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Date: 12/01/91 Time: 10:12:09
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Hi Rod
Just getting around to your letter you sent me about making lock
smith tools. The type you mention are stamped out. My equipment does not
machine 'sheet-metal' so to say. It would take me so long to make a simple
pick, I would have to sell it for $50.00... I wish I had a press with dies
to make such tools... Thanks for the suggestion anyways.
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1:Well perhaps there are profitable parts that you can make with the equipment
2:that you have. I will do a brain scan over the next few weeks and see if I
3:can think of something. Is business still slow?
AIDS just won't go away. And neither will our children. Is education the
way to make sure the twain never meet?
[A] I wish the media would just shut up about AIDS! It's an
adult matter and our kids shouldn't be burdened with it.
[B] I think the media's doing a pretty good job in educating the
public, including children, about AIDS.
[C] The media isn't doing nearly enough. Our children are our
future and it's much better to tell them early about AIDS
than to wait until it's too late.
[D] The media is over reacting with hyped facts and figures
But, our kids should be told without frightening them.
It is 'mostly' a shared drug needle and gay disease.
[E] I just don't care one way or the other.
How do you vote [A-E] or [CR] to abort:$
Poll results to date:
[A] 0 [B] 5 [C] 2 [D] 7 [E] 0
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Message: 8716
Author: $ Gordon Little
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod/last
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 14:38:08
I wouldn't say the double Whopper with cheese is right at the top of my
list of foods not to be missed. But "if it tastes delicious" -- whatever
"it" happens to be -- I always find that an excellent reason to eat it. And
I never suffer any dreadful aftereffects, unless you count my weight
creeping up by a few grams. And that can always be solved by rationing.
Rod, do you suppose you have an actual allergy to milk proteins, or milk
fats? Seems to me some people lack the enzyme necessary to process them,
just as some people lack the enzyme necessary to digest wheat.
Message: 8717
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: Shoot-out
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 15:04:31
Not likely I or Sandy can make it. I just can't afford the ammo!
Message: 8718
Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Bill / F A T
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 05:45:13
RE: One thing I don't understand, however, is determining how much fat is
"okay."
The recomened(sp) amount is less than 30% of your total calorie(sp) intake
per day should come from fat. One gram of fat equals nine calories. So in
your example a product has 100 calories per serving and has 8 grams of fat
per serving, that means that it has 72% of the calories coming from fat.
(9 * 8 / 100 = .72 or 72 %) This is extremly(sp) high in fat, pass it up.
<<< Joe >>>
Message: 8719
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: Shootin' Cliff
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 08:54:16
> Not likely I or Sandy can make it. I just can't afford the
> ammo!
Oh, come on out with us, Cliff. I'm sure some of us can lend you some ammo.
Message: 8720
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Joe-Really F A T
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 08:54:39
> The recomened(sp) amount is less than 30% of your total
> calorie(sp) intake per day should come from fat. One gram of
> fat equals nine calories. So in your example a product has 100
> calories per serving and has 8 grams of fat per serving, that
> means that it has 72% of the calories coming from fat. (9 * 8 /
> 100 = .72 or 72 %) This is extremly(sp) high in fat, pass it
> up.
So the general formula is:
9 * Grams of fat per serving / Calories per serving = Percent
of calories from fat
Gotcha. Thanks.
Message: 8721
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: Cliff
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 16:58:02
Re: I just can't afford the ammo!
Tell me what kind of Ammo you need Cliff. I'll buy you a box.
None of that Silver tip hollow point stuff!
Message: 8722
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Answer!
Subject: Gordon/Milk
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 22:50:36
No Gordon, my physical body handles milk products fairly well. The only
time I notice an affect is when I pig out on a pizza.
My objection is (and we had a debate on milk products several years ago on
this system) that dairy products are not healthy for the human animal. Milk
and cheese tends to lay in the large intestines and rot. We use a little of
what these products have to offer in the way of vitamins and minerals.
The U.S. government recently wanted to label these products, along with red
meat as not healthy to our system. But you and I know how powerful these
organizations are, plus just think how much faster our country would slip
into a depression if people no longer supported these giant industries.
Another objection is that we humans take a female cow (another fine animal)
and lock it into a stall. Then we put a metal suction device on its tits to
drain the animal. (Yes, I know they "Moo" when full and want to be drained
but wouldn't any of us do that if our offspring was taken away at birth?)
