Apollo BBS Archive - March 17, 1989


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Mail from Sandy SYSOP
Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:49:52

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        Please take time out to call our Congressmen.
What is happening on the Federal Leval at the moment is VERY scary.
Tell (make) your friends call as well.

        Thanx,
                        Sandy SySop
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 1:        I would rather write.  Do you, by any chance, have an address?  
 2:Thanks for the concern.  I share it as well.  A nation where the citizens 
 3:are not permitted to have guns is a vunerable one, not only from within but 
 4:from without.  Scary.
 5:                                        Rod
 6:P.S.  Say hi to Cliffy.  I've been burnt out on this system many times in 
 7:the past.  A vacation was the only cure.
 8:end

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Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 04:18:00

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I think he's gone from gambling to drug smuggling.
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 1:James Hawley got in last night.  Not once was he or his mom checked for 
 2:drugs.  Wanna buy a kilo of coke?
 3:        James has a Taurus.  Cliff has it though as he wanted it in order to
 4:check the reloads that he is no longer doing.
 5:        I have been on under a host of names.  I am Zelda, David Roe, 
 6:Mildred, and a few more.  Kinda fun.  Have you been on recently under 
 7:another name?           -Rod
 8:        
 9:P.S.  Good debate on drugs and guns.  Paul seems about the same as he is on 
10:religion, not giving an inch.  I logged onto the ASU Library computer last 
11:night and pulled off the drug data for uploading this AM.   I have tons of 
12:information, about 150K worth.  Interesting shit.
13:end

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Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 04:19:46

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Kinda like when King Kong was holding Jessica Lange in his hand, huh?
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 1:        I am pretty tired right now.  What does King Kong and Jessica Lange 
 2:mean.  I must have forgotten something or other.
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Message: 5312
Author: $ Cliff Winters
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Sulking?
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 01:38:37

        Not me....  I thought I posted that No Reloads rather nice... Plain
and to the point....  Looks like you guys want the facts!
Okay, Fact one...  The reloader is not mine!  It belongs to Sandy.
      Fact two...  Sandy said it would be a BAD idea to do reloads for other
people without having a good disclaimer for such things as Phantom Loads and
High Primers...etc.   I did not give that much thought till she pointed out
some legal nightmares I could get myself into.
       Fact three.  I was doing it more for FUN as the profit in such a
venture was almost nill.   I also don't have the time I had a few months
back and I do not need the money at all.

        Sulk....NOT ME!   Burnt out on BBSing... Yes!   But I still like you
guys and I am pleased Sandy is doing a better job than I and as Paul said...
"Who needs Cliff".

P.S.  I have NO SYSOP powers under this name...  Neet being a mortal.

        Cliff Winters 

Message: 5313
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 07:07:12

I do not agree with Paul - 'I need sysop Cliff'! Love you both, but you are
the Mighty Sysop to me! She is doing a good job, but to coin an old saying
---- 'Two heads are better than one' - anyday! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 5314
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Question?
Subject: Mortal Cliff
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 08:52:10

        Do you have to pay an annual $tatus fee?
 
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Message: 5315
Author: $ Cliff Winters
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last...
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 18:02:31

        Errr, YES!  I pay the fee EVERY month to Ma-Bell or what ever she
calls herself now days.  I have paid more than any of you... and I keep
paying.  Giving up SYSOPing did not get rid of the Bill!

        I can't bare to read anymore then the PUB board and this SIG and I
am already tired.  I will leave it to SANDY to fill me in on the rest....
on a need to know basis.  There is life after Apollo by the way.

Cliff Winters, retired sysopy

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Message: 57620
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Question?
Subject: Guns
Date: 03/16/89  Time: 21:48:31

        Have you called your Congressman lately?
        Now is the time to voice your opinion.
                    Remember .....
        When a government fears arms in the hands
        of the people, it is time for the people
        to fear its government.

        GET YOUR OPINION REGISTERED, NOW!

SB386: Sen. DeConcini    261-6756
       Sen. McCain       241-2567
HR669: Rep. Kyle         840-1891
       Rep. Rhodes       831-6433
       Rep. Stump        261-6923

Message: 57621
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Last
Date: 03/16/89  Time: 22:11:55

  Why don't you list Udall's number? The rest of those guys are fairly
reliable pro-gun legislators as it is, its Udall that needs to be reminded
where he lives and who his constituents are once in a while. He does vote
pro-gun sometimes, and it would be a good idea to try and influence him that
way this time.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 57622
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Drug News
Date: 03/16/89  Time: 22:13:03

Sensible News: The government finally admits that it cannot prevent people
               from using drugs by arresting smugglers and dealers because
               there are just too many of them. The huge demand causes new
               sources of supply to pop up faster than they can react, and
               prices continue to drop as supply gets better and better.
                  
