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Message: 6568
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Annie
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 16:12:49
Re: "I certainly hope you did not view anything but the GT's"
Gee, Annie, can I borrow your video of the GTs?
Message: 6569
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff/Zone
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 22:41:50
I thought it was destroyed.
Daryl
(Ro 5:1-2)
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Message: 3903
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rot-
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 13:44:32
I would say "Fuck You", but that would be too much fun to wish on an
asshole like yourself. Instead, I hope you never, ever get 'ANY NOOKY'
ever again. And, may your Pipes freeze up!
GRIN (-;} <-clif-
Yippy-yi-yee, mother fucker!
Message: 3904
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: $#!+
Subject: censorship
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 14:55:26
The one thing that has kept the Apollo board live these past 8 years has
been Cliffie's ever-lovin' ever watchful presence. If he wants to change
the "RULES" he has a right to, but he should post them on the Public Board
for all to read.
If any of you adults have ever logged onto one of the children's
boards, you are aware of the inane, mindless profanity that their main SIGs
are sprinkled with.
For myself, I prefer the Public Board to remain "G" rated. If Miz Dee wants
to masturbate in public with a loaded gun, or Zak or Rod wants to wow us
"squares" with the endless dreck they spout, let 'em do it here, where only
consenting adults have the privilege of logging in.
**** Gary ****
Message: 3905
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Shit-Chat!
Subject: Last
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 18:47:07
Amen.
Message: 3906
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Answer !
Subject: Clif-, Gary, Mike
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 23:39:36
Satan loves you.
P.S. See, Cliff, the kid boards have more dirty words than the so-called
grown up boards. I suspected that those little motherfuckers knew more than
us. Damn I'm mad.
And I have explained to my children, all of them, that FUCK is not a bad
word. A bad word, explains I, is one that is meant to hurt and that word
could be literally anything.
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Message: 798
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Daryl
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 16:20:16
Re: "I'm looking forward to seeing that film. Probably when it shows up
over at Glendale Super Saver"
It's already at Valley West for 99 cents. Just how cheap are you anyway?
:-) (-: :-) (-: :-) :-) (-: :-) (-: :-) (-: :-) (-:
I haven't seen "Crazy People" yet.
We did rent the BTTF II video this weekend. I liked it, but not as much as
number 1. I noticed a significant increase in profanity. Too bad, since I
see it as basically a youth movie.
Message: 799
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 22:51:52
IZZIT?
gNARLY, d00d.
I'll hafta check it out.
Daryl
(Ro 5:1-2)
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Message: 1829
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 06/08/90 Time: 23:22:55
Wow. I actually enjoyed that post(I'm going to hate myself in the morning).
Message: 1830
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: War!
Subject: Hey
Date: 06/09/90 Time: 00:26:08
You simply *can't* enjoy anything posted by a gun slinging
brick-throwing loud-mouthed activist.
That'd be heresy.
Message: 1831
Author: $ Jeff Beck
Category: Growl...
Subject: ugh.
Date: 06/09/90 Time: 01:06:40
I feel like sharing intimate and embarassing details of my life. Tonight, I
had an irresistable urge to clean my ears with a car key. I gave in to this
urge after cleaning the key with rubbing alcohol. Now, however, my ears
hurt. My teeth also hurt, though I didn't use the key to pick my teeth.
Still, it was satisfying to see the gluey wax stuck in that recessed slot
which runs down the side of the key. It's a car key, by the way.
Well, goodnight.
Message: 1832
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Answer!
Subject: Rod/Phx. Mecca
Date: 06/09/90 Time: 23:07:12
Well, since we are in the west and Moslems pray to the east, that equates to
a lot of hineys aimed in our direction.