I also object to eating veal although I'm sure my body can handle that
fairly well.
I would rather die than to eat veal. And my intake of milk related products
has been cut way down although it is hard to get away from considering Milk
Chocolate and bread contain milk. "Moo"
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Message: 5170
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Erotic Stories
Subject: Drizzle
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 22:09:13
The sky booms just seconds after I see a brilliant finger of god strike the
ground. The wind blows briskly, brushing my hair, as a lover would, out of
my eyes. The tiny drops burst as they hit my skin and run rivers, falling
between my knuckles. Another flash startles me and I jump, returning to the
bedroom and sliding the glass door shut before the sky begins bellowing
again. I open the blinds and draw them up to the ceiling, turn off the back
light and bed lamp. I turn up the music from the stereo. What a lovely
accompaniment the thunder with make with Bach. I return to my beudior and
stack up the pillows so I can recline on the billowy, blue satin bed yet
still have a magnificent few of the boisterous storm outside. I start to
float away into the 17th century with Sebastian as we dance in a grand
ballroom, drink champagne from long stemmed glasses, step out on the veranda
to watch the rain fall onto the blooming roses...
You awaken me gently, rubbing your hand over the blue satin that covers my
belly, slipping the sheets down past my thighs. You lean over my mouth as
your hot breath makes my tongue ache for yours. I open my eyes to see the
rain dripping down the window, the music gone, and the room a dark blue.
"The power went out, Love" you inform.
"Oh, darn. Guess you can't work on your computer anymore then."
"No," you say with a pout.
"Well," I tease as my hand follows your line of hair down your chest, over
your belly button, and into your pants, "maybe we can find something else to
do in your copious spare time."
"Hummm, maybe," you toy, falling onto the bed and rolling me over.
You pull my hands underneath me, bounding me with my own body. I try to
resist, but not much. I love to have you take me. I love it when you have
me take you. You must have read my smile and lower your boxers and quickly
jump up in front of my face. I breathe on it first, making it jump up and
hit my nose. I laugh. You "ahhhh". I lick the glistening jelly from your
head. I "mmmm". You "ohhhh". Then I reach my tongue out as far as it
will go, making sure it's nice and wet and then make my way up from the
bottom of your hard staff to the tip of your lovely cock. I "yum".
You "OHhhh ho ho". Then I take you deep into my throat, sliding it in so
far that your balls hit my chin. I can only hear muffled moans as your legs
close around my ears. I feel your strong legs tensing against my shoulders
and then drop back as you slowly slide in and out of my velvet mouth. You
reach behind and pull my panties up into that tight crevous, the soft cotton
pushing on my swollen clit and rubbing in between my cheeks. You lightly
run your fingers over the outer lips and every once in a while, sneak one
finger to the middle, hitting my pleasure pea..
I feel you getting longer and wider in my mouth. In my hand, your jewels
are as hard as diamonds. You slip your hand underneath my wet panties,
finally touching my wanting bud. I arch up to met your hand and take you
even deeper into my throat. I can hear you clearly again as your legs move
back from my head.
"Ohhhh" comes from deep within your throat. I start to release my moans as
well, my well readying itself to explode. I start to choke and you pull out
and lay beside me whispering, "let me hear you scream...Come on, baby, let
go...let go..." Your words turn me on as much as your hands! You drop your
mouth over my hard nipple, one finger drops down inside my gripping well,
another plays double time on my clitoris. I know there's no way out of this
ecstasy. I start falling away from you, the bed, the rain outside, into
this bright tunnel towards the sea. Waves of pleasure pulse outward from my
core and flow through my limbs, making me convulse and shake. It seems to
last for minutes and then I start to hear the noises of the world come back
faintly as I gasp and moan into your kissing mouth.
"Yes, baby, yeah...you're ok...I'm here, I'm here...I love you..."
I open my eyes to see you there, fire still in your eyes. My walls are
pulsing and gripping your still finger. You set a pace for my breathing as
you slowing enter and withdraw from me, kissing my ears and giving me goose
bumps.
"Can we open the patio doors?" I ask.
