Apollo BBS Archive - March 1989

Apollo BBS Archive - March 12, 1989


Mail from Nick Ianuzzi
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 03:53:50

The Ruger 22 is a well-made gun. Unfortunately, the 9mm is not nearly as
well assembled. Perhaps it's just perceived quality -- for example, the
slide just doesn't feel right, and the body of the gun looks like a real
cheap casting. The Taurus PT99AF (the model that I own) is about $350,
maybe a little less if you shop around.

I asked Peter about JT's whereabouts yesterday. As far as he knows, he
should be back in Washington. He says he's going to give him a call to find
out what's going on.
[A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap 

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 1:        What about the 9mm P85 that was talked about a while ago?
 2:
 3:        Thanks for the info.  Summer is a coming and wowo.  Buy the way, it 
 4:was I who logged on as Bob Thomas and Nancy Wieser.  And in Cliff's 
 5:resignation letter, he said a lot more but got on later and updated it.  Bot
 6:Todd and I saw the original.  But I didn't save it because I was Bob Thomas 
 7:at the time.  He just whined a lot.             -Rod

Mail from Ann Oudin
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 05:05:07

Did Jesus use drugs? Are you refering to wine? I'm curious. Who knows with
the crazy way the Bible is written, it just might state that He took Heroin
or something! Ha. -=*) ANN (*=-
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 1:        Who in the hell knows what Jesus did?  The book has too many 
 2:meanings to say.  At the time I made that statement I had no idea of what I 
 3:was talking about.  I just said it as an attention grabber.  Only Bob took 
 4:the bait and I had to come up with something, so I did.  I'm not even sure 
 5:that such a person ever existed.  Susposedly it was God in the flesh.  Hmmm.
 6:                                -Rod

Mail from Ann Oudin
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 05:13:26

Thanks for the kind words. Of course, I'm accused of being negative - but in
my opinion, I'm just 'calling it like it is' - especially regarding the body
and growing old. Truly, most of the time I am an 'up' person and do see all
the good stuff in this life, but I don't play ostrich with the bad either!
Daryl can talk all he wants to about going to those horrible nursing homes
to cheer up the aged, but it is a terrible experience no matter how
he covers it up with talk of being kind, considerate etc. I wonder what luck
he has chit chatting with some one that is sitting there drooling and
shitting their pants and looking at him with 'nothing' in their eyes! Jason,
the Terminator, and the like are certainly more kinder in what they do to
their victoms than life itself does to it's victoms! -=*) ANN (*=-
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 1:        Our thoughts on the good and bad of life are basically the same.  I 
 2:just wanted to point out the negative to get Daryl in a tissie.  We did.  
 3:        By the way, to beef up the board I have been logging in under other 
 4:names.  I am Bob Thomas and Nancy Weiser.  Try it.  It is fun expressing 
 5:opinions under other names.  Sortof gives a person a 'license' if you know 
 6:what I mean.                    -Rod

Mail from James Taranto
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 12:04:08

What kind of medical problems does Hawley have?
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 1:        Remember, I told you he has kidney stones.  They come from too much 
 2:fat in his early diet.  He eats a better diet now and is trying a new 
 3:medicine that is susposed to dissolve them, perhaps.  The medicine runs 
 4:about $200 per month and should be continued for six months.
 5:        Side effects?  Who knows.  He is still in Costa Rica.  I hope he is 
 6:doing good at the casino.                       
 7:        Good to see you're back.  You were missed.
 8:                                Rod

Mail from James Taranto
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 12:04:30

I had to move.  I now have a new apartment, known as JFA4.
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 1:        Vat is your phone number?  Take care.

Mail from James Taranto
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 16:16:04

Hawley is pretty damn young to have kidney stones.  My dad had kidney stones
when he was 43.
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 1:        It isn't how long ago you were made, it's how many take offs' and 
 2:landings you've had.  Or in James' case, how much beef fat he chomped down 
 3:on.

Mail from James Taranto
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 16:16:19

My phone number is (202) 659-3252.
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 1:Okay. I'll phone you some time.  Sorry I missed you at the airport.  How did
 2:the depositions go?  Are you going to win?


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Message: 2935
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod/2929
Date: 03/11/89  Time: 23:59:20

I would suspect that an atheist would be more afraid of death than a
Christian. For, to that atheist, death (in his/her mind) culminates in total
lack of existance after death. No more. Nothing. Nada. Zippo. Am I not right
on this? Of course I will not elaborate on what I believe will happen to
that person, for someone will probably start whimpering and complaining
about what a "meanie God is" and "gee, isn't God terrible?"

