Apollo BBS Archive

Apollo BBS Archive - July 20, 1991

Mail from Melissa Dee
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:57:54

Ok, relaid your message to Dog.  Hope to make it out to Mppha. tomorrow
night.  Sounds like a lot of interesting people will be there.
[A]bort, [C]ontinue, [I]nsty-reply or [Z]ap:Insty-reply

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 1:Tell Dog that his message on the main board about being able to sleep late 
 2:and read the paper on Sunday was great.  Both Petrisko and I cracked up when
 3:we read it.  Should win some sort of prize.
 4:
 5:See you Sunday, eh.
 6:


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Message: 7645
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Dean #7640
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:29:10

That is excellent! It's too simple though! Would solve too much for
Washington to handle! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 7646
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Videos
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:52:42

I'll borrow them sometime so I can make a copy and study them at my
leisure.

Message: 7647
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Dean
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:07:34

"Complete Paranoia is Complete Awareness" is great.  I will make a button
and if there are enough aware people that buys one then I'll make a
silk-screen.

Message: 7648
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Daryl/Gen 1,2
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 14:48:39

I take it you are a gap-Creationist  ?


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Message: 1907
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff/Sandy
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:19:33

 For whom is Sandy working the ambulance? I think that's great! She is to be
congratulated! That gal is a constant source of amazement. Raises two kids
to be real gentlemen, attains expert status in gun handling, and is now a
qualified EMT. Some sort of woman!

Message: 1908
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last by Paul
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 16:09:37

        Thank you Paul...  Re: 'Some sort of woman!'   I think soo too!

She is working at P.M.T.   I THINK that stands for Profesional Medical
Transport.

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Message: 76849
Author: Mark Adkins
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hello & G-bye again
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 04:01:12

...I've developed an unhealthy fascination with Leo McKern's neck wattles.

Message: 76849
Author: Mark Adkins
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hello & G-bye again
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 04:01:12

...I've developed an unhealthy fascination with Leo McKern's neck wattles.

Message: 76850
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie/solicitors
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:42:13

Computerized solicitors are easily spotted. They don'T get past the first
sentence before I hang up.

Message: 76851
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie/smoking
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:44:40

 6 months, and you plan to resume the addiction? Oh well, it's your lungs
and your blood stream and your heart, and your life, I guess. Suicide by
ingestion is still legal, unfortunately. (Depending on the poison ingested,
of course.)

Message: 76852
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie on the Bible
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:48:15

 Frankly, I don't have an answer in my head for the Timothy quote, Ann. I
will look it up and see what gives, though. I do know that virtually every
church that I am aware of has women in teaching positions, and many have
priests and/or pastors of the feminine gender, so if the Pauline quote is to
be taken literally, there are a lot of churches that don't, that's for sure.

Message: 76853
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Politics
Subject: $23,200
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:52:13

 THat's the figure of the pay raise, not $25,000. It was passed by the
senate (FOR the senate, of course) the other evening, AFTER the late news
broadcasts, and AFTER most of the press had left the capitol area for the
night.
 Who said this was a government BY and FOR the people? Looks like it's about
time for a tax revolt that would make the Boston tea party look like a lone
ant at a picnic!
$125,000 a year, plus perks, for what they do up there, is absolutely
obscene!

Message: 76854
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: Michael James/76823
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 05:53:51

 Get a business line, Michael. Believe me, you will hear from all the phone
solicitors you will ever want!

Message: 76855
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:01:38

 I have no problem with  your rules, and have tried to abide by them all in
all the time I have been here on Apollo. I have no particular problem with
the handles that some users use regularly (B. Dog for example).
 If I may say so without incurring your wrath, however, I do have a problem
with the way that Roger Mann stated that if he was ever put in the zone, he
would never log back in under the name of Roger Mann, and then you allowed
him to pull the sneaky trick and come back the next day under the Green
Lantern handle. That was nothing less than playing footsie with the rules
for his own advantage. It was, in my opinion, underhanded, sneaky and
unethical.
 I still love ya, though, and I never made any rash statements about leaving
the board if things didn't go my way. I value Apollo far too much to do
that, or even threaten to do that.

Message: 76856
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/Central Ave.
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:04:59

 Central Ave. is indeed a public thoroughfare, accessible to all the
citizenry. Whether or not it is permissable to cruise the street, tying up
traffic and causing damage to business and personal property there, however,
is yet another matter. What it will probably boil down to will be who wields
the most power, the businessmen along Central, or the cruisers.

