Apollo BBS Archive - December 13, 1991


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Mail from James Hawley
Date: 12/12/91  Time: 22:32:37

[A]bort, [N]ew only, [R]ead or [S]kip:Read

I was trying to figure out why they were so good.  Either you were 150%
stoned, or 150% unstoned.  Not sure which.
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Message: 8749
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Fred on aging
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 05:42:38

 I've been 39 for so long that 3 of my kids have caught up to me, and 2 have
 kept going! Darn, this is getting difficult!

Message: 8750
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Beau/imminent death
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 05:45:14

 The only thing imminent with me is a 2 hour clown performance at a
retirement community this evening. Then there's the two shows I have
tomorrow. I'll let the Sunday gigs take care of themselves for a little
while.

Message: 8751
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod on aging
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:50:31

Rod my god ... you keep saying that time does not exist but how come if it
does not, my face keeps getting these little lines..... and the old bones
are creaking ...... and the memory .....??? Huh? What was that again?
                          -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 8752
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Aging
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 12:51:58

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 1:It is only mass in motion, changing on a continuum.  A seventeen year old 
 2:boy goes off to war and three of our years later the boy has white hair and 
 3:lots of wrinkles.  The effect of motion, internal and external is in 
 4:porportion to change.  In order for the body to rejuvinate one would need a 
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Message: 8752
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Aging
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 12:51:58

It might help to express ones age in hexadecimal....

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Message: 8753
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Fred/Agehex
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 13:17:27

I started that at 40 decimal and became an instant 28. Now I am 35. It was
strange there for a while when I turned 42 (decimal) and had to tell people
I was 2A years old. 
 
Another alternative is to use French numbers. cinquante-trois doesn't sound
as bad as fifty-three.

Message: 8754
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann/lines
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 18:12:36

It is only mass in motion, changing on a continuum.  A seventeen year old
boy goes off to war and three of our years later the boy has white hair and
lots of wrinkles.  The effect of motion, internal and external is in
porportion to change.  In order for the body to rejuvinate one would need a
very leisure lifestyle and a lot of de-brainwashing.

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Message: 5242
Author: $ Melissa Dee
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Subject: Last
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:06:51

Wow.  Was that Rod?  It made sense, was very clear, brilliant!
Bravo, my man.

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Message: 5241
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Thief
Date: 12/12/91  Time: 21:08:42

More downtrodden people tend to steal.  More blacks are downtrodden
therefore more blacks steal.  It isn't because of one's color that makes
them a thief, it is more of their position in the social order.  

Those lowest on the pecking order exhibit different qualities than the
higher ones.  The higher oj%.H,X7 legally steal while the lower ones can
also but will go to jail if caught.

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a%vsAgX 80490
Author: $ Funky Alf
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: BBS Systems
Date: 12/12/91  Time: 23:23:15

Hi all, I'm just curious about the opinions the APOLLO folks have about
what I said to Cliff in Email, I thought the other users might want to
comment on it as well, so I decided to post it as a Public message.
 
I enjoy Apollo BBS and its debates on various subjects, I guess my real
question is, what keeps a BBS going for so long?
Don't the SysOps ever get tired of leaving their computers on 24 hours a
day, 7 days a week so the general public can call?
 
Merry Christmas to ALL Apollo users, by the way, does anyone else on
here use GEnie < On-Line service?  I use it and think it's a pretty
decent service, at least it's a lot less expensive than CompuServe.  I
liked Prodigy as well until they censored one of my messages I posted on
their ARTS club bulletin board.  Part of my E-Mail message to Cliff
follows below.
 
If I was running a BBS from my house/apartment, I couldn't keep it
up forever, I'd have to shut down sometime.  Do you EVER plan on
shutting down Apollo?  I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just
curious as to what keeps it going, the users keep it going I suppose.
Happy Holidays!!!!!  BCNU > Funky ALF

Message: 80491
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Fred/judgement
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 05:27:15

 I see no inherent conflict in your understanding of judgement at all,Fred.
Matter of fact, it makes a lot of sense. Judging others fairly is what GOd
is all about. Which brings us to the question of why, when God condemns some
certain action and calls it abominable, do the adherents or proponents of
that particular action cry "foul!" and consider the judgement unfair? After
all, God condemned the action long before they participated in it, so they
can't plead ignorance. God also pronounced judgement and punishment on those
who do those actions well in advance of their being done, so there can be no
mistake about that, either.
 To put it on a much simpler level, we all*K^=]"!Q"!IJM
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breaking posted speed limits. We also know that if we are caught breaking
that law, there is prescribed punishment to deal with. So, if we do break
the law, and are caught, who do we blame for our fines? Ourselves, (as we
should) or the law, or the cop who caught us?
 Now move that same principle up to the level of God's judgement and the
price we must pay for unrepented sin. Same thing, isn't it? Are we still not
responsible for our own actions, AND the results thereof?

Message: 80492
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: Funky Alf/last
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 05:41:00

 While I don't propose to answer for Cliff, it is my opinion that what keeps
Apollo up year after interesting year is the users. We have been blessed
with a most unusual group of regulars here; people who can, for the most
part, state widely divergent points of view on any number of topics and
still remain on friendly terms. Of course, as in all situations where people
intercommunicate, there are exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking,
I think that most of us log in day after day, week after week, etc. simply 
because we can't wait to see what's going to happen next.
 Personally, I access 4 BBSes on a pretty much daily basis, and Apollo is
by far the most interesting and the most diversified. Long live Apollo!
 In closing, thanks, Alf, for reminding us all that every now and then we
should all face north (or whatever direction is necessary) and give Cliff
Kolostow a wave of gratitude for putting up with us through thick and thin
for all these years. Thanks, Cliff!

Message: 80493
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last/Facing North
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 06:50:00

        Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-Wizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Guys...

