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Apollo BBS Archive - June 29, 1990


Mail from Jeff Beck
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 19:12:33

When the humidity climbs, I am in complete agreement with you.  The weather
in July and August becomes intolerable.  As for the Lard's Revenge, just
remember: the sun shines on the wicked as well as on the good.
[A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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 1:I am without meaningful words as I am burnt out from this past week.  I need
 2:rest, lots of rest.  I've had to drag myself out of bed these past three 
 3:mornings and force myself to go out and make some fucking capitalistic 
 4:dollars so that my landlard will be happy.  What a life!
 5:
 6:Perhaps someday the human animal will get intelligent and then we can have 
 7:an intelligent world.  Won't that be special?  I can hardly wait.

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Message: 67035
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 18:09:01

Re:  "The homes that were destroyed was perhaps a sign from God, a message
or perhaps as punishment for a previous deed or just to bring more converts
into the fold."

I doubt that seriously! 

Message: 67036
Author: Randy Sanders
Category: Tales & Tall Stories
Subject: k Tchelliboue
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 18:32:13

k Tchelliboue
baby blue blonde, batik
Grassy plains of your windswept Faces
Antediluvian strain, Semen's Suns. Froth, loam & Lather.
Clay heat of internal Furnaces in glassy-Eyed Sands.
The gods of the Winds, the Harvest & of the Flocks & Beasts
Silage in Silos, graining wheat stands Fielded. Chaos of Comatose.
Labyrinths profusely mutter
All became defiant, we stood; Triumvirate.
In the Year of the Third Suns.
burning the Wheatfields
Cast of fire-fights into the Night,
Unkempt grasses inhale upon your open Spaces
Your windblown Hair fell across my windtanned Face, your Cause
and Effect. In this Distance,
Platyhelmenthes invade the Flatlands. fasting upon your Abdomen,
Mysentery & Lymph.
Dust of Hum, windstones Insatiate of Interpolate movement. Chant 
their Pythagorus.
You look so stunning in Turtle Oil & Peacock, my Dear.
I shall obtain additional Futures. In this Year of the Third Suns.

Message: 67037
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: hair
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 19:17:38

Rod has made an excellent point: natural hair protects one in the summer
from the heat: man does not have such natural protection, and thus must wear
clothes.  Natural hair also protects one in the winter from the cold:
similarly, man must wear clothes to make up for this lack.  
 
Dean's counterillustration of dogs panting in the heat is misleading.  Dogs
would certainly pant just as much if they lacked hair but had clothes.  Dogs
pant because that is their primary cooling mechanism; they don't sweat.  

Message: 67038
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Answer!
Subject: Roger/captains
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 19:19:25

My dad's bigger than your dad.

Message: 67039
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Question?
Subject: White/Star Trek
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 19:21:25

Whatever happened to the Organian peace treaty?

Message: 67040
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Joke
Subject: Randy's poems
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 19:24:30

Does this remind anyone of a certain skit from In Living Color?  

Message: 67041
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: James W/Carolcom
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 20:16:58

I haven't been on Carolcom. What's the prognosis ?

Message: 67042
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: News Today
Subject: Flag Burning / China
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 21:32:40

        Today the Communist Chinese Government past a LAW against burning
the China flag or from any other disrespect.  You get 3 years in prison for
violating this law. (at least 3 years, if not death)   
        
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- 

Message: 67043
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: For sale
Subject: Amber Monitor (RCA)
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 21:38:58

        The ol' RCA type two wire amber monitor by Roland, model MB-121A
12 inch screen... works fine...  Used (of course) and the owner only wants
$35.00 for it!

        I have it at my place... I can hook it up for you to look at.

Leave me mail in the E[P]O or give me a voice call at 843-3346

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- 

Message: 67044
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Malaysian Justice
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 22:30:31

A businessman was recently put to death in Malaysia.  His crime:
*Possession* of a firearm.  Not misuse, not theft, not armed crime, merely
possession.

I guess if S.1970 passes with the gun registration scheme intact, the death
penalty for possessing firearms can't be far behind.  Call those Senators
and Congressman!!!

