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1:Cliff, this evening I copied the 'JT' file, put it in an addressed envelope
2:addressed the envelope, put several stamps on it and enclosed a check. I
3:will mail it this evening. _rod
4:end
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Message: 5741
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 05:00:44
You've obviously never used a Timex-Sinclair.
Message: 5742
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Last....
Subject: Timex
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 06:03:08
Hey, buddy, Altair kicks butt!
Message: 5743
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Computers
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 11:00:42
I see there is no justice in this world! For the last two years I've heard
nothing but how awful my Tandy 1000 is as a computer! Now I'm getting it for
buying a Sanyo! I truly thought I'd never get teased again - but I see that
was wrong. I should have bought a top of the line IBM and paid through the
nose! Naw! I don't want one! This is top of the line and all I'd ever want
...... until better comes out that is! Cliff/Sandy -- PLEASE don't buy
anymore new goodies in the near future! I will end up in the poor house for
sure. Seems I want everthing you get! -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 5744
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Question?
Subject: Dinner
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 13:29:43
Why can't I come to the dinner and midnight swim?
Love Ya
Ralph
Message: 5745
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ralphy/last
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 08:05:36
You can come to a midnight swim at my house anytime baby! Trouble is ... I
know when you go to bed and get up! --- godawful hours! Ha. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 5746
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Computers
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 14:18:13
Youse guys haven't lived if you've never logged onto a BBS using an RCA
Cosmac single board computer. That's what I was using when I first logged
onto Cliff's new TRS80 BBS seven years ago.
Message: 5747
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 18:34:02
Only geeks used RCA telecomunication devices.
Message: 5748
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 21:44:36
You must have had several.
Message: 5749
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: James
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 05:40:01
How about bums?
Message: 5750
Author: $ Jeannie Innajug
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: computers
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 07:03:42
Gee.......................Annie.................
Will this new machine know how to spell??????
See Y'aa..............
Jeannie
Message: 5751
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Jeannie/last
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 08:19:36
It will not spell any better than this computer does. (sob) But it will
certainly look prettier. I'm counting the days. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 5752
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Annie/last
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 11:46:36
But, Annie, you told us all that looks weren't everything. And, where's
your loyalty to the poor, faithful pile of electronic junk that has kept you
on line these past couple of years?
Message: 5753
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 03:08:20
Her loyalty is where it should be ..... on the "NEW" computer.
One must always be ready to shed the old to make way for the new .....
Message: 5754
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Gary/my computer
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 07:28:30
This poor, faithful pile of electronic junk I'm going to sell for $1,200!
All kidding aside, I've loved this computer and it has done it's job well. I
just want to go on to bigger and greater things and this one is limited. But
one of the major reasons I did not buy an up-graded Tandy is Radio Shack
it's self! The software is poor and scanty at best and none of the personnal
knows one hoot about any of it! Also, the parts and the repair work is too
high and you're at their mercy. I.E. One time I wanted to buy an up-graded
keyboard on sale for $70 - a great buy. But then I found out the comverter
that fit on the end of the cord cost $168. That to me, is false advertizing
and I passed. They also are false on the software in general. They lead you
to belive most of the stuff has been converted for Tandy - they just put a
sticker on the cover and charge more. For one thing - it does not have to be
converted because it's IBM compatable. Their software is so limited because
they will not carry IBM. But the computer itself, I have no complaints at
all. I bought from Cliff because I trust him - he will support me and give
me help when I need it. Besides, he has the very same system and that speaks
for itself. Wanna buy a good computer? Ha ha. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 5755
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Sandy/last
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 07:29:53
If that is the case - PLEASE tell me how I can shed this old body and face
for new ones? Wish it was as easy as getting a new computer. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 5756
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 08:25:40
Re: "how I can shed this old body and face for new ones?"
Huh? And all this time I envisioned you as a young sexy babe!
Well, like Sandy said,
"One must always be ready to shed the old to make way for the new ....."
Message: 5757
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann's Computer
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 12:23:49
The Good NEWs is Ann has bought a new Computer System!
The Bad NEWs is it is not in yet....
The Good NEWs is some of the parts have arrived (Monitor, Hard
drive)
The Bad NEWs is they sent the *wrong* controller card and it won't work.