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Message: 80494
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Doesn't make sense
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:48:50

BD> I'm sorry, but your explanation of how we can personally and
BD> individually owe for money received for goods and services received
BD> doesn't make sense.

I'm sorry, but that sentence doesn't make sense.  Except for the general
impression conveyed by it that what I said doesn't make sense.

In the interest of remaining pithy, as I promised, let us continue.  I think
someone else made an enlightened comment later which may help.  I know Dean
Hathaway did, but someone else did also.

For the nonce, suffice to say that once we produced wealth and used it to
buy things, which we then owned.  The wealth we produced could change form
(such as from labor to food to gold to land or vice-versa), but the wealth
was there, in our labor, for the producing.  Now we produce wealth and we
change its form from wealth to a promissory note.  Only instead of the buyer
of our wealth owing us the face amount of the promissory note in exchange
for our wealth, *we* owe the face amount of that promissory note to someone
else -- the foreign owners of the FED, aided and abetted by a totally,
criminally, corrupt government.

You're right.  It doesn't make sense.  And that is my point.  If it doesn't
make sense, and it is ripping us off, why are we putting up with it?

Message: 80495
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Land transfers
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:49:49

BD> Oh, and about not "owning" land -- when did land transfers become
BD> invalid?

The first time someone paid for a parcel of land in a medium of exchange
other than in a commodity of intrinsic value: either gold and silver coin or
convertible into gold and silver coin.  Ownership doesn't transfer unless
equal value changes hands in both directions.

BD> Should I be able to do a title search, find the last "legal"
BD> transaction on a piece of land, and therefor determine the "true
BD> current owner" -- 

Yes.  In many cases you will find the "true current owner" to be the
original recipient of the original land grant.

BD> -- or did the fact that the transfer was "paid" with paper money
BD> automatically make the owner be the federal reserve?

In a de facto, but nonetheless ultimately binding, sense, yes.

The above is my opinion based upon my research.  I do not give legal advice.

Message: 80496
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Soviet gold
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:50:31

BD> If they are sitting on so much gold, then why didn't the World Bank or
BD> some other minion of the New World Order demand it in turn for 'hard
BD> currency' ?

Payment in cash is the manner in which sovereigns and sovereign citizens
transact business; the payment of cash concludes the transaction.  They
didn't demand the gold because they don't want another sovereign country
with sovereign citizens; they want another borrower-servant like the U.S.

Message: 80497
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Dean Hathaway
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:51:03

RE: your messages #80368 and 80369.

Very accurate and very appropriate comments, and well said.

Message: 80498
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Beginning WWII
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:52:06

FS> At the beginning of WWII how many couples were living in 1800 SF
FS> houses, had two new cars, a boat, and took 3 week vacations every
FS> year??  How many couples back then were able to send their kids to
FS> college?  How many had elaborate stereo systems?  How many had summer
FS> cabins?

Definition:  In this and all previous and subsequent messages, I use the
word 'FED' in the same way economists use it, i.e., to mean 'Federal Reserve
Bank.'

At the beginning of WWII the health of our economy had already been
compromised for 28 years by the establishment of the foreign-owned FED in
1913, by a monumental Depression-with-a-capital-'D' following the
FED-engineered stock market crash of 1929 (which would not have happened
otherwise), and by the FED-engineered theft of half our Constitutional
monetary standard of gold and silver in 1934.  No, not too many couples had
two new cars, a boat, and took 3 week vacations every year, or were able to
send their kids to college, or had summer cabins.  (Elaborate stereo systems
had not yet been invented, but had they been, not too many people would have
had them, either.)

However, absent these economic problems caused by the FED, the answer would
have to be "Anyone who wanted to work to achieve these things."

Message: 80499
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Money vs. Wealth
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:53:33

FS> You are still confusing our medium of exchange with our wealth.

I am not.  Under a gold and silver standard, the medium of exchange equals
the wealth of the nation; the two are directly interchangeable and the
economy is stable enough to fight off several attempts by banksters to
destroy it, and a man's labor is his most valuable commodity.  Under the
current system, with no intrinsic value to the medium of exchange, the money
is worthless to the person who labors to earn it because he not only doesn't
own the wealth he buys with that money, he owes interest to the FED for
using their worthless paper script in the first place -- check that, we ALL
owe interest to the FED for using the worthless paper script in the first
place.  Therefore, for the wage-earner of today, the medium of exchange vs.
wealth equation is zero-sum-zero.  He works his tail off and the FED owns
both his wealth *and* his medium of exchange *and* his future labor to pay
the interest.

The cynical falsehood that the medium of exchange has no relationship to the
wealth is one of the fundamental lies promoted by the FED banksters for
their own profit.  You are beginning to sound as though you have a vested
interest in perpetuating their fraud.  Are you, perchance, a bankster?  Does
your livelihood depend upon usury, or upon perpetuating the oxymoronic myth
of "gainful employment" for the wage-earner?

Message: 80500
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Service economy?
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:54:35

FS> Right you are Green one.  The wealth of a nation is not in it's gold or
FS> silver that is rotting away in a vault.

Very true.  The wealth of a nation is in its gold and silver coin *in
circulation,* where the people who produce the wealth of the nation are paid
with it and become wealthy themselves, and cannot, therefore, be exploited
by autocratic elitists who want their skills and labor for just enough
pennies to keep them alive but hungry.

FS> It is in the things it can produce out of RAW MATERIALS.

Also true, which it produces less and less of as the producers of society --
the middle class -- get less and less remuneration for producing it, get
taxed more and more to pay for useless slugs in Congress and useless slugs
on the welfare rolls and useless slugs in the bankster financial cartel.

FS> We want to be a "service" society.

Don't include me when you say "we," and I think very few other people who
have the faintest notion of what supports our economy wants us to be a
"service" economy.  We are being forced into a service economy by our gov't
lackeys of the FED, who want our wealth and are taking it.

