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Apollo BBS Archive - May 7 - 10, 1998


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Message: 782
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last two
Date: 05/06/88  Time: 20:33:41

Cold blooded.

Message: 783
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last three
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 09:09:53

The only crime of that dog is - he probably has fleas. Ta ta =*--ANN--*=

Message: 784
Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Question?
Subject: Ann/ dog
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 12:31:08

Ann what's the story behind the picture? Did your dog bite someone?

                                   <<< Joe >>>

Message: 785
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Joe
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 15:38:45

No, Ann bit someone, and they just blamed it on the dog.

Message: 786
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 17:50:45

Then that was a rendition of guilt.

Message: 787
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann's dog
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:01:08

        The dog got the fleas from Ann!

Message: 788
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Joe on dog.
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:17:38

No - he got 'ticks' from Cliff! =*--ANN--*=
P.S. Yes - he supposedly bit someone - it wasn't known for sure, but they
took him in. (sob) Don't you read the BB? I've had all the details of this
sad story there ALL week! It was almost as long as a book. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 789
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Points to Ponder
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:40:51

        Experts are people who know a great deal about very little, who go
along learning more and more about less and less until they know practically
everything about nothing. Lawyers, on the other hand, are people who know
very little about many things and keep learning less and less about more and
more until they know practically nothing about everything. Judges are people
who start out knowing everything about everything but end up knowing nothing
about anything because of their constant association with experts and
lawyers.

After we grow up, we stop believing in Fairy Tales - except those told by
Politicians!

People who are always taking care of their health are like misers hoarding
up a treasure which they never have spirit enough to enjoy.

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Message: 631
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: No where
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 13:50:57

I am closing down this SIG...  it is a waste of space, and is going no
place...   A vic-20 sig would be more active

Message: 632
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: last
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 15:39:08

Oh well.

Message: 633
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Question?
Subject: Is Atari Dead?
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 22:45:10

        I see Compute! Publications is giving up on the Atari ST.
The June/July issue will be their LAST!!!  I have one left....
        Heather (sales Rep) told me there is very little interest in Atari!

Message: 634
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dead?
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 07:34:17

   Like most dead boards, the problem is not exactly one of interest.  The
problem is that most people won't start a brand new topic; they just comment
on the current conversation.  If there's nothing to reply to, you get no
replies.
   So here's a topic:  I ordered the Universal Item Selector, a program
which replaces the original item selector on the ST.  I loved the demo
version and heard great reviews of it, so I ordered it.  The disk arrived
DOA -- it was completely unformatted.  I contacted Mike Linsday (ST-INFORMER
on GEnie) and asked him what to do.  He said to toss the disk and send in
the warranty card.  In the meantime, he would send off a new copy.  Two days
later, the new (and operational) disk arrived.  I am very pleased with it
and with the way I was treated by it's producers.  For $15.95, it's worth
every bit.
 
     /
 /  *  /  Alan
*     *

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Message: 1284
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer !
Subject: Points...
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:44:34

        I get Sandy's points, and that's all I care about...

Message: 1285
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Cliff/points
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:19:20

See how crazy the board gets (re: the point messages)  when you go away?
Don't let it happen again! Ta ta =*--ANN--*=
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Message: 359
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
Subject: Carter
Date: 05/06/88  Time: 23:36:23

I say we 'lop-off his head and use it for a payload!

Message: 360
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 23:15:46

We're not NASA here.  We don't have a large enough engine to lift that much
weight!

Message: 361
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Rockets
Subject: Henderson, NV expl.
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 23:21:13

That rocket engine oxidizer explosion may have an effect on all of us!

I was talking to the owner of Enertek today, and he said that the Department
of Defense may limit or actually exclude all non DOD use of Ammonium
Percholorate rocket engines.  

That plant in Henderson was 50% of the national output.  This will probably
cause all AP rocket engines to go up in price, or to make them unavailable.
(This isn't really aimed at hobbyists, but scientific and other uses of AP
engines.)

Message: 362
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: GT or Bust!
Subject: Rocket GT!
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 23:27:03

This is to remind you that the GT is next Sunday!  I will post a meeting
place by this Monday, where we can meet on the morning (8:30-9:00 am) of the
15th.  I can give about three people a ride if they wish.  I live at about
5th Street and Thomas.  I am going to be leaving at 8:00-8:15 from my house.

The rocket is almost finished.  It just needs a little more epoxying, and
then a paint job in the middle of the week.  Cliff did an excellent job of
cutting out some fiberglas parts for the rocket!  

