Apollo BBS Archive - July 14, 1991


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Message: 7571
Author: $ Wild Barbarian
Category: Answer!
Subject: Pot/deaths
Date: 07/13/91  Time: 20:49:50

This is to anyone interested in another opinion:  What about the deaths due
to someone being allergic to the crap? And how would that be reported? Sorry
but any and all drugs, whether legal and prescribed or illegal and abused
can be deadly if not taken or used properly.  How many people in this
country are legally addictted to morphine ( a derivatitive of the poppy
plant like heroin)?  And other junk?  Yet how are these deaths reported when
the person dies.....  Just wondering...

Message: 7572
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 12:33:50

I thought it was "Metropophobobia" in Peter's message.
 
I went there and bought this neat magazine, but I didn't see any
refrigerator magnets that interested me.  If I had seen that button I would
have bought it.

Message: 7573
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Michael James
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 13:12:43

You are correct about the spelling.  The buttons are in the showcase and I
dropped off a load of them yesterday at noon.  Perhaps they haven't put them
on display yet.

I bought a copy of Mondo 2000 and it is great.  I also purchased a CD put
out by a group from New Mexico near Santa Fe.  It's different.
                                Rod

Message: 7574
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: allergic/Wild
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 13:13:40

There has never been a documented death from someone being allergic to
marijuana.  

Message: 7575
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Debate/dispute
Subject: Last/Rod
Date: 07/14/91 Time: 13:44:43

Oh yea, Right Dr Williams..  You really are fried on the stuff.

Message: 7576
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 15:51:42

Re:Some excellent posts on drugs here (except for the lunacy group).

What Rod is saying is, if you agree with Rod, your posts are most excellent.
However, if you disagree, you're a lunatic.

Message: 7577
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 15:55:45

Re:  Just because your minister told you or you read it in a Christian based
book does not make it so.  I know from first hand experience and I have a
clear mind.

What I know about pot I never heard from a minister nor read it in a book.
I got it the same way you did.  And I think I have a clear mind.

Message: 7578
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Question?
Subject: last
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 23:28:38

So, are you a paranoid?

Message: 7579
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 23:29:54

I'd rather have double-fried brains than your brains, any day..

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Message: 4915
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Apro
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 12:39:35

I don't think it's the frequency as much as the phase.  If you're born an
odd number of times, you're 180 degrees out of phase and you're going to
hell.  If you're born an even number of times, you're "in phase" and you'll
go to heaven.  If you've only been born once, ye must be born again, but
don't overdo it and get born again and again.

Message: 4916
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Born again.
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 13:15:55

Some Christians are born again and again and again and again.  Depends on
how often they sin.  I think those who die on their thirteenth birth go to
hell.

Message: 4917
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 14:14:34

Not if they were extracted by Caesarean section.

Message: 4918
Author: $ Apro Poet
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Frequently Born
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 14:54:53

The more often you're born, the more often you get to fall
from grace.  It's sort of like hangovers.  People just keep
on drinking.  Is this fun or what?!  Uh-oh.  If it's fun it
must be evil.  Oh well, what's another trip through the
birth canal?

BTW Jimmy Swagart's back in the Godcasting business ... 
after being reborn, of course.

Message: 4919
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 23:31:56

Yes, he doesn't have to be perfect, just forgiven.  And remember kiddies,
God forgives you 7 X 77.  Isn't that marvelous?  Why, I'd call it a bloody
miracle even if God's blow jobs are only second rate.



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Message: 76624
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann on losing member
Date: 07/13/91  Time: 21:23:39

        Ann, I can't let anyone hold that over my head... I do NOT want to
lose Roger, but if he goes, he goes....  To break the ules and then tell
me you will quit if I do anything... I just can't let slide by.

        Besides, after Roger sees how Annie grovels, he will have a good
laugh!  Most people enjoy the FIRST visit!

        Yes, Roger has visited the Zone...  3 times today !

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- stoking the fire, so it's HOT!