The Good NEWs is I called Mini-Scribe and they are Fed-X-ing out the
correct controller card for the 42 meg (very fast too) Mini-Scribe.
The Bad NEWs is Sanyo is shutting down this week for inventory.
The Good NEWs is they were suppose to pull one out for me before
inventory started.
The Bad NEWs is Sanyo has not yet confirmed shipping of the 17+ one MEG AT.
The Good NEWs is Ann is very patient.....
The Bad NEWs is if she ain't...the PHANTOM ZONE for her!
The Good NEWs for the rest of you is that this post is over! -
Message: 5758
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Ann/shedding
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 00:52:05
Edward Gein is the one to ask about shedding skin. He did quite a
bit of that sort of thing in Wisconsin .............
Message: 5759
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ann/last
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 00:55:06
Please disreguard my mentioning to you to disreguard the post in
this sig by Cliff in my letter to you.
Cliff's post was too cute to ZAP ........
Now, on with life, heh?
Message: 5760
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: Bob/young
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 06:43:21
I am a "Young sexy babe"! In mind! (sob) -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 5761
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Believe it or not!
Subject: Sysops
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 10:20:52
Bug! Bug! Bug!
Message: 5762
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cliff/Ann's computer
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 11:40:12
Somehow, I expected this.
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Message: 2362
Author: $ Mike Howerton
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: reality
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 02:31:08
Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.
Message: 2363
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Roddy/spirits
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 11:03:35
When one of those 'several spirits' take over and it's an Arnie type ---
--- be sure and let me know. I'll be over. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 2364
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 15:22:32
....... or in the shape of a 'VO' bottle .......
Message: 2365
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Doodle
Subject: Just a doodle
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 08:25:12
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Message: 2366
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 11:49:56
Caption:
Yummmmmmmmm...........Love them birdies!!!!!
Message: 2367
Author: $ Mike Howerton
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: that doodle
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 13:14:20
Did that cat have a goatee?
Message: 2368
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Mike/last
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 07:32:55
That is no goatee - that's a collar. -=*) ANN (*=-
P.S. How's the pool playing coming along?
Message: 2369
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Review/Critique
Subject: Art/cat
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 00:57:37
Nice drawing, Ann.
Message: 2370
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cat
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 06:04:12
looks like the one you have.
Message: 2371
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Ralphy/last
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 10:17:35
Neither Sandy or I have a cat. What were you refering to? Heh. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 2372
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Poetry
Subject: a poem
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 10:51:38
ODE TO MENTAL HEALTH
The office is quiet and deserted.
No life is anywhere to be seen.
The one that use to be in there all of the time,
Has turned sour pussed, cranky and mean.
In fact, she doesn't even want to play any games,
Or use the word processor, the data base and such.
Police Quest, King's Quest doesn't interest her at all.
Nor Gapper or Lode Runner does she want to touch.
Everything has become so slow and tedious.
Only 16 colors to work with - how tiring, boring and droll.
If something doesn't come about soon and fast,
She'll just go outside and jump in a hole.
The ancient rack and the pains of hell could not be any worse,
than the horrible torture she must go through,
waiting, waiting, ever patient.
An eternity - for 'you-know-who'!
A patient person is not me!
Won't you show a little mercy?
Dedicated to: You-know-who
Message: 2373
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: The last
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 10:53:08
I only hope that last poem does not mean a trip to the Zone.
-=*) ANN (*=-
P.S. I kept my PROMICE!
Message: 2374
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: PRO MICE
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 11:42:05
What do rodents have to do with it?
Message: 2375
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Cat drawing
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 11:42:23
I hate cats.
Message: 2376
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Todd/OK OK
Date: 08/05/89 Time: 08:42:25
'PROMISE'! Is that better? XXOO -=*) ANN (*=-
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1:You could have made that drawing into a nice Satan. Love that guy.
2:end
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Message: 3302
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Cliffy
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 16:27:34
Just in case anyone didn't know, Cliff can't take a joke.
Message: 3303
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Toady
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 18:17:15
Just in case anyone didn't know, Todd can't take a joke.
Message: 3304
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Last two
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 21:11:55
I thought it was that Todd couldn't Make a joke.
