Public & Free Bulletin Board command:$C Message: 68331 Author: $ Jeff Beck Category: Answer! Subject: Rod/Nitrec/cost Date: 08/06/90 Time: 03:08:41 The salvation of Nitrec is a gift; only, you have to earn it by accepting Nitrec into your heart as your personal savior, and you have to repent of your sinful ways (like, the way you scoffed at Nitrec all those years). So, it's kind of like those free gifts you receive in the mail, where you have to drive a hundred miles and listen to some guy deliver a hard-sell pitch involving timeshare property; except in this case you must buy in order to get your *free gift*. It's all part of God's great plan. Message: 68332 Author: Mike Lauson Category: Drug Talk Subject: steriods Date: 08/06/90 Time: 03:43:53 does anyone know enough about this subject to give some good advice on its benefits and the not so good effects it also has such as liver damage etc. Any help is sincerely appreciated Fact is i'm already buffed but i just wanna get that edge! In other words get huge, disasterous looking.....well enough chat. Laterz Message: 68333 Author: Rich Wojtasik Category: Drug Talk Subject: fags Date: 08/06/90 Time: 04:20:40 well i just wanted to say sorry for acting like an asshole. life has been preety hard on me, what can you expect... i just got outta jail and i'm use to sucking you know what...well sorry again *Rich* Message: 68334 Author: $ Bill Burkett Category: Chit Chat Subject: JB/Physics Date: 08/06/90 Time: 09:56:19 This is giving me a headache. I don't think I really want to know this stuff. Thanks anyway. Message: 68335 Author: $ Bill Burkett Category: Religion Subject: JB/Niterc Date: 08/06/90 Time: 09:56:42 I can't find "daicnud" in the dictionary. What's it mean? Message: 68336 Author: $ Ann Oudin Category: Chit Chat Subject: Love Date: 08/06/90 Time: 10:33:48 I know of a lady that stayed with her husband for over 40 years until he died last year - never could figure out why she stayed all those years, he didn't beat her but the verbal abuse was terrible - she was (allowed herself) a slave to his whims. He was a sick man (emphasema Sp?) for most of those years - he couldn't do the work, so he had her do it whether she was sick herself or not. We knew her 10 years and in all that time she did nothing but complain - yet when he died, you'd think she'd be relieved, but certainly wasn't - told me she missed him and loved him??!! Now she is 70 years old and free and taking advantage of that freedom in doing, decorating, going where she wants - but she still 'moons' over him and misses him. I'm puzzled as to why?! Is that love? If so, what kind? I do realize she's from 'the old school' where people stayed married no matter what. But for the last 20 years or so, she's lived in a modern world where she could have shed him quite easily and not lose a thing material wise or 'face' wise either. Her kids certainly wouldn't have minded - he was hard on them all! (They were her kids from a former marriage where the husband got killed). I still ask - "how can you love someone like that?" -=*) ANN (*=- Message: 68337 Author: $ Apollo SYSOP Category: $tatus users only Subject: Mail Date: 08/06/90 Time: 13:42:39 Users.... PLEASE ZAP old mail after reading it. You don't leave old mail in your mailbox at home...so don't do it here! This is reposted...because the people this is aimed at seem to IGNORE theules when It comes to mail. So, before I mention names... DELETE your OLD mail!.... NOW! If the mail box over flows, then mail not yet recieved will be lost. So far this has not happened... but a few users don't seem to understand this can happen very fast when mail is left in the ost Office after being read and not
apped. There are SEVERAL users who are doing this.... that adds up fast! *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=* <-clif- Message: 68338 Author: $ Paul Savage Category: Chit Chat Subject: Annie/love/lust Date: 08/06/90 Time: 14:07:17 Lust is one of the baser emotions, but it's not something on which to build a long-lasting relationship, that's for sure! And it's not really a pre-requisite to love, either. We can love another without lusting after them, and lust for another doesn't necessarily mean that we wold eventually fall in love with that person. So, really, they are not part and parcel of the same thing. Many, many marriages have gone down the tubes because they were founded on nothing more than a sexual urge. If that's all an individual wants from another person, they may as well go and buy some. There are plenty of meat markets around, and it would save two lives at least from ruination. Message: 68339 Author: John Bergmann Category: In search of Subject: users! Date: 08/06/90 Time: 15:42:30 Call Orion's Castle BBS at 483-7088! Online games, messages, files, etc. 