Michael "I'm the NRA" Kielsky

Message: 67045
Author: Jeff Lochansky
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: MM School
Date: 06/28/90  Time: 23:26:42

Thank you all for your advice, honest indian.
Well after reading all those post I got on the phone and spent some major
bucks calling most of the companies that DV listed as potential employers.
I talk to dozens of personnel directors, and here are the results:
75% of the mojor companies will hire you if you come from DV after taling
the course I want ( computer information systems ). 
I also checked with the department of labor about DV being accredited, and I
was told they were. I then drove to ASU and I was told that with my
Bacholors of science form DV I could keep right on going towards my masters
if I wanted to.
I also checked on the validity of a DV BS, and got gook responses.
I do have plenty of time till I have to make up my mind wich schoolto go to,
and the VA will pay for ANY school I choose. So if any of you would have
time , I'd love to get together with some of you and talk about this,
because I can use pleny of advice. I guess its just easier to believe
somebody when you look them in the face, nothing personal, honest, just the
way my father taught me. So if anybody will talk to me in person (like over
a cup of coffee or something, I would shurely apriciate it. Just give me a
call or leave a post.
979-0234
Thanks a million for all the advice
Jeff

Message: 67046
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Answer!
Subject: last
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 00:26:53

You have had three people in a row, with absolutley nothing to win
or lose, tell you that it's a *bad* idea to go to DeVry.
 
 
You will go where *you* want to go...just like you'll buy a car
that's a lemon..you'll buy it because you want it.
 
 
My point is that judeging from your post you are already sold
on DeVry and nothings going to change your mind. So stop wasting our
time asking for suggestions.

Message: 67047
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Answer!
Subject: Star Trek /NG
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 00:44:44

Here's my scenario;
When Riker says FIRE, the thing fails to work. Jordy is then
chastized and boy wonder makes a winning suggestion. Meanwhile the
BORG are done with repairs and start to move away..on course with their
original plan. At the last second, the deflector-dish idea works
and blows picard, borg and brick dunny house into next Christmas.
(Borg moved away a sufficient amount of space to prevent Enterprise
from blowing itself up thereby saving the series...)
New female wenchess becomes #1 and Riker gets his Captain's chair.
Q drops in and gives a dissertation somewhere along the line. His hands
will be tied I'll bet...no doubt he;s still on probabtion.
Boy wonder get's a promo for the ingenious suggestion and the Enterpoop
will go into Earthstation dry dock for repairs. Meanwhile, some other
nasty thing will surface ; a storyline no doubt along the lines of
the study of the remaining pieces of BORG ...
The other scenario is that Q does intervene because of his previous
meddling that somehow "prompted the BORG to do something different"
so to replace the normal time-line, he's told to make everything
like it was before the BORG showed up.
(By his Q-peers or suPEERiors.)
Nonetheless, it's a great hours entertainment compared with anything
else currently offered. 

Message: 67048
Author: Hans Glans
Category: My Dinner with...
Subject: Rod's House
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 01:01:16

Sounds like you have it under control. I wish someone had had the wisdom to
plant some trees at my house a few years ago. The only ones were planted on
the edge of the yard, So my house is shaded very little, but my neighbors
carport is shaded well...Any Suggestions on fast growing trees to plant?

Message: 67049
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: DeVry, etc.
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 05:52:06

Jeff, you mentioned that 75% would hire you... but did you ask them if a
DeVry grad would receive the same position and salary as an ASU grad?  Ask
them, perhaps, if they are making the same amount of money after 3-5 years?

Message: 67050
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hans/trees
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 07:51:29

One of the fastest growing trees that I have first hand knowledge is the
silver dollar eucaliptus (sp?) We put one in about 3 1/2 years ago - now it
has a trunk that's almost a foot wide and it's way taller than the house and
lots of shade. It doesn't loose it's leaves at all - just all the time. Not
bad though. Another fast growner is the Mulberry - but it does loose it's
leaves in the winter. But lots of shade. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 67051
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod / Dying
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 09:17:25

"Each day I expect to die and when I don't then oh well, I make the best of
it."
 
By the time the day is ended, and you realized you aren't dying, what time
do you have left to do anything else?
 
