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Apollo BBS Archive - May 13, 1989


Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 03:49:19

I think there will be an environmentally undamaging substitute for freon in
the next five years or so. Vermont is the leader in outlawing flourocarbon
use in auto air conditioners, and the automakers will have to respond.

Meanwhile, we have sickos that rape and murder old, defenseless women.
[A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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 1:        I was directly across the street from the 1st victim's house the day
 2:after she was murdered.  I was there to re-key an apartment.  I think the 
 3:murderer is a real-estate broker who is hungry for listings.  I am staying 
 4:fairly armed these days.   -Rod
 5:        P.S.  I hope you are correct about finding a safe substitute for 
 6:freon.  Now all we have to do is go steam or battery for our auto's.  

Mail from Ann Oudin
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:04:33

I know that Sandy does not hate you. When we are together and the subject of
Apollo comes up, she always says nice, complimentary things about you. One
thing for sure - she knows you keep Apollo going more times than not!

Speaking of alias: Have you ever met Steve MacGrager the 'Hoot man' guy?
I know I haven't and I don't recall anyone else telling me they have either.

Prediction: You will win the story Kontest!

                               -=*) ANN (*=-
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 1:        Steve has  been on the BBS scene for years.  He works for the FBI 
 2:but don't get exicited.  It is only his company's initials.  It has to do 
 3:with the computer business.
 4:        Why would you think that I would win the story contest.  It is nice 
 5:of you to say that but the only good review I recived was from you.  Other 
 6:than that there was no mention of it.  Paul, as recommended by Cliff, 
 7:wouldn't even read the story.  Paul liked yours though.  He didn't 
 8:understand the subtlities of Dean's story which I find amazing.  Sandy's and
 9:Jeannies story was so much mush but Gary's story was very well written but 
10:was a character assignation of sorts.
11:        Oh well.   Thanks for the info.   -Rod

Mail from Ann Oudin
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:44:11

Are you talking about Cliff throwing out the Kontest because I don't like
beauty contests? The next morning I had a post from him and he said he was
only kidding and was trying to stir things up a bit. -=*) ANN (*=-
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 1:        I knew he was only kidding.  He was making a point.  I haven't been 
 2:following the current debate because I got really sick in the middle of the 
 3:week.  I got a bad sore throat.  I was reduced to eating pablum for two day 
 4:because that is all I could swallow, that and luke warm water.  But now I am
 5:fine again, thanks in part to our family doctor calling me for an emergency 
 6:job wherein he gave me some free medicine.

Mail from James Taranto
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:16:59

I didn't read any of the stories.
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 1:        Why didn't you read any of the stories?  Dean's story is really 
 2:good.  The point is so hidden that Salvage's mind cannot comprehend it.  But
 3:on first glance it is obvious to a thinking person.  It deals with a new 
 4:bible of sorts.  It seems that our world was destroyed then the new 
 5:civilization found scraps of Apollo printouts, written by us, and were 
 6:trying to go by them in their religious beliefs.  I mean, their beliefs were
 7:based on the writing of the old, destroyed civilization.  They put meanings 
 8:to those printouts.  Dean did a good job.  Salvage's mind is dead.  -Rod
 9:
10:P.S.  You should write a short story and enter it.  My story was interesting
11:and I enjoyed writing it.  Ann's story was also interesting.

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Message: 5483
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod on Paul
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:31:25

I think he will get the meaning of my story without any problem.

Yeah Paul - you gotta read them all. Be fair. Their all excellant.
                         -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 5484
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann?
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 07:54:51

        Some writer...  You say "Their all excellant."    I think you really
mean "They're all excellent" as in "They are all excellent."  The 'their'
you used is to be possessive of, or belonging to.  Also note that your
spelling of 'excellant' is incorrect.  That should be 'ent' as there is no
'ant' in excellent.  
        You had better get into a skimpy swimsuit and sell toilet bowl
cleaner instead.  Writing is not your forte.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 5485
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cliff/last
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:46:03

        You spelled your name incorrectly.

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Message: 181
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod on JT
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:32:07

He has a memory like an elephant doesn't he? -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 182
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: JT/elephant
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:47:43

An elephant or perhaps a parrot?

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Message: 2233
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ralphy
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:35:24

I'm glad you liked all the stories dear, but when it comes time for you to
vote, please recall all those wonderful days we've spent together at my
house playing all those games that Rose and Whitey know nothing about. The
days that we were so close, you couldn't get a toothpick between us. Those
intimate days in the small back room! Think on this when you go to vote.
                  -=*) ANN (*=- XXX OOO

Message: 2234
Author: $ Traci Sibel
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: lasty
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 09:57:13

would that be considered 'bribery', 'blackmail', or 'begging'?
Technicalities....

