Apollo BBS Archive - January 1990

Apollo BBS Archive - January 8 - 14, 1990

Message: 62342
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: News Today
Subject: Porn Update
Date: 01/07/90  Time: 19:35:17

'CHESTER MOLESTER' CREATOR GUILTY OF ABUSING TEEN GIRL
 
  (AP) VENTURA, Calif - The cartoonist who created 'Hustler' magazine's
"Chester The Molester" feature has been convicted of molesting a teenage
girl.
  Dwaine Tinsley, 44, was found guilty of five child-molestation accounts by
a Superior Court jury on Friday. Jurors agreed Tinsley had substantial
sexual contact with the girl, but acquitted him of six charges and
deadlocked on five.
  The cartoon created by Tinsley depicts a lecherous character and his
attraction to young girls. He refused to talk with reporters after the
verdict.
  Defense lawyer George C. Eskin promised to appeal the guilty verdicts,
arguing as he did during the trial that the girl accused Tinsley in
retalliation for his efforts to halt her drug use.
  Tinsley could face a maximum prison term of sixteen years, and a $50,000
fine when he is sentenced March 1, [according to] prosecutor Matthew J.
Hardy.
  Evidence presented at the trial said Tinsley told co-workers "You can't
write this stuff all the time if you don't experience it."
  But Tinsley's cartoon eliminated it's focus on pedophilia several years
ago, Hardy said.

Message: 62343
Author: Thornbob Rico   Note:  This is me.
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Xmas Trees/uses
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 00:26:42

Tonight I attended the gala opening of the Elvis Art Celebration at
Gallery X, located in beautiful downtown Phoenix.

Outside, in the cold and damp the transients were cutting up and burning
Xmas trees.  It was their only source of heat.    

Message: 62344
Author: Tanisha Valese
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: The Best
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 02:47:19

My top ten best movies ever.  These are movies I enjoy and would recommend
to others.  They are not in any particular order.
Annie Hall
sex, lies, and videotape
She's gotta have it
Clockwork Orange (not for the squeemish)
All that Jazz
Heavy Metal
Soylent Green
Fantasia
Aria
Baron Muchowson
 
Please excuse any misspellings but I got as close as I could.
Honorable mentions:
Angel Heart
The Sure Thing
Platoon
2001
dangerous liasons
 
Thanks for watchin',
T.V.

Message: 62345
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Sex & Love
Subject: More booklets
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 02:58:19

Yes, I have yet another booklet of poems.  Two actually.  And a couple of
erotic stories as well(I've been busy during this school break).  If anyone
would like information or would like to recieve any of the above, please
leave me e mail.
One booklet is a guide to being a teenager and is 1.00.  The second is
called (tenatively) Break Way and will be 5.00.  The two stories I have done
are The Tanning Booth and is 3.00 and Love Thyself which is a dollar.  
Those people requesting a copy of any erotic story must be ready to send me
proof of adultship (a stupid rule but I can't break that one).
There are no more copies of my first booklet but if anyone wants one made I
still have a master copy.  It sells for 3.00 and is called The Uncomplete 
Collection of Mychele.
 
Best Wishes to you all for the new year,
Melissa D.

Message: 62346
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Purple Rain
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 03:11:09

I heard you put this on your list.
Your a good man, Hawley.

Melissa D.

Message: 62347
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Larry Winn
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 05:52:14

 You have a good thought there, but you don't have to shout. We can all read
lower case just fine. (Hint. Lower case type makes reading a lot easier.
Thanks.)

Message: 62348
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: LAST
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 09:31:14

WHAT?

Message: 62349
Author: Roger Mann
Category: Vote
Subject: Old Tree
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 10:12:55

B.

Message: 62350
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: CHESTER THE MOLESTER
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 11:21:56

     Another sad example of life imitating art.

Message: 62351
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: ANN/ELVIS
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 11:23:49

     Yes, the Elvis show got some good coverage.  If anyone is interested,
Gallery X will host an "open house" on Sunday, Jan. 21 from 1pm to 4pm. 
Come down & see the art, this is a free event open to all.  
 