Message: 3305
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: last
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 23:09:36
No, you're thinking of James Hawley.
Message: 3306
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Last two..
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 23:42:16
No, No, Todd is the JOKE!
Message: 3307
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: LAST
Date: 08/05/89 Time: 16:22:43
Ha!
Message: 3308
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Last...
Date: 08/05/89 Time: 16:40:23
Come to think of it...he is one too!
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1:Okay, so now he is a member of this SIG and what in the hell does he have to
2:say with his first post. "Ha"......gee did that take you a while to type or
3:what?
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Message: 282
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: GT
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 13:20:02
OK NOW DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Message: 283
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last few...
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 13:48:07
Okay, it will be a go for the GT sometime on the last weekend of Aug.
Afirmatitty!
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
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1: What if I'm dead?
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Message: 60092
Author: Jeff Carver
Category: Question?
Subject: Petrisko
Date: 07/29/89 Time: 22:12:12
Let me guess...he sent you a picture of himself, and asked that you do the
same, because he likes to know who he's talking to (or some such).
Message: 60093
Author: Jeff Carver
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: pool safety
Date: 07/29/89 Time: 22:21:39
It is obvious that pools kill. Since their function is trivial, rather than
essential, it is clear that pools should be banned in the United States.
Of course, when pools are outlawed, only outlaws will own pools.
They'll have to pry my cold, dead fingers out of my pool when I drown.
I'm the NPA!
Pools don't kill people: substandard fences kill people.
You can't hug your children with nuclear arms.
I think there should be a one-year moratorium on the importation of pools
into this country. Domestically manufactured pools, however, are OK.
Friends don't let friends dive drunk.
Just say no to water.
Safety first: wear a life preserver, no riding on the bow, please deposit
empty containers in trash receptacles.
Message: 60094
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff on us guys
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 06:33:04
God giving you us guys as users might have been His answer to a prayer for
patience. That'll teach you! That's one thing you never pray for, unless you
want yours tested!
Too late for the sound mind train, I think. Maybe you can still catch the
next one on lack of timidity. THen you can sign off as the "bold" Apollo
Sysop.
Message: 60095
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff on us
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 10:54:58
If you were a Catholic - I'd venture to say, we are your 'Penence' for your
sins of the past! Perhaps your Pergatory?! If so, just say your 'Beads'
nighty for about a year and you will be absolved. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60096
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul on "bold"
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 11:16:56
I told you once God had it in for me.... (grin)
As for signing off as the 'bold' Apollo SysOp, the closest I can
come to that would be:
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Message: 60097
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Ann on poor old Clif
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 11:20:51
Pergatory! ??? I just knew I should have buried you deep within
the 'Phantom Zone'. As for 'beads', I never play with such stuff.
SysOp
Message: 60098
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 13:59:14
Re: "Let's go out for a drink sometime."
I'd love to. I might have a large lock change in the near future. Maybe we
could get together for lunch.
Message: 60099
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jeff Carver/Pools
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 14:00:42
You have a good sense of humor.
Message: 60100
Author: $ Peter Petrisko
Category: Answer!
Subject: ANN
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 15:26:26
In letters, Gacy comes across as quite sane. Immediately after his
arrest there was much talk about "split personalities", with Gacy claiming
'Bad Jack' did the killing, and he (meaning Gacy) would wake up in the
morning to find a freshly raped & strangled male corpse on the living room
floor. Gacy claims he buried the bodies because he wasn't going to take the
rap for something 'Bad Jack' did.
This claim is questionable at best. Experts' opinions were
inconclusive, and Gacy's lawyers wouldn't let their client take the stand.
Interestingly enough, Gacy all but drew a map to the corpses with his
last killing. Whereas his first 32 victims were male prostitutes &
runaways (for the most part), the last victim lived in his neighborhood and
there were witnesses who saw him with Gacy immediately before the kid
vanished. (The kid went looking for Gacy, as Gacy had offered him a summer
job in his construction business.) According to Gacy, this was his way of
setting up 'Bad Jack' to stop the killing. According to the police, Gacy
got overconfident & sloppy.
In any case, Gacy was convicted of multiple counts of murder, and is
serving a multitude of life & 21 year sentences. Gacy will never be
paroled, no matter what Bush said in his dirty campaign tactics.