Cliff or Rod should be able to bring an ice chest, so you can bring your own
drinks, or I'll stock up on drinks this week, and bring them.  If you have
any suggestions, or questions, my phone number is 277-9595.

Message: 363
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Jams/G.T.
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 10:04:36

One small thing - you forgot to mention where it will be. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 364
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:56:08

At your house, obviously!

But seriously, it is probably going to be out West a little (Not as far as
last time!).  We'll probably meet in some dark deserted shopping center some
where, and then caravan out to the launch site.  Much easier than trying to
draw a map of a lot of desert!

Message: 365
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: GT or Bust!
Subject: Location
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 15:31:01

I have firmed up the location of the launch.  It will be at about Bell and
Grand.  (Bell and Dysart road, 123rd ave, I think.)  We are going to just
meet at the launch site, not at a dark deserted shopping center (as
previously reported).  

I will post a map on Tuesday night.  If anyone has any 'small' (under G
engine) rockets they want to launch, make sure and bring them.  We need to
fire some of the small ones first so the cameramen can practice 'tracking'
rockets.

Message: 366
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
Subject: launch
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 17:15:51

What's wrong with meeting at a location other than the launch site? I think
we'll have better luck rounding people up that way. Besides, I'd much rather
wait for everyone to show up while drinking coffee than sit around in the
desert somewhere. I vote for meeting at a Bob's or Denny's.

Also, who exactly has commited to attending? It would be nice to know who we
are waiting for when we get to wherever it is we're going.

Message: 367
Author: $ Michael James
Category: GT or Bust!
Subject: last
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 19:35:06

I'm going, but I'd rather not drive through the desert again if it can be
avoided.  Will there be enough space at the launch site to land a
gyro-plane?
 
Oh, can Mychele go if she makes sandwiches (or something) for everyone?
 

Message: 368
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Nick
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 20:04:08

Sure, we can meet somewhere if you wish.  (I had originally thought that the
directions would be too dificult to post, so that is why I had thought to
meet somewhere other than the launch site.)

But we can't get to the site too late if we want to get everything done
before it gets too hot.  We might be able to bring a tarp and some poles,
so we can have a little shade.

We could meet at the Denny's up by Cliff's (Bell and the freeway, Smitty's
shopping center.) if you want.

Or, there is a Carrows on the other side of the freeway (east side).

Message: 369
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: GT or Bust!
Subject: Head/Nikki
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 20:09:42

I want to state again, that you *don't* have to contribute to come.  Of
course it would be nice if everyone did, but I don't want to exclude anyone
that really wants to come.  If Nikki would make sandwiches, that would be
GREAT!  I could probably give you and Nikki a ride if you want.  I don't
think that there will be that much 'desert' driving though.  Actually this
isn't even a desert area.  It is a large area that has been leveled off for
a future housing project.

Rod is going with me (and his video camera...), so I can take another 3
people max.

Message: 370
Author: $ Dean McCarron
Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
Subject: GT
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 20:43:10

I'll be there, should there be any doubt.
 
Now, just give us some real directions on where to meet, please!
 
Dean

Message: 371
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: GT or Bust!
Subject: Last
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 22:16:33

If we decide to meet at the Denny's, here is the map.
                                    N
                                   W E
                                    S

                
                                |        |
                                |        |
         Black Canyon Fway  --> |        |
                                |        |
29th drive                      |        |
--|-----------------------------|        |----------------------------
                                |        |
                                |        |
--|-----------------------------|        |-----------------------------
                   **Denny's**  |        |
                                |        |
                          ^     |        |
          West Bell Road ^|^    |        |
                          |     |        |
                         
The Denny's is located in a Smitty's shopping center.  And this center is
the location of the old Apollo Computer.

Message: 372
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
Subject: Jams
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 06:40:17

OK - now, what time do we meet? =*--ANN--*=

Message: 373
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 15:40:30

Well it all depends how long we're going to be there...  I'd say that we
need to leave by 8:45-9:00am, so we should get there between 8:15-8:45am.

Message: 374
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
Subject: time?
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 19:58:40

        If it exists, I get up at 10:00 on Sundays....

Message: 375
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 22:34:47

Well you may need to get up earlier if you want to witness the launch!  The
reason we are having it earlier is so that it will not be too hot, and so
that we won't be launching right into the sun.

Message: 376
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Again....
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 23:49:45

Or you could just come later and hope that we haven't launched the big one.
Sound reasonable?

