Apollo BBS Archive - December 1991

Apollo BBS Archive - December 4, 1991

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 1:I almost forgot to answer your question about locksmiths needing perfect 
 2:vision.  The best locksmith I have ever met, Leroy Schellenbaum, was near 
 3:legally blind, had very poor eyesight, wore thick glasses and when 
 4:'impressioning a key', wore a cheap, dollar pair, scratched up lenses, 
 5:head-wear magnifiers.  That man could impression anything and very fast.
 6:
 7:Whenever I feel blue or tired and I have more work to do, I think of Leroy 
 8:and his ailments.  He had many.
 9:
10:Prior to locksmithing, Leroy retired as a Master Sergeant in the Air Force. 
11:He served as line mechanic and line mechanic M/S for 20 some years and when 
12:he retired, after serving all over the world, he became a literal 
13:stormtrooper of locksmithing.  He is built like a Roman Soldier and that is 4:what he reminded me of.
15:
16:So, the answer to your question, in order to be a locksmith, all you need is
17:the desire.  Handicapped or no, we each develop ways of doing similiar 
18:functions that are adequate.
19:
20:There is some independence in Locksmithing although I would watch out for 
21:building a clientele that is 7 day, 24 hours, unless you are willing to 
22:train another.  If you like traveling then you don't need to stay in a given
23:area but after five years of same, going all over, I can no longer handle 
24:it.  Take care you, Sandy and the boys.            -Rod


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Message: 2097
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Yawn...
Subject: Yowza
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 03:26:51

At work until 11:30pm last night, back in by 8:30am.  (I started at 7:30am
that day).  Tonight I worked until 3am.  I have to be back in the morning
sometime, I'm aiming for 10am.

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Subject:lotsawork

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Message: 8728
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: The shoot...
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 08:24:43

        Let me say this about the GT.  I know this is NOT my GT and maybe I
should not say anything, but... Get Togethers this late in the year (Dec)
very seldom work out.  Sandy and I are also fighting back a cold (flu? hope
not) and feel rather run down.  Sandy is worse off, as she works long hours.

        I would suggest for a better turn out, that the end of the first
month or sometime in the second month (or even later) may be better.  But,
this is not up to me...  Just my two cents worth!

        Also, I do not seem to recall seeing a location.  Rod's suggestion
is out of the question as the smog downtown will kill us for sure.  I would
like to see one where we can grill hot-dogs for the shooters.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- party pooper

Message: 8729
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: Where?  When?
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:02:35

We'd better get something decided on the Shoot-Out GT.  My wife wants to go
up north with the in-laws to despoil the environment of one more scrawny,
misshapen weed she'll call a Christmas tree sometime this weekend.  I need
to know what's when.

Message: 8730
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: Where? When?
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:56:07

Under the circumstances maybe we should wait for a while.  Now I've got two
Christmas parties this weekend.  One on Saturday and one on Sunday.

Message: 8731
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: Geezz
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:13:06

Sure, as soon as I push for a realization of this dream GT, it falls to
pieces...
:)
Actually, I don't mind waiting since there are plenty of things for me to do
that I have been putting off.  And the holidays do get in the way of things,
now don't they?

Message: 8732
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Melissa
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:11:19

Yes, you're *so* right!  Holidays especially get in the way of WORK!  It's a
real pain.  It's a special pain to the people you work *for*, who
unfortunately are often workaholics themselves...

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Message: 5178
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: 80268 PUB/Nick
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 05:53:37

        If you don't call one male butt-fucking another male immoral,  then
what do you call it?

        Personaly... I don't care what they do, but when MY TAX dollars are
spent to make it SAFE for them to play their unnatural games, I have the
RIGHT to barf and say a few words to express my disapproval.

        I knotice on the PUBlic board you keep referring to media hype and
death 'estimates' as FACT.  ???  The ONLY fact *I* can see, is that someone
has made this (wild?) estimate of projected deaths from the AIDS virus. 
These are NOT facts, but CONJECTURE.  When they are dead and buried, you may
call them 'facts'.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- 

P.S.  By the way Niiiiick...  You're a BUM

Message: 5179
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Melissa/Alliteration
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 08:45:36

Yes, indeed. I went back and re-read the beginning of the piece. Lot's of
b's, bub !!!