Message: 80501
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Land vs. Skills 1/2
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:55:44

FS> ... service industry stuff is essentially a parasitic activity that
FS> feeds off of the REAL PRODUCERS in the country.

Who ARE the "real producers" in the country, Fred?

FS> The man who owns LAND has real wealth.  The man who owns only his
FS> skills is only worth what he can shill himself for.

I am not the kind of BBS'er who types in the printed form of derisive
laughter (like 'heeheeheehoohoohaha!'), but that remark came awfully close
to causing me to do so.  That's rich!  Given the current fraudulent economic
system, you don't own any land, and what land you *think* you own but
actually only manage can be taken away from you at gov't's whim.  Land
doesn't make you wealthy.  Education and skills, on the other hand, cannot
be taken away from you, and given an honest monetary standard of intrinsic
value, can make you very wealthy -- as wealthy as any land baron.

If you own land under today's fraudulent economic system, particularly if
you own commercial land, you don't own wealth, you own debt.  You may enjoy
the illusion and perhaps the trappings of power and wealth, but if land is
all you have and you look down your nose at the working man and his
sovereign ownership of skills (as I am coming to believe that you do) then
you are indeed the enemy of liberty and I doubt you even understand the

Message: 80502
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Land vs. Skills 2/2
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:56:29

meaning of the word 'liberty' or the word 'principle.'  You obviously only
understand the word 'profit.'

That may define our inability to come to a consensus of opinion on the
subject.  The conversion of skills into wealth is not profit; it is "fair
exchange."  It is not, under our Constitution, taxable, and that makes the
working man more powerful and potentially more wealthy than any commercial
robber baron.  That's why land barons, politicians, and other 'profit
shills' hate the working man with a vengeance and use every dirty trick and
political Ponzi Scheme available to subvert him into another profit shill
just like themselves.

Message: 80503
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Taxes *poof*
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:57:43

BD> Want to stop paying taxes on land, Cliff?  Convince enough voters in
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BD> county taxes on land.

Bet me.  The people of California tried something very similar to that; they
passed an initiative requiring no increases in property taxes except upon
the purchase of the property by a new owner.  At least part of the purpose,
besides putting a cap on property taxes, was to put a cap on the bloated
bureaucracy running roughshod over the people's rights.  So what happened? 
Well, none of the useless bureaucracy was cut in the slightest; the only
budget items cut were in the realm of 'essential services' -- i.e., fire,
police, medical.  This in spite of, in direct violation of, the clear
wording of the new law.  The backers of the new law went to court to force
the state to comply and they ran out of money before the state did.  End of
story.

Message: 80504
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: We, the People
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 07:59:16

BD> --- do you really mean "we" as in "we the people" ?  Not individually,
BD> but in thgf9M"!QzUI:=YI959Q:%11BY"=e1
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BD> of course, we'll have to bail it out (or go to war) ????

Aha!  YOU are the one who asked the enlightened question!  Of course that is
what I mean.  I thought that was clear, but perhaps not.

Also, I have tried to consistently use the term 'frn' when I mean 'federal
reserve note' and 'dollar' when I mean 25.8 grains of gold .9 fine or 371.25
grains of silver .9 fine.  Perhaps the confusion arose because you didn't
yet understand the difference.  You might want to note the first and most
obvious sign of fraud on a frn: the fact that it calls itself, it is labeled
as, right on the bill, a "dollar" -- when in fact a "dollar" is defined by
law as the above weights of gold or silver at the above fineness, and you
cannot exchange (redeem) a frn for a dollar (even though the Gold Reserve
Act of 1934 specifically exempts currency from its provisions).

As a second indication of fraud, you might note that at the time the Gold
Reserve Act of 1934 was passed, you could still exchange a 'frn' for a
'dollar' on the street -- they were worth approximately the same.  Try to do
that today and see how far you get.

Message: 80505
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Sorry, Arch
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:02:51

Well, Archimedes, after several months of listening to and studying your
posts, I have to confess I'm no closer to having faith in the conspiracy
theories you propose than I was.
 
I don't doubt that you've spent an awful lot of time in research and are,
yourself, truly convinced of the truth of the allegations you make, but they
just don't hold water for me.  As for the documentation contained in
"America ... Occupied!," it, too, leaves me cold.  "Occupied!" spends a
great deal of time documenting many minor points which lead to a "so you can
easily see" statement of conclusion which, in fact, requires a great leap of
faith to see.
 
I don't, however, consider the matter closed.  You may well one day expose
that one piece of the puzzle that makes your whole theory fall into place
for me.  Until then, though, sorry.

Message: 80506
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Arch-Inflation
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:03:13

BB> Our money would have been devalued only if we had more, but were paying
BB> the same amount, which is exactly what you seem to be advocating.
 
A> On the contrary, our money is 'devalued' when it is worth less
A> than previously.  That situation occurs when we have less for
A> paying the same amount.
 
Of course you're right.  I must have been drain bamaged that day.  I'd still
contend, though, that we're paying more AND getting more.  Whether we're
getting ENOUGH more to justify the greater amounts we're paying is, I think,
a subjective matter.

Message: 80507
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Answer!
Subject: Great Apollo
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:03:44

> ...what keeps a BBS going for so long?
 
I hate to admit it -- and I mean REALLY HATE -- but I agree with Paul's
message on every count.  It's the users and the SysOp.
 
And, to emphasize in my own brown-nosing way, it's very easy to overlook the
SysOp's impact.  In my time as Cub SysOp, I've discovered that Cliff *really
does* agonize over Apollo at times.  The conflict between freedom of
expression and what should be allowed is one he gives a great deal of
thought and care to.  The balance is struck pretty well, IMHO.

Message: 80508
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Rod Williams 1/5
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:16:19

RW> In any case everyone is  part of a system of some kind.  It is always a
RW> bonus when the system you are living in is fair and equitable.  But it
RW> is not always that way.  There are 'shades' of democracies, monarchies,
RW> and the like.  Some are better than others but none are perfect.