Daryl
(Ro 5:1-2)

Message: 67052
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod / Fire
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 09:23:00

   As a Christian, I cannot even make speculations as the eternal fate of
those involved in the fire. I can only pray and hope for the best for them.
 
   However, my God is more loving and forgiving than this sadistic "Mother
Nature" you keep talking about.
 
Daryl
(Ro 5:1-2)

Message: 67053
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod / Sign From God
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 09:33:44

   You seem to forget that Christ took the punishment for sin FOR us when he
died on the cross. The punishment has already been meted out. As a Lutheran
(and if I'm not mistaken, you said you were a Lutheran before you became an
atheist so you should KNOW this), I believe that since all sins were atoned
for through the death and resurrection of Christ, God cannot demand
atonement for sin again. To suggest that he does is not only unscriptural,
it also implies that the work of Christ was inefficient.
   Unbelief in Christ and the justification that has been given to us
through him is the only thing that can condemn.
   Why do things happen like this fire? We do not know, and again, we cannot
speculate. God's ways are not ours. We can only comfort ourselves in the
knowledge that God's will is always good. We may not understand why things
happen now, but Someday, we will.

Daryl
(Php 2:6-11)

Message: 67054
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod / 67023
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 09:35:32

   I noticed you did not comment on this post.
 
Daryl
(Php 2:6-11)

Message: 67055
Author: $ James White
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod's death
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 14:10:59

Rod:
        Well, at *best* you'd have about fifty--sorry, I was being
optimistic for you, is that OK?  In either case, we both will know better
within a short period of time (50 years), will we not?
   
James>>>

Message: 67056
Author: $ James White
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Organian peace...
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 14:13:39

Wish I knew--I mean, right now, about the only way I can see Picard
surviving is if Q comes popping into the scene and fixes everything--and, if
they did that, no one would watch the series anymore, rightly, I would
think.  But, the Organians might show up again, too, unless they have
evolved into apathetic super-beings.
   
James>>>

Message: 67057
Author: $ James White
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: CarolCom
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 14:14:43

I don't know--Carol says the program won't load, and today when I tried the
line was busy, which, I hope, is a good sign.  Keep trying.
   
James>>>
   
....if you don't keep trying, you'll find Warf in your shower!

Message: 67058
Author: $ James White
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Season finale
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 14:17:04

Those, unfortunately, are all possibilities, the first one you gave being
dangerously like my own prediction.  Does anyone know when the new season
starts???
   
James>>>

Message: 67059
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Trekkies
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 18:08:40

       I did not realize so many of you were trekkies, even if it is the New
Generation.  

        When I first started watching the 'Second Generation Star Trek' TV
series, I did not like it.  But in time, with character development and
better scripts, I now enjoy it.

        Keep then Trekkie posts coming....... *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp
*=*  <-clif- 

P.S.  I have this vision... next post Zak will be correcting my spelling
of the word 'Trekkies'

Message: 67060
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: "Trekies"
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 19:06:04

Isn't it spelled "trekkies"?  (with 2 'k's?)
 
According to Gene Roddenberry, most of these people prefer the less
derogatory term "trekkors."  Gene points out that trekkors aren't just
youngsters who make weird hand signals to each other; many trekkors are
lawyers, businessmen, bank presidents, and even a great many astronauts.
     I have video footage of a Star Trek wedding that took place a few years
ago.  The bride had silver nail polish and vulcan ears.  The priest started
the ceremony with "We are gathered here today, in the presence of God...and
the Star Federation..."
     Remember the time William Shatner was a guest on Saturday Night Live? 
He was speaking at a mock Star Trek convention.  Somebody asked him what the
combination number was for a safe on one of the episodes, said him and a
friend had been arguing about it.  Shatner got frustrated and finally
said, "Get a life!"  The trekkors were taken aback.  "You, you there..."
(he points to Jon Lovitch wearing Star Trek getup) "...Have you ever
kissed a girl?"  Lovitch bows his head in shame.
     Have any of you seen Star Trek 5 (the movie)?  Remember the scene in
which Bones, Spock and Kirk are sitting around a campfire, and Bones and
Kirk were getting all p.o.'ed because Spock wouldn't sing "Row Row Row Your
Boat" with them?  Spock's objection:  "I do not understand the words -- life
is *not* but a dream."  Bones was getting all freaked out:  "It's a song,
you sing it for fun!" and they were like totally putting down Spock because
he wouldn't sing their geeky old song.  But at the end he gave in.  Geek...

