Apollo BBS Archive

Apollo BBS Archive - June 16, 1989

 
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Message: 185
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: SYSOP Speaks
Subject: Chris Zagar
Date: 06/15/89  Time: 21:47:36
 
Chris Zagar.... Do * NOT * read this post!  Leave this SIG for now!
                                                                        
                                                                    
                                                                         
        Most of the elite Apollo Users know the very important roll that
Chris Zagar played in the development of Apollo.  With out his help and
genius in the fine art of trick programing, I doubt Apollo would have lived
past one year, never mind seven!  Well, Mr Zagar has come a long way from
when I first met him and is now about to get married in a few months.  I
believe it will be sometime in mid September.  Let me get to the point...I
would like Apollo to show him he is remembered by getting him a nice special
wedding gift from all us main users.  I think I have been able to obtain
something that I know he will just love and for sure will be a nice reminder
of his Apollo friends and a rewarding thanks for his hard work and the
hundreds of hours spent working on Apollo.  This item in mind costs over
$200.00 (a tad), and I will go it alone if I have to with no ill feelings,
as Apollo has brought me lots of joy and many fine friends.  All worth a lot
more to me than a mere two hundred bucks.
        
        If you would like more info on this, give me a call or post ONLY on
this SIG!  I am sure if Chris should log in, he will honor my request and
not read these posts.  (He is so love struck, I doubt he has time to view
this SIG)
SYSOP Cliff & Sandy

Message: 186
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Un-user
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 00:09:22

        I just made Chris an un-user of this SIG... just in case.
However.... he has the power to over-ride that and make himself a member of
ANY SIG.  He probably will ask me first why he is not a member of this SIG
.....  I just had an IDEA!  If we rename this SIG the FEM SIG, Chris would
not even think of looking!   Hmmmmmmm  

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 187
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 04:27:22

I'll be glad to contribute. Fill me in whenever you get around to it.

Message: 188
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 07:33:16

I also will contribute. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 189
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Great!
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 09:04:06

        I just posted this last night and I have already gotten three
responses, one in mail and two here.  GREAT!  
        
        Can you people think of anyother Apollo users that should be in this
SIG?  You know, solid Apolloites that might like to share in this venture?

Cliff

Message: 190
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Gift
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 17:17:27

I'm willing to contribute, but will be short on cash at least until next
month.

Message: 191
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last/James
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 17:32:41

        No hurry here....  We do have plenty of time.  That is why I posted
a few months early.  But I am pleased you wish to contribute... thanks!

Cliff

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The SYSOP intervenes...
:19thanks Rod....  I just finnished talking to JT  and I am sending him a 
:picture of the gift I have ordered.
:
:What kind of gift?
:
:A Pewter StarShip Enterprise.. from the Franklin mint.  It is done up real 
:well and is being sponcered by Parramount pictures and it will be signed by 
:Gene Roddenberry (sp).
:
:Neat....I assume that Chris is a 'trekkie'.  He will like it then.
:
:He is a TREKKIE all the way man...   JT said we should put a brass plaque on
:the base from Apollo and list the users that contributed...  I like the 
:idea..  as you know, Chris donated hundreds of hours in Apollo!
:
:I know.  The base plate is a very good idea.  By the way, if you have 
:trouble spelling Apollo then it is time to quit, (ha-ha).
:
:hahhahahaha too much grass tonight...  I am excited over the responce for 
:this gift... I called the Franklin mint in PA to make sure they got my 
:order.    I left hawley mail (he is giving too)  to asdk if he knows anyone 
:who engraves?  do you?  I mean a good engraver....????
:
:
:Not off hand.  What about Nick?  He works in his mom's art gallery and they 
:probably have brass, engraved plates.....but other than that, I don't know.
:
:Hey, good idea...  (Nick is giving too)   Nice that the real regulars and 
:long time users who remember Chris are giving...it will mean so much to him!
:
:I know.  I'm sure he will love it.
:
:I hope so...  at 208.00   he should not get too many of 
:these...hahahhahahahahahahhahahahah
:
:
:Pewter is nice.  We have a pewter plate from the Smithsonian Institute.  It 
:feels and looks good and is long lasting.  Should last through the next 
:nuclear war.
:
:yes!!!!   JT was telling me he sent you something... with pictures of him 
:and....    can you send me a copy? 
:
:Sure, I have it in my copy stack and next time (this weekend) when I fire up
:the copier I will make one for you.  It is all about JT, Meese and the ACLU.
: JT won his suit.
:
:yes,  that is great!!!!!       I have to go now...super... and thanks for 
:joining in on the great gift...come over and visit me sometimes...and 
:Sandy....  bring  Jasmin if you want... I have cold drugs (pepsi)
:
:Okay.....will do.....well, off to the wars, eh!  I'll drop by.  I'll call 
:first.
:
:yes...always do that as sometoimes I take off...  bye bye
:
:*Bye, bye
:
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Message: 59263
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
Subject: Batman
Date: 06/15/89  Time: 19:04:27