The general sense I get of this paragraph is that you feel totally helpless
and without any authority over the kind of system you are living in.  This
is pure B.S.  You have been handed, virtually on a (gold and) silver
platter, a system of gov't like no other in the history of the world, one in
which *you* do have the authority to change the system when the system steps
outside the boundaries prescribed for it by the founding fathers, aka the
framers of the U.S. Constitution.  Unlike other gov't's, our gov't does not
rule under the principle of the "divine right of kings to govern."  It has
come to believe that it does, but it is wrong, and when it acts upon that
wrong belief it is unlawful regardless of what mealy-mouthed laws it has
pretended to pass which purport to 'authorize' its actions.

However, this precious and yes, sacred, liberty you and I and other
Americans have been given comes with an equally precious and sacred
responsibility:  when the government We, the People created, and to which
We, the People gave certain sharply limited powers, steps over that
Constitutional line of authority and engages in activities which are not
authorized by the Constitution of the United States, We, the People have

Message: 80509
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Road Williams 2/5
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:17:34

the sacred responsibility of stopping it.  No one else will do it for us. 
No one will even help us.

I will say to you as Samuel Davis said to those wimps opposing the
Declaration of Independence on the same issues you raise, i.e., the
'inconvenience' of conflict; the fact that many of them "couldn't afford" to
defend their inherited and unalienable rights:

     "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of
      servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go
      home from us in peace.  We seek not your counsels or arms.
      Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.  May your
      chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget ye
      were our countrymen."  -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

This is not to minimize the cost of the conflict, but only to point out that
freedom is never free.  "The tree of liberty must be nourished from time to
time with the blood of patriots."  (That's a quote I *think* is by Thomas
Jefferson, but I'm not positive.)  Many patriots gave their lives in defense
of liberty, and some have given their lives today in that same endeavour
against the same forces of tyranny and oppression.  Yet, sadly, many
thought, during the American Revolution, and still think today, that their
cash registers were more important than liberty.

Message: 80510
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Road Williams 3/5
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:18:31

I am trying to not be too disparaging of your concerns over the cost of
standing up for your rights -- the rights of us all -- but you can probably
tell what I think of the comparative value of those concerns even though I
share them, deal with them daily, *pay* for them daily in agonizing worry
over the balance I try to strike between my responsibility to my family and
my responsibility to the liberty of our nation.

Freedom Fighting is not a lucrative enterprise; if it becomes so you are not
fighting for freedom, you a fighting for a profit.  Not only that, but if
you find a way to fight for freedom *and* make money by doing so, you will
be assaulted, arrested, portrayed as a slimy criminal money launderer or
some such in the press (even though the act of 'laundering' money
legitimately acquired is one of our fundamental liberties), and you will be
tried and convicted and incarcerated on trumped-up charges and forgotten
about except, perhaps, by those closest to you.  Sometimes even they will
abandon you.

What are you supposed to do?  I don't know.  I can't lay out a script for
you and I wouldn't if I could.  Your destiny is in your hands.  You will be
accountable for what you do or fail to do, I believe, on a higher level than
anything anyone can do to you here.  But I do know that regardless of cost,
you *can* do *something.*

Message: 80511
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Rod Williams 4/5
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:19:47

But only if you get off of this feeling-sorry-for-yourself I-don't-like-it-
here I'm-a-gonna-commit-hari-kiri-as-soon-as-I-can binge and start dealing
with the real world instead of running from it and trying to make everyone
feel they have to be careful in talking to you, for if they say the wrong
thing they could be responsible for your physical demise.  This, too, is
pure, unadulterated B.S. -- worse, it is manipulative.

You can probably tell I'm not a psychologist.  I don't pretend to be.  But
every message I've read from you sounds like a backhanded approach to a
suicide note, with a whole lot of self-aggrandizing trappings to rationalize
your obsession to take the cowardly way out into some kind of
higher-level-sounding pseudo-spiritual catharsis, to make yourself sound
like an imprisoned angel.  It doesn't wash with me.

Look, if you are that depressed, go see a doctor.  Depression is an
extremely common malady among people and most of the time it is caused by a
simple chemical imbalance and is completely correctable with mild
medication.  It is my understanding that the more severe the depression, the
stronger the thoughts of escaping this mortal coil, the easier it is to
treat.  It is *not* a moral weakness, nor is it really even a mental
disease.

Message: 80512
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Rod Williams 5/5
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:20:33

Once you've done something about that problem, *then* come back and talk to
me about what steps you can take to help, if you still want to help.  As
things are now, you wouldn't survive, and your death would not have any
"purpose" as you put it.  We don't need kamikaze squads; we need
level-headed determined non-violent freedom fighters with the strength of
their convictions and the patience and resolve to see it through.

Message: 80513
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Threat to N.W.O.
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:21:49

GL> Following the huge vote for independence in Ukraine, Mikhail Gorbachev
GL> on Soviet television bemoaned the possible effects of "disintegration
GL> of the country" -- citing in particular "a threat to the new world
GL> order".

GL> So, is this another reason to cheer the citizens of Ukraine?

I think the citizens of the Ukraine should be cheered, but not for that
reason.  More likely, "a threat to the new world order" means "a threat to
Gorbachev's leadership of the new world order."

I am heartened to see some political resistance to the new world order going
on in Britain -- the same stuff that caused Margaret Thatcher to topple. 
However, I am not heartened too much: perhaps I am cynical, but I've seen
this sort of thing appear to get knocked back and then suddenly,
inexplicably, it's 'in' -- too many times to hold out much hope for this go
'round.

Message: 80514
Author: $ Archi Medes
Category: Politics
Subject: Counterfeiting
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 08:25:09

GL> Silver, being a little less dense than lead (10.5), is a different
GL> matter.  I'd think silver coins could be faked both practically and
GL> profitably.

