Apollo BBS Archive - March 1989

Apollo BBS Archive - March 14, 1989


Mail from James Taranto
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 18:16:22

The deposition went fine.  I think I'll win.
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 1:        I imagine that your lawsuit is being followed by many people all 
 2:over the nation.  It's an important case.  -Rod

Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 04:11:36

James was considering buying a Taurus. I don't know if he ever did get it.

JT is just warming up.
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 1:        Hawley did buy a 9mm.  I phoned him but I guess he is still in Costa
 2:Rica.  See you.

Mail from Ann Oudin
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 07:38:24

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I like your idea about trivia - answering your own questions. Ha ha. 
Re: Daryl - I figured him marrying religion was the answer. Little does he
know he has taken on the biggest burden there is - not belief in God, but a
religion that makes the 'way' stright and narrow and stiffling to one's
life. I remember so vividly years ago when I belong to the Catholic church
how the nuns and priests would tell you the 'way' it was. They discribed
hell and pergatory and made us shake in our boots! How they knew what those
were like, we never ever gave it a thought. Also, when we asked the classic
question - "If someone were stranded on an island all their life and never
heard about Jesus, would they still go to Heaven if they were good"? The
answer was - 'they were lost for eternity'! And we believed this and felt so
sorry for those fictitious people. I remember asking a Lutheran pastor if
animals went to Heaven and his answer was no and I believed him too! All the
years that I called myself a Christian, I felt constantly guilty! Why Daryl
wants to take something like this up in life is beyond me. He'll never feel
any kind of freedom again.
Re: JT not attacking us - he did me in private mail. I also wrote him a note
asking him (just like I did you) if he could at this time log on a little
more - he came back and said - "What the hell do you think I'm going to do?
Use a pay phone?" What a Mr. Nice guy he is! I can always count on him to be
civil. Ha!! I do notice that when there is a subject he is attacking, he
logs on quite a bit. Thanks to your advice about a year ago, I don't let him
get to me anymore - I usually come back with some 'nastiness' of my own. 
See you later. -=*) ANN (*=-
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 1:        Without the fire we would never become good writers.  I would and 
 2:appreciate more, fire from an intelligent person than from say someone like 
 3:Carter or several other loonies on this board.  JT has a way about him that 
 4:I appreciate.           -Rod

Mail from Ann Oudin
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 08:03:04

Loved you alias posts - but won't every body know your Dobbs? Didn't you
send a letter to the editor of the Republic once under that name and told us
all to read it? 
Since you have confessed to me - I will confess to you - I AM Afro Poet!
Didn't you ever notice that Afro always writes to you and is on your side?
He chides JT too. Ha. I intend to use him again in the future - especially
when they come down on you so hard. I think though, he is going to become a
little more sophisticated in the future. Less jive talk - more cutting! Ha.
Not so nice! Your right - this IS fun. -=*) ANN (*=-
P.S. Sorry I didn't confess before - was afraid you wouldn't approve.
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 1:        Hi Afro.  Far out and thanks.  You sure write good.  Really.

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Message: 5304
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Believe it or not!
Subject: Rare Find
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:36:48

My "No guns in the house" when I was a kid father today picked
up (purchased) a very hard to find Colt "Pocket .380".
 
Q: WHy the heck don't they make guns that balance that well anymore?
 
Very nice.

Message: 5305
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 16:48:55

        Has he shot it yet?
        How does it handle ........?

Message: 5306
Author: $ Cliff Winters
Category: Fire'arms
Subject: Reloads
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:18:35

        Just dropped in to clear up a loose string here...  I no longer do
reloads or work on guns.
        
        Thank You   Cliff

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Message: 121
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Bit Bucket Talk
Subject: last
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:26:12

Yeah, the weenie contacted a friend of mine and then he called
here. Don't bother with him. He's full of gas.

Message: 122
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Hardware Not Listed
Subject: Advice etc etc
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:28:00

Since we have a stubborn child throwing in the towel and
snivelling publicly about it, I thought I might take this
moment to say that I'll help with advice and
repairs where and when I can. Cliff thinks he's busy.
I'm never too busy to help friends.
 
        Mike

Message: 123
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: SYSOP Speaks
Subject: Mike
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 16:57:02

        I wish you luck on helping all your friends out there 
in computer land.

                        Sandy SySop

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Message: 57531
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: David Hsu
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:17:18

RE: Legalizing crime.
 
Why eat? You'll just get hungry again.

Message: 57532
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/57474
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 23:11:47

Rod, do YOU understand that the criminal element that pervades the
trafficking of both child pornography and illegal drugs, profits upon the
illegality of both? Make drugs illegal, and the criminals will pool their
money into something more profitable. And you are being half-cocked if you
wish to legalize one to eliminate crime, and not the other. Ethically, you
should be for the legalization of both, or the status quo. And you say that
drug abuse is a victimless crime, eh? Tell that to the kid that is lying
dead in the gutter as the result of some bad dope he bought from the
neighborhood pusher. Yeah, victimless crime, right. There is one victim: THE
USER.