Message: 76857
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Religion
Subject: Daryl on customs
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 06:11:29

 I would tend to agree with you re: women preachers. Unfortunately, many,
many churches, including yours, have and do ordain women to the ministry.
 When it comes to such matters, I'm willing to let God sort it out when the
time is right, as I'm sure He will.

Message: 76858
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:20:20

Re:  displaying the very same sort of sarcastic garbage that made Mann
famous

Don't you mean "infamous?" 

Message: 76859
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Thad
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:32:03

Re:  Yes, there are violent criminals who should be kept apart from society,
but who do not deserve death. Crimes of assault and battery, (perhaps
including rape)

There are degrees of rape.  I have long thought that any violent rape should
be punished by death.  I think some would think all rape is violent rape.  I
am amazed at the passivity the female population seems to have toward rape. 
If they would bond together they could pass almost any reasonable law they
want.  They make up over 50% of the population. 

What about it ladies?

Message: 76860
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Answer!
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:35:38

Re:  Man is the only animal who covers up, embarrassed or ashamed

I don't think any animal except man is capable of being embarrassed,
ashamed, or a number of other human emotions.

Message: 76861
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Question?
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:37:20

Re:  Hell, I was born nude and so was everyone else.  What's the big deal?

If you feel so strong about it, why don't you run around naked?  Just cause
it's against the law shouldn't bother you.  It doesn't with pot.

Message: 76862
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Question?
Subject: Dog
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:40:49

Re:  embarrassing Bible quote

What "quote" are we talking about?  I'm not aware of anything in the Bible
that's embarrassing to me.

Message: 76863
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:42:47

Re:  "Green Mann" and "Roger Lantern"

Hey Cliff, why don't you clear up the confusion and simply say, "The Green
Lantern is not Roger Mann."

Message: 76864
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: News Today
Subject: Peaches
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:46:44

Re:  I think also that because doctors have modern medicine at their
fingertips

Did you hear on the news that congress is thinking of passing a law that
would put doctors in jail if they continue to treat patients without telling
them they (the doctors) have AIDS?  The only comments against it were by the
doctors.  (I'm sure the homos will object, but they weren't on the news."

Message: 76865
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peaches
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:48:19

Re:  All I know is, no matter what they are selling, whether I wish for
their product with all my heart, I would not buy it on principle alone!

We also made that decision a long time ago!

Message: 76866
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Politics
Subject: Peaches
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 07:50:51

Re:  What do you all think about the $25,000 pay raise the senators voted in
for themselves?

I think it stinks!  How typical of them.  But everyone keeps voting the same
ones back in again.  I say vote the suckers out!

Message: 76867
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Religion
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:05:56

Re:  People who believe in it are living way in the past. Too bad.

Let's see now, anyone who believes something established in the past is
living in the past.  Hmmmmmm.  According to that, anyone who believes in the
law of gravity is living in the past.  There must be another thousand
examples out there.

Message: 76868
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Question?
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:10:38

Re:  I, in all honesty see it as a vile and filthy thing that is corrupting
our youth.

I'm sure you can give us an example.  How about something from the 10
Commands?  Something vile and filthy that is corrupting our youth.  It is
very difficult to take you seriously when you talk about God.  I would think
you were joking if you were not so vilifying.

Message: 76869
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Green on phone
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:44:16

I just butt in and tell them I'm not interested and hang up the phone.
 
I wish I could say that the frequency of phone solicitation has gone down!
                             *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 76870
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Doggy on names
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:46:39

Thanks for telling me what Cliff objected to re: alias. Sorry Cliff! I
thought you you said NO alias at one time. *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 76871
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff on Zone
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 08:51:16

Well ... I can see your dilemma regarding the Zone - but I don't see where
what Pauley or Roger said could compare to the name calling Mike did. Just
my opinion! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 76872
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cat on AIDS
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:16:06

It's about time they started telling their patients they have AIDS! 
It seems there has been some strange underground plot to stiffle the dangers
of AIDS - to make it appear like it's no big deal - after all, you can't get
it by touching another person, etc. etc. But the disease is going 'up' and
we fail to see that. I don't think they know all about the disease yet if
they ever will. If I were going to go to a doctor, I'd certainly want to
know if he had it or not and I would not go to him!!! I also wouldn't go to
him if he were a herion or cocaine addict either. I might have friends that
do those things, but not someone I put my life in their hands! 
 
