade.
Age 15; Jaw broken in 5 places by gang; turning the other cheek stops here.
Decide to learn how to protect self...start Kook Sool Won & Tae Kwon Do
classes..6 nights a week for 3 years. AGE 16; Gangs stop picking on "yank".
Learn to fly with flying doctor. Age 17; Pilots license & firearms license.
(No 2nd ammendment over there). Work for Mundaring Shire Council at a place
called Lake Laschenaultia as assistant to the Forestry ranger.
Age 19; Moved from Perth W.A. to Phoenix , AZ. (Sigh, I'll miss that Lake.)
Navy enlistment...qualified for Nuclear Submarine duty and so posted in
Groton Connecticut. Write freelance for Boston Globe and Groton Navy times.
Sink a few derelict diesels in North Atlantic, chase IVAN around in Mid
Atlantic. Get busted two stripes for playing "joke" on Russian vessel.
Age 25; Civilian life turns into suburban life and this boy gets married.
Start job as Electronics Systems Technician at Sky Harbor Airport. (CITY).
Short 3 yr tour with Army Guard. Save C.O.P  $2.5 million thru suggestion.
Hobbies: Pyrotechnic arts, Ham radio, Marksmanship, Electronics, 
Cooking, Computer stuff, Cartooning and ultralight flying.
LIKES:  Wife, people who shoot straight and *big* firecrackers.
DISLIKES: Drunk drivers, sychophants, women politicians, let-downs.
SUMMARY: A loveable but dangerous Born-again red-necked sexist super tech. 

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Message: 75156
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:10:13

I'm sorry that you have such a low opinion of yourself Annie. God thinks a
lot more highly of you than you do of yourself, apparently, because He has
set you and established you (and me, and the rest of us. lest you feel TOO
exclusive) above the rest of the world. It (they) are not only beneath us,
they are our responsibility. Unfortunately, we have done a pretty miserable
job of things, which is why God had to provide a means of escape for us from
the burden of our sins. He did just that in the person and work of His Son,
Jesus Christ, but that's a whole other story, isn't it? If you can't
understand man's relationship to others and to this world, how can you ever
understand our relationship to God? It ain't easy, but it's well worth the
search.

Message: 75157
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie/polls
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:13:53

 I would like to be some sort of invisible person in the room where those
"polls" are conducted. Of course, you can always make a poll say anything
you want it to say. It's not too difficult, for example, to find a poll that
will be anti-Republican if you only poll the rolls of the Democratic party.
Or slant an anti-candy poll at Weight Watchers.

Message: 75158
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gordon/75135
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:19:38

 Unfortunately, Gordon, you are accepting the false premise that
homosexuality is an unavoidable circumstance. It is a matter of choice, not
birth. It is considered a sexual PREFERENCE, indicating choice. I know of
former queers that have chosen to go "straight" and have done so,
successfully and happily. The act of homosexuality is still a SIN. Again,
may I suggest that you read ROmans, chapter 1.

Message: 75159
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob T/75143
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:23:22

99 and 9/10 % of the time, I simply consider the source and ignore the
prattlings. They're not worth a response.

Message: 75160
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Religion
Subject: B.Dog/OT
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 06:29:42

Lot may have OFFERED his daughters to the homosexuals at the door who were
looking for the male angels, but it is never said that the offer was
accepted. Queers don't have much use for members of the opposite sex when it
comes to that sort of thing.
 And just where did you get all of your warped ideas about the Apostle Paul?
It sounds like you've been reading some out-of-date Israeli National
Enquirer or something. Apply all things in Scripture to the context in which
they are found, and you'll get a totally different point of view. It's easy
to tear words or statement out of context and make them mean almost
anything. "Judas hanged himself. Go thou and do likewise." See what I mean?

Message: 75161
Author: Gene Walls
Category: Politics
Subject: non political atmosp
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 07:42:45

This country would be better off without political parties.*
A new system of broke candidates would be accepted by public*
Living costs of candidate would be paid by government*
No other resources to office holder would be allowed.*

Message: 75162
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/Upload
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 07:48:16

Yes, please do upload the "whole list of ... stupidity"

Message: 75163
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/speck of decency
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 07:51:08

If it hurts, perhaps your conscience it trying to tell you something. I
addressed no one in particular --- if you feel that it was calling you a
name, then you probably feel guilty about it. Why don't you talk to your
clergyman or psychologist about it ?