You get up off the bed. As lightning flashes, I see the silhouette of you
standing, bare and beautiful. Your image is burned on my eyes so I can gaze
at your long rod sticking straight up. I rush off the bed, slip on my gauze
night shirt and run outside to the wet air. The smell of the whipped up
dust and calichi fills my nose.
"What are you doing out there, you silly?" you question.
"Getting wet"
"Oh I thought you already WERE wet!" you kid.
"Getting wetter then!"
I move away from the shelter of the roof and walk into the rain. The large
droplets pelt the delicate fabric, enbedding the soft material into my skin.
I turn round so you can watch as my nightgown turns from opaque to
translucent. Your mouth goes from open to gapping as you see my curves come
into view before your eyes. You move out to me, water running over your hard
muscles, hardening my nipples. You move down to kiss my chest through my
shirt. I gasp as the warmth of your mouth and the cool rain send
conflicting pleasures to my brain. Steam rises from my chest as you take
first one breast in your hands to warm it and then the other. All my blood
rushes to my groin again and I feel weak in the knees, resting my head on
the back of your shoulder. You lift me up and carry me back inside. Once
inside, I lean against the inside of the glass door. I see your
still ready rod and get an idea. I press myself against the glass, my
nightshirt resting on the top of my bottom.
"Are you ready for me?" I tease.
"Ohhhh ho ho," you answer
You move toward me, grabbing hold to either side of my hips. As I rise to
my tip-toes, you bend your knees so you're pressing against my hole. You
gently slide into me and another flash of light slices the sky. We both
look up and out. "What a view for the neighbors if they happen to look over
fence" you remark. I start to laugh but it gets cut off in my throat as you
move higher inside me. I "ohhhh, my" as you melt my insides. You bring a
hand around front and and massage my breasts, rubbing from the outside in
big circles and getting smaller and smaller and closer and closer and
"YESsssss" I hiss as you reach my nipple, twisting it between two fingers.
You move your other hand down to my point of entry and rub with one finger
in small circles around my mound, getting smaller and smaller and bringing
in another finger and another and another and
"YESsssss" I moan as your whole hand rubs in a circle, pulling my clit in
and out of my hood as you pull yourself in and out of me. I feel a tingling
in my legs that rises up the back of my calves, runs through my knees and
wraps around my thighs. It fingers up through my ass and lands in a splash
on my clit as you pump your come deep into my gripping gap, your buttocks
shuddering, legs shaking. You move your hands from me to support your
weight against the sweating window. Still connected, I twist to kiss your
heaving mouth. "Thank you" we say simultaneously.
We walk back to the bed and colapse, the water underneath us sloshing, the
rain outside still trickling, the night sky faintly flashing and quietly
moaning. We lay back against the pillows and watch the sky as it settles
and whines, crying itself to sleep.
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Message: 1553
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: New-Release
Subject: _Primitive Tribe_
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 14:14:52
My brother's Flagstaff based band seems to be doing quite well. Their song,
"Plastic Land" is #22 on the Radio Kaos (an alternative program on a regular
pop station) most requested list. They beat out U2! In fact, they are the
only local small time band on the list! Way to go, Tribe!
If you want to get one of their tapes, they are available in the valley at
Peter Petrisko's Metropophobobia for 4.50.
A great stocking stuffer idea!
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1:Does anyone know of a good place to buy drive belts for Compact Disk
2:players? I went to Radio Shack a few days ago looking for one for their
3:model CD1400 with no luck. They said to check with a electronics
4:distributor. I thought they were one.
5:
6:I found that a piece of bicycle innertube did the trick although I would
7:suspect the length of service would be less than OEM. In any case I cut
8:several dozen 'belts' from the tube and I still have 98% of the tube intact.
9:
10:I shopped at Electronic Distributors when they were on 3rd St. and Indian
11:School and then followed them to their 25th St. & I.S. location but they
12:went out of business.
13:
14:I would love to find a large packet of mix and match belt material. It
15:seems that they would be easy and cheap to manufacture.
16:end
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Message: 80179
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: On the Lighter Side
Subject: Bill on me & Rod
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 05:22:27
Our outlooks may seem similiar, Bill, but I can assure you that we look at
life (and death) from completely different perspectives. And never the twain
shall meet!
Message: 80180
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Bill on Sex-Ed
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 05:31:22
"The whole mess of having the schools explain this stuff could be avoided if
parents would accept the responsibility to make explanations themselves and
wold then follow through and do some explaining."
