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Apollo BBS Archive - July 5, 1991

Mail from Roger Mann
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 07:38:36

It amazes me that my children managed to reach adulthood without the
spiritual guidance of Almighty God. I like to think they don't have to carry
around the mental garbage I have to. They probably have a different set of
garbage and will turn into Mormons and have 5 children each.
[A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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 1:Once I shoved god and superstition into the garbage can I found that I could
 2:make decisions faster and better.  It was like getting rid of a pair of 
 3:crutches to be exact, or dropping a few more links of chain from my mind.
 4:
 5:Now I can say, "Fuck God" and keep smiling.  If there ever was a creator 
 6:that would punish ANYTHING it ever made then I would find that little 
 7:asshole and stomp it into the ground....however I wouldn't punish make it 
 8:hurt forever.  It takes a warped mind to come up with this 'forever' 
 9:punishment trip, a real sick mind.
10:
11:I can't wait to bail out of this world and I don't even know what it will be
12:like but I know that there is nothing I want or need here.
13:
14:                                Rod

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Message: 7500
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod/Last
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 00:12:31

    Selective homelessness for the discriminating.

Message: 7501
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Daryl/last
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 16:17:49

Yeah, the city sidewalks the homeless sleep on are urine soaked and full of
trash.  At least in the country I could lay down and if I didn't wake up I'd
know that the local critters would have a good meal.  No mess, no waste.

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Message: 4900
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: $#!+
Subject: last
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 03:48:18

Give adults a break.  Many are trying to undo the damage.

Message: 4901
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod on sucking dick
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 08:17:26

I am still laughing at that one - about the dead dog's dick. You are right
of course, nothing could be worse. hahahahahahhahhahahaha
                     *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 4902
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Bill #4888
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 08:18:46

Hahahahahahahahahahaha. All youse people are funnnnnnnny today!
                     *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 4903
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Gordon on child's
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 08:22:02

You mean a child's word for it like 'Poo Poo' - or "thing" or "Pee Pee"??
                       *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 4904
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: More On Poetry
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 09:33:18

> I agree that cock didn't seem to fit the tone, since a small
> child would probably not use that word.
 
Actually, one signal that sexual abuse is occurring is the use of adult
sexual language at a very early age.
 
> But the reason it IS "off-putting" is because of situation IS
> "off-putting".
 
I disagree.  The word simply seems out of place.  The situation IS
off-putting, but it's supposed to be, isn't it?  "Cock" just seems to
disrupt things, put off the flow of the language somehow.

Message: 4905
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Poems
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 16:20:08

Poems can be changed at any time.  

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Message: 1874
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: my source
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 03:52:44

My source is The Larry King Show.  The guest was Dr. Robert Gallo.

Message: 1875
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: Williams
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 06:12:14

 For 40 years, I had a monogamous relationship with my first wife.
Then,sadly, she died. That terminated that relationship rather definitely.
 As of today, I have not committed adultery during the course of my present
marriage, nor do I intend to. Other than that, my personal life is none of
your damn business!

Message: 1876
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Pauly
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 16:25:06

Well, I was just drawing a logical conclusion from your previous message.  I
personally like sex and lots of women are nice.  I don't wear condoms and I
won't.

Since I am going to hell for all eternity I may as well do what I want, eh?

                                Rod

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Message: 76330
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger Mann
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 00:43:29

     Why? Because I was under the assumption that this was an open forum for
free exchange of divergent opinions. Apparently, I am wrong. Should I get
some Dr. Dentons and goose-step in time behind you. Perhaps I could compose
a new hymn and we could sing it together. Something like:
 
   God loves Mapplethorpe, God loves you,
   God loves Serrano and his "Piss-Christ" too.
   God loves abortion, and a woman's right to choose,
   And he loves to be degraded on the evening news.
   Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
   Halleluallah, and Hallelubuddah,
   God is just a happy kinda guy,
   He's just daisies and banana creme pie,
   Big warm fuzzies and ham on rye,
   He don't care if you live like a sleaze,
   Catch all sorts of veneral disease,
   Shoot up drugs, and drink like a fish,
   God's just a candy store, so do what you wish,
   Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
   Hallelhallah, and Hallelubuddah,
   God is just a happy kinda dude,
   He don't mind if you get a little crude,
   So rape and kill and maim and screw,
   It doesn't matter cuz God luvs U.     - Hymn 666

Message: 76331
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Beau Dog
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 00:45:32

    Ok, so I made a mistake. It's in the SATURDAY paper. So shoot me.
 
    Problem is, she doesn't rate the baked goods. She seems to get lost
somewhere in the atmosphere.

Message: 76332
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger/Bill Burkett
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 00:50:00

     Please stop whining.
 
     >I will go elsewhere where I am allowed to speak my mind freely.
 
     And you were the one chiding me for expressing my opinions on Serrano?
Who said that Bill had the authority to put you into the Phantom Zone? Chill
out senor. Cold climates give the skin the opportunity to thicken.