Message: 2235
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Bribery
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 10:54:01

        Is considered to be a crime, and punishable with a month in the Zone
for anyone convicted.  

Message: 2236
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:24:37

        Then it was either 'blackmail' or 'begging' ..........



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Message: 3084
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Movie
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:37:00

Come to think of it - I've never seen Deep Throat either! Can you rent it
in the adult section of video stores? -=*) ANN (*=-

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Message: 58686
Author: Keith Holler
Category: Bulletins
Subject: BBS
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 00:43:40

--==** The Lost Boys BBS **==--

is now back on line after a 4 year vacation. 64C based system - 300/1200 -
278-0024. Give it a call.

                    Keith

Message: 3085
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer !
Subject: Last
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 15:43:27

You should be able to.  It's a classic.  You'll never be able to drink Coke
again without smiling.

Message: 3086
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Deep Throat
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:30:14

        I have not seen it either.
What is it about?
Cliff will not let me see it, so I must turn to my fellow Apolloites.

Odd, though ......... he saw Deep Throat ............

Message: 3087
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Answer !
Subject: James/Debbie
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:34:20

        I have not the foggiest notion as to which Debbie we saw. I had no
idea that a sequal could be made from such movies .........

                        BUT, THEN AGAIN ......

        Were they something like -- Debbie Does D.C. -- Debbie Does Denver?

You know, I never saw a Virgin with a C-section scare before.

Message: 3088
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Sandy/deep throat
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:54:37

        I thought you had said that you saw the movie.  You and Jeannie
write so very much alike that I guess I just became confused.


Message: 58687
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: guess what?
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 03:53:48

The new issue of "Pro-Choice" magazine is now at your local newsstand. It's
the annual swimsuit issue -- lots of before and after shots. Oh, and check
out the feature -- "Roe or Wade, Bikinis Make the Grade."

Message: 58688
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jeannie/bounce
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:07:50

You can solve that easy - go get two cantalope! Large sized ones of course!
                          -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 58689
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/#58680
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:16:52

Re: women making degrading remarks about males .... sorry. There just isn't
the equivalant words in the english language for them to do so like the men
have. I.E. 'Broads!' 'Chippie'! 'Nag'! 'Floozy'! Where as we only have words
like 'Hunk!' 'Macho'! 'Manly'! & 'Stud'! Also, the men have a much broader
spectrum to choose from which I can not discribe on this board.
                         -=*) ANN (*=-
P.S. Of course, at times women make up their own words discribing males!

Message: 58690
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: Tarantooo
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:24:49

I did make it clear on why I object to beauty contests. Very clear! 
I do not object to commercials featuring beautiful women if it applies to
the product being sold! A perfect woman of face and form in a bikini is
great in a sun tan product ad - but not in a toilet bowl cleaner one. A
beautiful woman advertizing an exotic perfume with a sexy outfit on and lust
on her face is alright, but not the same woman in a car ad where she's
draping herself over the hood like she going to make love to it. 
Re: Sports Illustrated (again) - that's like Good Housekeeping having a once
a year male swim suit issue! Doesn't make a bit of sense or apply.
How much clearer can I get? -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 58691
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nick/last
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:29:36

Wouldn't surprise me in the least! I've seen women in bikinis on the cover
of computer magazines, so why not the Pro-choice mag?
Hmmm ... however, I have not EVER seen a man in a bikini on the cover of a
computer magazine! Nor puring junk down a toilet! Nor on the cover of a
hunting mag. Have I missed something? -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 58692
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oudin
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 07:24:16

You still make no sense.  You have not explained how beuaty contests
diminish freedom (your original claim, remember?), nor how the Sports
Illustrated swimsuit issue or beautiful women in commercials for cars or
toilet bowls do, especially when beautiful women in ads for perfume,
pornography, and swimsuit magazines don't.  I would like you to explain the
subtle distinction between these two categories, and how the things in the
former category can possibly diminish freedom.

Message: 58693
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann??
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 08:08:46

I did not say anything about women making degrading remarks about males.....
Jeannie said in her post the words 'Poop FEmales'.....   She degraded her
own kind.  Whith her on your side, you don't need men to make degrading
remarks about females.   ha ha ha

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 58694
Author: $ Robert Knee
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann Oudin
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:02:25

I would like to explain the point Ann Oudin is making with regard to beauty
contests and other events that exploit sex.  Her point is not that sex is
evil or should be repressed, quite the contrary.  Rather, she is arguing
that sex is an important part of life and must be kept in its place, not
mixed with other things.  She objects to toothpaste commercials that feature
attractive women because toothpaste has nothing to do with sex.  She objects
to the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition because sports has nothing to do
with sex.  She objects to beauty contests because competition has nothing to
do with sex.  On the other hand, prostitution, pornography, nude dancing
clubs, perfume ads with sexy women, and magazines whose sole purpose is to
show beautiful women in sexy bathing suits are OK, because they are pure
sex, uncomtaminated by other influences.