800 W. Madison.  420-9390.

Message: 62352
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Incumbants
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 11:59:51

  If an elected official could not seek or expect re-election, then couldn't
they just sell out to the highest bidder with no regard for their
constituents' opinion of them? The idea that a single term will transform
each officeholder into a responsible civil servant leaves me unconvinced.
Why look at longevity instead of performance and expect better performance?
Should we drive all doctors out of business after a few years in hopes of
halting unnecessary surgery?
  If congress did not have the power to redistribute our wealth at a whim
they would have nothing to sell and corruption would be pointless. I hate to
use the term 'simplistic' because I think it is often used to disparage good
ideas, but I think that throwing out all incumbants regardless of individual
performance is the kind of wrong-headed notion that rightfully deserves to
be called simplistic.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 62353
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: the X in Xmas
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 12:48:03

Re:What does this mean?

It means what you want it to mean.  If you think you're an atheist, ot means
that the Savior has been X'ed out of the holiday, and if you're a Christian,
you are aware of the Greek letters that make up His name and you will
find that the X stands for Jesus, and you'll want to keep it in.

And yes, I think the Christmas holiday is entirely too secularized now.  

                                                   ****  Gary   ****

Message: 62354
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul Savage
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 15:54:30

     I agree that if it can be proven that a person is guilty, by all means
he should be convicted.  I also agree that giving wimpy sentences to
criminals who deserve harsh ones is wrong.  There are definitely problems
with our legal system, and it's probably too complex for any easy answers. 
But for all its shortcomings, it's still a mostly good, though inefficient,
system.  We sacrificed efficiency for accuracy.  I don't think it should be
the other way around.

Message: 62355
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Answer!
Subject: Dean
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 16:44:44

Re:  "I think that throwing out all incumbants regardless of individual
performance is the kind of wrong-headed notion that rightfully deserves to
be called simplistic."

Right!  We should only throw out the Democrats!

:-)

Message: 62356
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Answer!
Subject: Zak
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 16:47:38

Re:  "We sacrificed efficiency for accuracy."

I think we have sacrificed both efficiency and accuracy.  I think the
judicial system today is hurting.

Message: 62357
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Question?
Subject: Melissa
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 17:59:14

"Adultship"?

Message: 62358
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mofford
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 19:03:06

I'm watching her state of the State speech right now....  I think Paramount
Studios is doing her makeup.  She's got Vulcan eyebrows...

Message: 62359
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Taranto
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 20:01:15

Adultity?

Message: 62360
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter/Chester
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 21:53:35

ART?

Message: 62361
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Christmas/Gary
Date: 01/08/90  Time: 21:54:49

Just because the secular society has removed a lot of the Christian elements
from their celebration, it doesn't mean that the holiday doesn't hold any
merit among those who celebrate it for what it is.

Message: 62362
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Politics
Subject: Larry King
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 04:09:40

This Thursday on Larry King's CNN show, Ronald Reagan will be interviewed
and taking calls for a full hour.  

Message: 62363
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Zak Woodruff
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 06:12:58

 Although we are probably in basic agreement here, I think that extremism on
either end of the scale is a fault rather than a quality. As it stands, our
system is way out of balance, with the heavy end favoring the criminals,
and the ACLU has been a major contributor to that imbalance, at least in my
opinion.

Message: 62364
Author: $ Alan Hamilton
Category: Religion
Subject: U-know-who-mas
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 08:02:39

        I find it amusing to hear the Christians here complain about
Christmas being secularized, when the Christians were guilty of Christian-
izing a pagan holiday.  The trees, lights, and the guy in the red suit
aren't exactly Biblical in origin.  The same goes for Easter, with its
rabbits and colored eggs.
 
        In other news, I got one of those big book catalogs in the mail
yesterday, and one book in it was THE TAU OF POOH.  As in Winnie-the-. 
Sounds fascinating.  It oughta be right up there with THE GOSPEL ACCORDING
TO PEANUTS.
 