A little redundancy there, I think, but I couldn't agree more with the
concept. The days are long since past when parents can shrug off the
responsibility of properly raising their children to day care centers and
the school system. We can no longer tell our children that the stork brings
babies, or if girls kiss boys they'll get pregnant. Children can understand
and handle truth far better than most adults give them credit for, and the
place to learn these things is in the home. Unfortunately, the family
structure has been greatly weakened by many circumstances the past 20 years
or so, making some things more difficult. Sort of a vicious cycle in
operation. Maybe a return to the strong family unit of a couple of
generations ago would be a good place to start breaking the cycle. For that,
we have to take a hard look at working mothers, current child abuse laws
that can interpret simple discipline as abuse, and an economy that demands
at least dounle incomes for survival. For starters.
Message: 80181
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Annie on the media
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 05:39:00
"It's just another damn fad until after the smoke clears away."
What's a fad, Annie? Hundreds of thousands of lives being lost to this
insidious disease? Mostly homos, granted, a section of society whose
lifestyle I detest, but that does not justify just letting them die because
of their own misdeeds. They are still human beings, and so long as the
disease continues to spread, and the threat to all of society continues
unabated, the coverage will continue, in the name of education if nothing
else. Perhaps you and I and everyone on this BBS knows all we need to know
to avoid getting AIDS, but the fact that there are people out there who are
still making contact with it, I think we owe it to them to continue telling
them the whys, hows and wherefores. Cemetary space is abot to become
premium, and the last time I looked, they weren't making any more real
estate.
Message: 80182
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Felix-Most? Ha!
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 07:30:56
> I think most parents do tell their children. I have 3 boys,
> 12, 13, and 15.
I don't know, but I'd bet you're wrong. YOU might have told your kids, and
I might have told my kids, and Cliff might have told his kids, but we aren't
most people.
I think most people are uncomfortable telling their kids about such things
and are satisfied to let the schools and the media do the dirty work.
Message: 80183
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Oh, Ann
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 07:31:32
> Oh come on yourself Bill! I still say what the hell are we
> doing to our childen that the PARENTS have to take the
> responsibility as you said to tell their kids about a disease
> like AIDS? No matter what that reporter was asking the 6 - 7
> year old children ... This is all crazy and people like you
> don't see it for what it is and you go out and burden little
> kids with this junk.
No, YOU come on yourself, Ann!!
Gordon has said everything I have to say on this subject, and he's
said it much, much better than I could. I refer you to his series of posts.
And, to me, it IS important what that reported said to those
children, because I believe, in order to justify your preset opinion on this
subject, you probably "heard" more than was said.
> But I don't see where the media is touting 'abstinence' as a
> way to curtail AIDS, do you?
I can't recall a news story in the recent past that didn't couple (sorry)
"safe sex" with "abstinence."
Message: 80184
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Waiting for Gordo
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 07:31:56
Did anyone ever notice how quiet it seems to get in here when Gordon posts
one of his treatises? No matter what the commotion, no matter whether you
agree or disagree, Gordon's stuff demands to be listened to.
A lovely, lovely series of posts, Gordon.
Message: 80185
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ridiculous Rod
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 07:32:15
> I've gotta make points in a ridiculous fashion. There are too
> many educated, well written people on this system and I can't
> compete.
And here I thought you did it because it's so effective.
> I did notice the opening for a 'ridiculous writer' here and I
> grabbed it.
I, for one, am glad you did. It's good to have you back on a regular basis.
Message: 80186
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Pauley on AIDS
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 09:43:41
Doesn't anyone read my posts anymore? I never said there wasn't people dying
from the disease or that they wern't human beings - I was talking about the
media making a fad out of it. I still say, if it wasn't sexual in nature, no
matter if "hundreds of thousands" of people were dying from it, it would not
be plasterer every where you turn! More people by far die of other diseases
and not a word is said about them.
I will post those statistics again if I can remember them ...
There are 9-10 million people with AIDS WORLD wide
7 million of those cases are in Africa.
200,000 have it in the United States.
OK - lets look at those statistics ... if you deduct the 7 million in Africa
from the 10 million, thats 3 million world wide. WORLD WIDE!!! Compared to
even Malaria, that's a drop in the bucket. Ditto heart disease, cancer, etc.