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Message: 1834
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: GM keys
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 23:51:03
As noted in this months AMA Journal of Medicine, the composition of General
Motor Automobile keys causes AIDS. It was discovered that a worker for the
Briggs & Stratton Division had contracted AIDS and usually spat into the
molten brass. But in 1986 he slipped while preparing the mixture and fell
into the vat. He immediately dissolved and no part of him has ever been
found.
People are being asked not to scratch the skin with GM keys or if they have
then to go immediately to their family doctor or their local mortuary.
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Message: 66451
Author: Mike Middleton
Category: Answer!
Subject: Reason
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 13:23:08
Well, I do not know what I am in favor of in the area of gun control. I was
hoping for a reasonable discussion of my statement that perhaps the time has
come to consider resonable gun control. Instead I got told I float to the
top of the cesspool of cowardace, yellow-belly side up, to perform preverted
sexual acts on myself, to move to China, and that I was not welcome on this
BBS. Real mature discussion! I just returned from a week in the High Sierras
smelling the odor of dead pine trees (air pollution weakened them for the
bark beetles to finish the job). I'd guess that 1/4 of the trees in Yosemite
are dead. Then I went over to the coast to see our National Forest Service
aiding greedy lumber companies to clear cut the last stands of virgin
ancient Redwood Forest. Now I am back to the smell of gunpowder and hot
metal as I try again to discuss with those who claim to follow the world's
greatest pacifist, Jesus Christ, and who call themselves by His name, yet
think evil is something you can point your weapon at and dispatch with a few
well-educated and well-aimed volleys of lead. SO! Let's think about the
ENEMY... is it Soviet Tanks rolling down Central and running over unarmed
innocents at the corner of Van Buren Street?
Mike MIDDLETON
Message: 66452
Author: Mike Middleton
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: THEY?
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 13:30:45
Thanks for your post! But who are THEY? Perhaps the law that is external
will never free us. Perhaps when we die to our own self-defensiveness and
fears of "THEM" is when we get to walk surrounded by Love, filled to
overflowing with Grace, and united in the Fellowship of peace. Perhaps the
most radical thing I say is not the little phrases others misquote or extend
to the absurd, perhaps it is that love and humble service to others
characterize those called Christian far better than proficiency with a
weapon of murder and hate. Christian gun-lover is as incredible an oxymoron
as being called a coward for standing up for what I believe. What is
"Salvation" if not being freed from ourselves?
Mike MIDDLETON
Message: 66453
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike Middleton
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 14:00:42
Funny, I don't recall seeing where you were not welcome on this BBS.
It is a fact that You, Hans Glans and Mad Max have made me manualy lower the
((SHIELD)) level of Apollo to it's lowest level in YEARS... just so you
guys could get in that 'extra' post. I for one do not agree with you, but
I see value in your posts... and you are most welcome to post them!
It's not Soviet Tanks that I worry about... It's U.S. Tanks that we
may someday fear. The Pollish people had 'reasonable' gun control by
registration. Was it 'reasonable' that those who followed the law of
registration got Shot when the Russians invaded and took over Poland and the
list of 'registered' gun owners?
You always 'skim' over opposing gun posts to that of your own. So
how can we have a reasonable discussion, when you yourself refuse to listen
to people who just may have something at stake. How much weapon knowledge
do you possess?
Welcome BACK from your vacation of rotting tree odors!
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif-
Message: 66454
Author: Mike Middleton
Category: War!
Subject: Gun control
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 15:19:44
re: Msg: 66199 Author: $ Apollo SYSOP, in reference to me: "What a
JERK!" My reply: "Bravery" and "Christianity" clearly demonstrated in
personal insults? I think I must be getting close to the Truth that
hurts!
Sysop: "You can't even talk to this guy without him calling you a 'Gun-
Nut'" My reply: I did not call you a gun nut. I said that "gun-nuts" are
forcing those who favor resonable control of guns into extreme
positions. This is one of the bigger factors in the push for control,
that gun-lovers seem fairly incapable of rational thought on the matter.
It was meant in the generic sense and I still think it is true. It was
not personally directed to anyone.