Not nearly as easily or as profitably as with the fraudulent frns.  And I
haven't wanted to get into the discussions here about ease of counterfeiting
either gold or silver coin, but with the exception of what you (Gordon
Little) said about the difficulty and expense of counterfeiting gold coins,
which was accurate, nothing else said here indicates the slightest
*practical* knowledge of metallurgy or the incredible ease with which a
counterfeit or even 'shaved' gold or silver coin may be detected.

GL> Knowing the Eureka anecdote, and with the topic of density weighing
GL> heavily on my mind, I wonder if this tale is what made Archimedes
GL> choose his handle.

No, it isn't.

Message: 80515
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/God
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 09:16:00

I see no God here.

Message: 80516
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Arch/Barter
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 10:43:01

DO you *really* think a barter economy is workable on any sort of large
scale??  Even primitive tribes evolved the use of money when they achieved
any sort of "size" as barter is simply not a workable system for "normal"
business purposes on any wide scale.

Message: 80517
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: ARch/Eyeballs
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 10:50:24

Don't you have eyes???  Is it that hard for you to see the difference
between the living standards of the time of the "gold" standard compared to
today??  Are you seriouly suggesting that in the late 1800's and early
1900"s when there was no such thing as rapid, countrywide travel, decent
houseing, many many jobs at the level of sweatshop, limited medical care,
limited educational opportunities, and on and on, that you can't see that
the standard of living OFF the gold standard has gone up more or less
steadily, indicating that MORE of us share in the TOTAL wealth of the
nation.  (sorry for the convoluted sentence).  In a nutshell, you don't need
to look at "documentation" to see what is obvious to the unaided eye.  Our
living standard NOW is far better then it was THEN (gold standard days). 
The fact that a 1910 25 cent haircut now cost $13.00 is immaterial - our
income has gone up a compensating amount.

Message: 80518
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: arch/fortunes
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 10:58:23

Perhaps you can explain how a wealthy man has to put gold into circulation
if his Wealth is a big apartment building and he collects rent from the
tenents every month sufficent to pay for all he needs?  As long as he owns
the apt he has a steady stream of income (whether it is gold, or paper
money) to spend on whatever he wants.  He stays "wealthy" no matter what
since his "wealth" is not only of intrinsic value but also produces an
income stream.

Message: 80519
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: ROD/Judgement
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 11:01:24

Thanks Rod, for the Bible Quote.  Makes my suggested interpetation seem
fairly reasonable IMHO.

Message: 80520
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/Judgement
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 11:11:17

What you say is exactly right (message 80491).  The thing you left out
though is that while most all of us (Archimedes excepted) "believe" in the
"rule book" for speed limits, a great many of us do not believe in YOUR rule
book(bible) as the *final* word on what's acceptable and whatq9[	$U4at
doesn't make the bible *wrong*, it just makes it inapplicable for a great
many of us.  And to use your example, the analogy would be that very few of
us choose to follow the BRITISH rule book on driving even though it is a
perfecty fine rule book - we just don't think it is applicable to us.
  SInce many of us don't believe your particular religion, why would we
accept judgments based on the rule book of your religion?  
 But we have drifted off the original subject a tad.  The original bone of
contention was simply that you appeared to be claiming the you judged no
one, that only God did.  Yet you expessed a number of opinons that to me
indicated that you did, in fact, make many judgements about others on the
basis of what you thought god had said about it IN THE PAST (again, for
purposes of this discussin I will accept the bible in total).
  Do you still feel that you are NOT forming judgments about others??

Message: 80521
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Arch
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 11:24:49

You STILL can't seem to understand what the average person is using FRNs
for.  I don't know of anyone who is stashing FRNs under their mattress in
the deluded belief that they are putting something valuble under there.   I
also don't understand why you persist in the notion that we are all somehow
FORCED to use FRNs and thereby screwed.  In todays USA it is EVERY easy to
use virtually NO FRNs - you can pay everything by check or charge card
thereby completely eliminating all connection with FRNs.  Instead of
stuffing FRNs under the mattress you just let you electronic *money*
accumulate in the bank on their ledgers.
   The only part of what you are saying that makes any sense to me is that
in addition to the use of FRNs as a medium of exchange the QUANTITY of FRNs
can eK[X7ipulated to some degree making individual one more or less
valuble.  But it is really the TOTAL money supply that is being manipulated,
not jsut the FRNs in circulation. 
  And to look at it from another standpoint, wouldn't it be EASIER for
people to just forget about FRNs having ANY intrinsic value then to try and
use GOLD COINS which would be an impossible situation.  As far as I can see,
the only way your system could really work would be for GOLD coins to be THE
units of exchange and for the gvt to be completely disconnected with any
valuatin placed on them.  If you allow the gvt to involve itself in setting
the value of GOLD then you have not really changed much of anything.  Again,
you entire argument revolves around somehow FORCING the gvt to do something
and preventing them from ever UNDOING it.  IN reagard to a GOLD standard,
even that would only work if we were isolationists.

Message: 80522
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Arch/Wealth
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 11:35:01

I'd like to see you feed cattle with your "knowledge" or sleep inside your
"skills" or cross a creek with your "education" instead of a bridge.   It
seems that you get fa{ther and farther removed from reality with your
theories.
  If one were to judge which people have the most accurate understanding of
how our economy works on the basis of "who's got the most" it would seem to
me that the peoplm xou seem to think are the ones who DON"T understand
things are the ones who rather obviously DO understand things.  Not
directing this at you personally, you may be fabulously wealthy for all I
know, but from what I've seen of people who tend to express views similar to
yours, they tend to not be among the economically elite.  That is not a
condemnation of their ideas but it indicates to me that they are NOT able to
understand how things are REALLY working around them.  AN alternate view,
and one that might be equally valid, is that they DO understand buy choose
to tilt at windmills anyways instead of acquiring some wealth and gaining a
position of power in order to actaully CHANGE the system.

s

Message: 80523
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Fred/Wealth
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 13:20:36

Perhaps it would be better to normalize standard-of-living to hours of work
required to purchase. Obviously,  it is meaningless to talk about PC's,
Televisions, and other modern conveniences when comparing 19th century
standard of living with a modern standard of living, but one might look at
how much a pair of pants cost etc....