Message: 76333
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/Closed Minds
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 00:53:46

     Why did you completely sidestep my reply?  Your response just proves my
point, Rod.

Message: 76334
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/July 4
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 00:56:11

        "Blessed is the nation whose God is Yahweh." [Psalm 33:12]
 
        Dittos to you as well, Paul.  I hope that your day was enjoyable and
filled with friends and family as ours was.

Message: 76335
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/IBM APPLE
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 00:56:49

        I'm glad I didn't buy a clone.

Message: 76336
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Editorial
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 01:11:45

     First of all, reality is not what you make it.  If you are in an
automobile accident, deciding that that incident was not reality will not
make it any easier for them to seperate your face from the safety glass
windshield.  It is not your "personal reality" that keeps the planets in
alignment and in orbit. It is not your "personal reality" that makes the sun
rise in the morning, and set in the evening.  It is not your "personal
reality" that causes the sun to shine or the rain to fall.  In short, your
"personal reality" is really nothing more than a personal delusion, or
fantasy.
     There is a Higher Power beyond ourselves.  The One that created this
rock and put it right where it is.  The one that decided that, if you throw
something up into the air, a neat little invention called gravity will keep
it from floating off into space.  The Reality is the One that decided that
you would be a part of this world.  Your "personal reality" cannot change
that.  Sure, you can discard this REAL reality for a fake one, but like the
safety glass, it's not going to keep the REAL reality from hitting you
upside the head every once in a while.  The reality is not that we are
progressing as an animal into higher and higher states of being until we
reach that state of nirvana, or perfection.  The reality is that not only is
human perfection gone, but the quality of the created human specie is
gradually degrading.  The reason that we only use 10% of our brain is not
because we will keep advancing until the time when we will evolve into the
capacity to use the other 90% - the reason is because our first ancestors,
who had a perfect body, a perfect 100% functioning brain and no limitation
to their lifespan, screwed up and blew it for the rest of us.  Your
grandparents were a better specimen of human than you are. And your children
[if you ever have any] will be inferior genetically to you.  In short, the
actions of our oldest grandparents have put us into the state we are now in.
    But the reality is that, despite the seeming chaos and disorder,
everything is under control. Our Ultimate Reality will, in His own time and
in His own manner, deliver us from this downward spiral.  That is, if we
haven't lost sight of that Reality.  If you have, then you've just become
the Ultimate Fool.
    No offense, just calling them as I sees them.

Message: 76338
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff/Message Pointr
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 01:19:07

    Is there any way to patch the software so that, if you happen to run out
of time before you read all the new messages, the system will update your
message pointer to the last message you've read (rather than the last
message in the system at the time of your disconnect)?

Message: 76339
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: Annie/76317
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 05:57:23

 When or how often a car breaks down has little to do with the car you buy.
It has a lot more to do with the time and effort one spends under the hood
on preventive maintenance. I'm sure that this is what Cliff was referring to
in his message.

Message: 76340
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 06:05:39

 You're like a breath of fresh air around here, friend! Loved your poem! Was
that you, or did you find it someplace?
 My fourth was good. I had the opportunity to bring some fun to a nice group
of folks as Freddie Freckles the clown in the afternoon, and then we went
with our next door neighbors to the Glendale CC fireworks display. Got home
late (for us) and fell into bed. All in all, a good day. Glad yours was,
too.

Message: 76341
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Religion
Subject: Daryl's Crud
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 07:45:39

That's the most obscene and offensive thing I've seen on this board. If
that's what you BBB's have been cooking up the movement has gone to hell in
a handbasket.

Message: 76342
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Darly/Phantom Zone
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 07:46:11

And mind your own business.

Message: 76343
Author: $ Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/Daryl
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 07:48:42

I should have known you would adore that piece of BAC self-righteous
doggerel. You and Daryl make great lovers.

Message: 76344
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl on reality
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 08:10:43

Sorry Daryl. Your posts were good, but Rod's hit closer to the truth!
 
I remember when you were a young fellow that posted other than religious
stuff. Is there now no other side to you? You preach  and that is all.
Nothing new, just Bible quotes - as if you do not anymore have a free
thinking mind. What happened to you? What ever it is changed you, I don't
want it! Sorry. So much preaching turnes people off. There are other
Christians here that state many times what they believe - but you do it
constantly! So, hows you married life? The weather? Your job? 
Is Daryl Westfall still there? *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 76345
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Pauley on car
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 08:11:50

Oh! So that's why Cliffy always smells like oil? Heh  *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 76346
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann on Roger & Paul
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 09:31:20

> Personally, I don't feel a trip to the Zone or apologies are
> necessary by either.
 
I didn't either.  That's why I said nothing until I was ASKED to intervene. 

 
I've tried to do a good job as Cub SysOp, working hard to steer clear of
making judgments based on who is talking or what their message is -- until
it violates the [R]ules.
 
In spite of this I've been asked THREE TIMES "IN JEST" to become involved in
discussions.  I don't appreciate that.  It wastes my time and belittles
efforts encouraging open, yet courteous discussion here on Apollo.
 
