Apollo BBS Archive - December 3, 1991


Mail from Apollo SysOp
Date: 12/03/91  Time: 22:44:35

        I may end up doing somethink like locksmithing to save my bacon.

        Extending time....  adding another 15 min to the standard 35 min is
$10.00.  This is a one time charge...not a yearly thing.

        I may have an 8 part proto-type job coming next week that sounds
good...  I got my fingers crossed it does not fall though like some jobs
have.

        I am having such a hard time with my eyes...  I can hardly read
Micrometers or see where my tool is cutting even when I am wearing my
glasses.  Like now the key board is blured and I am having a difficult time
reading.  I am getting worried that my eyes are failing so fast...  I wonder
if there are any vitimins that help eye-sight.  Do you need good eye-sight
to do locksmithing?

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 1:The eye like the bicep can get weak but can be made strong.  We keep our 
 2:focal distances the same for so long that our eyes lose some of their 
 3:ability to quick focus at a different length.  We keep our tv's in the same 
 4:spot year after year and we sit in the same chair.  We hold our reading 
 5:material at the same distance.
 6:
 7:When I first came to this state I wore glasses and had to in order to drive 
 8:but I spent so much time out in the desert and on the tops of mountains that
 9:when my license came up for renewal I passed the eye test easily.  We are 
10:also programmed by the number of times around the sun for our eyesight to 
11:wane.  I have fallen into the same trap being a locksmith for the past 15 
12:years.  Every once in a while I shift things to a new focal distance and my 
13:eyes will become accustomed to it.  Some organizations have eye exercize 
14:charts that they claim work.  I can see why.

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Message: 5177
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 00:53:21

Could have been a "billowy blue brocade bed", I suppose -- except that
"brocade" just doesn't sound billowy enough.  Too stiff and starchy.  It
doesn't bluster and bloom in the breeze.

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Message: 1560
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Chit-Chat & Sing
Subject: Rod
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 00:55:31

Thanks for the tip.  I'll open it up and take a look at this belt when I get
time.  Perhaps I could replace it with a chain of condoms tied together?

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 1:Actually you may have something there.  The ring of a condom may just work. 
 2:I chose a bicycle inner tube.  Get some good lubriplate and dab it on all 
 3:areas that move, except for the laser.  Don't forget to unplug.
 4:
 5:I'll let you know what I find at Dalis Electronics.  Perhaps they have an 
 6:inexpensive assortment.
 7:
 8:(If this works I get your first born.)
 9:end

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Message: 80261
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dee...
Date: 12/03/91  Time: 22:56:18

        But Dee... I was in the Navy... A FLEET sailor... In Barcelona
I saw lots of action.  Subic bay...  Sorry Dee, I find it hard to believe 
you have seen more in a state side dorm.  Have you ever been a fleet sailor?

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P.S.  Have you even seen the Navy 'shore leave #^(& films'?  and what
happens to you when you get V.D. ?

Message: 80263
Author: James Matlock
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: sexual habits
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 00:12:11

There's no doubt that a large if not majority of the AIDS cases in this
country have been due to transmission by homosexual men with multiple
partners.
 
What percentage of homosexual men have multiple partners, however, is an
*entirely* separate question.  
 
I don't believe that broad opinions about promiscuity among either
heterosexual or homosexual populations can be rationally based on the rather
limited personal experiences of any particular individual.
 
On the other hand, I doubt that homosexuals are any more intrinsically
monogamous than heterosexuals.  There is certainly enough study of the
sexual habits of Americans during the seventies to support the conclusion
that homosexuals were just as freewheeling sexually as heterosexuals,
particularly since that decade was the one in which the gay lobby became
openly active and assertive.  
 
Whether there has been a modification of sexual behavior among homosexuals
in response to AIDS I don't know.  I rather doubt, however, that, given the
widespread (correct) impression that homosexual promiscuity is a key force
in the spread of HIV in this country, many individuals would be likely to
admit an irresponsible lifestyle even if such was the case.

Message: 80264
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Kids
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 01:17:34

I didn't hear anybody say that the reporter was "educating" the kids about
anything.  I thought he was *asking* the kids what they knew -- asking them
their opinion -- about an event that had been in the news.  Are we seriously
saying that an adult doesn't have a right to come up and ask a kid a
question?  I agree that asking a kid "how often Mommy and Daddy have sex" is
a gross invasion of privacy.  But that's manipulating kids into disclosing
information that really belongs to someone else.  I don't see anyone
objecting when, as often happens, TV reporters do their local interest bit
and interview kids, say, who've just been to see Santa Claus at the mall and
ask them things like what they want for Christmas -- or afterwards, ask them
what they actually got.  Even though that might disclose personal
information about a family -- like they're too poor to buy gifts.

Education about AIDS is simply a matter of biological *fact*.  We trust
teachers to give kids other facts -- about history, geography, math,
science.  Why is biology any different?  It has an ethical dimension to it,
naturally -- but nobody is stopping the parents from *adding* that
dimension to existing knowledge in the kid's head.

I think it's rubbish to suggest that giving kids facts about sex could
somehow "do damage".  This is a lame excuse to avoid upsetting *adults*. 
Kids don't fall over backwards (as some adults do) just because they're
given simple information.  The only thing that would cause a kid to get
upset is the *parents'* unhealthy negative reaction to the kid knowing.

Message: 80265
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: CARTER/AIDS
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 02:10:21

     I have yet to hear anyone say AIDS is unpreventable.  Including "homos
and druggies" as you so succulently put it.  Perhaps you're confusing
UNPREVENTABLE with INCURABLE?  Your crass attitude is disheartening to say
the least.    
    
You can't cure ignorance either.  It's lethal but kills much more slowly.

Message: 80266
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: ANN/AIDS
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 02:24:27

     Should the spread of AIDS be ignored merely because the media has
picked it as the "flavor of the month" for the time being?  Should we not
even discuss preventive measures in retaliation against media hype?  This
knee-jerk reaction to media hype is just as bad as swallowing the TV/paper
message hook, line and sinker.   
     Whether for or against "the message" the media obviously has its' claws
in you.
     I would have to agree with Nick that early research may give us more
bang for the buck.  Also, the HIV virus is an easily TRANSMITTED disease. 
Cancer isn't.  Logic tells us the HIV virus will therefore spread at a
quicker rate.  Finding a cure/vaccination is a matter of time we don't have.
      

Message: 80267
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: HELL IN A BASKET
Date: 12/04/91  Time: 02:42:40

I have it on good athority that AIDS stands for:

        ALLIED
        INDIGENT
        DISPOSAL
        SYSTEMS

Bless Jerry Falwell.