Message: 5181
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer !
Subject: Bees
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:14:57

Yeah, I sort of forgot that thread as the story progressed.  It might be fun
to try a whole story that way, but it'd be hard to take it seriously.
 
Gordon:  nice try....NOT

Message: 5182
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer !
Subject: Cliff
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:16:03

I don't see anything immoral about anal intercourse.  Many folks would agree
with you, and yet I'm sure many would agree with me.  
Different strokes...

Message: 5183
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Dee on anal
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:34:57

        Anal intercourse is not natural.  The rear end is not even designed
for such usage and can be damaged severely.  Hence, it is immoral.

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- 

Message: 5184
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Design?
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 21:46:00

Who's the Architect?  I have a few suggestions for improvements.

Message: 5185
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Cliff
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:13:43

Do you think it's immoral to damage one's own body voluntarily?

Where do tattooing and ear piercing fit?

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 1:  The liver can be damaged severely by drinking alcohol.  I guess that would
 2:make drinking immoral. 
 3:  The lungs can be damaged severely by smoking cigarettes.  I guess.... 
 4:well, you get the idea. 
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 6:  This stinking cesspool of a planet is immoral.
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Message: 1983
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Blowing Smoke
Subject: Sandy
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 05:58:43

        Not *my* Sandy, but my brother's Sandy has given up smoking now for
over a month.  She said the other day she is now suddenly starting to feel
better and has more energy.  Congrats to Brother Bob's Sandy Kolostow.
Brother Bob does not, nor has ever smoked...  except for a joint or two when
we were young.  That's another story... (stupidity)

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- 

Message: 1984
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Blowing Smoke
Subject: last
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 06:29:24

Congratulations to Sandy, and to everyone who has had the intelligence and
fortitude to put the weeds down for good!
 How long has it been now for you, Annie gal? Keep it up!

Message: 1985
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Blowing Smoke
Subject: MY brother
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:18:34

has been trying since about August.  He will go for weeks without a puff and
then will buy a pack, smoke one, then throw the pack away.  Over
Thanksgiving weekend, however, he smoked 4 in a row before coming down to
visit our mother.

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Message: 80268
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: AIDS/immorality
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 05:01:50

You can't cure immorality?  Are you saying that AIDS is a disease of
immorality, and less than moral behavior should be punishable by death?  I
think your attitude is morally bankrupt.

Message: 80269
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Fred
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 06:14:29

You ask how "one" indentifies righteous people. The answer is probably so
simple that you won't accept it, but I'll try anyway. "One" doesn't. God
does. TO identify anyone as righteous OR unrighteous is, in fact,
judgemental, and that is not really a prerogative of man. It is God's job,
and His alone. The reason for this is that righteosness is really a matter
of the spirit, not always necessarily the outward works, although it SHOULD
show in the works of the individual. WHile all we can see is the works, God
alone knows the heart. I hope that has answered your question.
 Since I have not bashed your unbelief, please respond in kind, and don't
use this as another excuse to bash my belief. Thanks.

Message: 80270
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: War!
Subject: ANN!
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:01:34

> I can say I personaly know several woman, that a few years ago
> wouldn't have thought about sleeping around and they do now.
 
You really should get smarter friends, Ann.
 
> ...we do not agree what so ever.
 
I wish I could do more to help you see the light.
 
> ...if one asked how did Magic get AIDS, [Bill] believes in
> lying to them telling them "NO one knows for sure"!!!
 
        As to the substance of this comment, I maintain that no one, not
even Magic, KNOWS how he contracted the HIV.  We can make good guesses, but
NO ONE KNOWS.  Interesting how willing you are to accept media speculation
when it suits your purpose.
        Beyond that, I do not appreciate you calling me a liar, Ann.  This
has been an enjoyable and invigorating discussion.  You have dragged it down
to a personal level.  This is a shame.  I'll have nothing more to say on the
subject.  At least not to you.  There's no point.