Message: 76625
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 1986
Date: 07/13/91  Time: 23:00:22

Sentenced prisoners admitted to State and Federal institutions:

U.S. Total 183,769   / White 92,274 / Black 73,934 / Other Races 1,924
and, Race not reported 15,637

California 23,197 
Texas      23,152
Florida    18,941
New York   13,159  
                        (stay outa them states)

        In 1926 (as far back as I can trace) the total was 43,328

Source: U.S. Department of Justice "Race of Prisoners Admitted to State and
Federal Institutions, 1926-86"  by Patrick A. Langan, Ph.D. May 1991

Message: 76626
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 05:38:38

 Pretty Party Place now stocks a line of T-shirts with different and unique
scren prints. One of them has a large "Positively over 50" on the front, and
is covered front and back with some rather hilarious comments.
 Perhaps it's time to add to your wardrobe? (I already have one, by the
way.)

Message: 76627
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Losing Mann?
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 05:39:25

Could we be that lucky?

Message: 76628
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Religion
Subject: Ann/BAC
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 05:52:50

 Strange that you should cite the Baptist church as an example for your
question, since they are one denomination that definitely teaches and
promotes the "born again" principle.
 You ask whether knowing God is not the reason why people go to church. The
response to that, for a good number of people, is, sadly, no. True, many
churches do still teach and preach the necessary deep personal relationship
that is a prerequisite for true Christianity. THere are also those,(and I
will not point a finger at any) that do not, preferring to teach a
self-perpetuating doctrine that promotes adherence to the man-made
principles of the governing body of that particular church. There are also
those who can go to church all their lives, every time the doors are open,
and still fail to get the true message of God's love and power and grace.
Why? Well, who knows? Many go to church to make a statement about
themselves. "Look at me! I'm a goody, goody two shoes! I'm in church again!"
THeir lives are so self-centered that there's no room for another, even if
that other is Jesus Christ. One of the most fulfilling aspects of inviting
Christ into your heart is the emptying of self. THe trading of all that is
evil and worldly for that which is pure and holy. THis is not, as some might
say, a self righteous statement, but rather a statement of wonder and
gratitude at how unworthy one is, and how we are so loved, even as we are,
by our creator. It is an acknowledgement of His worthiness, and His
sacrifice, and His love. When one can accept that premise as a personal,
individual truth that applies to every aspect of his or her life, then it
matters not what church you attend; you are born again of the Spirit of God.

Message: 76629
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Prisons/justice
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 06:06:04

 The thing that strikes me concerning our "criminal justice" system is the
gross injustice of it all.
 It seems that the only answer we have for every violation of the law
(unless the violator is a lawyer or a politician, of course), is to stick
the offender in prison for a time. Regardless of the nature of the crime.
 Now, in my opinion, there is absolutely no reason for alternative
sentencing for violent criminals, those who damage life, body or property.
They belong in prison, where they can do no further harm.
 However, where is the justice for anyone in sticking, say, an embezzler
behind bars for 10 or 20 years? Is this justice for the victim of the
embezzlement? No! Justice in such a case would be a closely supervised work
program, with perhaps 50-60% of income going into a fund to pay back every
cent that was embezzled, with interest. That wold also be more just in the
eyes of the public, who would not then be saddled with the burden of
housing, feeding and caring for the criminal for the duration of his
sentence.
 Another lack of justice, in my opinion, is the number of appeals and
reprieves a criminal gets against the carrying out of a death sentence. We
sentence a heinious murderer to death, and then spend years and loads of
public monies educating him in the ways of the law,and allowing him appeal
after appeal, and motion after motion, and the sentence never gets executed.
This, too, not only exacerbates the overcrowding of the prison population,
but costs the public hundreds of thousands of dollars needlessly. Prison
reform? How about a major reform of the entire "justice" system?

Message: 76630
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: More (on) Prisons
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 09:06:19

> If this continues, it might become more cost-effective to
> instead lock up the wealth that people attempt to acquire
> through criminal activities.  Or is that the "solution" that
> launched this disaster in the first place?
        That's the purpose of the so-called RICO laws that seize defendants'
assets.  All in all a good thing, except that the law enforcement gods are
dead set against letting elected officials have any say in how seized RICO
funds are spent.  Hmmmm...
 
> Why is the public not told of these things until they're so
> bad?
        This has been an ongoing news story for years.  Why haven't you been
listening?  Perhaps because it wasn't so bad?
 
>Does Metrocenter still have those cruising barricades? 
        Yes.  Idiotic.  I wonder who pays for the enforcement action those
necessitate:  the City or the MetroCenter merchants?