24 hours a day Message: 68340 Author: $ Jeff Beck Category: Answer! Subject: the Dunciad Date: 08/06/90 Time: 17:20:16 It isn't a real word reversed. I think it originally was coined to refer to the "era of dunces", but I liked the way it sounded and decided to apply it to the book of dunces. Message: 68341 Author: $ Sandi Marlin Category: Chit Chat Subject: love vs. lust Date: 08/06/90 Time: 18:23:36 I'm one of those people that everyone always tells their darkest secrets to because they know I won't tell anyone else, so I've heard plenty of stories on these subjects. I can't think of a single case among all my friends where lust led to love, and in fact, not one of them ever spoke of being especially lustful towards the person that they professed to love. Instead, they were attracted to other people, all the while insisting how much they "loved" the first person, even, occasionally, when they were being unfaithful. It seems to me, at least among my young friends, that there is no apparent connection between lust and love. Message: 68342 Author: $ Jeff Beck Category: Chit Chat Subject: astrophysics Date: 08/06/90 Time: 19:53:23 Here's something: use these formulae if you wish to calculate the orbital velocity of a body in circular orbit, given its distance from Earth, or vice-versa: Vo = K/SQR(r), where Vo is the orbital velocity in km/sec, K is a constant equal to 630.517, and r is the distance from the orbiting body to the center of Earth in km. Consequently, r = (K/Vo)^2 To use these formulae for other planets, stars, etc., as the center of orbit, multiply Vo by the square-root of their mass in Earth-masses. For example, if you want to calculate the orbital velocity of a moon of Saturn, multiply the result (Vo) by the square-root of Saturn's mass in Earth-masses (Saturn is 95.2 times as massive as Earth). It works great. Message: 68343 Author: $ Beauregard Dog Category: Chit Chat Subject: JB/Rest mass Date: 08/06/90 Time: 20:32:07 I don't think you ever confused them, if you know that already. The way you were describing "increasing mass" or something like that early last week, I thought that there was room for confusion. I didn't say anything, pending certainty as to your knowledge. Message: 68344 Author: $ Beauregard Dog Category: Chit Chat Subject: JB/attraction Date: 08/06/90 Time: 20:37:24 Yes, everything is mutually attracting in a gravitational sense. An Apple does exert force on the earth (and a Mac exerts even more). When you are pumping iron, you are causing a miniscule shift in the gravitational field pulling on the earth. Note, however, that there are a serious number of zeros between the decimal point and the significant part of any such attraction. Yes, two equal masses, at rest with each other, would, given no other acting forces, accelerate equally toward each other and meet in the middle. Message: 68345 Author: $ John Cummings Category: Chit Chat Subject: Rod/Hell Date: 08/06/90 Time: 21:25:36 Please let me make a few points, because they are germane to this discussion. First, I don't want to convert you to anything ore convince you of any spiritual program. By the same token, please do not invite me to abandon my beliefs. Second, I cannot follow your thought re: teaching of hell warps a child's mind. Please read what I describe as Hell, and then reflect: abuse from a pervert, or rape of a young virgin, or death as portrayed in some chain-saw massacre movies (and many other instances) would be far more serious an attack on a young mind--just describing them, that is. Third, Hell is the absence of God, and it is not a punishment d upon a sensitive child--it is the choice of the individual. If he chooses not to accept God, he gets no God, Hell. If he chooses God, he gets God, heaven. The choice is always there, and it is the person,. not God, who makes the choice. (Similar to your credit rating: the credit bureau doesn't make it; you do. The bureau just reports it. If I had to teach my kids that there is no truth except scientifically prove, I would be a poor father, indeed! What of Love, Truth, Beauty, Justice, just for starts? God, Heaven and Hell are just as obvious, just as reasonable, as the tulip bulb and the Bird of Paradise tree. Please accept these as my positions, partly. Don't make up lies about me to attack, okay? --John C-- Message: 68346 Author: $ John Cummings Category: Chit Chat Subject: All/Capturing Date: 08/06/90 Time: 21:32:09 Well, fellas, for the past three days I have struggled mightily with the damn Telix program, ruined four disks, (lucky I keep backups, and I don't use one without making another), and I finally "captured" about fifteen minutes of time on good ol' Apollo. But I can't make Telix read it back to me! And I can't use the "editor" part of Telix. So