Roger and Paul Savage are both valuable members of this system.  They both
profess respect for the [R]ules, yet they break them.  One whines about
being offended, yet when action is taken, they cry, "We were only joking." 
When asked to promise not to request action unless it's really desired, they
clam up and ignore the request.
 
No wonder Cliff gets suicidal.  This is idiocy.

Message: 76347
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Sorry, (Sniff)
Subject: Cliff/Uploads
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 09:31:50

> Well, Bill (the uploader) failed to tell me the names of the
> files. ... PLEASE READ INSTRUCTIONS!  Then FOLLOW them!
 
I don't recall seeing those instructions while I was uploading.  Do they
appear on-line?  If not, perhaps a note after the file description is
uploaded would help.

Message: 76348
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: In search of
Subject: Wisdom from Rod
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 09:32:08

> Rod's note:  If you have trouble spelling patriotism, remember
> there is RIOT smack dab in its center.
 
There's something about that I like.

Message: 76349
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Answer!
Subject: Daryl
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 09:58:15

        The pointer is at the last message read Mr Westfall.  However, if
you post a message, it sees that as the last message read.

        To prove my point...  try not posting any messages in some sig or
this PUBlic board.  Stop reading before you come to the end of the posts,
log off, then back on again...  then do a [$]cmd... you will continue where
you had left off at.   Since you post so much, maybe it would be better if
you read all the posts on a first pass of the [$]cmd, then  answer the ones
you wish on a second pass.

        Since you obviously do not read all posts or the files in the [M]ain
menu about this System and the [I]nfo cmd.  Bill Burkett DOES have the power
to place people in the PHAntom Zone as he is a Cub SysOp in training.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- 

Message: 76350
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Answer!
Subject: Bill's Upload Data
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 10:20:31


[C]ancel upload or [E]nter description:Enter

Enter [1] the computer type and model on which this programs runs, [2] the
complete program name including extension, and [3] a brief description.
Aborting the editor will cancel the upload

Enter a line containing only an [*] to stop
 1:


        Bill, this is what you see after an [U]pload...
[1] Type computer...  well, so I know what it runs on... Obvious

[2] This is the one I want you to read from the above instructions.  This
    plainly askes 'The complete program name including extention'.

[3] Every one seems to get this 3rd one, but sometimes this is ALL I get!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- 

Message: 76351
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff/Downloads
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 12:15:06

  Thanks!
   See You Later,
     Dean H.

Message: 76352
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/76344
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 12:22:36

  I concur with Ann. Daryl's poem was great, but I agree more with Rod's
thrust, if not his crushingly monotonous negative outlook. I know he isn't
really that bound up in despair, but he sure comes across that way.
  I wonder what happened to the other side's of both Daryl and Rod.
   See You Later,
     Dean H.
 
p.s.(if you're wondering what happened to the other side of me, you'll have
to remind me what it was, I forgot)

Message: 76353
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: [U]pload instruction
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 15:30:53

Perhaps [1] and [2] didn't get supplied because it was a text file, not a
program.  Mayhaps the instructions should be generalized a wee bit?

Message: 76354
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: miscellaneous
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 15:49:59

I don't know if you noticed, Gordon, but sun tea is not made by having the
water boil.  It is just a slower manner of making tea American-style.
 
Article in the paper the other day reported that the new phone rate for
valley-wide non-toll calling was to be $12.40 (with touch tone service)
compared to about 10.30 now.  I may not have the exact values for these.
 
The index in the [L]ibrary wasn't updated, and I had a heck of a time
finding the file names for Bill's contributions.  His posts had apparently
scrolled.

Message: 76355
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: The files
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 16:07:38

Thanks for the files.  They look good, even though the formatting is pretty
awful (hyphenation on top of hyphenation)

Message: 76356
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/reply
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 16:33:15

I would love to reply to you but first I need something to reply to.  Your
bible quotes are stupid and whoever wrote them in the first place was lame.

The entire book you quote from is a mishmash of ambiguous words.  I read the
entire thing and, yes, one could use it as a crutch which may be a step up
from being alcoholic but a very small step at that.

I realize that life is hard but I also realize that it is short.  No need to
freak out and worry about the unknown.  Even though you say that after death
is a known, I know that you do not really know any more than I so stop
pretending that you do.

Your poetry is excellent but your religion is weak and illogical.

                                Rod

Message: 76357
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bill/RIOT
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 16:43:13

It appears that the population of this nation are in worse shape than when
King George was collecting taxes.  Now we have Pres. George plus a very lame
Supreme Court that seems to be systematically usurping our rights.

Any organization that springs up with the intent of making changes seems to
be infiltrated by the FBI.

It seems that their next step will be to come around and gather up weapons
and after that is done the people are at their mercy more than ever.

Any ideas?

Message: 76358
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dean
Date: 07/05/91  Time: 16:44:34

I don't walk around with a negative outlook.  It is just when I see you I
like to work on solving big problems and not finding a solution I get lost. 

Perhaps I should buy a bible, eh?