   Silly News: Now the government says it can prevent people from using
               drugs by going after the 'users' themselves. You know, the
               'users', those folks who are so determined and large in
               number that they were able to finance the winning side of
               the 'War On Drugs' (even though the losing side was taxing
               everyone in the country).

  Future News: The government finally admitted that going after 'users'
               was a big mistake. Public respect for the law has been
               practically wiped out, the justice system's ability to deal
               with real criminals is diluted even further, and drug use
               has become harder to detect due to changes in the ways drugs
               are packaged and used. The government now says that it must
               crack down on the drug smugglers and dealers instead because;
               they are much fewer in number, they are easier to spot, and
               they are not as hard to convict since juries won't identify
               with them so much. And around we go again.........

Message: 57623
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Taranto/Drugs
Date: 03/16/89  Time: 22:14:52

   You ended your message with, "Any effective anti-drug strategy must
 emphasize that users are accountable for their actions and are not
 innocent victims of the drug dealers."
   If you took this admirable attitude a little further couldn't you say
 that anti-drug crusaders are accountable for their actions and are not
 innocent victims of the drug users? It is essentially the crusader's
 demands that others live according to their rules which make drug use
 such a serious problem in the first place. Nearly every major problem
 associated with illegal drugs stems from that illegality, rather than
 from the drugs themselves.
   Nobody dies in gun battles over supplies or distribution rights for
 alcohol anymore. Nobody has to risk death by consuming alcohol of unknown
 strength or quality anymore. Nobody has to live in a neighborhood where 
 alcohol sellers encourage underage people to start drinking anymore.
 No longer does anyone have to live under the thumb of an alcohol crime
 syndicate or the corruption of police and the courts which they created.
 All these problems and more still exist with regard to drug use, simply
 because of the crusaders' lust for the power to control others.
   Yes, let us hold users 'accountable for their actions'. If they choose
 to partake of some substance or other and harm no other person, then
 let us not hunt and trap them like murders for it. Let us hold them
 accountable for any harm which they actually do, but not for bruising
 the crusaders' egos by ignoring them.
   See You Later,    Dean H.

Message: 57624
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Capt. Freedom
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 00:00:33

Bob has lung cancer.
 
Some deity.

Message: 57625
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 57612/James
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 00:05:28

James, cocaine is ingested for one purpose, and one purpose only. Some may
claim that it helps their productivity at work, or makes them more alert,
but that is all bullpuckies. Being that cocaine is consumed solely for the
purpose of altering the regular functions of the mind and body, I would have
to say that NO, cocaine is NOT fine consumed in ANY amount.

Message: 57626
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat

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 1:        Now, now, Daryl.  Bob doesn't have lung cancer, Bob is dead.  He was
 2:knocked off in San Francisco some years back.  But I think he came back from
 3:the dead to haunt us.  Bob is quite some guy.  -Rod
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Message: 57626
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Opinions Vs. Fact
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 00:11:52

It is so easy to say in an argument, "well, yes they did create wine solely
for the purpose of getting drunk" or "marujuana[SIC], hash-hish[SIC] and
heroin, peyote and mushrooms as well as alcohol" were as common in Biblical
times as they are now, without providing one scintilla of evidence. However,
to someone who is determined to cut through the pea-soup foggy-mindedness of
"opinions-stated-as-fact" argumentation, it isn't worth a burnt corn
tortilla. Especially when such "opinionated facts" come from the same source
that attempts to state that Christ was a homosexual with a penis fixation.
 
[A general post directed at no one in particular]

Message: 57627
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Silence Be Broken
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 00:28:06