> The editorial (again) made no mention of the relation between
> U.S. per capita prison population and that of other countrys.
        There must be a reason for the omission.  Maybe the situation isn't
as bad when viewed on a per capita basis and, therefore, no dire action
would be required.
        Whenever an issue suddenly becomes a crisis, it causes me to wonder
what the publisher has to gain from my concern.  Usually it's merely
assurance of my continued attention.  And that assures my continued
subscription to the newspaper.

Message: 76632
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod's Brown Nose
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 09:07:14

> Yeah, well, I just put a double hex on you and now you can look
> forward to spending your eternity in hell, twice.
 
You sure know how to brown-nose, Rod.

Message: 76633
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: More Brown Nosing
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 09:07:33

> Cubby Sysop is the best, most logical SYSOP of any board that I
> have ever been on.  And he can really smack home a point.  You
> are appreciated, probably more than you know.
 
You sure know how to brown-nose, Rod. 

Message: 76634
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: $tatus users only
Subject: Mike/Cubbie's Ideals
Date: 07/14/91  Time: 09:08:42

> Does the Cub Sysop approve or disapprove of the demeaning
> tirade Roger Mann directed at me personally for the 8 posts on
> Dinosaurs?
 
        Of course not.
        As you know, Mike, in addition to sometimes trying to settle a
dispute over the ules in public, I often use Apollo's 