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 1:I{'ll read your answer off-line and get back.  I scanned the messages and I 

 2:get the impression that you think I am being negative about life in general.
 3: This is not so.  I have a positive attitude about life and about death.  
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 7:I am raising eight children, or at this time, six, because two are married. 
 8:I run a business and my outlook and reflection is positive.
 9:
10:I visualize beyond earth life even though I am not positive what is there 
11:although I do know that whatever it is must be answerable because something 
12:does happen.
13:
14:When I started out in life on my own and with Jasmine I was, and still am, 
15:determined to make everything go smoothly.  I meet people from time to time 
16:that say things like, "the way my luck goes, everything will mess up."  Not 
17:me.  I say and think the opposite because when one has a family depending on
18:them, that is the only way to think.  I just wanted to let you know that 
19:what you read or have ever read in one of my messages is with a positive 
20:slant.  Nothing is wrong with death or dying.  Never, never take FUN out of f

21:funeral.  That's it dude.     Rod
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Message: 80524
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Archemedes
Date: 12/13/91  Time: 18:27:34

I'll read your answer off-line and get back.  I scanned the messages and I
get the impression that you think I am being negative about life in general.
 This is not so.  I have a positive attitude about life and about death. 
When I speak of deeath and dying, I am looking solely at reality, a good
reality at that.

I am raising eight children, or at this time, six, because two are married. 
I run a business and my outlook and reflection is positive.

I visualize beyond earth life even though I am not positive what is there
although I do know that whatever it is must be answerable because something
does happen.

When I started out in life on my own and with Jasmine I was, and still am,
determined to make everything go smoothly.  I meet people from time to time
that say things like, "the way my luck goes, everything will mess up."  Not
me.  I say and think the opposite because when one has a family depending on
them, that is the only way to think.  I just wanted to let you know that
what you read or have ever read in one of my messages is with a positive
slant.  Nothing is wrong with death or dying.  Nev, never take FUN out of
funeral.  That's it dude.     Rod

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11:although I do know that whatever it is must be answerable because something
12:does happen.
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14:When I started out in life on my own and with Jasmine I was, and still am,
15:determined to make everything go smoothly.  I meet people from time to time
16:that say things like, "the way my luck goes, everything will mess up."  Not
17:me.  I say and think the opposite because when one has a family depending on
18:them, that is the only way to think.  I just wanted to let you know that
19:what you read or have ever read in one of my messages is with a positive
20:slant.  Nothing is wrong with death or dying.  Nev, never take FUN out of
21:funeral.  That's it dude.     Rod

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Message: 49
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Journey
Subject: Why?
Date: 08/04/91  Time: 02:38:08

Trying to figure out the Twilight Zone?  But that's the whole point!  You're
NOT supposed to!
 
 
FREE PEE-WEE HERMAN!
 

Message: 50
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Macabre
Subject: Pee-Wee News
Date: 08/04/91  Time: 13:02:20

    I hear that there is a new Pee-Wee dance on the horizon for 1991.
 
    It's done to the tune of "I Touch Myself."
 
 
noosniagagnimocsisusejlllllllllllllyraD

Message: 51
Author: $ Steve MacGregor
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Pee-Wee?
Date: 08/13/91  Time: 16:43:41

   FRY PEE-WEE HERMAN!

  We all live in a   ....,,,,________nnhn____   yellow subroutine

Message: 52
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Dimension
Subject: this place
Date: 08/22/91  Time: 04:18:04

This is only my second visit to the Twilight Zone, and I find myself
wondering if there are other Sigs that pop up even less frequently.

Message: 53
Author: $ Thad Coons
Category: Dimension
Subject: I don't know
Date: 08/26/91  Time: 22:20:16

how I got here, either, this is my first time.
 So, since I have trouble thinking of anything Bizarre (except my own way of
thinking), Imaginative (except daydreams), Macabre (except my life if I
don't figure out how to satisfy the Powers That Be), or any interesting
Sights or Sounds (except
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!)
And since I don't know enough mathematics to even discuss N dimensions
properly, I think I will attempt to [J]ourney elswhere for the evening....
*Poof*

Message: 54
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Bizarre
Subject: This sig. huh?
Date: 08/29/91  Time: 17:28:32

Where am I? Where's Rod? Not Rod my God, but Serling! Oh! He's dead?
 
What's that I smell? Oh! It's just Mike with that dead dog again! Gimmie
five Rod mah man!!! That is by far the best advice I ever heard! 
 
                            -=* BARBIE *=-

Message: 55
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Imagination
Subject: Laws
Date: 08/31/91  Time: 23:22:52

There are laws governing when you get into the Twilight Zone and when you
don't.

They are very complicated.

They take years to figure out.

When you do figure them out, and post them on here in EXACTLY the right
syntax (which you have to guess at, they don't give you any clues), a
special procedure is invoked.

First, a little dot appears in the center of your screen.  It grows larger
and larger, revealing itself as a HUGE image of Rod Serling.

Then your computer blows up, and you with it.

Message: 56
Author: $ Don Hicks
Category: Imagination
Subject: What the...
Date: 09/01/91  Time: 01:22:52

Yo Homey, I don't think we in Kansas no mo!
  
   
 Reality... I don't think so! (tm)

Message: 57
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Journey
Subject: Me again
Date: 09/07/91  Time: 21:05:56

My first visit was in October 1990, the second was May 1991. Since then it's
been every 4-5 weeks.
 
