Apollo BBS Archive - March 1990

Apollo BBS Archive - March 22, 1990

Mail from Zak Woodruff
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 15:08:11

Why are Hawley, you and I no longer Cliff's friends?  Because we argued with
him on the system?  How absurd.

Cliff's story about how he tricked you into logging in as yourself is so
much baloney.  
 
Well, go get em tiger.
[A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

Enter a line containing only an [*] to stop
 1:I think it is funny and I am taking it all in a good, mellow spirit.
 2:
 3:I think Cliff has the potential, just as we all do, to grow up from 
 4:happenings such as this.  At least that is my design.
 5:
 6:I don't like to shuck anything away.  I learned a long while (notice I 
 7:didn't use the word  *TIME*) ago that an ally is an ally and an enemy is an 
 8:enemy.  I don't like the latter because I don't want to use the space in my 
 9:mind.  I have better uses for it.
10:
11:Hey, do you know what the gays in bars are saying to one another these days?
12:
13:"Want me to push up your stool."
14:
15:How fucking gross, eh?
16:
17:Zee you Zakky.....
18:
19:P.S.  Paul is the one I worry about because that dude hasn't bent an inch 
20:but from his messages we may have him worried.  At least I hope so, eh!
21:
22:Rod

Message: 64053
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Zak
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 01:39:31

I'm too tired this evening to answer your posts.  Give me some more Slack.
Thanks.

By the way, I found Dean's posts on Steiger *VERY* interesting especially
where it concerned our debate on the same issue.  Although I was sorely
disappointed that he did not mention the *Alpha-Beta Mind Vacuum*.  Drats!

Your friend, Rod

Message: 64054
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: spunk
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 05:02:47

I think that sort of thing should be confined to the COS sig, Roger.

Message: 64055
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff on Roger
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 05:03:46

He is (one of those anti-gun nuts).  

Message: 64056
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Pool law
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 06:03:42

 The Phoenix City Council, in all their usual wisdom, passed a "let's please
everyone" ordinance that states that everyone with a pool and children under
6 "must" have a fence around the pool and/or (I forget which) a self
latching door leading from the house to the pool. Then they conveniently
forgot to put any teeth into the "law". Seems to me that a law without
prescribed penalties is as good as no law at all. "Put that fence up, or
else!" Or else what?

Message: 64057
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bobby/new pool law
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 07:14:41

Re: "Is that a Phoenix law, or state law or what?"
 
To be honest, I don't know. In this morning's paper something was said
indicating it was just a Phoenix (Maricopa county?) law. If it said it the
paper yesterday, I missed it. Today the article is more detailed and just
as ridiculous. For one thing, I question how this can be inforced. Neighbors
would have to rat on each other and we already have enough of that stuff. It
also said you did not need to put up a fence, but could have a self-closing,
self-latching doors and windows - leading from the home to the pool and also
a motorized pool cover. The crazy part of this is that the fence in most
cases would be cheaper to install! This is for families with kids under 6.
But if a kid of that age even visits you, you must errect a barrier while
they are there. Of course, all new pools built after May will require fences
from now on. The article made snide remark that people will order and build
their pools before that dead line so they are exempt. This stupid law is so
blatantly taking away people's rights it isn't funny and we all let it
happen! All because Phoenix had 26 drownings last year. Considering how many
pools are in this city, I do not think that figure is high at all. Besides,
that is besides the point. It's people's carelessness that lets this happen.
Now, everyone is punished. BTW - the fine will be $2,500!!! They liken this
new law to the aspirin safty caps that went into effect in 1972 - went on to
say "deaths among children have been reduced by 95% due to the safty caps!"
This is just another false statistic in my book. It doesn't say what the
figures are to begin with.

... If 10 kids get into aspirin and die in one year and the next, only
one dies from doing the same thing, isn't that 90%??? I want to know JUST
how many before they start putting something like safty caps on EVERYTHING.
And speaking of that - how many kids get under the sink each year and drink
lethal stuff? Are we going to have safty caps on everything? It's the adults
responsibility, not the populace! What's next? We can't be protected from
everything. It isn't the government's right to force us to protect
ourselves. There is no limit to how far they will go - or the minority
groups that get things like this passed. Why couldn't the people of Phoenix
vote on this? There was more opposition than there was for it you know. 
Questions: Who's going to watch people to see that they keep their
self-latching doors latched? Or the pool gate closed? Or force a grandma to
errect the fence before their under 6 year old grand kid comes visit? A pool
is not any more of a lethal weapon than a car, or a gun or a bottle of
bleach. I say the people of Phoenix are pretty good about watching their
children because we've only had 26 drownings considering how many pools we
have here. This safty thing is getting out of hand. -=*) ANN (*=-
P.S. I haven't even mentioned all the city owned canals that are unfenced in
this city either! How about all the lakes? Lake Pleasant last year had
several drowings. Are they going to fence that too?