Message: 57533
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 57475/Rod
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 23:16:19

If the judge trying my case is kcufed up on cocaine or any other illegal
drug, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT. Any officer of the law who willfully uses
drugs, either on or off duty, is a DAMN HYPOCRITE, and is no better than any
criminal on the street in my eyes. Furthermore, if that person is going to
his taxpayer-paid job copping a buzz, then I want his butt OFF THE FORCE. To
Protect and To Serve does not mean To Protect (The Stash) and Serve (Your
Fellow Officers).

Message: 57534
Author: Stuart Dobbs   NOTE: *** This is me. *** 
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 00:45:37

Hey fellow.  You ain't never gonna stop them cops from catching a buzz.  I
don't care who they hire, human is human.  Same for judges and the like and
you ain't never gonna know about it cept once in a while, maybe.  There is
thousands of judges and cops in this country.  Do you think they are all
honest and don't by future freeway land while laughing at the geeks who come
before them without a pot?
When you gonna wake up, the coffees perkin.  Every human is dishonest to a
degree.  Them big money boys don't even take the time to consider us yokels.
All they wants is that power and glory they gets from putting us in the
slammer and taking our land and possessions.  Praise Dobbs.

Message: 57535
Author: Rick Shaw
Category: Answer!
Subject: Jesus on drugs
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 03:30:29

He drank wine, didn't he?

Message: 57536
Author: Rick Shaw
Category: Question?
Subject: Williams/Hsu
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 03:34:02

I think he was serious.  Sounds like a Libertarian.

Message: 57537
Author: David Hsu
Category: Answer!
Subject: Williams
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 03:52:34

You misunderstand me.  I'm talking about letting everyone OUT of prison. 
However, your suggestion of putting everyone in prison is well taken, since
the differences between the two conditions are negligible.  
As far as the virtue of judges and policemen, it is my considered opinion
that all officials, with the exception of certain petty bureaucrats in the
U.S. Department of Labor, are clearly either immoral stooges of the
military-industrial tool-complex, or have secret vices beyond the ken of any
of us, save perhaps Merle Haggard.
 
Yes, I'm a Libertarian and proud of it.

Message: 57538
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: Cliffie
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 07:06:23

Hey...........everyone.........

Big deal, but this is my 100th logon, and where's............Cliffie?

C'mon, Cliff, we all love you!  C'mon back!

Sandy...........we love you too, but it's not the same......!

See Y'aa..............
Jeannie

Message: 57539
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gee...
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 11:27:14

Stuart, uh Rick, uh I mean ROD... You most certainly are on a roll, aren't
you? Well, when you're finished "rolling" it, turn off your computer, smoke
it, and hush.
 
Wine was not intended to be used as a means for getting intoxicated in those
days. The Bible shuns drunkenness (1 Cor 5:11, among others). Even you
should know that, since you claim to be an ex-Bible scholar. I tend to doubt
that more and more each day.

Message: 57540
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 57538/Jeannie
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 11:29:04

Boy, I tell you, with all that stink he raised about my "tantrums," he most
certainly better not be sulking. *grin* *wink*

Message: 57541
Author: $ Steve MacGregor
Category: In search of
Subject: Baseball Cap
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 14:11:08

  Anyone know where I can get ahold of a Los Angeles Raiders baseball cap,
as mentioned in #57469?  None of the stores around here have them.
 
     =========  Pascal  #(O,~)#  Wink!  MacProgrammer  =========

Message: 57542
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Answer!
Subject: Baseball Cap
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 14:33:19

How about Los Angeles?

Message: 57543
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Burkhart/57522
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 14:37:48

I'm puzzled as to why the media hasn't made a bigger deal out of the van
bombing than it has.  I expected to see media hysteria, or at least more
attention than is given now.
 
On a side note - I truly believe we should pack up all Iranian students and
ship them back home.

Message: 57544
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 17:09:37

        It is because the terrorists did not pelt the van with bullets.
Remember, taking our weapons away from us is the "IN" thing in American
these days. How can the anti-gun movement use a bombing?  tsk, tsk.

Message: 57545
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: David Hsu
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 18:36:39

I assume everyone has already figured this out, but in case you haven't, he
is actually Peter Cervelli.

Message: 57546
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/Rick/Stu etc.
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:02:42

        You are way off base, bub.  I am neither Rick or any of those others
you mentioned.  But I am a Libertarian.