I said I would not continue this discussion with you. Well it's hard not to
when you claim to knock on my head and find nobody home. Well, Roddy ol'
pal, sorry to burst your bubble, but I did make the mistake of trying
marijuana once (at the urging of an older sister). Luckily, it produced no
effect upon me at all (with the exception of a nagging headache), and I have
never laid hands upon a single narcotic drug since. Here's a question for
ya, Rod. What would be the benefits of making narcotic drugs legal? We're
talking individual benefit as a citizen, not profit-wise. In a situation
such as this you have to weigh the good against the bad. What restrictions
would be imposed upon the places in which you could toke/shoot up/snort?
Would these narcotic drugs be purchased as an item from a pharmacy, or would
it be on the impulse rack next to the horoscope books and the Weekly World
News in the 10-items-or-less lane? How would we go about keeping newly
legalized drugs like crack out of the hands of impressionable youth? Would
it be any more effective than the laws against teen alcohol or cigarette
consumption (that are a joke in themselves). What would the government do,
to keep my future son or daughter from coming into possession of a vial of
legalized 100%-pure-no-additives-or-preservatives crack? Teaching begins in
the home, but it is impossible for parents to hover over their children 24
hours a day (that is, without giving the kid a complex). And how close to a
reality do you REALLY think this is? If the government can take Primere
"cigarettes" off the market for being a drug-delivery system (delivering
nicotine, the same drug obtained by smoking the actual leaves), what makes
you think that they are going to give the okay to legalize drugs?

Message: 57628
Author: Zelda Pulasika  *** THIS IS ME***
Category: News Today
Subject: Wine
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 00:49:35

 Mr. Westfal, wine is ingested for one purpose, and one purpose only. Some
may claim that it helps their productivity at work, or makes them more
alert, but that is bullpuckies. Being that wine is consumed solely for the
purpose of altering the regular functions of the mind and body, I would have
to say that NO, wine is NOT fine consumed in ANY amount.

Message: 57629
Author: Zelda Pulasika ***THIS IS ME***
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Christ
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 00:56:39

   To the person who said that our Lord was gay, all I must say is that you
had better wash your mouth out with a strong soap. Jesus was not and is not
a bloody faggot. He didn't swish or chase the guys. He was asexual, meaning
that He had no sex life to begin with. He didn't need it. I tried being like
Jesus in that respect but everytime I passed the 'nanas in the grocery store
it was like they were reaching out for me. 

Message: 57630
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Westfall
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 04:34:35

The government did not force R.J. Reynolds to remove Premiere cigarettes
from the market. They were withdrawn due to poor sales.

Message: 57631
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Alcohol
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 04:38:43

Actually, in Arizona it is legal to dring alcohol in your yard. The law
prohibits consumption "in a public thoroughfare."

Message: 57632
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 05:47:00

Yes Ann,I was actually thinking it over and giving consideration to the
arguments for legalization, but in the final analysis it makes no more sense
than does the legalization of murder or any other crime.  THat we have a
very serious problem is all too obvious. Just as obvious is the premise that
there are no pat answers to the problem. Just as with the gun problem, while
I can advocate personal gun ownership, and can suscribe to the premise that
when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, I still cannot see the
dope dealers running around conducting their territorial disputes with
weapons that should never get into their hands in the first place. The fact
is that drugs are the number 1 kiler in this country, either directly or
indirectly. We have a frightening proportion of our children and young
people, the only hope of our future, going down the tubes due to the abuse
and misuse of drugs. Legalization of the product will not stop this, any
more than repeal of prohibition stopped the kids from getting older people
to buy booze for them. You are absolutely right in saying that I offered no
viable alternative or workable solution to the problem, but then, neither is
legalization. That is being supported by people who simply have not thought
through all the consequences of such an action, and in good conscience I
cannot support nor condone such a move. Until tighter reins can be put on
the manufacture and/o/or import of dangerous drugs, I'm afraid the war must
continue and intensify. I do not, however, agree with the local police
policy of coming down harder on the end of the chain, the user. That seems
to be totally
futile and pointless.

Message: 57633
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sandy/numbers
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 05:59:38

Gee Sandy, thanks for the phone numbers! I'll call them and lend my support
to their efforts to get these people killers out of circulation. Thank
goodness somebody is doing SOMETHING about the problem instead of sitting on
their haunches and clucking their tongues! They aren't touching any
legitimate hunting or target arms, nor are they affecting any honest
citizen's right to keep and bear arms. Sounds like a good bill to me.

Message: 57634
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob on Mildred
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 06:02:34

 I strongly suspect that Mildred is Rod Williams in drag, Bob.
To put anything resembling sense into that little head is an exercize in
useless. But of course you already know that.