Message: 64059
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger on Rod
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 07:33:54

He gets spunkier! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 64060
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger on pool fence
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 07:41:15

I can see it now - letting criminals out so they can make room for the
terrible people that did not fence their pools or put self-latching doors
and windows in their homes. 
 
A guy robs a bank - gets a good lawyer and is slapped on the wrist by the
judge and gets parole for his crime. A 65 year old grandma get slapped with
a $2,500 fine and or 6 months in jail because her neighbor looks over the
fence and sees no fence and knows the woman's 6 year old grandkid is
visiting - they report it to the Authorities and the little old grandma goes
to jail, handcuffed and humiliated! Wouldn't make a bit of difference either
if that neighbor saw the grandma watching the kid . After all, she's
braking the law. Right? So report her!
 
You could replace that word 'Authorities' with 'Gustapo' too! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 64061
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter P.
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 08:49:42

        Ahhhhh, It was 'cloaked', but it was always there.  I also did not
mean to imply you were the one who hinted that I had kicked of Mr Williams.

        If you ask me, my ploy to get him to log in as himself did work. A
half year being nice to him, sending him a card, etc., did not bring any
results.  Mr Williams needed a reason, and that was to answer a challenge.
The 'cloaking' of his password, so his friends would say "Gee Rod, looks
like that idiot Sysop Cliffy zapped your $tatus since I can't see you in the
hite pages" along with some verbal insults would bring him out of the
wood work so to say. His story was never Zapped either, just re-named to
make it looked zapped.

        Don't all thank me at once.

        I am still tiffed at him for not bringing his problem with me to my
attention sooner.  Even with all my 'Big Guns' (tm)Zak , I don't BITE!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 64062
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 10:07:30

You sly dog!

Message: 64063
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 11:03:40

Re:  "All because Phoenix had 26 drownings last year."

I wonder how many died from car accidents?  I wonder how many died from
other preventable causes?  I wonder why the officials are just concerned
about pool death enough or make the fence law?  Our government is crazy.

Message: 64064
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last on Drownings
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 11:32:28

        As I understand this, one drowned in a bathtub and a few were
adults.  
        Sandy and I were considering getting a pool... No way now!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 64065
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff on guns
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 12:46:17

No, I'd just settle for a cease-fire instead of the asinine law they
want to pass allowing concealed weapons (let's draw, parder !).

Message: 64066
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: jeff's spunk
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 12:48:10

One man's spunk is another man's perversion, I suppose.

Message: 64067
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Answer!
Subject: jeff on roger
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 12:52:22

I'm insulted. I think I will henceforth skip all posts written
by gun nuts. Notice to all gun nuts: Henceforth all posts written
with a pro-gun bias should be marked clearly in the subject line
as "gun drivel"--- that way I can skip my way merrily past
the pro-gun messages directly into the Anti-Rod flames. Anti-Rod,
get it ? Ho Ho Ho Ho. Heh.

Message: 64068
Author: Robert Simpson
Category: On the Lighter Side
Subject: 64034/Beau
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 15:54:28

Take that battery off your shoulder.  You're not Robert Conrad.

Message: 64069
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Gun Drivel
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 16:43:45

  There is only one class of people who are prevented from going armed by a
law against concealed weapons. It isn't criminals, or scofflaws, since they
ingore such laws anyway. Only those who respect the law are affected by a
concealed weapon ban, and they would tend to subtract from, rather than add
to, the level of violence if they chose to go armed.
  Since people who believe in the right to keep and bear arms are referred
to as 'gun nuts' by those who would infringe that right, it should be easy
for just about anyone to come up with a logical and overwhelmingly
persuasive argument which annihilates the pro-gun position. After all, they
are only 'nuts'. Lets hear some of those arguments.
  See You Later,
    Dean H.