Caller # 163726 (26 today)
It is now 09/07/91  21:01:27
Last on @ 09/05/91  19:18:02
Last message read was  (77991)
Message range is (77779-78030)
You have logged in 1806 times
*=* You have 2 letters *=*
 

Message: 58
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Sight & Sound
Subject: read,read,read,read
Date: 09/07/91  Time: 21:32:54

        You
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
                are
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
                        in
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
                                the
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
                                        Twilight Zone
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
                                                fool!
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest

        (Burp)

Message: 59
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Dimension
Subject: Wow
Date: 09/11/91  Time: 20:52:28

Cliffy got a new toy!
 
Caller # 163835 (24 today)
It is now 09/11/91  20:45:58
You have been on 00:10
Message range is (77816-78068)
The SYSOP is out
Shields 10 %
 
Does this mean anything?  
What does it all mean?
Who are you?
Are we areselves?
 
I'm getting dizzy...

Message: 60
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Serling
Date: 09/13/91  Time: 10:58:05

  I just watched 'Seven Days In May' yesterday, and I remember being
surprised that Rod Serling was in the credits. He was either the director,
or wrote the screenplay, I forget which.
  There must be a connection between my watching that film and landing here.
  See You later,
    Dean H.

Message: 61
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Who knows?
Date: 09/14/91  Time: 05:56:40

 WHere am I? Who am I? Why am I here? Why am I anywhere? Who cares?
 Golly, it's sure dark in here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 I think I am goin around in circles! Well, at least, I think. WEll, I think
I think.
 Hmmmmmmmmm. THat last one puts me in good company.
 Until the next time........................adios.

Message: 62
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Journey
Subject: Canada?
Date: 10/04/91  Time: 00:24:34

Anyone know anything about Lake Louise, Alberta Canada?  All I know at the
moment was that it is going to be cold.  I'll tell you all about it when I
get back.

Message: 63
Author: $ Paul Carelli
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Well...
Date: 10/06/91  Time: 12:41:13

   This is my first visit here.  I didn't even know the place existed.  At
first I thought it was a penalty for logging on a second time.  I wonder if
that could be the trigger?

Message: 64
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Disconnected
Date: 10/06/91  Time: 14:46:08

        You have reached 246-1432, however it has been disconnected and you
are here all alone.  The rest of the Apollo users have journeyed off on the
NCC-1705 U.S.S. Yorktown in search of adventure.  You are now trapped inside
a disconnected number.  beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep.......

[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest

        Don't believe me hey...  Just hit the [O]ther members CMD

                -filc->  *=* pOsyS ollopA 'ythgiM' eht *=*

Message: 65
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Macabre
Subject: info, etc.
Date: 10/08/91  Time: 22:10:31

Caller # 164579 (23 today)
It is now 10/08/91  22:02:55
Last on @ 10/08/91  19:59:42
Last message read was  (78798)
Message range is (78530-78804)
You have logged in 1848 times

 
I just love it that Apollo is still version 6.0 after the Twilight Zone gets
added, and this Skip/Rest thing, too.

Message: 66
Author: $ Rod Serling
Category: Bizarre
Subject: gniht tseR/pikS
Date: 10/09/91  Time: 22:31:52

llet ton tsum uoy tub ,esu ot sruoy si DMC [ESUAP] evisule ehT
 tisiv yeht nehw terces sti nrael lliw uoy sa yehT  .ti esu ot woh no srehto
                                                          .enoZ thgilIWT eht

           :retne ,liam ni ro tsop a ni DMC [ESUAP] eht esu oT
                                                                     [ESUAP]
 drow eht esacne ot erus eB  .evoba sa flesti yb lla enil a no
          .nwohs sa slobmys 'naht-retaerg' dna 'naht-ssel' eht neewteb ESUAP

                                  .S.R
                                .llet ohw esoht ot enoZ motnahP   .S.P

Message: 68
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Paul Carelli
Date: 10/12/91  Time: 01:39:32

Maybe logging in a second time in a row affects the odds of winding up here,
it just happened to me too.
 

Message: 69
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Imagination
Subject: Learning experience
Date: 10/13/91  Time: 22:23:31

I've been here four or five times at least.  It's getting to be less bizarre
now, more like home even?  And at last I've learned something useful.  What
do you suppose that is?
 
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
 
Why, how to put these Read and Skip questions into a post, of course!

(That's assuming Rod Serling's post wasn't a hoax!)

So now those of us who have been here can guess that when somebody uses the
PAUSE command on another SIG, they've been here too.  But those of us who
haven't, won't guess.  Secret Club, anybody?

Message: 71
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Macabre
Subject: Number of the Beast
Date: 10/29/91  Time: 23:53:08

Yesterday I logged in to Apollo and I got this:

     Caller # 165121 (12 today)
     It is now 10/28/91  12:17:58
     Last on @ 10/27/91  22:48:49
     Last message read was  (79353)
     Message range is (79120-79373)
     You have logged in 666 times

So, am I becoming more demonic, more beastly, or what?

This is amazing, though.  I posted the LAST message on this SIG, and it was
only 16 days ago.  We were just talking about frequency of access at the GT
on the 20th.  I seem to be getting into this little hell more frequently
than ever.  Could that 666 have something to do with it?

I'm seeing stars...     *     *           *
                     *      *     * *          *
                      *  *       *      *       *
                       *      *     **       *        GOODNIGHT, ALL!

"Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out."

     - Arthur C. Clarke, *The Nine Billion Names of God*, New York, May 1952

Message: 72
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Journey
Subject: Prophetic...
Date: 10/30/91  Time: 16:11:48

I am entering the Twilight Zone.  
I am getting married.
Marriage is the Twilight Zone?