I jumped out of Telix and had DOS scroll it for me, but Ctrl S would not stop it, so I couldn't read it. (Only Annie and Clif read that fast!) So I dumped it on to the printer and got twelve pages of mostly garbage which I would not have saved, really. Mad Max, you're the authority who got me this far! Is there a way for me to read what I have caprured on the screen before I copy it to PRN? Message: 68347 Author: $ John Cummings Category: Chit Chat Subject: Rod/paranoia Date: 08/06/90 Time: 21:34:00 I have also noticed that Rod seems kind of up tight and tense about the subject of Hell. Could there be some paranoia there? He seems to have a concept of Hell that would make a chimpanzee scared, really. Message: 68348 Author: $ John Cummings Category: Chit Chat Subject: All/love Date: 08/06/90 Time: 21:39:24 Just a comment on the sad and tragic picture that Jeff L and Sandi and Annie have pointed to: I have met several men (?) who claim that "women really like to be beat, and sex after the beating is the best!" I was raised in the same moral code as Jeff L., and the Mad Max and I share the same attitude. I have never struck my wife, and I think I would inject myself into the situation if I saw a man beating a woman. I can't explain those "men" I mentioned in the first graph, but they are there. I also can't explain the women who go back to those men time after time, after beatings. --John C.-- Message: 68349 Author: $ Jeff Beck Category: Answer! Subject: John C./Telix Date: 08/06/90 Time: 21:57:43 Here is the way I do it: There are two buffers in Telix; a scroll buffer which holds the last dozen or so screens you have scrolled through, and the capture buffer which can be of various small sizes; as soon as the capture buffer fills, it is stored to disk automatically to whatever filename you have designated (or the default if you have not designated a name, that being, I believe, TELIX.CAP). Each time your capture buffer fills, that data is added to the cumulative file on disk. When you close the capture buffer or exit the program, th file is closed. You cannot see what has been captured back beyond the point where the scroll buffer has filled, because the scroll buffer scrolls (that is, when it is full , new data replaces old data.) The captured data is not actually in memory anymore, it is in a disk file, so you must use a text editor to read it. If your text editor isn't too large, you can use the shell to DOS command while online and examine the capture file. This would be an enormous waste of system time, however. I log off, and then load the file into my word processor. I can then save whatever sections of it I wish. One more thing; if you don't erase the capture file after you are done with it, Telix will add to it, not overwrite it, the next time you use Telix to capture data. You can concatenate a rather large file that way, and it's a pain in the behind waiting for it to load. Message: 68350 Author: $ Jeff Beck Category: Chit Chat Subject: astrophysics Date: 08/06/90 Time: 22:03:58 Oh, BTW, the orbits of the heavenly bodies (as far as one can generalize) are ellipses, not circles. But they are so close to circles that, if one uses the average distance of the orbiting body from the body being orbited, the formulae I gave are quite accurate for most purposes. I calculated the Earth's velocity around the Sun using the formula, and then calculated it by dividing the circumference of the Earth's orbit by Earth's orbital period, and the difference was about 86 miles per hour. Also, and this is very important, the distance between the orbiting body and the body being orbited is measured from center to center. This doesn't make much difference between two bodies like the Sun and Earth which are 93,000,000 miles apart, but would make a big difference if you were finding the orbital velocity of a satellite, and used the distance to the surface instead of the distance to the center of the Earth (the Earth's radius plus the distance from the satellite to the surface). Message: 68351 Author: $ Jeff Beck Category: Chit Chat Subject: Beau/thanks Date: 08/06/90 Time: 22:09:04 Thanks for answering two of my questions (and quite well, I might add). Now, can you help with the questions I raised in message #68315 and #68322? The questions involved the definition of force, the proximity of particles to one another, and so-called centrifugal force. Message: 68352 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Chit Chat Subject: John/hell Date: 08/06/90 Time: 22:22:02 I'll answer you in mail. Message: 68353 Author: $ Rod Williams Category: Religion Subject: Religion Date: 08/06/90 Time: 22:22:50 The Christian religion has its roots in the middle eastern countries. Jesus was a Jew and resembled the Iranians and Iraquai