ost Office in an effort to persuade members to get along. This was exactly the approach I was taking with Roger when Cliff decided (justifiably as SysOp) to send him to the Zone. There's been a good deal of baiting going on from both sides of recent discussions on the board. I'd like to see all of it end. But one can only hope for so much from mere mortals. > Yet I still find there are two sets of rules on this board. I'm sorry you still feel that way. I don't think it's the case. > Please clean up his act. Can't do that. I can only try to persuade him to clean up his own act. Message: 76635 Author: $ Mike Carter Category: Answer! Subject: Cliff Date: 07/14/91 Time: 09:19:53 The complaint about the "two sets of rules" was generated not om the tenets and rules of APOLLO BBS management, but some of its users. These users are the same ones who cry foul, whine, snivel and wretch, pull hair and bite their fingers because I or anyone else dare doubt their logic or question their motives or even return their sarcasm in posts. Yet, when I or a few select others, namely Christians, post something it's an all-out free for all. They forget the rules. The same ones they were wretching and moaning about a few days ago. So I simply find it amazing that there are still inconsistencies. In life, I am accustomed to inconsistencies, mainly from people, but they also have recognized some of them and carry on. Folks like Roger are truly amazing to me. After all this time and the previous brohuhaha, he still sees it fit to use the rules against someone anytime they jingle his cage, but then expects the rules to evaporate when he crosses the line. Ann Oudin is another fine example. Everytime she does something worth going to the zone, or a close boosom buddy, she lets loose with threats to leave forever. -I've heared that one at least 5 times in the last year. That's all. No complaints on YOU Cliff. Just the one group. Message: 76636 Author: $ Mike Carter Category: Answer! Subject: Apro/Prisons Date: 07/14/91 Time: 09:50:00 To clarify my closing paragraph in msg #76548; Matching figures with the apparent drop in educational excellence, the decline of literacy (maybe it's not a decline. It's always been there.) and we can safely assume more teenagers are opting to leave school early. The increase in popularity of gangs has given rise to an increase in police services. Calls made to the police have skyrocketed over the last decade. It's not the government actively pursuing avenues to find and incarcerate people. You'll find that the people themselves, those incarcerated are soley responsible for being there. Of course, they're all innocent. (sarcastic mimic of a line I've heared too much of.) The Government has mandatory prison sentencing policies as set forth by an angry public...someone has already pointed that out. My last line wasn't to infer anything, rather a simple statement, in that I don't believe for a minute that the Government has any sinister plans and to assist in those plans, it's taking people prisoner arbitrarily. Not even for a minute. No, I think, like many have said in the past, there's a price to be paid for the freedoms we have here in the U.S. Part of that price is to mingle with those who donot deserve that freedom. What happens between the time the individual(s) are put away and the time they are caught in the act that justifies it, is the problem of the Government; it's inherent slowness and oft mishappen justice system. Remember words of a famous poet; The truly criminal are never caught. Message: 76637 Author: $ Apollo SysOp Category: Chit Chat Subject: Mike/2 sets of rules Date: 07/14/91 Time: 10:21:50 Yea, I know what you mean, but as a Christian, you had better get use to it. The Christian bashing atheists seem to think ules apply to others and not themselves. It's funny what garbage they call 'free thinking'...yet when we FREELY choose to follow Christ as Christians, they bash us for not following their ideas with insults. To be a Christian is not always easy, as any one can be an atheist with little or no effort. *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif- Message: 76638 Author: $ Beauregard Dog Category: Chit Chat Subject: creation "science" Date: 07/14/91 Time: 11:13:05 So, Mike, when are you going to respond to *my* message about your 1-in-8? You seem to enjoy responding to the abusive posts. Is this so that you don't have to respond to the substantive posts? Message: 76639 Author: $ Ann Oudin Category: Chit Chat Subject: Pauley #76628 Date: 07/14/91 Time: 11:35:17 Very good post Pauley. Informative. I see what you mean about people going to chruch. (reasons) *>>> ANN O. <<<* Message: 76640 Author: $ Ann Oudin Category: Chit Chat Subject: Mike on Zone Date: 07/14/91 Time: 11:43:35 I don't like to see anyone go to the Zone and that includes you. BTW - show me the 5 TIMES I threated to leave forever Mike!! I left once because of you - your nastiness. We all get nasty at one time or another, but you deserve a prize! Looks to me like you are the one whining to the sysop for justice. I can take your nastiness, but in the Cos. sig. where it belongs, not the BB. *>>> ANN O. <<<* Message: 76641 Author: $ Ann Oudin Category: Chit Chat Subject: Cliff Date: 07/14/91 Time: 11:46:41 Re: your .... To be a Christian is not always easy, as any one can be an athiest with little or no effort." You gotta be kidding Cliff!!! Think about that one for awhile and I think you will change your mind. Remember, not ALL atheists were always that way. One time they believed as you do. *>>> ANN O. <<<* Message: 76642 Author: $ Ann Oudin Category: Religion Subject: Cat Date: 07/14/91 Time: 11:47:47 Dear Cat. Here are some of the reasons I do not like Paul - why I think he disliked women and preached things that were HIS opinion only, because it does not make sense that God commanded it!! All of his writings are laced with subjugation of women to men. 1 CORINTHIANS - CHAP. 7 VERSE 39 "A wife is bound to her husband as long as he lives. If the husband dies, she is free to be married to whom she wishes, only in the Lord. (How nice of him!) But in my judgement, she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I have the Spirit of God!" Comment .... women never had a chance with the above statement! Paul said it, he had the spirit of God, so therefore, God said it!! Who could argue with God? Who is Paul to say a woman is happy or not - with what man -what husband? I find that even today some Christian men think this same way about women - knows what is best for them! MOST of them still believe in the 'old head of the household' archaic stuff. I've had them justify that until their blue in the face, but it still doesn't mean it's right or justified! They all, as far as I'm concerned, got this from Paul, who never did meet Jesus and was supposedly converted on the road to Damascus by God. A lot of people have said that - including Manson, The Rev. Moon, and Oral Roberts. 