Message: 377
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Crazy Chit-Chat
Subject: (last - 1)
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 10:08:43

I'm in favor of an earlier launch; I'll just stay up all night.
 
Is pastrami and peanut butter and jam OK with everyone?

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Message: 52076
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 05/06/88  Time: 22:46:28

Bow wow!
 
Rev. Beau

Message: 52077
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: Mike Stackpole
Date: 05/06/88  Time: 23:18:56

I still want to know what the heck happened to Wayne West!  Steve MacGregor
won't tell me.

Message: 52078
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: Jams/letter
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 08:52:37

Sorry I don't have that anymore. It was over 14 years ago that I wrote that
into the paper. As I said - I never did figure out why the reacted the way
they did. It was almost as if they didn't want to be faced with the
situation because most of the callers, as far as I could tell, were just
local citizens - not city officials. The letter was just one of complaining
about the abominal conditions and that something should be done. The people
that called mostly denied that the situation existed. Why? I don't know
because I saw it for myself. =*--ANN--*=

Message: 52079
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sorry Redman ---
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 09:08:18

.. but I don't agree. You said you wouldn't want to take a chance even if it
was one in a million --- I'd guess the chances of anyone getting rabies is
one in 100 million! Probablly the same odds as getting it from another
person. Over reaction! This father was brain washed into thinking there was
a real danger here. The government has done a good job again to justify the
money! As far as the dog staying home for those 7 days - what difference
would 7 days make if the dog had rabies? The child would still have the
shots regardless. Instead of the city taking the dog - they could require
the owners, at the end of 7 days to prove the dog had a vet check up and
doesn't have rabies. That's all they are going to do anyway. By the way -
the last time I lived in California - they let you keep the dog in
quarenteen at home! They just found out another scam to get our money by
preying on our fears in Arizona is all. AND - no one is going to take their
dog somewhere else to be tested and if it's positive, not tell anyone! Who's
going to keep a dog around that has been tested positive for rabies? Besides
- I guess I really didn't understand your statement fully?! Also - what has
rabies got to do with a dog licence? They would have let him stay home if he
had one. See you =*--ANN--*=
P.S. If another child bit your child - would you insist that child be tested
for the AIDS virus? 

Message: 52080
Author: Apro Poet
Category: In search of
Subject: Viruses
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 12:46:26

From EDN, April, 28, 1988:

Software Package Inoculates Disks Against Computer Viruses

  After one of its computers became infected with a 
destructive virus program (sometimes called a Trojan horse
program), Sophco Inc (Boulder, CO, (303)444-1542) added an
inoculation module to its $195 Protec software-protection
package for computers running MS-DOS version 3.0 and higher.
An engineer at the company had downloaded a seemingly
innocuous program (an X-rated animated graphics program) 
from an electronic bulletin board to a computer's hard disk.
That program contained an infectious module that installed
delayed-action routines into executable software on the hard
disk.  Later, the routines destroyed the files on the disk.
  Protec version 3.2 can safeguard your programs with a
protective virus program called Vaccinate, which you install
in your executable files with another program called 
Syringe.  The Protec system also includes a decoy program
called Canary that you can use to test suspect software.  
You include Canary on a floppy disk along with the dubious 
software and run the suspect program.  If the Canary program
"dies" after the suspect program finishes, you know there's
a virus program on your disk.  Sophco has also initiated the
Center for Computer Disease Control, which will act as a
clearing house for information about such antisocial 
software. - Steve H. Leibson

Message: 52082
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Dogs
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 14:09:53

  A family down the block from us has a dog that runs loose all the time. It
got ahold of one of our cats and hurt it seriously. When we had the pound
come out after the dog the people hid it and claimed they never had any such
dog. They probably knew that they would have been financially liable for the
damages as well as fines and having the dog taken away. I suspect that they
would have done the same thing if it had been one of our children instead of
a cat, the potental damages would have been much greater. That is why
a dog should be impounded for testing. The possibility of a child having
to undergo rabies testing outweighs seven days inconvenience to the owner
of a dog that bites if you ask me.
  See you later,
     Dean H.