Message: 57635
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/#57596
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 06:30:01

There is nothing wrong with daisies in the back yard, riding bicycles to
work and thinking like Rod! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 57636
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/drugs
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 07:04:39

Your posts on not legalizing drugs don't make any sense at all. Why would
drugs be advertized any more than hard liquor is now? I can't remember the
last time I saw a whiskey commercial on TV. Can you? 
Re: kids getting ahold of booze, cigarettes and drugs - yes, there is a
percentage that do and always will. But legalizing it would get the pushers
off the street cornors - the ones that urge the kids to 'be cool' and take
it! This is the only way a pusher can advertize his wares.
One thing you forget - there are littlerly hundreds of thousands of drug
users in the U.S.A. and they will continue to use it regardless of how awful
and sinful YOU think it is! This IS NOT going to go away! There is NO Way it
can be curbed, crushed or just disappear with the profit that is made from
it. The same with drinking, cigarettes and gambling. Mankind has been doing
those things since he's been here. We might as well be making a profit as a
nation than give it to the pushers that become millionairs in their
dealings. All that profit could go into the social security fund so it'll be
here when you get old and need it or to balance the national debt. This
isn't going to go away Daryl! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 57637
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: drugs
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 08:18:56

Shoot them all. no mor drugs!
                 Love you all
                 Ralph

Message: 57638
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Answer!
Subject: Premire "cigarettes"
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 08:47:34

        According to a couple of smokers I know, they tasted awful.  I do
know they smelled like burning plastic.  They didn't emit smoke, but the
smell was bad enough.
 
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Message: 57639
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Answer!
Subject: Crimes
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 08:51:09

        Murder should not be legalized because it involves an unwilling
participant, the murdered.  Drugs only affect the user.
        Sure, a user may commit other crimes.  He should be punished for
them, just as any other person should be.  Whether or not he used drugs is a
nonissue.
 
     /
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Message: 57640
Author: David Roe ***THIS IS ME***
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: ASU LIBRARY INFO.
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 10:23:01

  One of the oldest known drugs, cannabis was acknowledged as early
as 2700 BC, in a Chinese manuscript. Throughout the centuries it has
been used both medicinally and as an intoxicant. The major psychoactive
component of this drug, however, was not identified until the
mid-1960s; this ingredient is tetrahydrocannabinol, commonly known as
THC. At present, other cannabinoids explored.  Psychoactive compounds
are found in all parts of the male and female plant, with the greatest
concentration in the flowering tops. The content of these active
compounds varies greatly from plant to plant, depending on genetic and
environmental factors.

Historical Perspective
  Humans have used drugs in various forms since prehistoric times.
Primitive humans ate plants such as mushrooms, which had physiological
effects. The ancient Romans and Greeks practiced a well-developed
MEDICINE, using various plants and waters therapeutically. ALCOHOL,
OPIUM, and the derivative of the hyoscyamus plant were used as
ANALGESICS and SEDATIVES. The ancient Egyptians used opium for pain,
castor oil for  worms, and animal blood, viscera, and burned sponge to
treat goiter, which probably was a curative because of its iodine
content. By the 16th century physicians were employing colchicum for
gout, as is done today.         -David, P.S.  Hope this helps.

Message: 57641
Author: David Roe***THIS IS ME***
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Guns
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 10:27:51

        A nation that has its 'effective' guns taken away from its citizens
is a nation in deep $###, if you know what I mean.  If assult rifles are
banned and only five shot clips available for semi-autos watch out folks.
        Major crimes will still continue including mass murders without
these weapons but with them also.  There are more assault rifles and large
capacity clips than there are bibles.
        Good posts Ann.  -David

Message: 57642
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Zelda
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 11:27:13

Certainly original, aren't we? I would agree with you that wine or any other
alcoholic beverage is unsuitable at work. However, try and tell me that a
glass of wine with a good Italian dinner is intended to alter one's sphere
of reality. I will await a genuine response with truly original thoughts on
the subject.

Message: 57643
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nick/57630
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 11:29:36

I'd check into that, Nick. RJR agreed to remove them from the shelves, not
only because they were found to be a drug-delivery system rather than a
cigarette, but that research found them to taste "beyond nasty." But they
WERE found to be a drug-delivery system, and something like that placed on
the market without FDA approval is not an incredibly bright thing to do.

Message: 57644
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nick/57631
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 11:31:01

Though a back yard certainly is not considered a public thoroughfare, a
front yard usually faces (and is almost always in close proximity to) a
public street, which is a public thoroughfare.