     /
 /  *  /  Alan
*     *

Message: 62365
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 13:00:34

I just started _The Tao of Pooh_.  So far, so good.

Message: 62366
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Good News
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 21:52:52

  Cholesterol prevents AIDS.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 62367
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Good News
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 21:55:27

  Columbia and Israel are working on a plan to put a new lockless canal
through Columbia which would allow supertankers to make the Atlantic-Pacific
crossing.
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 62368
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Rose
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 21:57:49

  The Republic said today that Rose Mofford appears to be running for
re-election, based on yesterday's speech. Doesn't a person have to be
elected first before they can be re-elected?
   See You Later
      Dean H.

Message: 62369
Author: David Ray
Category: Politics
Subject: Panama
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 22:25:23

I would have liked to see Panama get him.  They would have shot him and
justice would have been done.  In the U.S., he will get law.  What is legal
is not always just.

Message: 62370
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Alan/Pagan
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 22:50:12

  But the holiday being celebrated is CHRISTMAS. When was the last time you
went up to someone (or someone came up to you) and said "Happy Winter
Solstice?" They don't because much of the actual pagan meaning of Winter
Solstice has faded into nonexistence. The only pagan symbols left is the
tree, and perhaps a few other things. Santa Claus is a "modification" on the
name St. Nicholas, and I would have to do more research on the guy, but
wasn't he a Catholic? In short, the pagan REASONS for celebrating the
pagan holiday are all but gone. However, the holiday IS celebrated as
CHRISTMAS, and most everyone knows the reason for the Christian holiday.
Same with Easter. You don't see any large scale Ishtar fertility festivals
anymore. However, a few symbols left from it are the bunny and the egg. But
Easter (as celebrated worldwide) is known by Christians and non-Christians
alike as the celebration of the resurrection of Christ.

Message: 62371
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: LAST
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 23:27:23

     Rod Williams came up to me about three weeks ago and said, "Happy
Winter Solstice."    
     If the pagan REASONS for celebrating the pagan holiday are all but
gone what makes you think the christian REASONS for celebrating the
christian holiday won't be all but gone in another 1000 or so years?
  
Sounds like another fad to me.

Message: 62372
Author: Mike Brandon   Note:  This is me.
Category: Question?
Subject: IF
Date: 01/09/90  Time: 23:55:28

IF JESUS WAS A JEW, WHY DOES HE HAVE A MEXICAN NAME?

Message: 62373
Author: Mike Carter
Category: Answer!
Subject: Peter on Fad
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 00:41:30

You're right...I'd say in another 1000 or so years from now
there wont be a *REASON* to celebrate..simply because
it'll be a day-by-day celebration...in the 1000 years of peace...
 
Read about it in Revelations...in the yep.. Bible.
 
Truth never dies, fads do.

Message: 62374
Author: Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hamilton
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 00:48:43

"..when the Christians were guilty of Christianizing a pagan holiday." 
 
As far as the trees, the lights and the guy in the red suit are concerned,
you should come down off your great white pedestal and open your
eyes. It's the *pagans* attempting to remove the Christian history
from the holiday....things like "XMAS" etc are subversions and
a good example of subtle censorship. 
Everywhere you go, there's some screaming pagans wretching about
religious symbols . They go into frenzies of mouth foaming and
breast beating whenever they see one.
 
Yeah, time to climb down. Do you really think you can participate
in such things, then turn around and blame those whom you work against?
 
Hah. Off the pedestal.

Message: 62375
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Politics
Subject: Dean's grammar
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 05:33:43

 Since she now holds the office, regardless of how she got there, I believe
that if she runs to retain said office, re-election would be correct,
grammarwise.