Out of all those millions, about 72% are homos or of a culture that they
have anal intercourse - do not frown on it.
When you look at that 3 million world wide, it seems like a lot, but not
when you think China alone has over a billion people.
If we only have 200,000 people with AIDS in the U.S. - that is also a drop
in the bucket. I say this entire subject is way over blown and media
inspired and we are panicing because of it. I have not thought this way all
along, but only lately. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 80187
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/200,000
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 11:06:23
It took 8 years to get the 1st 100,000 and it took 2 years to get the second
100,000. How long do you think it will take to double now ? 100,000 here or
there and pretty soon you have an epidemic.
Message: 80188
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/Social Director
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 11:07:35
I nominate George Burns.
Message: 80189
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Food
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 11:24:34
Chocolate-orange muffin, anyone?
Message: 80190
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Question?
Subject: Rod
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 11:48:33
Re: Our traditions still have us by the gonads. They need to be
carefully examined and de-glitched.
Are you talking about our traditions or our gonads?
:-) (-: :-) (-: :-) :-) (-: :-) (-: :-) (-: :-) (-:
Message: 80191
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 11:57:00
Re: you and I and everyone on this BBS knows all we need to know to avoid
getting AIDS, but the fact that there are people out there who are still
making contact with it, I think we owe it to them to continue telling them
the whys, hows and wherefores.
I think 99% of the people making contact already know the "whys, hows, and
wherefores." They just do it anyway. Magic is a good example. He knew the
"whys, hows, and wherefores", but he just did it anyway. I'm not sure what
we're fighting here, but it's not just ignorance.
Message: 80192
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Green
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 12:06:51
Re: your ... "It too 8 years to get the 1st 100,000 ...."
Yes and we have became more promiscuous in the last 10 years than ever
before in the history of mankind. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 80193
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cat #80191
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 12:10:19
Exactly what I've been saying. How much education do we need?
I too do not know what the arguing is about on this board. Everyone seems
out to insult the next guy without even reading their posts closely.
-=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 80194
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gordon on AIDS
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 12:12:00
I always enjoy your posts Gordon, even when I disagree like I do
with your Children/AIDS posts. No - that isn't entirely true
because I do agree with most of it, but evidently you miss my
point because you got off on some far out plane talking about
"people not wanting their children to see their weaknesses" and
"their shame," "lying to them has got to stop," and "that some
people can't abide the thought that the kids know about such
things as Gays" et al. The quotes are yours. I'm sorry, as
interesting as it was, I don't feel had anything to do with it.
Lets simplify this and let me ask you ...
(1) Do you feel it was OK for the reporters to go into a class
room of 6 year olds and ask them what they think about Magic
Johnson's AIDS?
(2) Do you think children of that age should be told about AIDS
... if they ask, if they don't' ask?
(3) What is telling them entail... Anal intercourse? Gays? How it
is spread? If a 6 year old has not been told the facts of
life yet, would it become necessary to teach that child right
then in order to explain AIDS?
You obviously do not think that the media is keeping the fire
stoked on this subject because it sells. Did you read my
statistics? Which BTW was a very small article! Ironic.
Message: 80195
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 14:25:44
I will try to hit the library this week to back up my statement.
Also, another question for you: you seem to be saying that since "about 72%
are homos" who have AIDS, that that means it's their fault if they catch the
disease and die and who really cares since they are homos.
If this was a disease that only effected blacks (or African-Americans or
whatever they want to be called these days) or only effected women, would
you be so quick to write off the research? There are, by the way, diseases
that only effect women and blacks, in case you were going to say that that
was a stupid example.
Message: 80196
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer!
Subject: Beau
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 14:26:15
Good muffins, babe! Maybe we can bring some to the shoot out.
Message: 80197
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dee on Ann
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 15:01:23
Dee... A black can't be anything but a black. A woman can't be
anything but a woman. But a gay can quit being gay or at least restrain
himself/herself from unprotected sex acts. Seems to me these gay people
have many partners... They could also keep it to just ONE 'lover' (sic)
who has a clean bill of health. (each one)
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Message: 80198
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: For sale
Subject: Stuff for $$$$$
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 17:19:17
Brand new TEAC 1,2 meg Floppy drive for AT type computers. $30.00
One used 1200 baud Prometheus (external) modem $30.00
One 'Barry Goldwater' collectors plate (#633) "The Statesman" by
artist Don Ruffin. $50.00
One Pewter Star Ship Enterprise (first one) $150.00
One rolling shed... A front end wrecked 1978 Dodge van $100.00
Really does make a good shed, keeps things off the ground & dry!