people. The dress of 2000 years ago remains the dress of today in those countries. It is strange that the people of the middle eastern countries do not embrace Christianity, rather they are Islam, Hindu and Moslem or of a few other assorted beliefs. Egypt with a population of nearly 55 million is 93 percent Islam with a mere 7 percent claiming Christianity. I understand why Mexico, the dark people are mostly Christian and that is because of the brutal Spanish conquerors and their maniac priests who together pushed a religion of control down the throats of the people. I guess the people of Mexico thought it better to conform than to be tortured till dead. It is strange that in the world of today that the Christian religion is one for the white man and not one for the land Jesus was said to have dwelled in. One would think that the effect would have been much more pronounced there than say, America or England. All the Spanish ever did with it was to pillage and torture and put to death those that said something foreign to that belief. And in America and England this religion continues to be one of control of the masses aside from the huge profits that it reaps on a continual basis. Message: 68354 Author: $ Gordon Little Category: Chit Chat Subject: Busy board Date: 08/06/90 Time: 23:05:49 I've only been gone nine days, and some of the messages at the beginning of my trip have scrolled off the system already. WOW! Have to read this offline and respond to one or two items later... Gordon Message: 68355 Author: $ Gordon Little Category: News Today Subject: Kuwait Date: 08/06/90 Time: 23:08:01 From yesterday's paper: Mohammed Sadiq al-Mashat, Iraqi ambassador to the United States, read a government statement reiterating Baghdad's intention to begin withdrawing from Kuwait "unless a threat to the security of Kuwait or Iraq has re-emerged". How's that again? A threat to the security of Kuwait? From whom, I wonder... To send mail to operator use First name:JOHN Last name:CUMMINGS Send mail to John Cummings:Yes Enter a line containing only an <*> to stop 1:Both you and Daryl seem to think I am paranoid of this hell that you 2:Christians believe in. Let me assure you that the more ignorant the man the 3:more they believe in such rubbish. If I feared this hell that you hang onto 4:would I say things such as: 5: 6: The holy ghost eats dead dog dicks. 7: 8: God created AIDS by butt fucking Jesus. 9: 10: 11:In addition, John, let me assure that if there was a pimp god as you 12:describe and it tried to put ANYTHING in for punishment of any type, even to 13:the point of ignoring (being without) what it created then I would pick the 14:little bastard up my the scuff of the neck, spit in His face and rub it in 15:the dirt. 16: 17:I am now shaking in my boots because I may have to spend an eternity without 18:this god you speak of. My, my. -Rod 19: 20:Sure I fear hell and gee whiz. I zapped my previous mail to Cummings and replaced it with this: Mail to John Cummings Date: 08/06/90 Time: 23:10:00 Your and my belief systems are totally different. My wife and I are currently raising seven of our eight children. They are much to beautiful to have their minds spoiled by lying to them about an eternity of ANYTHING. There is absolutely no substantiation of what you believe in and why should I tell them this nonsense? Sure, they will see the flowers and some of the other beautiful things on and above this planet but just what this has to do with your belief system is beyond me. It appears, from what you express that this book, the bible is something that you read. I have read it many times when I was checking out this countries religions. But it is ambiguous to say the very least and at that I am being kind. I would not show any of the garbage therein to my children as the entire affair is without any real substance. I refer to this book as The Babel because that is what it resembles, a book that bables without saying anything which relates to current mankind. No, I teach my children from the scientific viewpoint because at least there we humans know something. Not a whole lot, mind you but volumes more than outdated, incomplete and confusing information which came from those living in the Middle East. And today, the majority of those residing there are just as screwed up as they were two thousand years ago. I am terribly sorry that you are among those who have been brainwashed by this disease because in other areas you show intelligence. If you think for a second that I fear this hell you speak of I would be more than happy to demonstrate here in mail the blasphemies of blasphemies against your made-up deities in order to satisfy you. But if you check with Cliff or some of the others you will see that I have done so many times in the past. Rod