Message: 57547
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: David
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:03:02

        Good post, see last.
-Rod

Message: 57548
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/1 of 2 1/4
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:04:54

Daryl, you still do not understand.  Child pornography is a serious
crime that involves a victim.  That's right, it is someone hurting
another.  Pot, heroin, cocaine, magic mushrooms and Peyote are from the
plant kingdom.  Get this.  It is the individuals right to take any of
these substances.  In fact it is their right to take Cyanide if they so
desire.  Of course they would be violating others rights if they took
poison while speeding down a freeway at 80.  People do not have the
right to be foolish where it involves freedoms of others.  But, dammit,
you cannot usurp the rights of others in regards to what they put into
their bodies.  Although it is done, it is in direct violation of an
individuals freedom.  But that just happens to be the type of world we
now live in.  Ignorance is king.
      I hope you can see the difference between herbal intake and
using a child to produce explicit sexual material.
      You mention a kid who is in the gutter, dead from too much dope. 
Well, I can see those children in the gutter, dead from being run over
by an automobile but deaths due to drug over-usage is far down on
the scale of reality.  It is rare.  It would be easier for a child to
OD on the booze in his fathers liquor cabinet than die from pot or
cocaine.

Message: 57549
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/ 2 of 2 1/4
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:05:47

      But if you want to protect the kids from bad dope then push for
legalization.  There would be no bad dope.  It would all be pure. 
By the way, what is 'bad dope' and how does one go about dying from
it?  Well, sure if someone is foolish enough to stick needles into
their veins and squeeze the 'bulb' then I guess a lot could happen,
including infections.  But anyone who is idiot enough to allow
substances to bypass all bodily defenses by putting things directly
into their blood stream should be educated.  They should be given or
sold clean needles.  They should be helped out of their dilemma but
not with prison or jail but with an education.
      Many an anti-drug law were drawn up by legislators drinking
cocktails.  I'm sure they couldn't discern the difference in the land
where ignorance is king.
      Many people who have little self-worth shoot the harder
substances such as heroin.  The reason they have little self-worth to
begin with is the way our society is set up.  Some children are born
with little intelligence compared to others.  They grow up as slow
achievers and very little is offered to them in the way of a decent
livelihood or home.  They are set upon by the sharks of this world. 
They never get ahead.  They are probably more efficient at

Message: 57550
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/ 1/4
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:06:33

shop-lifting and other criminal type behavior as minimum wages are
hardly enough to support them, their wives or children.  Society
offers little to these people of low intelligence.  There are people
who go all through school and do not know how to read, write or add. 
The school just wanted to get rid of them.  If our teachers are not
intelligent then who is?
      We have a lot of growing up to do and in the meantime, the
bigots will continue to have a lot of say in this world.  Prisons will
remain full and murder, rape and smog will get worse.  -Rod

Message: 57551
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/wine
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 20:03:32

Daryl, you say that wine was not intended to be used as a means for
getting intoxicated in the days of 2000 years ago.  You make me
laugh.
      So what you are saying is that our ancestors of 2000 years ago
were somehow more intelligent and enlightened.  Sure, yea.  You doubt
the people became intoxicated at wedding feasts or when problems
beyond their control arose?  They just sat down and had a biblical
conversation with God.  They didn't get drunk.  Are you serious?  You
go on to say that in 1 Cor. 5:11 it says The Bible shuns drunkenness. 
Well, that's good enough for me and everyone else.  (grin)  It's
simply amazing how everyone followed the bible 2000 years ago just the
same as they do today.  I bet they got a real thrill from Mark and the
others not to forget Paul.  People back then were so smart that they
would wait till Monday to pull their beasts of burden, who had fallen
into a pit on a Sunday, to safety.  You are hilariously funny today. 
That particular civilization was corrupt to the max, bout' like it is
today.  Cept' they didn't have Libertarians back then.  -Rod

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Message: 206
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Taxes
Date: 03/13/89  Time: 22:34:16

Suck.
 
But think of it this way;
 
Would you rather pay taxes and be able to earn a living or
not pay taxes and fight for food ?

Message: 207
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Mike on taxes
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 07:54:47

I did not understand your question. If we didn't have taxes or much lower
ones - why would we have to fight for food? Please explain. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 208
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: lasts
Date: 03/14/89  Time: 19:13:38

        Could I go to another planet, please?  Hey, what's the big idea of
waking this SIG up?  Huh?  Hey, we (I) could post a Christian Bible verse
each day and make comments about it?  
        Yesterday I found a 1941 edition of a military bible.  It is divided
into dated sections, one for each day of the year.  The way it is worded,
because each section is headed by a comment from the military, it just wants
one to be a good little Christian killer and that is all.  Kill for your
master and be rewarded with eternal heaven.  Sounds fun, eh?  Kill, kill,
kill, kill, kill for your master. Could be a song.  
        "I'll kill fo' my Master if in I get Heaven, Lordy, Lordy, Lord.
          I wanna Kill, kill, kill,
         My Massa wants me to kill, God tol' me to kill, gotta kill" -Rod