Message: 57645
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/Drugs
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 11:37:15

(Huge sigh of relief) FINALLY, someone who is thinking rationally on the
subject! And so you agree with me that legalizing drugs in itself is on par
with legalizing murder in the sheer asinine nature of the consideration.
When you place the pros and cons on the scale, the cons are likely to break
the scale! Of course the drug users are going to support something like
this. It will make it easier and cheaper for them to get what they want. BUT
IT'S NOT going to make crime go away, AND IT'S NOT going to take the stigma
away in the eyes of kids. Anyhow, how would it look, in the face of the
"JUST SAY NO" campaign, for the government to turn around and say, "Ok,
kids, now all these drugs that we have been telling you not to use? Well,
we're gonna LEGALIZE them now, but just because their legalized and just
because Uncle Sam is making money off of it, still...don't do 'em, 'kay?"
 
Yeah, right.
 
(Handshake Paul)
Y.F.I.C.,
Daryl

Message: 57646
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann/57635
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 11:38:07

(Daryl sighs in dismay.)

Message: 57647
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Double Sigh
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 11:43:11

Ann, if you think a single pusher can sweet talk a bunch of kids into trying
drugs, think of how many the media could sweep in. Looking for liquor ads?
Billboards. Beer ads on TV. Rolling Stone. Spin. Cream. Circus. Just about
any youth magazine you can think of with the exception of the 16s, Tiger
Beats, and Teen Screams. M-T-V. Pop radio. Rock radio. Open your eyes, Ann,
they are there. And what is the difference between hard liquor and beer or
wine coolers? A kid really doesn't care about what will get him drunk. The
teenage alcoholics who rely on hard liquor, I would imagine, are in the
minority. Beer and wine coolers are the "hip" young adult liquor beverages
now. And enough of them will get a kid kneeling before the porcelain altar
in no time.

Message: 57648
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Alan/Drugs
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 11:45:23

Whether or not he used drugs is a non-issue? Drugs alter a person's
perception of reality. Drugs will cause a person to do things that he/she
would not normally do sober. And when you've got that craving for a drug,
and no money to obtain that drug with, what do you think you're going to do?
Just sit there, and twiddle your thumbs until someone throws you a $20?

Message: 57649
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/Hell
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 15:31:22

Re:  "If only 10 per-cent of humans go to hell (or even 1%) then hell must
be a mighty big place."

Hmmmmmmmm.  That means that 90 to 99% will go to heaven.  It must be even
bigger!

Message: 57650
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 15:39:29

Re:  "I strongly suspect that Mildred is Rod Williams in drag, Bob."
        
The thought had occured to me.  Naughty naught Rod!

Message: 57651
Author: $ Michael James
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 1:        I have a question for you BoB.  Do you think that you would enjoy 
 2:Heaven as much just knowing there are a certain percentage of the population
 3:that is being tormented for ever?  Just curious.
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Message: 57651
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 16:42:13

I see you've gone from self-pity to self-righteousness.

Message: 57652
Author: $ Cliff Winters
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul on Rights?
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 17:54:23

        My right to buy and target shoot with an AR-15 has been violated!
They do make good fun guns.  You know NOTHING about guns and your facts are
false.  As for full autos... they are ONLY good when a wall of people are
coming at you for defense.  They are not accurate and are hard to control in
full auto mode... but you would know nothing about that, so you condemn
them.
        I called those phone numbers and voiced my views on the facts....
In short, I am against those bills for control. (House Bill 669 and Senate
Bill 386)
        
        Paul, you have fallen for the tricks that lead to dictatorship.  You
have sold MY rights down the river in favor of Government control because
you can't take care of yourself.
        You want to fear something....  Try a bolt action high powered
rifle.  I could pick you off no sweat from a 100 yards away with one shot.
You CAN't do that with a full Auto.

        Boy, I am glad I gave BBSing up.  People that know nothing about a
sport, claim to know everything.  I can't wait till the revolution to take
back our rights given away by the people for safe butt wiping by government.

        One last question... Who gave Paul the right to decide what hobbies
are fun and what is not?  I am glad Paul don't make my recreation schedules.
        Get me OUT-OF of here... (Poof)! C.W.

Message: 57653
Author: $ Steve MacGregor
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 22:19:28

  I miss Cliff Kolostow.  He was more fun than the new cliff.  

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Message: 57654
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Paul/Daryl
Date: 03/17/89  Ti

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Message: 57654
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Paul/Daryl
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 22:30:10

Paul and Daryl:
      Since its all the same to you whether a person uses an illegal drug
      or commits a murder, remind me never to party with you guys.
      
Paul: You should get a paying position with the gun confiscation lobby. You
      are a regular fountain of misinformation on the subject of firearms
      legislation. The propaganda they put out saying that they are not
      outlawing 'legitimate' firearms or infringing anyone's rights comes
      from people who wouldn't know a revolver from an assault rifle, don't
      consider any firearm legitimate, don't recognize any rights involving
      firearms, and either don't understand the scope of the legislation
      they are proposing or don't mind lying about it.
 