Message: 52083
Author: Craig Johnson
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: WAR FLICKS
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 15:35:39

I THINK YOU FOLKS ARE SLIGHTLY NAIVE COMPARING WWII TO VIETNAM.  WWII WAS
FAR FROM A CLEAN WAR.  THE ALLIES PROBABLY KILLED FAR MORE CIVILIANS DURING
THE BERLIN AIR ATTACKS THAN THE EXAGERATED BODY COUNTS THAT WERE "REPORTED"
IN VIETNAM.  THE MAIN REASON THE PRESS DIDN'T BASH THE IDEA OF THE INVASION
WAS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENTS PROPAGANDA AGENCY SCRUTINIZED REPORTS HEAVILLY.
JUST REMEMBER THE GORE THAT WAS SHOWN US AT DINNER TIME DURING THE TET
OFFENSIVE IN 68 WAS A UNIQUE INSITE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.  THE BACKLASH THE
DEFENSE DEPT. RECIEVED FROM ALLOWING JOURNALISTS TO COVER THESE FRONTLINE
STORIES HAVE CHANGED OUR GOVERNMENTS OPEN POLICY TREMENDOUSLY.  I'D BE
WILLING
TO GUESS YOU'LL NEVER SEE FRONT LINE STORIES LIKE THAT AGAIN IN THE U.S.
PRESS AGAIN.  I ASK YOU IF YOU REMEMBER GRENADA.... YOU DIDN'T SEE ONE
MINUTE OF AMERICAN FOOTAGE TILL AFTER THE ISLAND WAS SECURE.  
H

Message: 52084
Author: Libby Bellitter
Category: For sale
Subject: for sale
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 16:01:38

 1982 phymouth champ 4spd. air, stero(pioneer) runs great , new tires,
asking 1500 or best offer must sell! 392-0025

Message: 52085
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: WWII/Vietnam
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 17:22:48

  In Vietnam U.S. forces sought to keep the enemy's large units away from
populated areas where they could be attacked with maximum firepower without
endangering civilians. This worked to a large extent, but the media's
response was to ridicule operations where remote bases were defended in
order to protect the rest of the country. They made it sound like our troops
were being sacrificed for worthless terrain when they were in fact defeating
the enemy's invading forces overwhelmingly and at a safe distance from the
cities in most cases. If this kind of half-witted and ill-advised reporting
had been allowed in World War Two we would probably have been politically
defeated in spite of military victory there as well.
  See you later,
     Dean H.

Message: 52086
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: In search of
Subject: WAYNE WEST
Date: 05/07/88  Time: 19:57:32

     I knew him.  Something happened to Wayne?

Message: 52087
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: DEan/dogs
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 10:02:36

A dog should never be allowed to roam at will. If a dog bites you and then
disappears, you, by law must report it and take the shots if the dog isn't
found. (Personally, if it bit me and the dog seemed healthy and only bit me
because I tried to pet it or something, then I would not report it! I would
prefer to take my chances than have those awful shots) IF it attacted me or
acted sick - then I would. I just feel that this whole thing is over
reacting to the fear of rabies. My daughter and kids went to visit their dog
yesterday and took him a 'care' package of food and a favorite blanket. On
the way out, they saw this tiny kitten in a cage with a sign that said
"Rabies quaranteen'. My daughter ask a guy working there what the problem
with this kitten was - seems a neighbor kid came over to see the kittens
(invited) - got to playing with it rough and it bit said kid and drew blood.
He ran home bawling and his father came over and said he was going to have
the kitten quarenteened for rabies and he called the authorities. Don't you
think this is a tad bit of over reacting? How could that kitten, that was
only about a month old and still nursing, have contacted rabies? He had
never been out of the house yet! I think all of this is insane. See you
=*--ANN--*=

Message: 52088
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: The SYSOP Speaks
Subject: Montana Vacation
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 12:46:35

        I have just returned from Kalispell (Glacier Park) Montana where I
have been for the past week.  It will take me a few hours here to catch up,
but it looks like every thing worked in my absence.
 
*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 52089
Author: Montana Montana
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: d. j. Lane
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:04:26

Am in Tempe, Az. Call george to find me. What happened to
Stewart? I still love you.

Message: 52090
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Tales & Tall Stories
Subject: Random Memos
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:26:14

  "Persaunt to our telephone converation today I am again
sending a copy of when we first filed it does not have our
filing number on it ... According to our search records by 
the state UCCll you are however already prior filers.  Hope
this helpes you in your projrct." - Written by an assistant
branch manager of a Seattle bank.

  "If you can sleep for eight hours without smoking, I don't
understand why you can't $#!+ for five minutes without 
smoking.  If it doesn't stop, the stall doors will be 
removed." - A Des Moines systems analyst.

  "The cracks in the plastic chair shell were progressive
not catastrophic ... The propagation of the crack will be so
slow that periodic inspections, using the criteria described
in paragraph 3 below, would eliminate unsafe chairs in the
workplace." - A U.S. Navy officer.