Message: 64070
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger on concealed
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 17:49:13

        In states where it is allowed, there is no high rate of crime or
shootings.  Had someone at the MacDonalds in Calif that had that massive
shooting a few years back, had a CONCEALED weapon, he may have been able to
stop it before as many got killed as did.  Had this same person had it in
view, he would have been the FIRST target.
        Gee Roger, I had thought you were smarter then that.   Why do you
think concealed is bad?   Police that have their weapons in view, get shot
by their own guns, where as the people who have concealed weapons very
seldom get shot with their own guns.   
        I am going to apply for a concealed permit if the law passes. 
However, I carry a concealed weapon now as many other people do.  Is my life
worth more then a $150.00 fine?  You bet your 'asinine' law it is!
        Did you know the more one is trained on the use of a weapon, the
less likely he is to use it?  It's the idiot who thinks he knows how to
shoot without training that one need fear.  This concealed law will require
that one has recieved training.  USMA where Sandy works as a weapons
instructer will offer such a class for that certificate.  This will make
people who carry one now that have never had training go get some training.
The class includes a fact filled lecture on law.   Why don't you come out
with me the next time they have a basic handgun & law class?  It only costs
$25.00 and maybe you will learn something. This class is once a month on a
Saturday.
        Anyone want a "Apollo Shootout GT", where I will let you fire
with guidance, a hand gun and assault rifle?  The weather is nice!! (-:}

Message: 64071
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
Subject: David Burkhart
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 18:00:35

        See post 6154 in the $tatus SIG for more info.  He is in town and
wants to say hi to his friends at a GT mostlikely Friday night.  If you are
interested, let me know!   David does not have his computer here with him,
so he can't get on.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 64072
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Answer!
Subject: Roger
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 21:57:19

Roger, the type of person who would commit murder or aggravated assault
would hardly balk at carrying a concealed weapon.  On the other hand, the
average citizen is daunted by the prospect of carrying a six-shooter
strapped to his/her hip in plain sight, because of the way people react.  I
think that women especially should support the proposal to allow the
carrying of concealed firearms by qualified citizens: a gun in the purse and
the know how to use it is worth more than all the Ti-Chi lessons in the
world.  But I think men should support the law too.  The fact that most
shootings are the result of "unmeditated" passions changes nothing; people
who are ready to shoot someone on that basis are already either carrying
concealed, or are willing to go to their vehicle or home to get the weapon,
where again, it isn't visible.  Furthermore, in such acts, the gun is
usually concealed until just before the commission of the crime.  
Of course, if someone holding a gun in their hand ambushes you, you are
probably not going to be able to make use of a concealed weapon.  That does
not make them uniformly useless in other scenarios.

Message: 64073
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff/GT
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 22:00:21

I'm game (no pun intended).

Message: 64074
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jeff Beck
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 22:38:39

Re: "If someone holding a gun in their hand ambushes you, you are probabley
not going to be able to make use of a concealed weapon."

        It is a fact, unless well trained, many people from even only a few
feet away will miss their mark.  Even a hit does not mean you can't return
fire.  In the business, there is also the term "The Dead Man's five
seconds", where men that were basicly dead... kill their overconfident
opponent in that five second period. 
        In the U.S.M.A. school, we are trained as to which way to side step,
by just looking at the way the other person is holding their weapon.
Varibles include if the person is right or left handed, if he is using one
hand or two hands to hold the weapon.   Film of people robbing Circle-Ks or
Banks, etc., have shown most criminals use ONE hand...  This tends to give
poor accuracy.

        But Jeff is right, you should see the looks we get when Sandy and I
are wearing our holsterd 4inch barrel 357 wheel guns.  Frankly, I don't like
to make people nervous.  There is a trick however, I can just clip my set of
handcuffs to my belt, and everyone then is not nervous... they think you are
somehow related to the police or some agency.  This is perfectly legal as
long as you don't verbally CLAIM to be a police officer.  Yes, anyone can
carry handcuffs, and we are trained in the use of cuffs as well.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 64075
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
Subject: The LAST GT
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 22:40:18

        'The LAST Burkhart GT' will be held at his house.  See the $TAtus
SIG for Phone number and more info.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 64076
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:25:04



Now, how do we get Warren Harris and Mark Adkins back on?