Message: 62376
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: In search of
Subject: Commodore 64/128
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 06:02:41

 Looking for a good working used C64 or C128 at a reasonable price. If you
have such, please leave me E-mail. Thanks.
Paul Savage

Message: 62377
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter/Christmas
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 07:01:56

What makes me think that they won't be gone in another 1000 or so years?
Christians, that's what. (Hopefully we'll see the end of this age of things
before then.) Sound stupid? We'll, we celebrate Christmas every day of our
lives in our hearts and minds. Not the Santa and the reindeer schlemiel. but
the true meaning of the holiday: the birth of our Savior.

Message: 62378
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike/IF
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 07:02:22

Ar ar ar ar.

Message: 62379
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Pools again!
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 07:36:40

Their at it again! In this morning's paper was an article stating 'a Phoenix
advisory board recommended a poop-safety law that would require the owners
of new homes and of existing homes where there were children under age 6 to
install a barrier between pools and homes. In addition,  the board calls for
children under 6 to be protected at least with a temporary barrier when
visiting a home with a pool!' The article went on to say that even if a
grand child for instance only visited once a year, the grand parents should
have a temporary barrier. This law would be enforced on a complaint basis.
Violations would be a  misdemeanor, punishable by a maximum $2,500 fine of
30 days in jail.
If passed, this would be one of the most idiotic laws in the book! Not only
does it take away the right of a person to control their own property, but
it will make criminals out of people. How on earth could they, the law
enforce this stupid law? It is also encouraging your neighbor's to 'rat' on
you! How about the people that have very small back yards? They'd walk out
the back door smack into a fence! There is approx. 90,000 pools in the
Valley, how are they going to patrol them? By the time my three kids were 6
years old, they could swim like fish. Still, I took the responsibility to
watch them at all times. If I had been careless and lost one of them to
drowning, why should thousands of other people suffer because of me?
Some fence co. sure must have done a hell of a lot of lobbying to get this
in front of the board! Your rights are getting threatened. You'd better get
pen in hand and write to the proper people or this WILL get passed!
                          -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62380
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Winter solstice
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 12:23:49

Actualy, three people wished me a happy winter solstice.  But then, I hang
out with Theatre people...

Message: 62381
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Question?
Subject: 1000 years of piece
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 12:25:25

Is that anything like the 1000 points of light?

Message: 62382
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Question?
Subject: Bobo Oudin/62379
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 15:43:38

"poop-safety law"???

Message: 62383
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dean/reelection
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 17:16:04

Mofford was elected. Gerald Ford wasn't (and it wasn't a reelection
campaign)

Message: 62384
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 18:58:03

Re:  "Rod Williams came up to me about three weeks ago and said, "Happy
Winter Solstice.""

How come Rod doesn't log on any more?

Message: 62385
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie
Date: 01/10/90  Time: 19:02:09

Re:  "If passed, this would be one of the most idiotic laws in the book!"

I'm glad I don't live in Phoenix.

Message: 62386
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Zak/poop
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 07:44:30

'Poop Saftey law'! ... ooops, type error. That's on par with my discription
of the movie the 'High and the Nighty'! Heh. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62387
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: A Celebrity!
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 07:49:47

Seems we have our very own celebrity among us by the name of Peter Petrisko.
He had another write up in the paper, this time a pretty good sized one. His
Gallery X Elvis showing was evidently a smashing success. For those
interested, it's in today's paper (thurs.) - section E right in the center
of the page. It's by Salvatore Caputo. Congratulations Peter!
                        -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62388
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Poop saftey law
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 07:59:51

Actually, that's a pretty good discription. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62389
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Elvis
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 09:41:15

        Geee...  And I wanted to go to that showing at Gallery X myself...
But I ... (sniff) forgot!   It's Hawley's fault!

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 62390
Author: Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Carter on Fad
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 13:30:41

I suspect that BAC's will be saying about the same thing 1000 years from
now, but most likely will be speaking in Esperanto.

Message: 62391
Author: Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: ann/poop law
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 13:33:53

I agree 100 percent. Government has no right to say what goes around my
pool. Just another example of trying to protect us saps from ourselves.
Geez, next thing you know, they'll make us wear motorcycle helmets !