  "When asked to 'proof' something whether it is a letter, a
bulletin, something we are printing the follwoing should be
the usual procedure." - A printer in Palisades, Calif.

  "You should to the greatest extent possible strive for
symmetry in your involvement with the business and editorial
staffs as this relates to the level of person you meet with
on a regular, formal basis." - A Washington, D.C., magazine
publisher.

Message: 52092
Author: Apro Poet
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Canine Critics
Date: 05/08/88  Time: 14:49:55

  Last night I was hanging around near a city dump and a 
pack of four dogs came trotting up behind me.  Surprised, my
first reaction was to say, in a chipper voice, "Hi, 
doggies!"  They stopped, turned, then just trotted back to
the dump.  It was a humorous situation but I felt a little
rejected, until I remembered the Evan Mecham mask I was
wearing.

Message: 52093
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Death
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 03:44:10

I've heard that Robert A. Heinlein died yesterday in his sleep.  His death
leaves the world a lot more lonely.  Robert Heinlein wrote some of the best
Science Fiction.  I think his last book was To Sail Beyond the Sunset.  A
fitting title.  Goodbye.

Message: 52094
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dogs
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 07:29:00

   In my case, I had done nothing to to excite the dogs (there were four or
five of them in a pack).  I was walking on the other side of a residential
street, and these dogs came out of an open gate.  They crossed the street
and started following me.  I had heard that running just excites them, so I
just keep walking.  They came up behind me, not acting threatening (no
growling, etc.).  I was saying something to the effect of "nice doggies; go
home, go home" when one of them, a German Sheppard, chomped me in the rear. 
I'm glad I was wearing jeans and not shorts.  As it was, I had to have a
couple stitches and a tetnus shot.  It was eventually quarrantined, and
tested okay.
   BTW, Ann, if an owner discovers that their dog has rabies after it has
bit someone, he probably won't keep it, but he sure as h$ll will do
everything he can to keep this from becomming known, for fear of a suit.
   Maybe you are a responsible owner, Ann, but there are too many people
that consider their dog more important than anyone it might have attacked,
and will do everything they can to cover up for the dog, and yes, even
hide it if it has rabies.
 
     /
 /  *  /  Alan
*     *

Message: 52095
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Politics
Subject: Nancy Reagan
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 07:29:46

   So the Reagans have been consulting astrologers?  Hmmm, that would
explain a lot....
 
     /
 /  *  /  Alan
*     *

Message: 52096
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: More on dogs
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 07:32:01

   I have heard from several people, that the Maricopa County pound has
better conditions than the Humane Society shelter has, and has a better
record of placing pets as opposed to killing them.  I have no way to verify
this, myself.  Comments?
 
     /
 /  *  /  Alan
*     *

Message: 52097
Author: Apro Poet
Category: News Today
Subject: Arresting Stats
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 17:33:15

From USA Today:
  The number of inmates in state and federal prisons
increased by 76.3 percent between 1980 and 1987, says a
recent Justice Department report.
  Of the states with the largest increases in prison 
populations between 1980 and 1987, Arizona ranks 6th at 
142.2%.
  Of the states with the highest number of prisoners per
capita, Arizona ranks 7th at 307 per 100,000 residents.
  Arizona has 10,948 state and federal prisoners, an 
increase of 16% since 1986.

Message: 52098
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Answer!
Subject: last
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 17:50:00

Judging from those statistics, by the year 2004 the law abiding citizens
will number less than 1% and if so, I'm sure 'Mobsters' would have long
ago imprisoned the good and set the bad free.
 
So much for numbers.

Message: 52099
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Tom Leykis KFYI
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:33:40

        First off.... Guns have nothing to do with drugs...
A plane full of people carring 'HAND-GUNs' is less likely to get hi-jacked.
(Have you knoticed where these big crimes against the public happen.... Yes,
where hand-guns are banned!
        A plane full of people on drugs would just say "Like WoW" and then
OD.  
        A hand gun can give you a fighting chance and being on drugs you
would have no chance.   
        Yes, there are idiots with guns that shoot road signs...  there are
idiots that drive cars that run over people too, so do you think Tom will
want a ban on cars?  After all, more people die from cars than from guns in
this country.
        I own a machine shop as well as a computer store.  The point here is
I can make a gun and even the ammo...  I could even do a one time plastic
gun if I wanted too (single shot then toss).
        And LAST....
        Geesh, the cross from the ground means "DEATH" and was the death
sign long before Christ.  I have seen them on the way to Vegas, and not once
did I think it ment Christian...  Now if they were neat little "Scull an
Cross Bones" I would pick up a few of them (steal it) and so would many
people.  No one will bother with two crossed sticks...eccept a funny Mormon.
If they were just plain sticks... I would not knotice them along with all
the other sticks along the road.  The Star of David is the Dodge Brothers
emblem, but a youngster like Tom would not know that.