        May I suggest a 'Batman GT' for ALL BBS users to be held on June 24
or 25th.  Or are too many of you to OLD for such things as a Batman Movie.
I know Ann is....
                Besides, she will be playing with her 'Bat Thang'.

Seriously, anyone interested?

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 59264
Author: James McKern
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann Oudin/59257-8
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 01:40:36

I'm not going to attack your message.  I merely wanted to point out
that "their" is a possessive pronoun, and you used it when you
meant to use "they're", which is a contraction for "they are."
Also, the aphorism you quoted is very old, far too old for you
to have coined.  You said: "To coin an old addage (sic)..."
The verb coin means to create, or to invent.
 
Teehee.

Message: 59265
Author: James McKern
Category: Answer!
Subject: Rod/laws
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 01:48:41

First of all, if the (American) students who started the fire
were unaware that there were people on the train, at the time the students
started the fire, the charge for deaths in such a case could not be
first degree murder.  Most likely, manslaughter would be the charge.  Since
manslaughter does not carry the death penalty, they could not have been
legally sentenced to death for such an act.  If, however, they knew that
there were people on the train, and set a fire with intent to kill, then
they could be charged with murder, and given the death penalty: just so.
In any event, there is no comparison between giving the death penalty for an
act of murder, and giving the death penalty for an act of vandalism carried
out in the name of political demonstration.  If the Chinese students
attacked a vehicle out of self defense, then again, there is no comparison.

Message: 59267
Author: Paul Carelli
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Holland/R. Williams
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 03:17:45

Have you ever been to Holland?  I have and I thought it was great.  It is
amazing how so many "crimes" occur legally and yet the place is so peaceful
and laid back.  Of course I only stayed a little while and I was viewing the
place as an outsider (though I tried not to).  I'm not suggesting that they
don't have problems over there, but they SEEM better off then we are (in
some matters at least).

Message: 59268
Author: Paul Carelli
Category: Question?
Subject: Poets and Politics
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 03:22:24

  Why are all of you discussing taxes, education, the situation in china,
and what's right and wrong when this sort of behavior is just "a token
gesture which carrie[s] with it no real risk, and which occur[s] long after
it [can] accomplish anything?"

Message: 59269
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Maiking petitions
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 06:17:42

Oops! That should have read mailing petitions, and to the best information I
got in the petition circulating class I attended it is illegal. The person
circulating the petition MUST personally witness each and every signature on
that petition, and must swear to that fact before a notary before the
petition is acceptable. To do otherwise constitutes fraud.
 Just thoght you might like to know before you goof.