Message: 62392
Author: $ James White
Category: Religion
Subject: Announcement
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 14:31:19

                **********  ANNOUNCEMENT  **********
 
 ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 16TH, 1990, ALPHA AND OMEGA MINISTRIES WILL BE
PRESENTING "THE FATAL FLAW: THE ROMAN CATHOLIC DOCTRINE OF THE MASS"
               AT OUR OFFICES, 505 W. CAMELBACK, #201.
 
  The seminar will begin at 7PM, and is scheduled to run till 10PM.
    The subject will be the Roman Catholic doctrine of the Mass:
 What is it?  What do the terms "Eucharist", "Sacrifice of the Mass"
     "Propitiatory", "Satisfaction", "Disposition", etc., mean?
   And what does this teaching mean to the Christian who believes
             in the completed work of Christ on Calvary?
       Why is the Mass the "Fatal Flaw" which demonstrates the
                non-Christian character of Romanism?
  
        All are invited.  Call 265-4844 for further details.

Message: 62393
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Booklets
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 15:50:41

If anyone wants copies of the booklets or stories please let me know before
the end of friday.  I will be making my trip to the copiers on Saturday and
then I start a new job and school on Tuesday.
You can leave me mail.
Bye,
Melissa D.

Message: 62394
Author: $ Robert Knee
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Demonic liberation
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 19:42:13

     Now as never before, the women of the western nations have tasted of
freedom and liberation, and now the underdeveloped nations are following
suite as more women are able to be educated both at home and abroad.  The
stronghold of women's liberation is of course in the universities and
colleges, where women are taught that they are equal, that they are free,
that they need to be liberated from male oppression and that they are
actually superior to men in every manner.
     Women, who in many instances, have known what oppression is, eat up
this delightful cake, they believe it, they begin to think more and more
about it, and then they try to live it.  Out of this delightful delicacy
which the devil has cooked up and women world wide have eaten, has come much
devastation and destruction, and the freedom which women have been promised
actually becomes more oppressive than the bondage to which they believe
themselves to have previously been held in.
     In Christ, God does not hinder a woman from seeking Him, nor does He
refuse the right to a woman to minister those things which are directed by
His Spirit and are meant for His people.  However, the Lord made man first
and He made woman to be his helpmate, not his oppressor.  What this new
liberation is doing is actually a reverse of what has transpired in times
past, for no longer are women being oppressed, but they are now the
oppressors.  How foolish women are as they swell up wtih the pride of their
rights and forget their god given roles, and lose the fulfillment which
comes from staying in order with God.
     God does not want women oppressed, but neither does he dictate that men
should be oppressed, but the new mentality, (which is the fruit of Satan's
craftiness) brings both parties into oppression and bondage.  God never
intended for women to be with other women, but if one investigates the roots
of the "women's liberation" one will find that its' very roots are from
hell, and the beautiful flowers are nothing but poison.  The underlying
tenet of the movement is hatred for men, and the natural consequence of
thinking, believing, and living the doctrines of the movement is lesbianism.
     Most liberated women will try and even live in lesbianism under the
pretext that only women can really understand and know how to love a woman. 
THAT IS A LIE FROM THE DEVIL, BECAUSE SUCH RELATIONSHIPS WILL END THE
PARTICIPANTS UP IN HELL, AND WHAT KIND OF TRUE LOVE WILL END THE LOVED ONE
IN HELL??  The only truly "liberated woman" is the one who has learned to
submit to Jesus Christ and to know Him, for then, whether she is married or
not, she will know the true love of a saviour who will not lie, and through
submission to JESUS CHRIST comes the greatest liberation of all, the
liberation from sin!!!

Message: 62396
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Esperanto?
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 20:56:04

"Yeah, right...uh huh!"
                        - Prince

Message: 62397
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Elvis GT
Date: 01/11/90  Time: 23:14:46

Zak called you from the GT, but he refused to speak with you.