Message: 73
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Dimension
Subject: Why is there air.
Date: 10/31/91  Time: 16:12:41

There is hair to keep your head warm and to keep your armpits warm and to
keep some other things warm.  WIthout hair we would all look like the
coneheads.
Opps, that was air wasn't it.  There is air to keep your hair warm.  Without
air we would all look like those folks on ST:TNG who let all the air out of
the cargo hold to jettison the cargo and douse the fire.  Yes indeed, we all
need air.  Maybe more then we need hair.  On the other hand, Capt Kirk wears
a toupe so maybe for some people hair is as important as air.  After all, he
gets his air free but has to pay for the hair.  conversely, we pay people to
cut our hair which would indicate that it is possible to have too muchof a
good thing.  Then there is the connection between hair and air dryers.  If
you get hair in your dryer it really stinks.  I bet that happens to Michael
James a lot, eh Mikey???  
   But I digest.  I really don't know why there is air or hair. 
Numerologically speaking though, hair has a higher total number then air
does.  So that must mean something.  Probably means that George Bush
secretly lusts after Barbara Walters.  I wish I knew.
   

Message: 74
Author: $ Paul Carelli
Category: Journey
Subject: Twice
Date: 11/14/91  Time: 17:40:23

  I've been on here twice now and I still have not figured it out.  I did
type my log-on stuff very fast.  I wonder if that could have anything to do
with it?

Message: 75
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Sight & Sound
Subject: Frederick
Date: 11/21/91  Time: 11:07:02

I don't usually use a hair or air dryer, but the shower drain gets clogged
up a lot and THAT stinks when you put Drano in it.

Message: 76
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Journey
Subject: getting here
Date: 11/23/91  Time: 06:00:00

Try this.  You must not deviate from these directions.

First, obtain a quantity of helium.  During the login process, inhale the
helium, and recite (loudly) --- "I'm the Sysop (sigh-sop) and you've lost
your status!"

Rapidly spin counter-clockwise four times in your chair while yelling --- 
"Mitchy Moo Moo, you've crashed the system (sigh-stem)!"

This will definitely get you into the [TWI]light Zone.  Hey, it might even
get me into the [PHA]ntom Zone!

Message: 77
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Imagination
Subject: Gordon/names
Date: 11/23/91  Time: 12:41:32

Why did you give away *the end* of the story?
 
 
(for the record books:)
Caller # 165824 (16 today)
It is now 11/23/91  12:36:59
Last on @ 11/21/91  19:59:37
Last message read was  (79915)
Message range is (79691-79947)
You have logged in 1890 times
*=* You have 1 letter *=*

Message: 78
Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Journey
Subject: How did I get here
Date: 11/27/91  Time: 01:47:01

This is my first time that I can remember have access to this SIG. I think
it has something to do with how many messages you post in a given amount of
time. I say that because lately I have been posting more messages than I
ever did before. And all the people I seen here are the ones who regularly
post messages on this system.
 
                        <<< Joe >>>

Message: 79
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Sight & Sound
Subject: Well
Date: 12/02/91  Time: 15:17:06

this is the  second time I"ve fallen into this area.   Joe may be right, it
may have to do with the number of postings.  It must also require $tatus, I
don't think I've seen any non-$tatus users in here.  Perhaps this is a
computers version of an out of body experiance??  OOCE?
        .
      ..  . .....
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   .  .. . ...... .. .
 . .. ..... . . ... 
. . . .. .. .. ... . . ... ..
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 do DO do do      do DO do do

Message: 80
Author: $ Funky Alf
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Twi-Zone
Date: 12/05/91  Time: 00:10:46

I like the old B & W episodes of the TwiLight-Zone, I just saw a Marathon of
"Outer Limits" shows on TNT the other night....Cool....
ALF
What the above has to do with being in this SIG, I don't know.
Just something to post...post...post... anything!!!
Beam me down, O'Brian!!! 
Off to Melmac I go!!!

Message: 81
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Bizarre
Subject: The Zone
Date: 12/05/91  Time: 06:00:09

 Well, here I am again! Have no idea how or why, but it is kind of fun, in a
weird sort of way. I just wish that my brain was more awake so that I could
find something to say. While I'm here, I think I'll try that
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
special feature and see how it works. Until next time, then...........

Message: 82
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Imagination
Subject: Beau/names
Date: 12/05/91  Time: 15:38:03

I don't remember.  What story?

Here today, gone tomorrow...

Message: 83
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Dimension
Subject: Misc
Date: 12/05/91  Time: 22:01:04

  I landed here on my second login tonight, but I haven't posted anything
for a week or so.
  I better try it here
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
   so I don't put a botched attempt in a public message.
  See You Later,
    Dean H.
p.s.
[R]ead rest or [S]kip rest:Read rest
  I used Apollo for years without ever ending up here, but now seem to get
it fairly often. Is that because it didn't exist before or what?

Message: 84
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Dimension
Subject: TV Show
Date: 12/05/91  Time: 22:10:30

  I saw a pretty good episode of the new Twilight Zone TV show last night.
An historian from the future who was a distant decendant of JFK was sent
back in time to record the assassination with a 3d hologram recorder
disguised as an 8mm home movie camera. At the moment of truth he broke down
and yelled out to the President to duck, thereby saving his life, but
screwing up history from that moment forward with horrible results.
  There is a rather neat scene where Kennedy is looking at a 1964 Kennedy
half dollar which the historian had always carried with him as a treasured
family momento, until he dropped it and a secret service man picked it up.
Kennedy, who has already learned that the historian is from the future
because of the hologram device, suddenly realizes what it must mean for him
to be on a coin issued the NEXT year.
  See You Later,
    Dean H.
e9

Message: 85
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Bizarre
Subject: Good Morning
Date: 12/10/91  Time: 07:19:52

It is pretty strange for me to be on Apollo this early, but then to wind up
in here as well?!
The dog wants in...better go oblige
Cat wants food...he can wait
Beau is barking too...better let him in.

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