Message: 52100
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Tom Leykis KFYI
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:43:19

        Welcome back, even if I do not agree with your ideas.
        I see that freedom of speech is only affordable to the rich
and powerful.
        
        Good Luck, and I hope it works out for you.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 52101
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: dogs
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 05:50:25

Most dog owners are at least fairly responsible citizens, who care for their
pets and do not allow them to run loose for any reason.
With one exception, all dogs that are running loose should be caught and
contained for a period of time, and the owner fined. Dogs running loose ona
a continual basis should be shot and the owner hel responsible for the cost
of disposition of the body. 
The exception is pit bulls, all of which should be shot on sight, contained
or not. There is absolutely no reason whi even one of those killing machines
should be allowed to exist.

Message: 52102
Author: Mike Stackpole
Category: Answer!
Subject: Wayne West
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 06:29:54

As nearly as I know nothing has happened to Wayne West.  I've not spoken
with him for a couple of months, but I've not heard from others that
anything has happened to him.  I'll try to find his phone number and call
him.  Let you know what happens.

Message: 52103
Author: Mike Stackpole
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Astrology debate
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 06:34:15

Steve,
  Terry Warneke and I did discuss the random distribution of people in a
category by "sun sign."  I had brought with me an analysis of all Presidents
nd Vice Presidents of the United States and found the distribution, for both
tropical and sidereal zodiacs, to be random.  Off the air Terry said that
did not surprise him, but that, in other aspects, I would see the men were
very much alike.
  In the debate I would have to say I came out on the losing end, but I did
manage to get him to say "I don't know what makes it work."  The other high
point, excepting the places where I had the hostess laughing to the point
where she had to cover her mouth, I also got Warneke to say life begins with
the first breath, then I asked how non living entities could be effected by
the stars...
Mike

Message: 52104
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Alan/dogs
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:10:56

Yeah - you are right. Unfortunately, a lot of people arn't responsible for
their dogs and let them roam. That REALLY sounded like a scarey situation
for you and I guess you were lucky it wasn't worse. When we lived in Taylor
- up in the White Mountains - no one kept their dogs at home - guess because
it was ranch land - lots of wide open spaces - but the dogs would form packs
and roam the ranches, killing sheep, calves and chickens. Even one of my
little darlings joined the pack and I could not do a thing about it because
he never came back so we could tie him up - but we saw him everyday. Think
some rancher shot him eventually! This dog was raised as a pampered pet too
and had spent his life in the house & a fenced yard. I really feared these
packs - they had no record of attacking people, but when they came even
close to the property, I went into the house until they were gone even
though my baby was one of them. 
I hope that what you said about the Pound vs the Humane Society being better
is true. See you =*--ANN--*=

Message: 52105
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: On Drugs
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:13:13

I think it's time, that as a nation, we start thinking about legalizing
drugs! =*--ANN--*=

Message: 52106
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Answer!
Subject: LAST
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 10:24:39

     Any drugs in particular?
     Should these drugs be available at the local Circle-K, or by
prescription, or...?

Bulletin Board command:EC

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 1:        Legalize marijuana, all you need for a years supply is a couple of 
 2:seeds and a big pot.
 3:                                Rod

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Message: 1332
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: The SYSOP Speaks
Subject: Mark
Date: 05/09/88  Time: 20:51:35

        I think we lost Mark Adkins because a joke got out of hand...
I am very dissapointed in the people involved.  
        Generaly I like to think of Apollo as making good friends...
not lossing friends....  think before you pull a prank!

Cliff "das"

Message: 1333
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/Mark
Date: 05/10/88  Time: 09:23:22

Boy, did I miss something or what? What joke? What prank? Marks gone? Let me
know what's going on. Surely this is a joke right? We can't lose Mark.
=*--ANN--*=

First name:PETER
Last name:CERVELLI
Send mail to Peter Cervelli:Yes

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 1:        I heard your call to KFYI yesterday (5/9), on the Tom Leykis show 
 2:but I didn't know your name was James.
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