Message: 62398
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Question?
Subject: Last?
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 00:14:21

        Please explain?  Why would Zak not wish to speak with me?  He knows
I can be trusted as a friend.

*=* the 'Puzzled' Apollo Sysop *=*

Message: 62399
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger Mann
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 09:10:10

I don't believe in Helmet laws either. If I want to protect myself, that's
up to me, not the government. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62400
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: War!
Subject: Robert/demonic
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 09:11:37

I found you demonic liberation posts total nonsense. Sorry, I do not agree
with any of it! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62401
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: News Today
Subject: Fluoridation
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 09:14:15

Why are we being forced/have been force to have our water fluoridated? Since
when is the city father's so concerned about our dental health? From what
I've read over the years, it seems the majority does not want it. I feel it
should be up to the individual, not the government.
The fluoridation company sure must have good lobbiests. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62402
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Politics
Subject: Fluoridation
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 10:17:21

  It's those lesbians from hell again!
    See You Later,
&~   Dean H.

Message: 62403
Author: Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: elvis/leno
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 13:08:21

Jay Leno had a funny one liner:
"This was the first anniversary of Elvis' death that he hasn't been seen
somewhere.... Gee, you don't think something has happened to him, do you ?"

Message: 62404
Author: Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: women
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 13:13:48

Ain't it great that God made us men first. 'Cause if He made the women 
first, we would be the helpmeets of our wives. (A concept too alien and
weird to even comprehend). Ah, but God didn't, so we are on top (except
for some perverts who don't have sex God's way) of the situation and all's
well with the world. Pretty soon God will punish those who don't follow in
His ways, and if He doesn't we'll just get a head start on things. Right
Guys !!!

Message: 62405
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Drug Talk
Subject: Demonic Liberation
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 13:37:59

Is this guy for real?

Message: 62406
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Helmet
Date: 01/12/90  Time: 23:17:52

  The only people for helmet laws are those who haven't had their brains
scrambled in a cycle accident yet. Look at Busey now.

Message: 62407
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 03:17:35

Well I think he was trying to find Rod to talk to you and couldn't.

Message: 62408
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger on women
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 08:33:40

I can't quite figure out your 'women posts'. Either you hate them or you are
the type that can't relate to them. Who cares if God made man or woman
first? What came first, the chicken or the egg and which is more important?
We are all just human. This helpmate, head of the household stuff is
crapola! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62409
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/Busey
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 08:37:33

And he is STILL against helmets! If I rode a bike, I'd wear a helmet as I do
a seat belt. But I don't think it should be made manditory.
BTW - did you know they are thinking about passing a law that would require
you to wear a seatbelt in national forrests, parks etc. etc. This is just
one step towards making it manditory period. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62410
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: James Hawley?
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 11:36:08

        Rod knows my phone number...  He is welcome to call or visit me at
any time.  I still think of him as a friend....  The problem seems to be at
his end.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 62411
Author: Roger Mann
Category: News Today
Subject: fluoridation/ann
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 15:57:33

I disagree with you. Fluoridation really helps with tooth decay. My kids
grew up in Mass. until they were teenagers. Never had a problem with tooth
decay. I grew up in Cleveland with no fluoridation, and had a lot of
problems with my teeth. I'm glad they had fluoride. You should want it here
for your children's sake.

Message: 62412
Author: Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: ann on women
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 16:01:45

My post was entirely tongue in cheek. I tend to have a very dry sense of
humor and don't always use smileys, so think of me saying it with a
cocked eyebrow and a sarcastic look on my face.

Message: 62413
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 16:56:58

A cocked eyebrow?
And a tongue in your cheek?
 
An interesting picture indeed.

Message: 62414
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff on Rod
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 17:13:06

Why does he have to call you?  You know his phone number.

Message: 62415
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 17:17:24

Re:  "I'm glad they had fluoride. You should want it here for your
children's sake."
        
I agree with you.  I grew up with all kinds of cavities.  My kids have none.