Sysop: (still to me personally) "He talks about Christ like he was a
Christian... he is not a Christian...he is a joke! A coward....A
trator" My reply: I would be glad to explain what Jesus really taught
and modeled if you are ever interested. 938-6866.
re: Msg. 66200 (Author: $ Apollo SYSOP) "I lived in New York.... One of
the toughest gun control law states...I owned MORE hand guns...very easy
to get in the underground." My reply: You *admit* that you allowed your
love of these weapons to motivate you to break the law? Heaven help us!
Who is the criminal? Who will protect us from our protectors? Are you
breaking Arizona law now?
Message: 66455
Author: Mike Middleton
Category: War!
Subject: Gun control
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 15:20:22
Msg 66210: Mike Carter "I have left that ailment of raging hormones..."
My reply: Was that before or after you told me to stick it in my nose?
MC/ "Don't worry Mikey, you'll reap what you're seeding..." My reply: We
all will do that, Mr. Carter, rest assured. In the meantime, guns won't
free you from your own fears and hates and enslavements.
MC/ "Armed citizens who have been trained to handle a weapon are safer
than citizens who own a car and have a state driver's license." My
reply: Yes, so, why not insist on the same sort of registration and
training and liicensing procedure for gun owners as for car drivers? Why
not have an age, classes, tests, picture-IDs, re-tests, etc. for guns?
What's so unreasonable about that?
I NEVER EVER SAID OR EVEN HINTED AT THE POSITION THAT I FAVOR DISARMING
OUR POPULATION. I MERELY SAID THAT MAYBE THE TIME HAS COME TO CONSIDER
RESONABLE GUN CONTROL. YOU AND CLIFF ARE THE ONES WHO PUT ALL THOSE
EXTREME POSITIONS ON THIS BBS AS THOUGH I HAD TYPED THEM AND YOU WERE
NOW ARGUING WITH THEM. My current position is that your reaction to my
statement shows a temper, deep personal insecurity, over-reaction,
bullying ways, and an immaturity that would be very dangerous when
coupled with a loaded gun! You scare me. Your concern for the Right to
Keep and Bear Arms (which I never faintly challenged) over-rides the
Rights of those who engage you in discussion and Free Speech.
Message: 66456
Author: Mike Middleton
Category: War!
Subject: Gun control
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 15:22:24
re: Msg 66202: Jeff Lochansky JL/"Where do you get of calling a sport
that millions of people enjoy a quote * dangerous and pointless hobby *"
My reply: I "get off" expressing my opinion because I don't see the
point of playing with guns and I have enough personal knowledge of
tragedy and injury to call it dangerous. Spend a weekend as a volunteer
in the Emergency Room of County Hospital and report back to me.
JL/ "...yellow bellied idiots like you should move to China, not Russia
mind you, because they are trying to archive freedom and fools like you
might spoil it for them if you carried your views over there. THE MAD
MAX" My reply: You grammar is unclear. Where did you want me to move away
to?
Is there a place far enough away where you won't be bothered by the
Gospel? I doubt it. Freedom comes when we are bound to the Will of God
for our lives, not when we happen to agree with someone. We only come to
know our purpose and why we were created when we die with Jesus. It is
the Cross that brings freedom, not guns in the hands of the name-callers
of this world. If my belly is as yellow as the Apollo Users Collective
claims it is, then I would probably fit right into China. I am going to
stay here and keep rattling the cages of the self-righteous, ex-Army
Ranger types, name-calling or not. So, my views will stay, Mr. Trained-
Killer Mad Max. I will continue to take the "coward's" way out and state
what I believe using my own name and without a gun to hide behind while
doing it.
Message: 66457
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 15:55:20
Re: "I haven't been called Rogey since I was 10 years old."
If it was me, it must have been a typo.