IBM type software.. Certificate Maker, Home Video Producer,
Space Station OBLIVION, Murder by The Dozen...
$5.00 each or all 4 for $10.00
Atari ST software.. Joust (2 left) and TextPro $5.00 takes all
Stamp Collection... U.S. and/or United Nations.... $???.??
One small desk (20 by 37) w\ one draw and lower shelf $10.00
Parting out 1982 Charger (Dodge Omni) call.... 843-3346
or leave mail to SYSOP in [P]ost Office.
Message: 80200
Author: $ Green Lantern
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann/Promiscuity
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 17:48:16
And would you say that society has become more or less promiscuous in the
last 2 years ? I would hazard a guess that it would be less promiscuous than
previously due to the AIDS scare.
I have also heard that the rate of AIDS in the homosexual community has
dropped over the last few years, due in large part to the onset of AIDS in
that group.
AIDS continues because of intravenous drug users and prostitution in the
heterosexual community.
Message: 80201
Author: John Groseclose
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann's morality
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 20:28:23
Ann says:
AO> Re: your ... "It too 8 years to get the 1st 100,000 ...."
AO>
AO> Yes and we have became more promiscuous in the last 10 years than
AO> ever before in the history of mankind. -=*) ANN (*=-
Ever heard of the Holy Roman Empire, Ann? Adolescent homosexuality was
smiled on, men freely had sex with their wives, their slaves, and
occasionally their pets? The world today is far LESS promiscuous than that.
Of course, AIDS may do for the modern world what lead poisoning did to the
Romans. . . .
Message: 80202
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 03:42:26
Ann, your figures are incorrect. It is estimated that 1.5 million poeple in
the United States are HIV positive. Within the next eighteen months, a
total of 200,000 people in this country will have died of AIDS.
You don't need to be a math genius to envision the devastation this disease
can and will cause if neither a cure nor a vaccine are found. It took until
1988 to kill the first hundred thousand people. Within the next ten years,
it will kill at least one million more.
Message: 80204
Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Archi / HIV test
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 06:24:20
RE: You can trust the person 100% and still be aware that he or she may not
know he or she is infected.
I agree with this. My girl friend and I talk about this just this weekend.
She has already been tested for HIV, but I have not. My life style for the
last 23 years puts me in a very low risk group. But I'm still going be
tested for HIV, just for our peace of mind.
<<< Joe >>>
Message: 80205
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Felix/Magic
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 06:46:53
Speaking of the Magic Johnson thing, since you brought it up, there is an
excellent letter to the editor in this morning's Repulsive, by one L. Donnan
of Apache Junction. It expresses pretty well what most of us shold probably
be feeling about this "hero's" admissions.
We seem to be setting some pretty sorry examples for heroes these days,
don't we?
Message: 80206
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Beau and Melissa
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 06:49:56
Chocolate/orange muffins? Am interesting combination, to say the least.
While I would rather bake pies, I may give that a try one of these days.
Message: 80207
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: Dee #80195
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 07:42:28
I seem to be saying???? When did I ever say 'who really cares sice they are
homos?'
I am only saying that I don't think the disease warrents pulling off other
diseases because it is NOT THAT MUCH OF A THREAT per se than other diseases
are!! Did you hear me or need I shout more?
I also said that the media is hyping it! ...
That I didn't think children 6 years old need be told in detail about it!..
That I don't think much of Magic Johnson and certainly don't think he is a
hero in the least...
AIDS has a great amount of people contributing to a cure. MY PERSONAL
opinion is - leave the other monies alone. That's all Melissa. Why you must
read something else into what I am saying I don't know. It's very
unecessary. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 80208
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff #80197
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 07:44:48
Some people here seem to be blind to that fact.
May I add to your post and say that it goes for hetrosexual people also.
-=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 80209
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nick on AIDS
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 07:49:45
I guess our statistics are what we as individuals read in the paper or
magazines.
