Apollo BBS Archive - December 1988

Apollo BBS Archive - December 16, 1988


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Message: 4940
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Joe
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 15:04:26

What if I felt homicidal?

Message: 4941
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: David, Last.
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 18:55:45

Then we'd find a gay singles group for you. (snicker)

Message: 4942
Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Paul/feelings
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 03:14:17

What?

Message: 4943
Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Answer!
Subject: David/homicidal
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 03:20:14

David, that is a sign that you not dealing with other hurt feelings. Like
anger, a homicidal feelings is really a secondary feeling, or more percise
an emotional reaction to a more base feeling.
 
                               <<< Joe >>>

The outer COSmos Bulletin Board command:$C

Message: 2455
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Pat
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 10:41:25

I don't get it.  Please explain.

Message: 2456
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 15:21:49

Yeah, but I sent the rest of it to Ann.

Message: 2457
Author: $ Pat Stoddard
Category: Jokes & Ha Ha's
Subject: For you, Ann
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 22:12:55

  It was the night before Christmas, and all through the house,
everyone felt shitty, even the mouse.
Mom at the whore house, and Dad smoking grass,
I had just settled down for a nice piece of ass.
When out of the lawn I heard such a clatter,
I sprang from my piece to see what was the matter.
When out on the lawn I saw a big dick,
I knew in a moment it must be Saint Prick.
He came down the chimney like a bat out of hell,
I knew in a moment the bastard had fell.
He filled our stockings with pretzels and beer,
and a big rubber dick for my brother, the queer.
He rose up the chimney with a thunderous fart,
and the son of a bitch blew our chimney apart.
He swore and cussed as he rode out of sight,
Shouting "Piss on you all, and have a hell of a night!"
 
Later...                                                 Pat

Message: 2458
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Pat/last joke
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 06:14:56

I appriciate that you dedicated that lovely poem to me - but didn't I post
that very same one last Christmas? Hahahahaha Keep them coming.
-=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 2459
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Rod/David/12 in.
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 06:17:02

Rod - 12 inches ain't bad no matter how you look at it!
David - SO! Your the culprit eh?
Sandy - Down girl! I know what the mention of 12 inches will do to you even
if half of it is missing! -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 2460
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Who-dun-it
Subject: Ann
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 13:34:24

        But I thought everyone knew that it was David.

Message: 56052
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Something about Nick
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 10:38:43

He likes Star Trek and Paranet.

Message: 56053
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 15:25:18

Or you could just read the True Facts right out of National Lampoon.  You
even get photos.

Message: 56054
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Once Again...
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 19:08:45

Daryl's famous holiday cookies kick culinary butt!
 
(just thought I would say that.)

Message: 56055
Author: $ Apro Poet
Category: Bulletins
Subject: Dave's Christmas
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 19:22:55

  There is a special request by a terminally ill boy in
Florida.  David has cancer and his "special Christmas wish" 
is to break the world record for the most Christmas cards
received by an individual.  The current record of 62,824 was
established by a San Francisco man in 1974.  Address your
Christmas cards to: David, P.O.Box 5997, Springhill, FL 34604.
Please pass this message along to others who care.

Message: 56056
Author: $ Apro Poet
Category: Politics
Subject: Chomsky
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 19:34:00