Message: 2936
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Sandy/2933
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 00:01:40

I agree. If my illness is terminal, and my NATURAL days are limited as a
result, then let me live those days naturally, and then let me pass on to
better things. I don't want some "well-intentioned" doctor tying me down to
this earth when I am not supposed to be. 

Message: 2937
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod/2934
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 00:03:33

Well, let me honestly say that you left yourself WIDE OPEN on that last
comment, and suffice to say I am not going to chomp on such easy bait. I'll
just be tactful and sum it up in one word. *yank*

Message: 2938
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 11:46:59

Yeah, I was going to say, "Hey Rod, let's go take a train ride..."

Message: 2939
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Daryl/death
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 15:27:49

        No, not at all.  No matter what I or anyone believes does not make
it so.  I don't know what happens at physical death.  I have no idea
whatsoever.
        But, if there is absolutely nothing, then that would be so simple to
handle, it ain't even funny.  Hell, if there is nothing for all of eternity
then let me die now.  Why come in the first place.  What is the big deal? 
What is a life, especially in this place.
        I think it is entirely possible that something exists that could be
called a Universal Mind.  In other words, it appears that in the violent
energy that exists in the universe that some sort of intelligence has come
about.  It exists on all planes although on this human plane the thought
cycle is inhibited by electrical impulses passing through a heavy atmosphere
of water vapor and that which we call flesh.  We aren't very bright in other
words.
        But take this away and in the clear space of the cosmos this
electrical intelligence may be more together.  Perhaps it is where all
electrical impuses end up unless trapped in a whirling planetary system
where it manifests itself into that which is possible, the human or other
animal form. 
        There is more relatively clear space in the cosmos than heavy matter
so perhaps once I can free myself from this planet I will be able to have
more fun.
        I fear that which is called death, NOT AT ALL.  I welcome it, seeing
how I am some what of a curious adverturer.  Sometimes I can hardly wait.

Message: 2940
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Daryl
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 15:30:06

        The unknown facinates me.  Besides the level of intelligence on this
planet is, uh, well, not that hot if you know what I mean. 
        But, oh, wait, let me check my Horrorscope before I say anymore.-Rod

Message: 2941
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Todd
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 15:31:22

        I would like to take a cross country train ride with you.  I'd bet
it would be fun especially if it were through Holland.  

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Message: 57500
Author: $ Cliff Winters
Category: In search of
Subject: SYSOP
Date: 03/11/89  Time: 21:56:40

        I am not using this or anyother board at this time...  Burn-Out has
taken it's toll... (7 years about) and I just can't handle it anylonger.
The SYSOP of this board is non-other than 'SANDY SYSOP'.  If you have
questions, please refer them to her... She is the BOSS!


        I QUIT as SYSOP...   

        Bye......  Cliff Winters    03/11/89

Message: 57501
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff Winters
Date: 03/11/89  Time: 22:24:46

Incidentally, you keep misspelling the word "profane."

Message: 57502          ***NOTE:  This is also me. ***
Author: David Roe
Category: Politics
Subject: SYSOP
Date: 03/11/89  Time: 23:18:15

        I would very much like to have the job of running this system.  What
does it pay?

Message: 57503
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Answer!
Subject: Daryl/crime
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 01:39:26

        The difference between drug abuse, and child porno, murder, etc.,
can be summed up as "consenting adults."  Child pornography and murder
involve people that are not adults, or are not consenting, or both.  I would
not favor legalizing drugs for children, anymore than booze is legal for
children now.
 
     /
 /  *  /  Alan
*     *

Message: 57504
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Question?
Subject: Dean
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 01:46:56

        Of course, if you have a better source of statistics on gun uses, by
all means, please cite it.  What source did you find that gave you figures
on gun usage for defense versus accidental injury?
 
     /
 /  *  /  Alan
*     *

Message: 57505
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 04:00:39

And who says that there's no such thing as male menopause?

Message: 57506
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 04:03:00

I suggest you pick up a copy of any gun magazine advertising fully automatic
weapons for sale, and give one of the dealers a call. Or better yet, call
Mandel's in Scottsdale. He is probably the biggest full-auto dealer in town.
He'll clear things up for you.