Message: 80271
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gordon on Kids
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:26:55

I'm sorry Gordon. It isn't often that I disagree with you so strongly, but I
just cannot believe that the .... "reporter is doing the kid a favor by
stimulating him to ask questions". I don't think parents send their kids to
school to have them make statements to the press. If that had happened to
one of my children, out of general principal, whether he/she knew all about
AIDS, gays, etc. - I'd raise holy heck. Years ago they gave my kid an I.Q.
test without my permission and wouldn't give me the results. I don't feel
that was within their rights either. As long as parents don't abuse their
children outright, it is their responsibility and no one else's to teach
those children how and what they want them to know. Not my neighbor's
responsibility and certainly not a reporter. I'm an advocate of 'people
minding their own business'. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80272
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Fred #80249
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:38:19

Well - I must say that I don't disagree with all you said there. The only
thing I do is with the media hype. The media is 'faddie' - they keep things
up front to sell papers. Well that's understandable, but they go too far. I
think with this AIDS thing - as deadly and threatening as it is - could be,
they are scaring the hell out of us for very little reason - at least at
this point. Someone dies from it for example and we are treated to 'his last
moments of life'! If some innocent child has it, they hype that until we are
all crying. But it is rare to get it innocently! Yet with all the hype, we
are scared to get near an AIDs patient - we want our doctors and dentists to
wear gloves and heaven help us if we need a transfusion. Because of the
latter, some people have died because they wouldn't get a transfusion, yet
it is very safe to do so now. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80273
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike on AIDS
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:42:07

# 80251 - thanks for the post about where the money is going. I agree with
you 1,000%. I just can't believe that they also want to pull monies off of
other research also. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80274
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cat on men
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:42:58

Sure, men are the head of the household - as long as he does what the woman
says. :-) -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80275
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Melissa
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:50:41

AIDS IS a preventable disease - the people that die from heart disease and
cancer brought on by smoking is preventable ---- BUT ----- how about the
hundreds of thousands of people that die from those 2 diseases that don't
smoke?? That aren't in contact with second hand smoke? You don't contact
AIDS by standing next to a person with it! You get AIDS for the most part by
putting your sexual organ into someone else's sexual organ by mutual
agreement. If the zipper remains 'zipped' and the panties remain 'up' ...
... VOILA ... it's a MIRACLE! The dreaded disease is cured!!! Praise God!
                               -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80276
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter on AIDS
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 09:56:54

I absolutely think we should NOT IGNORE AIDS! I never said we should.
I just believe it is over-hyped and we are following right along with it.
                             -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80277
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nick
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 10:03:20

As much as this will probably stick in your craw - a little morality would
go a LONG way in curing the AIDS problem. You see - we have made a dirty
word out of the word 'morality' and have made the 'F' word exceptable and
that is exactly what is wrong! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80278
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bill/last
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 10:07:05

What a bunch of horse feathers that post was. You can dish it out but can't
take it. Remember, you said of one of my post that is was baloney. 
I think you like to argue for argument's sake. Talk about no point.
                            -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 80279
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: News Today
Subject: Terry Anderson
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 11:12:17

        If the imformation is correct, Terry Anderson (the last hostage) has
been released today.  I sure hope this will end the nightmare this country
has been going though for the last decade.

        I wish all the hostages a happy home coming....

*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*  <-clif- In 'God' We Trust

Message: 80280
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Pete
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:34:36

Re:  You can't cure ignorance either.  It's lethal but kills much more
slowly.

Hmmmmmm. Maybe we should pull all the funds going for AIDS and put it into a
cure for stupidity?  The only problem with that is what one man calls stupid
another man calls smart and vice versa.

Message: 80281
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:41:19

Re:  Finding a cure/vaccination is a matter of time we don't have.

Who doesn't have the time?  I've got all the time in the world.  If we don't
find a cure for the next 100 years it won't effect me or most of the people
I know one little bit.