  The US is intent on winning its war against Nicaragua in
the same way.  Nicaragua must first be driven to dependence
on the USSR, to justify the attack that must be launched
against it to punish it for its violation of the Fifth 
Freedom.  If this attack does not succeed in restoring the
country to the happy state of Haiti or the Dominican 
Republic, or of the Samoza years, then at least it must 
ensure that no successful social and economic development can
take place there; the rotten apple must not be allowed to
infect the barrel.  It is very hard for a great power with 
the strength of the US to be defeated in a conflict with 
such adversaries, and it rarely is, though a failure to 
achieve maximal objectives is naturally regarded as a great
defeat by those of limitless ambition and aims, further proof
that we are a pitiful, helpless giant at the mercy of yellow
dwarves.
  The same essentially invariant nexus of principles and
assumptions, often internalized to the point of lack of
conscious awareness, explains another curious feature of US
international behavior: the hysteria evoked by threats to 
"stability" in countries of no economic or strategic interest
to the US, such as Laos or Grenada.  In the case of Grenada,
US hostility was immediate after the Bishop government took
power in 1979.  It was seriously maintained that this speck
in the Caribbean posed a security threat to the United 
States.  Distinguished military figures and commentators
issued solemn pronouncements on the threat posed by Grenada
to shipping lanes in the event of a Soviet attack on Western
Europe; in fact, in this event, if a Russian toothpick were
found on Grenada the island would be blown away, on the
unlikely assumption that such a war would last long enough
for anyone to care.  Laos, half way round the world, is 
perhaps a still more remarkable case.  Laos actually had a
relatively free election in 1958, despite massive US efforts
to subvert it.  The election was won by a coalition dominated
by the Pathet Lao, the Communist-led anti-French guerrillas.
The government was immediately overthrown by US subversion in
favor of "pro-western neutralists," soon replaced by 
right-wing military elements so reactionary and corrupt that
even the pro-American groups found themselves lined up with
the Pathet Lao, and supported by the USSR and China.  By 
1961, a US-organized army of highland tribesmen (utterly
decimated, finally, as a result of their mobilization for US
subversion and aggression) was fighting under the leadership
of former French collaborators under CIA control.  Through
the sixties, Pathet Lao-controlled areas were subjected to 
the fiercest bombing in history (soon to be exceeded in
Cambodia), in an effort "to destroy the physical and social
infrastructure" (in the words of a Senate subcommittee).  The
government conceded that this bombardment was not related to
the war in South Vietnam or Cambodia.  This was what is 
called in American Agitprop a "secret bombing" - a technical
term referring to US aggression that is well-known but 
concealed by the media, and later blamed on evil men in the
government who have departed from the American Way - as also
in the case of Cambodia, a fact that is suppressed until
today.  The purpose of this attack against a country of
scattered villages, against people who may not have even 
known that Laos existed, was to abort a mild 
revolutionary-nationalist movement that was attempting to 
bring about some reforms and popular mobilization in northern
Laos.
  Why should such great powers as Grenada and Laos evoke
this hysteria?  The security arguments are too ludicrous to
consider, and it is surely not the case that their resources
were too valuable to lose, under the doctrine of the Fifth
Freedom.  Rather, the concern was the domino effect.  Under
the rotten apple theory, it follows that the tinier and 
weaker the country, the less endowed it is with resources,
the more dangerous it is.  If even a marginal and 
impoverished country can begin to utilize its own limited
human and material resources and can undertake programs of
development geared to the needs of the domestic population,
then others may ask: why not us?  The contagion may spread,
infecting others, and before long the Fifth Freedom may be 
threatened in places that matter.

Message: 56060
Author: $ Joe Bottomlee
Category: Question?
Subject: Christmas Card/Paul
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 03:31:56

Paul, can you check on Apro Poet suggestion about send this boy David a
Christmas card. I would like to make sure it is not a hoax before I sent
one. Maybe one of your excoworkers would know about this.
 
                               <<< Joe >>>

Message: 56061
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann's car
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 03:37:42

Hey, at least my Vega hatchback is made of metal.

Message: 56062
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nick
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 06:11:22

Metal? Isn't that the obsolete stuff they used to make cars with? Hmmm ..
... I'd forgotten. -=*) ANN (*=-

Message: 56063
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Answer!
Subject: David-cards
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 12:42:28

For the fourth Christmas in a row, the "poor sick child wants Christmas
cards" hoax has surfaced.  According to U.S. Postal authorities, there is no
terminally ill child named David in Spring Hill, Florida.