I started writing to Gacy after running across his address in the
"Celebrity Address Book" at the library. (He was listed right after Zsa Zsa
Gabor.) The fact he was a clown, paints Disney characters & other
children-type paintings fascinated me considering he murdered young men.
Gacy refuses to discuss the murders with anyone.
Message: 60101
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: Brown (Spaz)
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 17:09:22
For those of you who remember Heather (Spaz) Brown when she ruled
Apollo several years ago, and missed the July 23RD (Sunday) Life & Leisure
in the Arizona Republic that she wrote "California steamin':By car to the
Coast" as part of the Zonie Report from San Diego, I have posted the text of
this in the [L]ibrary under the name 'ZONIE.TXT'. It is listed there as
well and if you forget the exact name, use the [S]earch cmd and enter the
word 'SPAZ' as the search string, or Heather, or Brown.... etc.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60102
Author: Darryl Green
Category: Answer!
Subject: 3-d
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 18:45:29
We handle all 3-D camera sales at (602)968-9764.
Message: 60103
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Storm
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 22:44:12
Wow! Lightning all over... lost my phone for a while. Had some
real bad noise problem that I hope has gone away by now. (Note: I am
calling this Phoenix zone line from a Glendale zone line to test for noise)
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60104
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Apollo Trivia
Subject: 7th B-Day
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 22:51:16
Apollo BBS came on line 7 years ago (July 31st).. and it was born
during a lightning storm as well.... Happy Birthday Tom R. Slone...
Happy B-Day Apollo...
Now do we go for 8? This last year has been rough with me losing
the store and all. But I am pleased to say the crisis seems to be over
financially, if we can just keep or get a few more good hard core users.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60105
Author: Kenneth Tiernan
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Petrisko/Gacy
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 00:37:19
It shouldn't be all that surprising. There are two primary factors in such
a dichotomy (murder of young boys vs. clowns, Disney, etc.):
One is the obvious possibility that such behavior was a deliberate disguise
dictated by his criminal cunning. If you are going to avoid conviction, you
must avoid suspicion. This was done by the selection of strangers as
victims, and by appearing to be a lover (in the platonic sense) of
children.
A further possibility, is the well known phenomenon of the "Imp of the
perverse." What is more evilly perverse than such a contrast?
Compare Gacy to Jimmy Swaggert.
Message: 60106
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Peter/Gacy
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 08:02:27
Thanks for the info. It does sound like he's crazy - unless it's all a show.
-=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60107
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: The SYSOP Speaks
Subject: Phone line noise
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 13:17:21
I have called special services repair to have my line checked out,
as there seems to be lots of noise since last nights storm. Looking at the
[U]ser log in the [M]ain menu has me believeing something is wrong.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60108
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: losing the store?
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 19:39:39
I thought you gave it up!
Message: 60109
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: line noise
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 19:40:13
Whatever caused it, it had nothing to do with water. It was probably a
short to ground.
Should be fixed by about now...
Message: 60110
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Phone line
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 19:46:00
There was a short to ground, had nothing to do with water....
They are now fixed... One hell of an Apollo B-Day!
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60111
Author: Steve Hodode
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: anger
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 20:06:14
If any psychologist or psychiatrics will tell you
that angry people are dangerous, then he should also tell
you that anger is an emotion. Also that every emotion
has a threshold trigger that when passed causes the
individual to react to the external stimulus around him.
That thru continual excitation of the threshold trigger
an individuals threshold can be lowered to the point
that he reacts to stimuli normally ignored. Therefore
angry people can be created by the environment and people
around them. Using these premises an angry person is
reacting to a dangerous environment around him/her.
So anyone can be made dangerous even if he/she is not
predisposed to such emotional reactions.
Message: 60112
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff????
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 05:42:33
"Hard core" users?
Now you are looking for porn stars or something? WHat has Apollo come to?
Message: 60113
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sysop.line noise
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 05:45:05
No kidding! I tried yesterday morning and couldn't believe the garbage! THen
I tried again in the PM, and had the privelege of talking voice with Sandy
through the modem. Interesting, if not too clear. Glad to see that all seems
to be well again in Apolloland.