Now there is a certain category of people who don't have the time.  All we
need to do is teach them what safe sex is.  Oh, I forgot.  Teaching them
safe sex doesn't work very well.  Most of them already know, but don't
practice it anyway. 

Message: 80282
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bill
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:45:54

Re:  I maintain that no one, not even Magic, KNOWS how he contracted the
HIV.

I would suppose that no one, not even you, KNOWS that your name is Bill.

But it seems pretty obvious. 

It would also seem pretty stupid to question either what your name is or as
to how Magic contracted HIV.

Message: 80283
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 15:52:34

Re:  You see - we have made a dirty word out of the word 'morality' and have
made the 'F' word exceptable

Excellent point Annie!  At one time a chaste person was honorable, and the
adulterer was condemned.  Now it seems to be the other way around.  Sad.

Message: 80284
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: AIDS NO EFFECT
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:07:56

I love these guys who think AIDS is not going affect them. Well, my good
man, when our hospitals are full of AIDS patients and we have a medical
crisis that will mean a health crisis for all because our health care system
has broken down because we have millions of AIDS patients requiring
intensive care, YOU WILL BE AFFECTED.
 
If we have a cure for AIDS this crisis can be averted.
 

Message: 80285
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:30:22

Show me the statistics that there are "hundreds of thousands" of people that
die each year from those two diseases that didn't get it from a smoking
related cause, and I will just as sympathic.  Unless of course, they are
overweight...
The problem seems to lie with this:  everyone is upset about the money. 
Well, if AIDS is the biggest problem right now, then I think the money
should be put towards it's research, proportional to the other diseases. 
But AIDS may not be the biggest problem.  It's still heart disease.  
I don't know.  It's all petty.  One will want the money to go to the disease
that is effecting them the most.  It's just a matter of personal perception.
 
I'm going to bed.  Night night

Message: 80286
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mr Lantern
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 20:43:20

        Our hospitals will never be full of AIDS patients as you have
suggested.  If I recall correctly, you predicted our hospitals were going to
be full of G.I.s from the Iraq war... along with many thousands of body
bags.  I think you over-react Mr Lantern.   Hmmm, you might make money as a
newspaper reporter...

Message: 80287
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: News Today
Subject: Terry Anderson
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 21:42:35

Just a little correction to the Sysop's announcement of Mr. Anderson's
release.  He is the last *American* to be released.  There are, I
understand, two Germans still in captivity.

Message: 80288
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: News Today
Subject: Beau
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:27:42

Thank you for pointing that out.  It's easy to miss a little point like
that, because foreigners aren't really very important, are they?

On 28th of June (I think), I put up a few posts recalling the assassination
of Franz Ferdinand and his wife 77 years previously, and noted that it might
not be the last time Serbian ambitions would lead to serious trouble.  Oddly
enough, there wasn't one single comment.

Subsequently I had a curious experience.  I went to Europe in September, and
I got the impression that a civil war had broken out in Yugoslavia exactly
at the time I arrived there.  It was on the front pages of all the
newspapers (including the International Herald Tribune), almost every day
for over two weeks.

It seemed to die down the instant I arrived back in the U.S.  It certainly
didn't *end*, because now I was *noticing* those news items about bombing
and hundreds of civilians being killed, tucked away on page 3 and page 7. 
But when I dug back through the older newspapers, I now realized that this
catastrophic event was going on all the time really.  It just wasn't deemed
worthy of the front page in a U.S. newspaper at the time.

Message: 80289
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Drug Talk
Subject: Blowing smoke
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:29:55

So if people didn't smoke, 1 in 6 deaths would be *prevented*.  Wow! 
Immortality is something we've *never* achieved before -- even if it is only
for one person in six!