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 57655
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Todd
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 22:57:11

I can think of a couple of reasons why the story didn't get bigger play (it
did have front page, above the fold stories in the LA Times and San Diego
Union, though).  One is that it still isn't certain that it was a terrorist.
It may have been a disgruntled sailor -- or an Iranian student acting on his
own.  The crudity of the bomb (or bombs) suggests that it wasn't a
professional.  Second is that no one was killed.  If her van had been full
of kids, and she'd been moving instead of in the left-hand turn lane, it
would have been a bigger (and sadder) story.
 
A friend of mine suggested that I do an editorial on the explosion.  She
said "I mean, terrorism is stupid."

Message: 57656
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/Lung Cancer
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 23:34:54

        Now, now, Daryl.  Bob doesn't have lung cancer, Bob is dead.  He was
knocked off in San Francisco some years back.  But I think he came back from
the dead to haunt us.  Bob is quite some guy.  -Rod

Message: 57657
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/Heaven/Hell
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 23:40:15

        I have a question for you BoB.  Do you think that you would enjoy
Heaven as much just knowing there are a certain percentage of the population
that is being tormented for ever?  Just curious.

Message: 57658
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff Winters
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 23:41:58

        Our initials are the same.  CW

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 1:        I would LOVE to answer you most recent posts concerning me and I 
 2:will but all I'm good for right now is one or two lines.  In other words I 
 3:am beat and need some beddy-bye.  I will answer in full detail over the 
 4:weekend.
 5:        By the way, did you read David Roe's post about early mankind and 
 6:drugs.  If you need more it is available.  ASU has a good library.
 7:        
 8:        I'll get back with you.  If you do not understand the excellent 
 9:posts put up by other users (Pauls' excluded) then your mind is out of its 
10:logic state and off on some religious fantasy and is being guided by 
11:something I've seen before, many times.  I sincerely hope you wake up one of
12:these days soon.  I feel that it is too late for Paul but then again 
13:stranger things have happened before so there is always hope.
14:
15:        I have to go, I guess I typed more than two lines but my research is
16:not yet complete and I have a hot date with Mildred and Zelda.  -Rod
17:end

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Message: 57659
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 23:51:26

        I would LOVE to answer you most recent posts concerning me and I
will but all I'm good for right now is one or two lines.  In other words I
am beat and need some beddy-bye.  I will answer in full detail over the
weekend.
        By the way, did you read David Roe's post about early mankind and
drugs.  If you need more it is available.  ASU has a good library.
        
        I'll get back with you.  If you do not understand the excellent
posts put up by other users (Pauls' excluded) then your mind is out of its
logic state and off on some religious fantasy and is being guided by
something I've seen before, many times.  I sincerely hope you wake up one of
these days soon.  I feel that it is too late for Paul but then again
stranger things have happened before so there is always hope.

        I have to go, I guess I typed more than two lines but my research is
not yet complete and I have a hot date with Mildred and Zelda.  -Rod

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Message: 214
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod/last
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 07:11:56

I guess the REAL secret to life is finding that plain piece of white bread
that tastes heavenly with out the drug(s) or booze. Er? -=*) ANN (*=-

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 3:two pound stake.  There are many teeney-weeney substances in everything we 
 4:eat and if you are not aware that you should expect a reaction then whatever
 5:happens will be considered as a normal event.  
 6:        When one takes acid or chews mushrooms then we expect a trip to 
 7:happen and we watch for it.  But we know that it is susposed to happen.  
 8:I've tripped out many times and never did know what it was I took.  But I 
 9:had learned what tripping was so I was able to tell.
10:
11:                        Tripping out on life,
12:                                Rod
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Message: 215
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Drugs
Date: 03/17/89  Time: 23:57:28

       Everything contains something that affects your mind.  I learned from
LSD that a teeney-weeney substance can do a whole hell of a lot more than a
two pound stake.  There are many teeney-weeney substances in everything we
eat and if you are not aware that you should expect a reaction then whatever
happens will be considered as a normal event.  
        When one takes acid or chews mushrooms then we expect a trip to
happen and we watch for it.  But we know that it is susposed to happen. 
I've tripped out many times and never did know what it was I took.  But I
had learned what tripping was so I was able to tell.

                        Tripping out on life,
                                Rod

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