The dangers of mixing sex with other things should be apparent to all.  The
recent rape of a young woman in New York, for example, was the result of
mixing sex with youthful raucousness.  There are thousands of other
examples:  AIDS, autoerotic asphyxiation, date rape, and human sacrifice,
for example.  All these are the results of mixing sex with other things. 
Ann Oudin is one hundred per cent correct when she says that sex must be
kept in its place and not mixed with anything else.  I salute her for taking
such a corageous stand.

Message: 58695
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sports/last
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:57:05

        But sports has everything to do with sex.  To the victors go the
spoils.  All (read ALL) people everywhere crave sex.  Mother Nature took
care of this, really well.  To put it another way, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING
HAS TO DO WITH SEX.  On the average of 1000 times per day the human animal
thinks of SEX.  That is putting it mildly.

Message: 58696
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:27:30

Re:  "I protest spelling contests, as a bad speller can't win so it is
unfair!"

Come on Cliff.  A bad speller can learn how to spell.  An ugly person can't
learn how to be beautiful.  I suppose an ugly person can have plastic
surgery if they can afford it.  But that's not the principle Ann or I was
speaking of.  I thought you would be able to see that.

Message: 58697
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Steve M
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:35:38

Re:  "Yes, ugly people cannot win beauty
contests, and puny people cannot win weight-lifting contests.
  The two do *not* differ in principle."

They *do* differ in principle!  I'm surprised you cannot see it.

A puny person can exercise and build up muscle.
A ugly cannot do anything to build beauty.

Any person can develop a skill required to win a contest based on skill. 
One cannot develop beauty.  You are either born with it or born without it.

Ann said it, "why should anyone get awards, glory laud and honor for their
beauty because they happened to be born that way".

Message: 58698
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 14:43:42

Re:  "On the average of 1000 times per day the human animal
thinks of SEX.  That is putting it mildly."

How in the world do you have time to do any locksmithing??

Message: 58699
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 15:48:17

He is ambidextrious.  So whichever hand is free....

Message: 58700
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: R. Knee
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 15:49:34

Toothpaste has nothing to do with sex?  Obviously you haven't lived.

Message: 58701
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob T/on spelling
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 16:15:21

        Now Bob, there are some people who can remember every thing they
see, and are natural spellers...  You can not take a person who can't
remember and teach him to spell as well as a natural speller.  The bad
speller may win a contest if pitted against other bad spellers, but that is
the best he will ever be able to do.  There are a lot of things that seem
unfair in life but some people will be better suited than others... A 3 foot
person can't be trained to play better basketball than a 7 foot person who
plays basketball.  A running contest is more likely to be won by someone
with a long stride.  There is more to it than just training...  Your body
has got to be able to do it.  Training becomes more important when two
physical compatible people are competing.  I really doubt Miss America can
jerk 800 lbs no matter how long she trains.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 58702
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mother's day
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:12:09