Message: 62416
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: B-Dog on Rod
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 17:50:46

        I have written him...  I have tried to call him from time to
time....but I never got an answer.  Besides, it is Rod who has the problem
communicating.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 62417
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Busey
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 18:22:44

Where have you been recently? Not too long ago, Busey embraced the
pro-helmet movement.

Message: 62418
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff/Rod
Date: 01/13/90  Time: 22:40:24

Zak was trying to get Rod to talk to you at the GT, but couldn't find him at
the time.  

Message: 62419
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: War!
Subject: Robert Knee
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 03:27:39

     Where did your messages come from?  They don't seem to be in response
to something said earlier on this board.  Did you get them from some
religious literature, or did you just feel the urge to throw your ideas
about women's liberation out to us?
     
     A few problems:
 
     -- You identify women's freedom as a cause of their own oppression, but
fail to explain just how more freedom can be oppressive.
     -- You cite women's freedom and equality as a cause of much harm to
society, yet fail to explain just how this has harmed society.
     -- You state that educational systems teach women that they are
not only equal, but superior.  This is not true.
     -- You state that the women's liberation movement is, if one checks
into the "roots," based in hell and evil.  What unknown roots does the
movement have that show this to be the case?  Is it documented?
     -- You indicate that the Bible has a specific place for women.  Can you
cite passages backing up this claim?
     -- You state that the women's liberation movement is based on a hatred
for men, the logical conclusion of it being lesbianism.  In fact, lesbians
are just a small minority of the women who fight for and have gained rights.
 

Message: 62420
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: flouride
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 04:11:46

Flouride has been implicated in causing certain types of cancer.

Message: 62421
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Beau on Cliff on Rod
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 05:42:41

 Why should Cliff have to go begging anybody to log on Apollo?
 Personally, I think that this BBS is running much smoother without
Williams. Matter of fact, I hadn't even missed him, and still don't.
The only reason that I was not in a constant state of war with him was that
I made it a point never to respond to his insanity. Now I don't have to
squelch the temptation.

Message: 62422
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: flouride
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 05:48:02

 I heard just yesterday that the EPA is investigating reports of a link
between flourides and a type of bone cancer in laboratory rats.
 Perhaps all the facts are not yet on the table, and the risk shold be
weighed against the benefits before we are forced to use the water.
 We have an R/O system that I believe effectively filters out the flouride,
along with chlorine and a lot of other junk. At least it's some of the best
tasting water I have ever had.

Message: 62423
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Roger/fluoradation
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 08:02:09

You may be right in all you say - but why should it be forced upon us? Can't
it simply be a choice? 
My children are all old enough to make their own decisions. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62424
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Daryl/Busey
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 08:03:57

Where have you been recently? Busey remained embraced against manditory
helmet laws! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62425
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Zakey
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 08:05:53

Loved your answer to Mr. Knee re: women! Thanks Zak. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62426
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bobby
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 08:09:39

Me thinks that the reason you had tooth problems and your kids do not is
more in what they eat than the flyoridation. We eat better today than we did
when we were kids.
BTW - not that this has anything to do with the subject ... met a friend of
yours the other day - John Douglas! He bought my piano - mention he lived in
your area and I ask if he knew you - said indeed he did and that your boys
went to the same school. He and his wife certainly are a nice couple and
SOOOOO talented on the piano. Was so glad they got it. Have you heard her
play? It's a treat. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 62427
Author: Larry Winn
Category: Chit Chat
Subject:  PAUL SAVAGE
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 09:28:28

PAUL, I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO SHOUT. SUCH IS THE NATURE OF MY EQUIPMENT; NO
LOWER CASE.
EVERYTHING I READ ON THE SCREEN IS UPPER CASE, TOO. NO PROBLEM HERE.
MUST BE THE AGE DIFFERENCE. I CAN REMEMBER TELETYPES.