Message: 64077
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dean Hathaway
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:26:01

Okay Dean, you stated that my 'brain-drain' concept was ridiculous or
something to that effect.  I'd like to take this opportunity to further
explain my post in order to see if your view changes.

First of all I pointed out that a futuristic society had such a device,
not those of the near future.  If that were the case then I would have to
agree with you.  An instrument such as that in the hands of present day
humans would be just as scary as the Atom Bomb.

When I said 'futuristic' I meant, but did not make myself clear, that by
the time such technology came into being the humans of this planet would be
intelligent enough to use it.

I also pointed out, but did little explaining, that the person it was used
on had killed a bank guard.  What I meant to explain was that the device
would be used in place of the death penalty or long term confinement.

For instance, if we now had such technology as well as the intelligence
and were to use it on Charles Manson then think of the overall benefits.
The entire population would benefit from the savings of his continued keep.
Manson would benefit from not being kept in a cell like an animal all his
life.

He would still have the same body and DNA structure but would have, so to
speak, a clear mind.  Professionals, as I pointed out, would retrain him
into a good citizen from his baby state.  It would be like starting fresh
and his character would not be lost, only his previously rotton
experiences.

He could then repay society by paying his own way in this life rather than
the way it now stands.  He wouldn't be a vegetable either, he would still
have his own will and would be able to recognize an injustice.

The technology I describe could perhaps free up space in mental hospitals
as well.  There should be no reason for any animal to be kept day after
day, year after year in a cell whether they be insane or a mass murderer.

One way or another, no big deal.  I am not wrapped up in this topic, I only
mentioned it in passing but read your comments and now I am trying to clear
myself.  What say ye?  Could it work?

Message: 64079
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Zak
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:27:39

Zak, this is in answer to your message # 64004.  It is my understanding
that different atomic structures are compounds of the one basic element.
This element is the one I speak of.  Everything can be boiled down to this
one substance.  And even if that were not so then I still say that all
particles in this one universe are related AND equal.  There is not any one
compound that is superior to another.

Yes, I have ideas about Utopia.  I like to daydream and even though man
has the immediate potential to bring about a planet to be proud of, I don't
expect it to happen any time soon.

We, at this time, lack the necessary intelligence to cause it to happen.
When we do awaken from our long sleep, so to speak, then a system, other
than channels of information and lines of supply will no longer be needed. 
My Utopia can only happen when humans recognize each other as related and
equal.

If one were to design a 'perfect' system, one that is fair for all living
things then implement that system....well....simply put it would not
work.  There would still be the greed mongers, the haters, malcontents and
bullies to name a few.

Our minds must reach that point in evolution where the up-hill struggle is
leveling out onto a flatter surface.  This will probably take decades or
even centuries but can be hastened by the continual planting of seeds that
will later bloom into  beautiful flowers.

Many men have done it in the past and many more will rise up and continue
the process.  Samuel Clemmons is one person who comes to my mind as he had
great influence on me.  But, as you know, there are many, many others.
There may even be some who are Apollo users this very day....you know who
you are.

This message is getting long so I will answer your comment about the
'punishment' question later.

Message: 64081
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Answer!
Subject: Zak/punishment
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:29:04

Okay, let's clarify this punishment discussion.  I will agree with you
that punishment is necessary if you will agree that only constructive
punishment be used.

There is one view that punishment should be doled out to fit the crime.
That is punishment for punishment sake.  That type is what I referred to
when I said used the term 'hard of heart'.

There is another type of punishment that is designed to bring about change
for the better in the individual and not just toss them away like a rag
afterwards.

If you punish your child with the former variety then you will notice that
you have embittered that person for years to come.  You will have lost
their respect and now you will have a true problem child on your hands.
This person then goes out into the world with a serious emotional problem
that will eventually affect others.

But a punishment where the person is treated as a potentially creative and
capable person would not strip away their remaining dignity.  A punishment
of the variety where the person is trained in or takes part in their own
cure is what I speak of.  I believe a prison farm/community (as previously
stated) is the best answer at this time.  Not everyone would actually farm
if they could not but would operate the prison computer network, prison
paper, do various other jobs that will sustain and support the population.