Message: 66458
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Middleton
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 16:06:40
Re: "SO! Let's think about the ENEMY... is it Soviet Tanks rolling down
Central and running over unarmed innocents at the corner of Van Buren
Street?"
Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world
and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Message: 66459
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Reasonable
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 16:55:19
Tell me Mike Middleton, what in your mind is reasonable Gun control?
Anything like Poland? Or more like Estonia? Right now it is against the
law for a felon to buy or own a gun. Yet they do! My problem with more
laws (yes, they have plenty now) is that they keep hurting mr Good Guy, and
not mr Bad Guy.
As I pointed out in New York (and you went into name calling here,
calling me a criminal) I was able to obtain hand guns at the age of ten.
If I could do it as a small boy, could not a full grown criminal? If for
once you would get off your high horse, and answer some of thes questions,
maybe we could converse without trying to get your attention by name
calling.
Answer. Was it 'Reasonable' for the regestered Polish gun owners to
be shot by the Russians even after the Germans had disarmed them?
Was it 'Reasonable' to have the Red army shoot my relitives after
gun control took away their weapons?
Is it 'Reasonable' to assume that history can repeat its self?
Is it 'Reasonable' that if we give up the Constitutional RIGHT to
carry and bare arms, then the RIGHT to FREE Speech or the Right to religious
belief of our choosing, can be taken away as easily? Once the Guns are
gone, it will even be an easier task.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif-
Message: 66460
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Reasonable Mike
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 17:19:45
From the Statistical Abstract of the United States by the
U.S. Bureau of the Census
You are 26 times more likely to DIE in a car accident then from a
gun. You are 7 times more likely to die by falling down. You are 2 times
more likely to die by drowning. You are 2.7 times more likely to die by
being poisoned.
Five years after the new 'GUN Control' law in New Jersey went into
effect, murders rose by 65.7 %, rape rose 55.9%, and robbery jumped a
staggering 245%
Mike M. You need not fear me... I would love to chat with you
sometimes. if you have a hysteria about this, then you should forget YOUR
idea about standing infront of tanks naked, because I am of a far less
threat. No kidding, after handling weapons for 35 years, I have never hurt
a sole... not a one! I have never pulled a gun in anger... and I hope to
God, that I never, never have to pull one on another man.
If you THINK you saw real bad wounds in a hospital, I wish my
Grandpa was still around to tell you what his family and whole village
looked like when he came home after the Russians pulled out. Problem was,
back in those days, they thought they lived in modern times and things like
that would not happen. *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif-
Message: 66461
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike M...
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 17:20:23
Again, welcome back... We missed ya!
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif-
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Message: 66462
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike M.
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 18:41:40
Welcome back brother.
Message: 66463
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: $tatus users only
Subject: HUH >?<
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 19:00:50
I was under the long-standing impression that nobody except the
author of a message and the Sysop were capable of edting a non-status
user's message.
I too am in favor of actions before words...but I think you should
lighten up on your snippity remark, Cliff, because I might not be
the only other person who was unaware of that.
Now before you think I'm upset , I'm not, nor do I really think your
message was snippity. It was a little suprising though.
Message: 66464
Author: $ Mike Carter
Category: Answer!
Subject: Daryl
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 19:04:12
Not at all. Being a "silent" user would be like me trying to
hold my breath for 20 minutes after running a 2 mile sprint.
I'd go blue in the face.
Besides, you should also note that if we were to be literalists about
the whole book, that passage would tell us to put our heads, thoughts
and collective attentions in the sand whenever something "nasty"
came up.
I for one am not proud enough to ignore good advice from a good friend.
So stop your wretching about it already.
Message: 66465
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: bob
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 19:30:44
It probably was line noise. I have found that I get line noise when
calling from an 862 exchange.
Message: 66467
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Rod W. msg 66446
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 21:52:26
Social graces.... You know... Like only farting when no one is
looking.... then leaving the area fast pretending someone else did it.