What exactly is your solution? You mentioned education. We've had it for a
few years now and it still rises. Find a cure? Of course we want a cure for
that or any disease, but you never answered - do we pull monies off other
research? -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 80210
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: John #80201
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 07:59:01
I don't agree at all. The Roman Empire was decadant - the rest of the world
was not. Through out history men have had many lovers, mistresses, etc. but
the other, larger half of the race, women, have not and that is throughout
history!! I do not recall any ancient race of people condoning their women
to be promiscuous and that goes for today too. In America is seems that the
women are catching up to the men - for example 60% of the wives cheat on
their husband's compared to about 75% of the men that do. That 60% is at a
all time high for American women. So I don't believe your ... "The world
today is far less promiscuous". -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 80211
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Ann - 1
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 08:52:44
> Doesn't anyone read my posts anymore?
Plenty of us read your posts, Ann. And most of us disagreed with the
central point you initially made: That AIDS education had gone too far. It
seems now that you're trying to change the emphasis of your messages to
point out that the so-called AIDS epidemic is getting far too much attention
in the press. On this point you'll find a great deal of agreement.
> ...we have became more promiscuous in the last 10 years than
> ever before in the history of mankind.
Baloney! I personally know several men who have completely stopped
"sleeping around" in the last several years. There are no doubt still quite
a few promiscuous people out there, but nothing like the '70s and early
'80s, much less "in the history of mankind."
Message: 80212
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Politics
Subject: Ann - 2
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 08:53:27
You didn't address your questions to me, but I'd like to answer them anyway:
> (1) Do you feel it was OK for the reporters to go into a class
> room of 6 year olds and ask them what they think about Magic
> Johnson's AIDS?
Depending what, specifically, the reporter asked the children, yes.
> (2) Do you think children of that age should be told about AIDS
> ... if they ask, if they don't' ask?
Yes, if they ask.
> (3) What is telling them entail... Anal intercourse? Gays? How it
> is spread? If a 6 year old has not been told the facts of
> life yet, would it become necessary to teach that child right
> then in order to explain AIDS?
The child's curiosity should be answered. "Why did Magic have to quit
basketball?" "Because he has a very serious illness." "What's he have"
"It's called AIDS and can cause his body to get very sick from things that
might not affect you or I so badly." "How'd Magic get AIDS?" "No one knows
for sure. There are a lot of ways to get it." "Could I get AIDS?" "Yes,
but it's really not very likely." And so on, as far as it needs to go.
Message: 80213
Author: $ Bill Burkett
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Oh, Cliff!
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 08:53:51
> One Pewter Star Ship Enterprise (first one) $150.00
NOT THE PEWTER ENTERPRISE!!!
Message: 80214
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gordon/Kids
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 15:24:34
I think I agree with you. An honest question from a kid deserves and honest
answer. I do think that it is appropriate that things be presented to kids
from the standpoint that just becasue adults may not be perfect and may have
lost some of their allusions that doesn't mean that the kids needs to think
everything is bleak for the future. You shouldn't destroy a childs hope
because you have lost yours or had it smashed thru the vicissitudes of life.
Just because statistically 20% of todays children are going to get AIDS
you don't have to present that info you a child as if he/she is going to be
in that 20%.
Message: 80215
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: REligreligious right
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 15:27:36
I say religious right because in my experiance that group can be counted on
to oppose anything that they view as something that will facilitate sexual
activity. Allowing people to check out their prospective sex partners on
the spot will make it easier for people to engage in sex on the first date
again since they will ahve some better idea of who is "safe".
Message: 80216
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: AIDs
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 15:32:14
If I heard the news story correctly, 25% of NEW AIDS cases in this country
are Heterosexual people. While the statistic that "only" 5% or whatever of
known AIDS cases are Hetro may be somewhat reassuring to some, the 25%
statistic ought to scare the hell out of you if you have kids who will be
entering into their sexually active but single years anygime soon.
Message: 80217
Author: $ Fred Smith
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/Magic/Hero
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 15:41:09
ALthough you and I often don't agree I do agree with you on the absurdity of
calling Magic a hero. I find him neither a hero or martyr. Of course he
may have caught it years ago (doubtfull) he did not indicate that he slowed
in his "accommodation" of women even in the last 2 years when most adults
knew the risks of such high level promiscuity. He also should at least be
given credit for the grace with which he is facing his situation. Doesn't
make him a hero, of course, but at least he is honest about his situation.