Message: 67061
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: flag burning
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 19:28:44

     They sell little flags at Tang's Imports (and probably a thousand other
places) for just a couple bucks.  Let's all get together and get our little
American flags and some Bic lighters and have a big ol' Flag Burning GT.  We
can roast them in bonfires and eat antipatriotic marshmallows.  But remember
-- you can't microwave a flag.  Hey, we can also have a flag shooting GT
some time, but that's later.  I bet Cliff can hit the stars.  But like I was
saying, let's have a flag burning GT and exercise our Constitutional rights.
This will give Dean something *real* good to videotape.
     Oh, by the way, I saw Dean's GT tape.  I heard you all had a GT tape
GT.  Now there's an idea -- having a GT in which everybody sits around and
watches old GTs.  Oh my.  But I must say, I rather enjoyed Dean's opening
scene in which each person was shown.  The music wasn't right though, he
should have mixed it with "send in the clowns" or something.  Ho ho.  
     Oh, by the way, I'm over at Rod's again - got no modem interface to
call my own.  I'll be going to school soon, so you all have yourselves the
most pleasant of summers (If MLK ever really did say "burn baby burn!" it
was most likely in Phoenix) and...whatever.
     Rod's son, Jon, is sitting here next to me and begging me to play
Dungeon Master with him.  ("No I'm not!" he's saying.  "Nerd!")  Before he
was whining, "When are you going to get off?" repeatedely.  What a little
geekazoid.  Now he's punching my arm.  Ouch.
     Gotta go.

Message: 67062
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bob/fires
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 20:37:46

Then perhaps there is hope for you Bob.  I didn't think that the fires were
caused by God to take revenge on people or for any other reason.  Good
going.

Message: 67063
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sanders, Randy
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 20:38:09

What type of LSD are you taking?

Message: 67064
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hans/trees
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 20:46:22

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.  A Mulberry tree grows like wildfire.  In
two seasons it becomes a full blown shade tree (although it may be
classified as a bush?).  

If you are allergic to pollen then don't plant one because this plant gives
a goodly amount off from time to time.

Ours came about by accident.  One day it was there in the yard and several
months later it was very big.  It shades the western part of the house from
the 3 to 5 oclock heat.

The bonus is that you can eat the juicy fruit of that tree.  But the stains
are pretty horrid. 

Message: 67065
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: School/Jeff L.
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 20:56:40

I know of a good school that you may want to attend although it is VERY
expensive.  It is the C.R. Williams School of Computer Sciences.  Last I
heard a semester was $4,500.  

But the good part is that once you have completed and earned your degree you
will receive half of what you paid in, in cash money.

The first course is learning how to play Dungeon Master with a whining 10
year old.  This will, of course, teach you several subjects at once.

Next you will learn to break into government computer bases and list the
C.R. Williams School of Computer Sciences on the accrediated list.

Won't it be fun.  

Lastly the school can guarantee placement as a genuine key punch operator in
a the third world country of your choice where you will be given your very
own Vic-20 or a Commodore Pet if you have high grades.

Go for it.

Message: 67066
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 20:58:56

The brightly shining mistle toe.
Met the holy face.
Around the mulberry tree,
All men go.

I trust that you will take this in answer to your last several posts.

                        Rod
P.S.  I would only give my life for a tree if it had enough sex appeal.  All
trees do not appeal to me.

Message: 67067
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: The Flag
Date: 06/29/90  Time: 21:03:34

I have a fairly large 48 star American Flag.  It has become worn and frayed
over the years and I'm sad to say that it has touched the ground (but it was
American ground) more than once. 

Well, the last time it fell (last Friday) was the 'straw' and I would like
to get together with a few friends and do the correct thing.

You all are invited to a Flag burning party on the steps of the Arizona
Capital to take place at midnight, July 4, 1990.  Come one, come all.

Be there or be square.  

If anyone out there has an abused flag that needs to be properly taken care
of then this is the time.

Boxes of Kleenix will be provided but BYOB.