Message: 75164
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff on animals
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:50:43

I still would not classify the homo sapians as unique above all others on
our planet. All species could be called unique.
 
The only thing that we are unique on is going against our nature all the
time or trying to! In doing so, it probably makes us the most un-happiest
species around. 
 
We could be called unique also by calling what is natural to our species a
'sin' - like sex when puberty calls - maybe even homesexuality. 
 
Why have you labeled me negative because I don't particually see us as
unique? Human's have many wonderful attributes that is uniquely their's, but
so does the Capuchin monkey, the lowly cockroach and the black Rhino.
 
Don't try to make me feel bad by comparing me to Rod. I go along with most
of what he says and admire him for saying it! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 75165
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Michael #75133
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:55:57

Good point Michael - in that sense, dogs do indeed kill for territory. My
point is, that is their nature - they are not going against it.
We, as a species, I feel also are killers, but we call it 'war' and justify
it - yet, on the other hand, we make it a sin to kill! But we have this
great thinking brain and you'd of thought long before now we wouldn't have
to kill anyone, but under these circomstances, we are no better or unique
than the dog that kills for his territory. *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 75166
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bobby on roll
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:58:37

$49 mil for a rock and roll museum?? What a way to go! Now that's a good
cause in my book! We might even get to see Elvis's guitar some day! :)
                          *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 75167
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bobby on lust
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 09:59:44

BUT - if it isn't a natural thing for some people (being homesexual) why
would they 'lust' after the opposite sex? *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 75168
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bobby on ducks
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 10:02:48

Hey fellow! Don't go knocking the homosexual duck and saying it's a falicy 
--- I had one one time! He crippled 6 chickens (because he was so big) and
two of those chickens were roosters too!! We also had four female ducks that
he totally ignored. :) *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 75169
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bobby on handles
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 10:04:06

You can call me 'Peaches'! I've always wanted that nick name.
                   *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 75170
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bobby on abom.
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 10:05:12

An Abomination is an Abomination is an Abomination! Ditto the rose.
                     *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 75171
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann on uniqueness
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 13:47:03

I like your message. If we consider ourselves part of the earth living here
with all the other animals and plants, then we will treat our environment
differently than if we think we are the "unique" species and we can do what
we want including cutting down 1000 year-old trees and killing rhinos for
their horns and chopping down the rain-forest.

Message: 75172
Author: $ Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: Dean #75152
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 18:29:17

Gee, that explains why management tells me that management's
policy is to withhold advancement from those employees who
do too *good* of a job ... not *despite* their doing too good
of a job but *because* they've done too good of a job.

It also explains why, when I indicate the similarities
between such policies and the policies of a caste system,
management responds with "There are no laws against caste
systems." ... This from a "progressive" organization, mind
you.

The left hand is Government.  The right is Corporation.
Woe be to we who stand between the hands as they applaud
their mutual application of raw power.

Message: 75173
Author: $ Apro Poet
Category: On the Lighter Side
Subject: Sex Ed
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 18:35:03

Among the items the venerable Stanford University was 
accused of billing the federal government for recently in
some expense account rigamarole (as uncovered by the General
Accounting Office) were the enlarging of president Donald
Kennedy's bed, the purchase of special sheets for the bed,
and $6,000 to line his closet with cedar.  Kennedy stood by
his interpretation that federal regulations permitted the
expenses.

Message: 75174
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Apro/promotion
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 20:08:51

Management promotes in its own image.

Message: 75175
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Religion
Subject: Appeal to Authority
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 20:10:02

My major source is Bishop John Spong of the Episcopal church. I'd dare say
he knows a fair bit more about context (not just of the text, but of the
times) than you do.

Message: 75176
Author: $ Steve MacGregor
Category: Question?
Subject: Blondes
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 21:31:43

  Hey, do you know how to really make your blond girlfirend's eyes light up?

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Message: 75177
Author: $ Steve MacGregor
Category: Answer!
Subject: Blondes
Date: 05/15/91  Time: 21:32:31

  How?  Why, you shine a flashlight in her ear, of course!

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