Message: 80218
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Answer!
Subject: Mz. Dee
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 16:38:46
Re: you seem to be saying that since "about 72% are homos" who have AIDS,
that that means it's their fault if they catch the disease and die and who
really cares since they are homos.
Well, no one would say they don't care about another human being dying I'm
sure Annie does care very much. We all care, but your comment about "it's
not their fault." Well, who's fault is it? The homos know a 100% absolute
guaranteed method to stop AIDS/HIV dead in it's tracks, but the statistic of
72% seems to indicate they don't have a problem with taking a risk. So
who's fault is it?
Re: If this was a disease that only effected blacks
Are you maybe talking about "sickle cell anemia?" If so, you are comparing
apples to oranges. Modern medicine does not know how to prevent SCA, but we
do know how to prevent AIDS/HIV.
Message: 80219
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Groseclose
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 16:42:21
Re: Adolescent homosexuality was smiled on, men freely had sex with their
wives, their slaves, and occasionally their pets? The world today is far
LESS promiscuous than that.
What's makes you think it's any less? Sounds about the same to me. And you
know what happened to the Roman Empire. Hmmmmmm.
Message: 80220
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Politics
Subject: Bill
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 16:47:52
Re: Baloney! I personally know several men who have completely stopped
"sleeping around" in the last several years.
Double Baloney! So you know two (several) men who have completely stopped
"sleeping around." I'm sure that will swing the tide against AIDS/HIV and
all the other VD's. HA!
Message: 80221
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Politics
Subject: Bill
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 16:50:25
Re: "How'd Magic get AIDS?" "No one knows for sure.
No one knows for sure??? We know exactly how he got it, unless Magic is
lying about it.
This whole conversation on AIDS/HIV is getting really deep!
Message: 80222
Author: $ Felix Cat
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Fred
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 16:54:41
Re: Allowing people to check out their prospective sex partners on
the spot will make it easier for people to engage in sex on the first date
again since they will ahve some better idea of who is "safe".
The subject was supposed to be "Fred." Sorry about that.
Right, we really need to promote sex on the first date. I'm sure that will
make our country a better place to live. Just think of all the benefits of
have sex on the first date.
Message: 80223
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff, Ann, Cat
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 21:59:27
You all are obviously in the "homos have a choice" category and I am not.
Did you choose to be hetrosexual?
And women and men CAN choose to change their sex. As for blacks, Michael
Jackson has been taking pills and injections for years, in addition to his
numberous plastic surgeries, to try and lighten his skin.
Cliff- Of the 20 or so gay persons I have known, none of them were any more
or less promiscuous than my hetrosexual ones.
Ann- I often have to read things into what you are writing because I have a
hard time trying to figure out just what you ARE saying sometimes. However,
I did misunderstand you. I apologize.
Message: 80224
Author: $ Melissa Dee
Category: Vote
Subject: Wow
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 22:00:41
The new governor would have been David Duke had we voted?
Scary.
Message: 80225
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Green Lantern
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 23:08:22
I second the nomination for George Burns as social director of this country.
It makes sense.
We need a charismatic, outspoken person to direct this country. It seems
that everytime we get one or get close to having one they are killed.
No wonder I want to leave this planet and NEVER return.
Message: 80226
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: AIDS
Date: 12/02/91 Time: 23:16:44
I have managed to aquire a small vial of the AIDS virus. It is probably
enough to infect several hundred thousand people.
All I am asking is $3.00 per hit or two hits for $5.00. Part of the profit
will go towards feeding my family & some more of it will help complete my CD
collection.
Thanks.
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Message: 26
Author: $ Apollo SysOp
Category: Old [V]ote
Subject: KKK Governor
Date: 12/01/91 Time: 10:06:40
Imagine yourself transported to Louisiana where voters are being asked to
choose a new governor. Neither of the two remaining choices are very
appealing: One is an ex-governor who was accused but never convicted of
racketeering. The other is a former KKK leader and was once perhaps a Nazi
who now professes more moderate views.
You are a good citizen who has exercised his or her franchise at every
opportunity in the past and wish to do so again.
For whom would you vote?
[A] The ex-governor.
[B] The ex-KKK leader.
[C] I would abstain from voting.
Poll results:
[A] 8 [B] 9 [C] 13
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