Many years ago I had a dentist cut himself slightly while he had his hand in
my mouth - maybe on a sharp piece of tooth he was trying to extract - he
must have bled ever so slightly in my mouth. What if he had AIDS? I'm not a
professional on the disease, but I do know that it's fatal! I want no part
of it! *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 76873
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Religion
Subject: Daryl/black pen
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:43:35

Don't forget the version for the "literalists" who ignore most of Leviticus
and other laws of the OT.  "I came not to change the Law, but to fulfill it"

Message: 76874
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Religion
Subject: Felix/embarrassing
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 09:49:22

Do you feel comfortable worshipping a God who would send bears out of the
woods to attack little children?  When all they did was taunt one of His
minions for having a bald pate?

Message: 76875
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Religion
Subject: Daryl Interprets
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:04:13

> The Bible is it's own interpreter.
 
Then how is it that there are so many different interpretations?  Oh, wait! 
I see:  Those that don't interpret the bible as you do are obviously
sinners, damned to hell.  That clears things up considerably.

Message: 76876
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Religion
Subject: Daryl's Sexist!
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:04:34

> Ann doesn't understand the answer because she's not asking the
> right questions.
 
I'm not sure what I said that prompted your reply, but if it was in
reference to the discussion about what the biblical Paul had to say re
women, I'd say Ann's understanding your answers quite well:  Christians who
believe the bible word-for-word are sexist.  I have to agree with Ann that
the writings of Paul has poisoned Christianity in this regard.  And that has
to call the entire idea of biblical infallibility into question.

Message: 76877
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Green-Probation
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:04:57

No, I don't have any specifics on intensive probation; not handy anyway. 
I'd have to dig into my inactive files and I'd just as soon not.
 
I spent an evening riding with a probation officer as he made his rounds,
checking on the probationers he was assigned to.  They also check with
probationers' employers and schools to make sure probationers are doing what
they're supposed to be doing, and can make them submit to random urinalysis
at any time.
 
Although I don't remember any of the statistical details, I can say I was
very impressed.
 
And I'm usually pretty skeptical about such programs.

Message: 76878
Author: Thad Coons
Category: Religion
Subject: Bible Supplement
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:49:09

Have your ever read the Book of Mormon?

Message: 76879
Author: Thad Coons
Category: News Today
Subject: Doctors
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 10:56:11

I don't see why any health professional with an infectious disease
should be allowed to practice as long as he (or she) has the disease.
It is shameful that the issues of civil rights, discrimination, and
privacy are so involved: Why should AIDS be an exception to any other
disease, just because homosexuals often get and transmit it?

Message: 76880
Author: Thad Coons
Category: Religion
Subject: Bears & bald pate
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 11:01:30

Is it possible that the word or phrase translated "children" could mean
youths? Like most accounts of such things, there may have been a lot
of other things said, which were not recorded. If these "children"
were mocking something more significant than a bald head, that might 
give a different interpretation to the incident.
Message: 76881
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Religion
Subject: Daryl
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 12:29:31

I printed out your two posts on women and the Bible just so I
wouldn't make any mistakes in what you said - or I should say - what
the Bible says because you certainly do not have much of a mind of
your own! I cannot and do not believe that all Christians believe
the way you do. I cannot believe that all Christian wives believe it
either. It is things such as this that keep me thinking how much man
has corrupted the Bible - added things that have nothing to do with
God or His word - such as what I belive Paul did! Not only did he
add what society dictated in that day and age - but his own
prejudice.
I cannot conceive of any intelligent person NOT questioning some of
the Bible.  Re: this subject - have you never ask yourself .....
 
....Are the souls of man and woman the same in God's eye - look the
same to Him - mean as much to Him? Does He want the woman sinner to
be saved as badly as a man?
 
.... Did Jesus die horribly on the cross for women as well as men?
 
.... Is the Ten Commandments for women to follow also?
 
Please do not answer these questions with Bible quotes. I want YOUR
answers!!

If you answered 'YES' to any of those questions, I ask you ....
then what does it matter who is head of the household?  Who sinned
first? Who has long hair or short? Who preaches in the Temples,
churches, etc? Who keeps silent in church? Or that woman was born of
man? Or that women are subjected to their mates?  Or if the widow
stays unmarried or not? What has ANY of this to do with salvation?
Christ dying on the cross? Heaven? God? Have you never questioned
Paul? Any of this? Why not? It is so obvious to me that none of it
is from God that sent His son down to die for us all! We make Him
sound 'trite' with all this garbage. He was no 'distinguisher' - why
are you?
 