Message: 62428
Author: Larry Winn
Category: Politics
Subject: INCUMBENTS/HATHAWAY
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 09:47:18

THE PROBLEM WITH INCUMBENTS IS THAT THEY LEARN, AFTER A FEW YEARS, HOW TO
WORK THE SYSTEM. THEY GAIN CONTACTS, ARE INFLUENCED BY THEIR PEERS OF LONG
STANDING IN POLITICS AND, EVENTUALLY, THEY BECOME CORRUPT.
OF COURSE, THAT IS A GENERALIZATION, AND LIKE ALL OF THOSE IT HAS
EXCEPTIONS. 
DUMPING THE INCUMBENT IS A SAFE MOVE IF YOU ARE NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH
THE CANDIDATE AND HIS/HER MOTIVATION, HOWEVER.
AS TO ANY LACK OF CONSIDERATION FOR HIS CONSTITUENCY, I'D FEEL A LOT MORE
COMFORTABLE IF TODAY'S POLITICIAN WERE SURE HE'D BE IN MY SHOES TOMORROW.
BESIDES, HATHAWAY, I'M NOT SUGGESTING A LAW, JUST A SIMPLE STRATEGY FOR USE
WHEN INFORMATION IS INCOMPLETE, AS IT USUALLY IS.

Message: 62429
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Fluoride
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 09:55:31

Please note that the correct spelling is "fluoride."

Message: 62430
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT/last
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 12:16:25

Thank you for that important safety tip.

Message: 62431
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 12:34:06

Re:  "Me thinks that the reason you had tooth problems and your kids do not
is more in what they eat than the flyoridation. We eat better today than we
did when we were kids."

It's possible that fluoridation is not the reason my boy's teeth are better
than mine were, but it isn't because of their diet.  They eat a lot of junk
food that was not available to me as a kid.

Message: 62432
Author: Melissa Dee
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Kate Bush
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 12:56:20

Wow.  Her lastest CD is beyond great.  

Message: 62433
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: War!
Subject: Paul Savage
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 13:58:34

I beg to differ.  I miss Rod Williams' presence on the board.  So he wasn't
always conductive to a "smooth-" running system.  Who cares?  Smooth-running
is boring!  

Message: 62434
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Larry Winn...
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 14:18:11

        If you have such a machine as an old teletype....  Feel free to
SHOUT all you want.    It is understood.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 62435
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last on R.W.
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 14:22:40

        I will have to say...Complaints to me in mail is WAY DOWN!
Way, Way Down......   However, I do like Rod as a person and find him
interesting.   But you may note.... I ain't standing on my head to force him
back again.   I'm getting too old for this!

Peace & Love Brothers.....

                        *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*

Message: 62436
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 15:39:41

And people logging on is WAY DOWN.

Message: 62437
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 19:12:01

You may not be standing on your head to force Rod back, but you do seem to
make a point of mentioning him on a regular basis.

Message: 62438
Author: Roger Mann
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: melissa/weird face
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 19:20:47

yes, it looks like this : ;-^

Message: 62439
Author: Jeff Beck
Category: Question?
Subject: Melissa/Zakisms
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 22:49:19

Great like really good, or great like Hitler?  (No, I don't think Hitler was
"great"...if you don't get it, forget it)

Message: 62440
Author: Jeff Beck
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Robert Knee
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 22:54:09

I like this guy, if only because he uses phrases like "the fruit of Satan's
craftiness."

Message: 62441
Author: Jeff Beck
Category: Answer!
Subject: 62375
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 22:56:59

Anyone who uses the term "grammarwise" is in no position to judge grammar.

Message: 62442
Author: Jeff Beck
Category: Answer!
Subject: 62353/XMAS
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 23:00:57

Well, I'm an atheist, and I happen to think that the X stands for the first
letter of the Greek spelling of Christ's name.  So there goes your theory.

Message: 62443
Author: Jeff Beck
Category: Joke
Subject: The Princeton Review
Date: 01/14/90  Time: 23:08:28

From "Word Smart; building an educated vocabulary", by the staff of the
Princeton Review :
 
Assembly Language: A programming language for professionals only.
 
If I was them, I'd be a mite contrite.