                         IOU  by Jimmy Dean
     You know, most people look through their wallets or their pocket 
books, and way down at the bottom, past the credit cards and baby pictures 
and green stamps you ususlly find a little old dog-eared piece of poetry.  
I was cleaning out my wallet the other day, and I ran across a whole bunch 
of IOU's, some of them thirty years over due.  Funny thing is, that all 
these IOU's are owed to one person.  And, I kinda feel like right now 
might be a pretty good time for an accounting.
     Mom, you listening?  Mom, I owe you for so many things.  A lot of 
services.  Like night watchman, for instance.  For lying awake nights, 
listening for coughs, crys, creaking floorboards, and me coming in too 
late.  You had the eye of an eagle, the roar of a lion, but you always had 
a heart as big as a house.  I owe you for services as a short order cook, 
chef, baker.  For making sirloin out of hamburger, turkey out of tuna 
fish, and two big ol' strappin' boys out of left-overs.  I owe you for 
cleaning services, for the daily scrubbing of face and ears, all work done 
by hand, and for the frequent dusting of a small boy's pants, to try to 
make sure that he led a spotless life. 
     And for washing and ironing no laundry could ever do.  For drying the 
tears of childhood, and for ironing out the problems of growing up.  I owe 
you for service as a body guard.  For protecting me from the terrors of 
thunderstorms and nightmares, and too many green apples.  And, Lord knows, 
I owe you for medical attention.  For nursing me through measles, mumps, 
bruises, bumps, splinters, and spring fever.  
     And let's not forget medical advice, either.  Oh, no!  Important 
things like, "Don't scratch it, or it won't get well!"    "If you cross 
you eyes, they're going to stick like that!"  And probably most important 
of all was "Be sure you got on clean underwear, boy, in case you're in an 
accident."  And, I owe you for veterinarian services.  For feeding every 
lost dog that I dragged home at the end of a rope.  And for healing the 
pains of puppy love.  
     And I owe you for entertainment.  Entertainment that kept the 
household going, during some pretty tough times.  For wonderful 
productions at Christmas, Fourth of July, and birthdays.  And for making 
make-believe come true, on a very limited budget.  I owe you for 
construction work.  For building kites, confidence, hopes and dreams, and 
somehow, you made them all touch the sky.  And for cementing a family 
together, so that it would stand the worst kinds of shocks and blows, and 
for laying down a good, strong foundation to build a life on.  
     I owe you for carrying charges.  For carrying me on your books for 
the necessities of life, that a growing boy's just got to have.  Things 
like, oh, a pair of high topped boots with a little pocket on the side for 
a jack knife.  And one thing, Mom, I will never, ever forget.  When there 
were only two pieces of apple pie left, and three hungry people, I noticed 
that you were the one who suddenly decided that you really didn't like 
apple pie in the first place.  
     These are just a very few of the things for which payment is long 
overdue.  The person I owe them to worked very cheap.  She managed by 
simply doing without a whole lot of things that she needed herself.  My 
IOU's add up to much more than I can ever hope to repay.  But, you know, 
the nicest thing about it all is that I know that she'll mark the entire 
bill paid in full, for just one kiss, and four little words:  Mom, I love 
you.
 
 
 
 Dedicated to my mother, Ida Josephine Beeks Jones
                                  August 24, 1915 - December 23, 1979

                                                    *** Gary Jones  ***

Message: 58705
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gary/mother
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 19:58:40

Thanks for sharing.

Message: 58706
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Thornburg/UGLY
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 20:02:11

        There are some truly ugly, of appearance, people who are very
beautiful.  I think it is called character.  Look at Roy Orbinson, although
you can't any longer but we can still hear him.  -Rod

P.S.  re: sexual thoughts 1000 times a day.   Well dreams count too, you
know.  Have you ever dreamed and remembered about having a sexual encounter?
I think that most normal people have.


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Message: 358
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: ROD
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 05:52:51

Roddy
I
am always
good, and
that
is why
I
am called
GOD, GOD
                     =)) OLD FART RALPH ((=

Message: 359
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: God Ralphy
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 06:42:19

..... and then I will take you to dark places and then I will ...........

               *** CONTINUED IN THE OLD FARTS SIG. ***

Message: 360
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: GOD RALPH
Date: 05/13/89  Time: 12:58:29

        I worshit you.  Praise Ralph!

First name:JAMES
Last name:TARANTO
Send mail to James Taranto:Yes

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 1:        As far as 'force of will' goes, I am about to tell you something 
 2:that I have never told anyone, even Jasmine.  I have this ability where I 
 3:can move things with the force of my mind.  I started out as a kid by 
 4:practicing with light things, like a single sheet of toilet paper.  Of 
 5:course in the early days, a fan helped a lot.  But as the big clock ticked, 
 6:I perfected moving paper objects.  At one point I could move a whole roll of
 7:toliet paper with little effort.  I graduated when I finally moved our house
 8:back on its foundation, last July.  Several times, recently, I had to move my
 9:van into tight parking spaces.  It is becoming easier to do all the time.
10:        The only problem with this is that all the objects I have thus far 
11:'moved' have been solely in my mind.  In fact, once I picture an object, it 
12:is by far harder to keep them motionless, than to watch them move all over 
13:the place.  Perhaps my next goal will be to keep objects in my minds eye 
14:from moving.  That will take lots of practice.
15:
16:By the way, what did you think of my story, besides it being amatuerish, 
17:boring, juvenile, un-connected, dis-associated, and poorly written?  Just 
18:curious.    -Rod
19:
20:        I thought that Dean's story was the best.  It made the most 
21:prophetic point.  Gary's story was well written but it angered me the way he
22:used Ann's character.  Besides his whole point has been a long standing joke
23:that I've heard several times before, although he has talent in the way he 
24:carried it.  Jeannie and Sandy's stories (same person) were, how would you s