If Paul was guided by God's hand - then why, in his letter to the
Roman's does he tell them the slave's souls are just as important as
theirs - yet fails to tell them to set the slaves free??? This has
puzzled me for years.
 
So how come with women in 'their given role's are so much more
restrictive than men in their roles? You know - with their silence
in church - their 'vail of hair', their subjugation to men?
 
You really believe that "Eve caused Adam to sin"? (your quote) They
were both weak as far as I can see Daryl, not just Eve - and lets
look at it another way - she was tempted by Mr. Biggie - the Devil
himself.  Who could resist that temptation? But ole Adam was only
tempted by a lowly women, yet he succumbed just as redily didn't he?
BTW - did she twist his arm? Refuse him sex or what to convince him?
I will admit she took the first bite, but what does that matter? One
sinner isn't any better than another are they?
 
So you believe that women don't belong on the pulpit because it is
the will of God er? Are you sure it isn't the 'will of Paul or Peter
or other writers of the Bible'?  Where else in the Bible does it
state that women can't preach?  Did Jesus say it - ever? If so,
please quote it!  Where did God say it -and I certainly don't mean
through Paul either!?!
 
Again I quote Paul .... "I permit no women to teach or to have
authority over men; she is to keep silent"! Also ... "Yet women will
be saved through bearing children if she continues in faith and love
and holiness with modesty." So this is saying that Jesus dying on
the cross isn't enough for women - they must bear children etc????
 
I admit that I never will understand this 'head of the household'
stuff. I chuckled when I read that your wife makes more money than
you do and you still have the nerve to say you are head of that
household!!
 
My stomach lurched when I read your .... "The man/father of the
house is to be the leader of the house both in regular matters and
especially in spiritual matters. A father is to be a role-model in
this respect - a human representation of our Heavenly Father."
I ask again - is the woman's soul so much lessor than a man's that
she can't be a role model also in her own home, to the children she
bore? Is her soul not representing the Heavenly Father? She can
spend her life in her home - making it a beautiful haven - raising
her children, giving a lot of love and she isn't even the head of
that household? Even a co-head?? "She should look to the man for
regular matters and spiritual matters"? I know what the latter is,
but what is regular matters - balancing the check book - grocery
shopping -what is best on rearranging the furniture - should she use
plastic or cloth diapers - checking with him before she buys that
blouse or what?? What if she has a college education? Should she
still check with the head first on these regular matters?

I cannot imagine a woman doctor, dentist, lawyer, racecar driver,
backhoe operator, entrepreneur coming home to the 'head of the
household letting him guide her on 'regular matters and spiritual
matters'!!! A home should be shared equally with all that create it!
Idealy, both should be the ruling members - but sometimes the man is
the guiding person, the stronger one,  but also sometimes the woman
is and she should have that right to be who she is  and not be
subjected to what some Dude wrote in the Bible as God's word over
2,000 years ago!  Again, I am always amazed that you do not question
this!
 
Why are you against women preachers? If their words are inspiring
and they bring souls to God, why should they be banned? Isn't that
the purpose of preaching? Do you think women do not comprehend the
words of God as well as men do? Could not preach as powerfully?
Please explain this in detail without Bible Quotes - your words!
I am quoting it and asking why you belive in everything it says - so
in answering in quotes, doesn't tell me a thing! See?

Re: your .... "I do not believe the Equal Rights Movement is seeking
equality for women I believe they are seeking SUPREMACY"!
 
I do not believe that in the least, but lets for conversation sake
assume they are! Maybe it's about time someone took away man's
power. He has totally bungled it up and continues to do so. Could
women do any worse? I hardly think so!
 
However, I am not for any sex ruling exclusively. We are all just
human's - no matter the color or sex or sexual preference. We all
want the same thing - peace of mind - to live without war or threat
of war - to worship as we wish - to not starve and have a dry place
to sleep - to know our children are safe - to dress as we wish - to
love whom we wish. The list is long and both sexes share it! I feel
that if I wish to preach in the church of my choice and I am
qualified, then I should not be banned from it or else I am
discriminated against! When someone like Paul says "I permit no
woman .... etc" and you or anyone else believes it, then I am in
essence, discriminated against! I know you don't believe that, but
it is perfectly clear to me..

Message: 76887
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Religion
Subject: Daryl really last
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 12:34:00

Last ....
 
In finishing this up - I have one more question for you Daryl -
again, no Bible quotes please ...
... if you take away my private parts that differ from a man's,
isn't what is left the same as a man - a soul? If you take away a
man's private parts that differ from a woman's, isn't what is left
the same - a soul?
 