1 CORINTHIANS CHAP. 11, VERSE 2 "But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband and the head of Christ is God. Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered, dishonors his head, but any woman whew prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head - it is the same as if her head were shaved. For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair, but if it is disgraceful for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her wear a veil, for man should not cover his head since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman but woman for man. That is why a woman ought to have a veil on her head, because of the angels. (HUH?) Verse 13 ..."Judge for yourselves; is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not nature itself teach you that for a man to wear long hair is degrading to him, ( HUH ? NATURE?) but if a woman has long hair, it is her pride? For her hair is given to her for a covering. If any one is disposed to be contentious, we recognize no other practice, nor do the churches of God!" Comment... NONE of this sounds like anything handed down from God for people to live by. Has NOTHING to do with Jesus or has any validity. Yet look how many centuries it has prevailed! TIMOTHY CHAP. 2 VERSE 8 " .... also that women should adorn themselves modestly and sensibly in seemly apparel, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly attire, but by good deeds, as befits women who profess religion. Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I permit NO woman to teach or to have authority over men, she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet, women will be saved through bearing children. If she continues in faith and love and holiness, with modesty." Comment... here again is a lot of words that don't apply and I would certainly say was NOT GOD sent - rules of Heaven!! This all of course implies that Eve committed the first sin and is responsible for everything bad that has happened to mankind including no doubt, to Jesus also. Where did Jesus EVER imply that woman was beneath man in any way? That they shouldn't have any authority over men - ever? Or that they can't teach or preach?? In my opinion, this is Paul's opinion only! It is so very obvious I cannot understand why Bible believers don't see it! Sorry this is all messed up. When I uploaded, it came out this way from the word processor. Must have set margins wrong. *>>> ANN O. <<<* Message: 76645 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Chit Chat Subject: Cliff/easy to be Date: 07/14/91 Time: 13:22:52 Yeah, it's easy to be an atheist. But it requires sorting out and eliminating a certain amount of brainwashing that we all grow up with. Message: 76646 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Religion Subject: Bibical Paul Date: 07/14/91 Time: 13:24:51 Paul was a known homosexual who liked his men with short hair. He also hated women. Message: 76647 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Chit Chat Subject: Cliff Date: 07/14/91 Time: 13:27:58 I posted the entire meaning of Police State, verbatim from my Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language, 1989 edition. I've always suspected that Webster was a commie. I purchased the book at Price Club. As for me photocopying the page and sending it to you.....well, no, I don't think I will but I would be willing to wager any sum that you specify as to whether it says what I posted. How about it? Message: 76648 Author: $ Apollo SysOp Category: Question? Subject: Last Date: 07/14/91 Time: 13:31:58 What was that garble about... "specify as to whether it says what I posted"...????? Well cheap skate, I am willing to send you a photo copy of what all 3 of my Websters say... I somehow do not believe you Rod... Pot has you seeing words that are not there. Message: 76649 Author: $ Apollo SysOp Category: Religion Subject: Ann/Rod Date: 07/14/91 Time: 13:41:47 For one, I was brought up by a mom and dad that are not Christians. I was once as one might say "a non-believer"... till I started to THINK on my own. Ann, it is easier to believe in NOTHING then to believe in something. That is a hard, cold, FACT. (there I go, the F... word again) *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif- Message: 76650 Author: $ Michael James Category: Chit Chat Subject: Roger Date: 07/14/91 Time: 14:10:47 I tentatively concluded that one of your statements was incorrect, either you aren't really a Christian or you don't actually have a total lack of religious belief, but I thought I'd give you a chance to defend your position. Since your brand of Christian religious beliefs (or nonbeliefs, or whatever) are pretty obscure, it seems silly for you to be so indignant that other people don't subscribe to them when you refuse to even explain what they are. Message: 76651 Author: $ Felix Cat Category: Chit Chat Subject: Peaches Date: 07/14/91 Time: 15:48:18 Thanks for the answer about Paul. I think you credit much to Paul that he never intended. I think you take too seriously things like what Rod says. ie. "Paul was a known homosexual who liked his men with short hair. He also hated women." We each believe what we want to believe. Bonnie will tell you that she considers me head of the house, and she is submissive. Neither of us considers this a problem area. We've been married 15 years, and we get along just fine. Those who disagree can disagree. Each is free to do as they wish. Rod can curse God; Paul can preach; Roger can call all Christians names. Dialogue sure is interesting. Message: 76652 Author: $ Apro Poet Category: Politics Subject: Some Are Free Date: 07/14/91 Time: 16:22:51 Robber Baron Update: American Continental