Message: 80290
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Question?
Subject: Ann/Kids' Press Conf
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:31:18

I'm trying to understand what it is you're afraid of.  As I mentioned
before, I didn't see this TV interview so I don't know precisely what was
said; but the impression I got was that reporters asked the kids whether
they knew about Magic Johnson's illness, and if they knew what it was, and
what they thought and felt about it all.  The kids talked back and gave
their opinions.  There was a two-way information flow, but I inferred that
most of it came from the kids -- since the reporters commented on how
knowledgeable they were.  It didn't sound as if reporters were "educating"
the kids, or telling them "you get AIDS from anal intercourse", or whatever.

So what precise element of this procedure don't you like?  You think kids
shouldn't be allowed to make statements to the press?  Why shouldn't they?
Do you think it's exploiting kids by making them look bad in public?  How?
Are you afraid it's going to reflect badly on their parents in some way?
How?  This interview doesn't seem to have made either of them look bad.
Anyway, freedom of speech is a right protected by the First Amendment.  I
don't remember anything about an age limit in there.

I'd object to reporters prying out information about the kids' families and
broadcasting it.  That would be exploiting kids' naivete to invade the
privacy of others.  But that isn't what they did.  What they asked the kids
about was entirely in the public domain.  If you think the reporters should
have minded their own business, whose privacy do you think was violated, and
how?  What private information was published that shouldn't have been?

Message: 80291
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Question?
Subject: Ann (2/2)
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 22:32:30

Do you think this was a kind of testing procedure like the IQ test they gave
your child?  In a way I suppose it was.  I wouldn't object to tests, since
they're a necessary way of getting feedback about how well education is
working.  I would object violently to having the results deliberately kept
secret from me, since I'm paying the educators.  But nothing was kept secret
in this interview.

Do you object to reporters asking children math or geography questions at
random, to demonstrate how much or how little they know of these subjects?
I wouldn't have any objection to this.  I think it's useful and a matter of
public interest to know how well children are being educated.  If they come
off badly, the public *ought* to know, so that they can demand that the
educators they're paying get off their butts and do their job -- or so that
parents themselves can do something about teaching their children.

Or is your real objection to the fact that somebody *told* these kids of the
existence of AIDS, or sex, or something related to it?  I noted carefully
your assertion that "it is [parents'] responsibility and no one else's to
teach those children how and what they want them to know."  Well, I agree
that it's the parents' responsibility to teach a child what they want them
to know.  But they can *always* exercise that right.  Who's stopping them?
Or are you telling me that a parent should *also* have the right to keep a
child in total ignorance?  If so, that's quite a different argument.

Message: 80292
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: On the Lighter Side
Subject: AIDS, a cure?
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 23:40:29

What I think about anal intercourse, by Rod Williams

I think poop comes out of there....well, I know for a fact that poop
comes out of there.  The anus is a release point for toxins and waste. 
Why would someone want to put a penis in one?  A penis has two main
purposes, one is for taking a pee, which humans do more often than the
second purpose......cuming.  Climaxing is totally natural but often is
forced because of false leads to the brain box.  In a natural
environment the female secrets a chemical that can drive a man wild,
wild, wild, beyond belief.  This odor is a natural arousal to
hetro-sexuals and bi-sexuals.  But because we live in a less than
perfect environment, we haven't gotten it right.  Sex seems to be more
of a pastime because of un-natural stimuli found in our society.  The
way we look at sex is tainted by a society who bases wealth on it. 
Peep show 25 cents.

Sex is okay, and since it is the thing that feels best, most like
a mental heaven, then we become addicted to it.  Friendship is the
very best.  A mental climax is ten times more powerful and lasts for
weeks, even months.  That is when your minds meld and you know you are
friends.  Those who marry for a steady supply of sex should cultivate
that which transcends it, friendship.  Friendship is knowing that you
are one, that all are one.  That you cannot love one friend more than
another, that no one is the greater.

Message: 80293
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: On the Lighter Side
Subject: Just perhaps!
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 23:41:23

I explained to Jasmine, when we first met, that the love that I have
in me for her, is the love I have in me for everyone.  It is the same. 
I cannot love one individual more than I can love the whole.

This is a mental climax when this knowledge is shared.  And share that
climax with all your friends, men, women, goats,.......and please, do
not forget the cow.  

Moo!!


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