No one is all evil just as no one is all good.  Besides I still contend
that is most all cases the real criminal is not the convict but either the
parent, the teacher or the system itself.    -Rod

DOG, God, & "Bob" Bulletin Board command:$C

Message: 1124
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Jeff/last
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 07:49:00

No! It was just a great pix of Dee Synider is all his glory. No false heads
like the did to Omphra (sp?) -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 1125
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 14:34:55

     I was reading an article on the rising re-use of electro-shock therapy.
They claim it causes temporary increases in IQ.  That's why I like to suck
on 9-volt batteries while studying for tests.
 
     Cliff was right.  You are a chauvinist.  Women are not just good for
cooking and sex.  Women are good for cooking, sex, and careers.  In the
Soviet Union now, women are expected to have careers and be mothers, while
the role of men has not changed much.  In other words, women are expected to
do an even bigger load of work.  One would think it was some sort of
feminist victory, but it's just the opposite.
      I am going to assume that you are entirely joking about what women are
good for.  But I wonder if deep down, you aren't just a teenage skirt-chaser
at heart.  Is that why you go to the gallery?  Hmmm?

      The Ronco punishment kit would be good, but I think the best method of
punishment for kids is 'time out'.  Make them go to their room and lie in
bed and go to sleep.  Inactivity as a form of punishment - how perfect. 
Actually, time out is the best form of punishment for kids, and is
recommended in most parental resource books.  The only problem is when kids
reach the age where they have TVs, VCRs, stereos and telephones in their
room.

Message: 1126
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann on Dee Snyder
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 14:36:15

     Are you suggesting that I, Zak Woodruff, get my jollies from looking at
that poster of Dee Snyder and doing other unsavory things?  HELL NOT!  I am
deeply offended.  I much prefer the members of Poison to Dee's ugly puss.

Message: 1127
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Zak/last
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 15:27:17

One man's Poison is another man's Fish... heads, fish heads, roly poly fish
heads.

Message: 1128
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 15:27:49

So, are you back for good?  Should we get the name of this SIG changed
(back?)

Message: 1129
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann/Punishment
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 16:23:15

  Isn't it hard enough to get children to go to bed when they need sleep
without conditioning them to see their bed as a form of punishment?
  See You Later,
    Dean H.

Message: 1130
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Dog Shit!!!
Subject: Beau
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:36:15

This is your SIG and you earned it.  I wouldn't like it any other way.  The
spotlight scares me, anyway.

Besides, The Dog Shit category wouldn't look right on the old RGB SIG but it
sure fits here....har, har.

Thank you, to be sure but no thanks....it looks better on you.

See you at the Gallery, eh!

Message: 1131
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: T & A
Subject: Zak
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:43:35

Man, at the Gallery, every time I go there are these chicks in black body
dresses that just blows my mind.  I always fall in love but hey, remember, I
love everyone.

Jasmine knows I fall in love as she openly talks about it but hey, the love
is Platonic.  I have no need to be involved with new relationships of that
nature as I have five daughters and, who knows, perhaps another on the way.

Zee you at the Gallery, too.    -Rod

P.S.  Didn't Nick look really great in his all black, designer outfit.  His
buns as well as his stomach muscles looked terrific.  Too bad some of the
people who said they were going to Peter's didn't show up, eh?

The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

Message: 3628
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 05:09:29

Keep that man away from my bagpipes.

Message: 3629
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod on screwing
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 07:47:52

I once put a dress on my Cockatoo! Does that arouse you? *Heh
                           -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 3630
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer !
Subject: Rod
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 09:17:16

No wonder I always wear pants...

Message: 3631
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Jeff
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 09:18:05

When I finish the story you can buy a copy and answer the questions
yourself.

Message: 3632
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 21:36:33

        Is that why I always find the women's apparel in such a disorganized
mess at JC Penneys?
        Next time I am there I am going to ask one of the sales clerks, if
they have come out of hiding, if a tall, skinny, ruffly haired, long beard,
sinisterly eyebrowed, man has been there.

Message: 3633
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Melissa
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 22:03:34

If you'd rather not say, I understand.
 
(Such modesty from a girl who fancies chop-sticks up the twat)

Message: 3634
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Ann/answer
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:46:23

I thought of putting a dress on my cock, too, but changed my mind.  Hope
this answers your questions.

Message: 3635
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Sandy
Date: 03/22/90  Time: 23:47:37

I trimmed my beard.