If you need to brush up on these however...just watch Bart Simpson like I
do. He teaches me a lot!
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif-
Message: 66468
Author: $ John Cummings
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Middleton/Christ
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 22:13:56
I don't think Christ was a gutless wimp, united in the fellowship of
Peace. On the contrary, he was the strongest Man I've imagined (reminds me
of a First Sergeant in the 101st Airborne who told me I'd be a dead liberal
if I didn't shape up.) The way he handled the money changers in the templed
and the way he described what happens to the "luke warm" people who get spit
out of God's mouth convince me that He was one strong Company Commander. He
came with a mission, and he took no s--t from anyone in fulfilling it. I
think if it were available, He would not have used an AK-47 (not accurate
enough), but He'd have qualified Expert or Sharpshooter with the M-1 or the
03 Springfield, and I think one of them would have been his piece. And the
.45 sidearm, with a full clip, but empty chamber. Right, Clif?
Sorry for the typos--I don't edit well. --John Cummings.--
Message: 66469
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Tales & Tall Stories
Subject: The [S]hields!
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 22:40:16
Scotty, can't you divert some power into the shields? We're being attacked
by non-$tatus users!
Message: 66470
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Baptism
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 22:55:56
Though one can become 'born again' without baptism, baptism is a washing
of rebirth, and an assurance that we ARE born again. Through the word of
God in baptism the Holy Spirit creates or strengthens faith in us, so that
we trust God's promise and make the blessings of baptism our own.
Daryl
(Ps 130:5-6)
Message: 66471
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/Geek Killer
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 23:02:47
You consider valueless rubbish like that to be a bright spot? "Keep up
the good work, geek killer, where ever you are"??!?!??!?
Rod?
Shall I take my bags of household trash and apply for a NEA grant to
display them? They contain more redeeming value than the aforementioned
"Mongo(?)" posts.
Daryl
(Ps 130:5-6)
Message: 66472
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: $tatus users only
Subject: Mike C/Editing
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 23:17:29
A $tatus user can't, at least not under his own $tatus account. But it is
certainly easy enough to log in under a non-$tatus user's logged-in name to
do so. Of course, this should be done with utmost discretion, and only for
such purposes as editing and/or deleting obscene messages, as this can
and does have potential to be abused.
Daryl
(Ps 130:5-6)
Message: 66473
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike/Philippians 4:8
Date: 06/10/90 Time: 23:29:30
No, I would disagree with you there. An alternate translation reads:
"...keep your minds on all that is true, all that is noble, all that is
right, all that is pure, all that is lovely, all that is appealing - on
anything that is excellent or that deserves praise." (NET)
The passage does not tell us to hide our heads in the sand. But it does
tell us not to dwell, pursue, or participate in the impure. If we hide our
heads, how can we expose sin for what it is?
This is not to say that someone couldn't misinterpret this passage to
justify an ostrich-like lifestyle. But that is not the fault of the text.
Daryl
(Ro 5:1-2)
Message: 66474
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/geek killer
Date: 06/11/90 Time: 00:02:16
Yes, I think we should give him (GK) honorary lifetime status. At least
(after you edited it) it was something different and really did no real harm
(even before you edited it). On the kid boards in town that particular fare
would be considered real mild.
Anytime I want to view so-called dirty words I log on one of them just so I
can have a good laugh. Don't worry, my friend, I'm already going to lleh so
what more can be done to me.
(Book of Bob v. 10,001-10,010)
Message: 66475
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl
Date: 06/11/90 Time: 00:04:11
Read the rules, buddy. It is illegal to log on under an assumed name unless
you have paid for that name. Besides, I strongly suspect that the Geek
Killer was you all along. -Rod
Message: 66476
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl, your last
Date: 06/11/90 Time: 00:06:03
Re: "alternate translations"
Yes, there seems to be quite a few of them alternate translations.
(Book of Bob v. 10,010-10,011)
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