Message: 59270
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Politics
Subject: Cliff/China
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 07:31:31

Rod said it right about them setting a train afire and six people were
killed. They also beat 21 railway security officials.  900 bags of mail were
distroyed. They also set fire to police motorcycles. Granted, in this
country they'd probably get a slap on the wrist for such action - except for
distroying the mail. For that offence, they'd spend their life in a federal
prison without parole! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 59271
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Cliff/GT
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 07:43:32

You say I'm too old for a Batman movie GT? - a person that owns such movies
as Robocop - Godzilla (the original) Godzilla 1985 - King Kong (the
original) - King Kong lives - Mothra - The Thing - Aliens 1 & 2 - Nightmare
on Elm Street 1,2,3,4 - Friday the 13th part 1 through 5 - Preditor - The
Terminator - Ghost Story - Godzilla vs Megalon - Godzilla vs the Sea Monster
- Buggs Bunny the movie etc. etc. is too old for Batman? How young (at
heart) do you gotta be? -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 59272
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Get-Togethers (GTs)
Subject: BatMan...
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 14:32:43

        So far no interest?  The signal is being sent.... SOS GT....
SOS GT....  SOS GT....  SOS GT....  SOS GT....

(Poof!)

Message: 59273
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 16:15:55

How about a "Earth Girls are Easy" GT?

Message: 59275
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oudin
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 18:56:53

Perhaps this point can be made more clearly by way of analogy.  Let us
suppose you have two married couples.  Ann and Rod, the first couple, have a
nightmare of a relationship.  There is little affection between them.  They
fight often, and both have extramarital affairs.  Rod frequently beats Ann,
and he abuses their children.  The second couple, Kevin and Millie, have
basically a good relationship.  They are affectionate, enjoy each other's
company most of the time, but occasionally have arguments and do not always
meet each other's sexual expectations.  Now, suppose Millie and Ann are
friends, and Millie hears of Ann's troubles, so she tries to counsel Ann how
to improve or end her marriage with Rod.  Would you say the two marriages
are not fundamentally different?  Is Millie doing something wrong because
she's concerning herself with her friend's marital problems more intently
than her own?  Is Millie "smug" if she says she loves Kevin and is basically
satisfied with him despite his imperfections?

Of course, the answer to all these questions is no.  But these are exactly
the kinds of arguments you are making with respect to politics.  Because our
country is imperfect, it is no different from an absolute dictatorship. 
Because our country is imperfect, it is wrong to criticize other countries
that are absolute dictatorships.  Because our country is imperfect, those of
us who love it are "smug."

I think your political views are obscene.  For your husband's sake and
yours, I hope your attitude toward marriage is not the same.

Message: 59276
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: James McKern
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 19:26:37

        Perhaps the students were charged with treason.  Treason carries a
death penalty.  But, I really do not know the facts.  I find it hard to
believe every last detail, as reported, on the China issue.  For that matter
it is good to carry a grain of salt around in your pocket.  Recently though,
I have been scraping it (salt) from my forehead.   -Rod 
P.S.  Thanks for the response.

Message: 59277
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul Carelli
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 19:30:18

        I am attempting to find out every detail about Holland that I can. 
Today, while talking to a friend who also has been there, he said that
present day Holland is a model for the world.  The U.S. once was that model
but we are going to have to help bring about some necessary changes in order
to regain that position.  It is possible that we can do this and that leaves
me with a good feeling.  I do not speak Dutch so I will remain here and hope
for the best.  Thanks   -Rod

Message: 59278
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 19:32:04

Thank you for the information on petitions.  I am new at this but am
learning quick.  Thanks again,  -Rod

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Message: 430
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 04:15:18

I have never eaten Texas Chili.  Why are you making up such silly
statements?

Message: 431
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: JT
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 05:39:53

He should join the human race first.
=)) OLD FART RALPH ((=

Message: 432
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Ralphy/last
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 07:36:13

Very good Ralphy. My sentiment exactly. XX OO -=*) ANN (*=-

P.S. I think THAT insult should win best one of the week!

Message: 433
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Ans: James msg 430
Date: 06/16/89  Time: 08:48:40

        I have never eaten Texas Chili either.  Then I assume now that Rod
must be talking about Ann!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*