Message: 57507
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/your 3 of 3
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 05:20:09

Super posts! Very true. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 57508
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff the ex.
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 05:25:02

I support Sandy as sysop - but you will be back! You said it your self -
"You can't please everyone"! So why try? You have been an excellent sysop!
Just scan the other BBSes and see what I mean. Cheer up! We love you.
                        -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 57509
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Dean
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 05:58:59

 If "usefull ways of dealing with crime are available", then how come the
gangs are getting such a foothold and growing so large and dangerous, mostly
on the profits from the sale of illegal drugs?
Id "useful ways of dealing with crime are available", then why are there
areas in this best of all possible countries where honest people must fear
for their lives every time they step out of their doors?
If "useful ways of dealing with crime are available", how come police in
some parts of our country have to go to work in body armor?
How come Dean?

Message: 57510
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 06:05:02

While I am really sorry to see you leave your post after so many years, I
certainly understand your position. I have lived under similiar stress, and
know the feeling well.
 While Sandy and I obviously disagree on some issues, I'm sure that there
are many more on which we agree, but pro or con, I will certainly support
her in the sometimes unenviable position of sysop. God bless you both.

Message: 57511
Author: Bob Thomas
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Body Armor
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 09:13:04

        The main reason police wear body armor is less opportunity to get
hurt when they bully people.  They are PIGS in action.  And the newspapers
blow stories out of proportion all the time.  If they say 1000 gang members,
this translates into 20 gang members.  Get the picture?  Twenty gang members
does not a story make.          -BOB

Message: 57512
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Answer!
Subject: Alan H.
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 11:23:24

  I didn't cite figures for gun usage as opposed to accidents, I pointed out
that such statistics are flawed and useless because of the very nature of
the activities involved. I have seen some studies in the past in which gun
owners were asked if they had ever relied upon a gun for their safety in any
way. The result was that many had and that very very few had reported it if
they had any choice. I don't remember where or when I saw this, but it makes
sense.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 57513
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul/Bob Thomas
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 11:34:59

  I said that effective ways of dealing with crime were available, I did not
say they were being used. Enforcing existing laws and keeping violent
offenders off the street and in custody works, but the criminal justice
system is not functioning effectively in this area. This is partly due to
the prisons and jails being filled with people who are not violent offenders
and partly due to other problems in the judicial system. Don't expect any
relief from this as long as a doomed 'war on drugs' is our top national
priority in law enforcement.
  Body armor saves more police officers from injury in traffic accidents
than it does in shootings. It is probably an excellent idea for anyone who
drives a lot as part of their job, but especially anyone who gets into the
occasional high speed chase.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 57514
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Westfall's 57469
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 12:50:35

The Los Angeles Raiders are a football team.

Message: 57515
Author: Nancy Weiser
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: James Taranto
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 14:14:50

I think I love this guy.  Many people go become cops because they have an
inner need to be a symbol of authority.  Usually they are duds at home.  I
know because my father is a cop.  He is a bully on the job and at home.  The
only way to change it is to make the top cop a good person.  He reflects
upon the entire departmental attitude.  Right now in Phoenix we have a crook
and a mental defective as head.  My father told me this in one of his weaker
moments.  It was while he was wearing my mothers pants.   Nancy

Message: 57516
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: David Roe/Sysop
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 15:35:36

      You ask what the pay is for being SYSOP (sis-op) of this system
and you want the job.  Interesting.
      Well, you wouldn't become monetarily rich but you would learn
how to spell, format, and type.  You will learn things about yourself
that will make you a better person in the long run.  You will be able
to correct flaws in yourself with the help of others.
      And speaking of others, this is the best part.  You will get to
know people who, if you hadn't met, would have left your life very
shallow, indeed.  Yes, I would say that being the SYSOP of this fine
BBS will most definitely change your entire life, for the better.
      There is something that you acquire here that all of the money
in the world can't touch.  You can't lose.      -Rod


Message: 57517
Author: Marc Elliott
Category: For sale
Subject: CoCo 2 system
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 19:17:52

CoCo 2 (64K) with: disc drive, modem, speech synthesizer, joysticks,
software and much documentation (everything!)...$ 200.00 takes it all  OR
a remote control color tv that works and looks ok in even trade (any takers
??)
Call Marc at 433-1964 (after 4:00 p.m. weekdays best).

Message: 57518
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 19:20:35

I'll give you 47 cents.

Message: 57519
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 03/12/89  Time: 23:04:42

        You are too generous .........

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Subject:Coco

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 1:        I'll bid 48 cents.  Does this include delivery & set-up?