Corp. (of Keating fame) is suing its own bondholders. Prisons: Thanks to all for the comments. They were all interesting. Bill #76630: I have followed the domestic U.S. discussions on prison overcrowding. What bothers me the most is that I haven't seen or heard "the U.S. has the highest per capita prison population in the world" on any domestic medium. I've heard it at least four times in recent months from various foreign broadcasters, most recently Radio Netherlands. I would appreciate being informed if anyone has heard or hears this item from a domestic source. I would really like to know whether we will remain as free as we are or will gradually become merely *convinced* that we are free. Message: 76653 Author: $ Apro Poet Category: Politics Subject: Prohiboholics Anon. Date: 07/14/91 Time: 16:33:21 History has encouraged such attitudes. Crude opium, alone or dissolved in some liquid such as alcohol, was brought by European explorers and settlers to North America. Colonists regarded opium as a familiar resource for pain relief. Benjamin Franklin regularly took laudanum--opium in alcohol extract--to alleviate the pain of kidney stones during the last few years of his life. The poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge, while a student at Cambridge in 1791, began using laudanum for pain and developed a lifelong addiction to the drug. Opium use in those early decades constituted an "experiment in nature" that has been largely forgotten, even repressed, as a result of the extremely negative reaction that followed. Americans had recognized, however, the potential danger of continually using opium long before the availability of morphine and the hypodermic's popularity. The American Dispensatory of 1818 noted that the habitual use of opium could lead to "tremors, paralysis, stupidity and general emaciation." Balancing this danger, the text proclaimed the extraordinary value of opium in a multitude of ailments ranging from cholera to asthma. (Considering the treatments then in vogue--blistering, vomiting and bleeding--we can understand why opium was as cherished by patients as by their physicians.) Opium's rise and fall can be tracked through U.S. import-consumption statistics compiled while importation of the drug and its derivative, morphine, was unrestricted and carried moderate tariffs. The per capita consumption of crude opium rose gradually during the 1880s, reaching a peak in the last decade of the century. It then declined, but after 1915 the data no longer reflect trends in drug use, because that year new federal laws severely restricted legal imports. In contrast, per capita consumption of smoking opium rose until a 1909 act outlawed its importation. Americans had quickly associated smoking opium with Chinese immigrants who arrived after the Civil War to work on railroad construction. This association was one of the earliest examples of a powerful theme in the American perception of drugs: linkage between a drug and a feared or rejected group within society. Cocaine would be similarly linked with blacks and marijuana with Mexicans in the first third of the 20th century. The association of a drug with a racial group or a political cause, however, is not unique to America. In the 19th century, for instance, the Chinese came to regard opium as a tool and symbol of Western domination. That perception helped to fuel a vigorous antiopium campaign in China early in the 20th century. During the 1800s, increasing numbers of people fell under the influence of opiates--substances that demanded regular consumption or the penalty of withdrawal, a painful but rarely life-threatening experience. Whatever the cause-- overprescribing by physicians, over-the-counter medicines, self-indulgence or "weak will"--opium addiction brought shame. As consumption increased, so did the frequency of addiction. At first, neither physicians nor their patients thought that the introduction of the hypodermic syringe or pure morphine contributed to the danger of addiction. On the contrary, because pain could be controlled with less morphine when injected, the presumption was made that the procedure was less likely to foster addiction. (continued) Message: 76656 Author: Thad Coons Category: Chit Chat Subject: Volcano Watching Date: 07/14/91 Time: 16:59:22 Probably good ol' mundane dendrochronology. Message: 76657 Author: Thad Coons Category: Chit Chat Subject: Hello Date: 07/14/91 Time: 17:19:54 Hello, Apollo People! It's been a long time since I did much BBS'ing (like about three years) and it was a pleasure to find Apollo still running. There are still some people I recognize (Ann Oudin and Apro Poet, for instance-- and maybe others. See you around! Message: 76658 Author: $ Chris Neal Category: Answer! Subject: Mike C. Date: 07/14/91 Time: 21:04:34 Quit complaining. I think we should give Mike the 'Conistant Complainer Award' for Apollo for the calender year 1991. He is very good at consistantly complaining about people picking on him. Mike, the best thing to do is consider the source, why argue with them, you'll never change thier thought process. -Chris Message: 76659 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Chit Chat Subject: Cliff Date: 07/14/91 Time: 23:34:35 > Pot has you seeing words that are not there. Better than alcohol, any day. By the way, did I tell you that there has never been a documented death from pot? Alcohol rips those little brain cells to shreds. Scientists can't determine damage done from pot. Why, heck, aspirin is more damaging than pot. Oink. Message: 76660 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Chit Chat Subject: Felix/Paul/gay Date: 07/14/91 Time: 23:36:23 Hey, I got my information from Webster's Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language. Message: 76661 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Chit Chat Subject: Felix/God Date: 07/14/91 Time: 23:41:14 God made me a God curser. Besides, I'm exercizing my free will. Gee, what do you think the consequences are? Any clues? I hope it ain't that hell eternal thing that I hear so much about. I don't think I would like the heat for that long. Maybe I'd better suck up to Him just in case He's real, huh? Better to be safe than sorry, I suppose. But what if He is a dork? Then what?

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