One local school in Paradise Valley sent over 10,000 cards to the bogus
address this past week.  In the past few years, similar deluges of cards
have innundated postal authorities in small towns in Connecticut, Sussex
England, and Sri Lanka.

The question is, what to do with the cards, when it turns out there is no
child to receive them?  According to USPS regulations, they must be returned
to the sender, or stored in a dead letter file for a period of time before
being destroyed as undeliverable.

Well meaning people, please support a local charity if your heart tells you
to, but don't waste your time and money on this annual hoax.

                                                   ****  Gary   ****

Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:O

Hawley, James
Ianuzzi, Nick
Williams, Rod

Message: 38
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last on cold
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 10:57:10

        That only happened because you are not a Christian!

        You see Rod, we respect you even though you do not believe in God.
We do not call you "STUPID" for this...  But unlike Sandy and I, you call us
"STUPID" for believeing in God...  This is your arrogance and hate that we
have been talking to you about.   If your failing mind fails to recall when
the last time you called one of us "STUPID"...just scroll [B]ack a few
posts.


I wish you Happy Hollidays Rod!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 39
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Keys & Tail Lights
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 11:04:17

        Okay, you caught a kid that had a cross....  One for you, but that
kid needs help!   But you did not catch the one who took the key board of
keys.... you assume he was a Christian...  That is not fair, and is not even
worthy of mention....but you need ammo to fight us Christians, so you grasp
at anything even though it may not be true!
        I wish you would use facts instead of 'fairy tales'.

Have a Happy!

*=* SYSOP Cliff *=*

Message: 40
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 12:12:22

      I thought, of all people, you would realize just because someone says
they are something doesn't mean that they actually are. Many people who call
themselves Christians will find themselves right here on earth come the
Rapture ..... why? Because they did not really believe in what Jesus did for
us sinners, they did not show their sincerity by living as the Bible
teaches. You should know it is wrong to steal ...... I would doubt this kids
statement, especially if this is not his first time.

Message: 41
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Christian kids
Date: 12/16/88  Time: 15:41:00

Actually I would put money on the fact that the two kids are indeed
Christians.  More than 50% of the population is Christian, and so at least
one of the two kids *should* be CHRISTIAN.

Message: 42
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 13:44:07

        The neighborhood in question, concerning the stolen keys, is at 15th
St. and Van Buren, a predominately Spanish neighborhood.  I believe that
everyone of the families in that area are Christians.
        Also, when you come down with a cold, what do you blame it on?  The
Devil?
        When I first started BBSing, I noticed how everything was rosy
chit-chat.  I took the tact that no one else had taken.  I believe that if
it were the other way around, that everyone was saying how rotten our
society was, I would have set about to prove the majority wrong.
        This is not the case, though, when it comes to religion.  I am truly
an atheist.  I realize that I have been hard-nosed but not with malice. 
Things such as religion have to be worked out in one's own mind and all the
yelling from an atheist will not achieve this.  I respect your views and
understand your right to have them.  It has been an interesting debate, less
than boring.
        Happy Holidays.
                                Rod

Message: 43
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Rod's thoughts
Subject: Continued Story
Date: 12/17/88  Time: 13:51:08

        I went out into the world as a new Christian, self taught.  I made
every one of the interpretations myself.  I taught the message of Christ and
made good headway but everytime I met someone from a church, I found myself
in disagreement with them.  They usually quoted Paul, whom I said earlier
did not belong in the NT.  He is a fag.
        It seems that these church people only liked to think in chapter and
verse and not in the root of the story.  It is like they missed the entire
idea.  Of course, what was drilled into their brains and interpreted for
them was that you were neither too old, too poor, too young, too ugly to
tythe.  From what I saw the entire gospel was based on money and not being
allowed to chew gum or go to see Elmer Gantry.......
        Note: Petrisko is on the other line with an emergency....

Cont.