For what it's worth, I have had 56 years experience on this earth
and can truthfully say I have not found that men are superior in any
way or that women are either. Nor have I seen one having anymore
stamina, intelligence, common sense, patience, religion, or what-
have-you than the other. Individuals, yes, not as a whole! Not
enough to make it a blanket rule that woman can't preach or can't be
head of the household! Its time to forget that junk and start to see
that we have much in common - not focus on the minute differences.
It seems to me that that is what God would want instead of a
egotistical male coming home to 'his' house and ruling over regular
matters and spiritual matters!!' I laugh at Paul, but he won you
know. He allowed the males to keep their egos intact and still go to
Heaven. Poor Jesus missed out though. He had to let go of all ego on
the Cross! Anyway, thank you for listening Daryl. I hope you see the
light of course . -=* ANN *=-

Message: 76888
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl on father
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 12:43:44

The only thing that has distorted the father's role is the father himself! 
 
If the family is destroyed - then society in general did this, not the
women. I don't know whether you noticed or not, but times have changed - not
only in your brief lifetime, but certainly in the last 2,000 years! If one
is to take the Bible litterly, then a women should still be wearing a vail
and or long hair and stay home and raise the kiddies - not out working,
trying to keep a home above their heads! 
 
I don't know why I bothered to send these long posts when Bill said it so
well in one post. 
 
                        *>>> ANN O. <<<*

Message: 76889
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cat/vile & filthy
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:18:44

"Thou shall not kill" is a good example.  What this means to Christians is
this:  It's okay to kill sometimes.

Don't pray in the square in front of others but go into your closet.  What
this means is:  Hell, I am not praying, I'm just "witnessing".

In other words, Christians are the biggest hypocrites on this planet, vile
and filthy.  A Christian can make ANYTHING say ANYTHING but they are only
fooling themselves because they are obvious to anyone who can actually
think.  

My concern is for the children who are growing up with this brainwashing. 
My job is to put an end to this evil bigotry.    -Rod

Message: 76890
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Thad/bald pate
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:28:32

No, actually what that passage about the 40 children being put to death
by a bear should read.  "They weren't children but grown vile men who were
totally evil."  See, doesn't that make Mr. God look better already?

By the way, you can use my interpretation for all future discussions.  It's
so easy.

And, "Thou shall not kill" means:  It's okay to kill as long as your
government says it is okay or if the person is a different skin color and/or
speaks a different language.  (I could do this all day using the Christian
method.

"Don't pray outloud like the hypocrites do but go into the closet" simply
means:  Just call it witnessing and it's okay.

In the first book of Atheists it says:  "Don't fart in public" but since the
word public can be taken so many ways it is okay to fart anywhere, anytime.

See?

Message: 76891
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 13:33:42

Hey, woman, don't you know your proper place?  What is the idea of you
questioning a male of the species?  You are going directly against the
teachings of the bible.  I wouldn't want to be in your shoes come judgement
day.  (They're probably too small and would pinch my feet.)  -Rod

P.S.  Good posts but do you really expect a meaningful answer?  Aren't you
just spinning your wheels?  Keep spinning, you may crack the armor on some
of the less gullible of the lot.

Message: 76892
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dog
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 15:36:00

Re:  Do you feel comfortable worshipping a God who would send bears out of
the woods to attack little children?

As I recall they were young men, not little children.  They deserved what
they got.  I don't have a problem with it.

Message: 76893
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Religion
Subject: last/deserve
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 16:26:13

Well, if they were young men then it is certainally okay. After all, mocking
someone's bald head is a serious offense.  What god wouldn't send a bear in
for the killing after something like that?  Glory be.

Message: 76894
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Religion
Subject: CHRISTIANITY
Date: 07/20/91  Time: 16:26:53

Religion in general is a carry-over from the past.  It generally afflicts
the weak, the lame, the easily lead, the sheep of the world, if you will. 

Christianity in general is proof positive that brainwashing does work.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is a disease but I would go as far
as saying that it is vile and filth.  Even the basic tenets of that belief
has been and is being corrupted as I type.

Everything is subject to interpretation and I, along with all freethinkers
everywhere, see that the bible can and does say absolutely anything that
a so-called believer wants it to say, bar nothing.

There is nothing that is immoral to a Christian, anytime or anywhere.  And
if a Christian does something that others of that ilk feel is wrong then
that too is okay because a Christian does not have to be perfect, just
forgiven.

                                    Rod