Message: 60114
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sysop Cliff
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 06:02:03
Re: Line noise ... that must have been what was the matter with those two
uploaded posts I put in the Pet sig. eh? -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60115
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul on Hard porn
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 08:49:16
No, No, No..... Hard Core BBS-users... you know, ones who will log
in almost every day and jump into almost every debate or mud slinging
contest.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60116
Author: Mike Carter
Category: Answer!
Subject: last
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 11:09:07
You need more Ev Mecham's then.
Message: 60117
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: War!
Subject: Dean Hathaway...
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 13:40:49
Just kidding.... No real "WAR" here, but just a quick post to let
you all know that I got a 480 on my shoot this weekend...that is the very
BEST one for me so far out of a possible 500. I know Dean will question
this, and tell everyone I am wrong.... but I can live with that.
Paul may even say I had my gun in my mouth.... (grin) Bit I can
handle that one as well....
*=* the 'VERY Mighty' Apollo SysOp *=*
Message: 60118
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Politics
Subject: Hung! ?
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 13:45:22
I am surprised no-one has said anything about the American Marine
that had been kidnapped, was hung by his kidnappers. Should we just sit
here and say "Oh well..." and let it go , or should we use our military
muscle, and get 'REVENGE'? Any input from our Washington user, Mr J.T.?
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60119
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 15:36:11
I disapprove of both kidnapping and murder.
Message: 60120
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Last on JT
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 15:52:35
So we should do nothing is what you are saying. Right?
Turn the other cheek!
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60121
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: murder and kidnappin
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 16:31:44
I'm with JT on this one.
Note that he DID NOT say that we should turn the other cheek.
Message: 60122
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 18:37:06
Looks like the Israeli's have their own form of Sheik N Bake.
Message: 60123
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: The SYSOP Speaks
Subject: Blush!
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 19:22:38
Well I can't blame the bird for this one. I was testing a new
keyboard on Apollo, and went though all the function keys... Well the last
one I hit was [F10] and that my dear users puts Apollo up to 120%
((SHIELDS)). With that in effect, only SysOps can log in. A feature I use
when I am testing a new cmd on line and I don't want a user getting in
before I do. Anyway, the key board test went okay, but... I forgot to put
the ((SHIELDS)) back where they belong, at 10%. Sigh! Blush! Sorry!
I see this got Bob Thornburg and Robert Simpson.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60124
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Answer!
Subject: Steve
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 19:58:42
I know it's probably an old fashion idea, but People can control their
anger. One does not have to lose his temper.
Message: 60125
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Politics
Subject: Cliff
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 20:01:11
Re: "Should we just sit here and say "Oh well..." and let it go , or should
we use our military muscle, and get 'REVENGE'?
I vote for 'REVENGE'!
Message: 60126
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 20:02:45
Re: "I see this got Bob Thornburg and Robert Simpson."
And here I thought you were doing something intelligent!
Message: 60127
Author: Wendell Jones
Category: News Today
Subject: false-ads
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 20:22:31
A federal judge has awarded 10.4 million dollars in damages to Alpo
Petfoods after ruling that Ralston Purina made false advertising claims
touting the benifits of its Puppy Chow. Ralston said its Puppy Chow diet
helped reduce the indidence of degenerative joint disease and canine hip
dysplasia, which is incurable.
"With the exception of Ralston's own faulty research, there is no valid
scientific support for the proposition that the nutritional balance in a
dog's diet can affect" hip joint conditions, U.S. District Judge Stanley
Sporkin said in a 54 page ruling.
Sporkin also found that Alpo made false claims when it advertised that
veterinarians preferred its
product 2-1 over the leading brand (made by Ralston). Sporkin said the
firm "lacked substantiation" for the assertion, which was based on a company
survey. Sporkin didn't order Alpo to pay damages, but he enjoined both
firms from engaging in false advertising.
Ralston spokesman Patrick Farrell, who claimed that the judge failed to
grasp the facts, said that the decision would have "a chilling effect on
corporate research" if allowed to stand.
Sound at all familiar?
Message: 60128
Author: Wendell Jones
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Whither weather?
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 20:26:44
Hurricane Dean, which will develope presently near the Cape Verde Islands,
will move northwest to strike the southeast coast of the U.S. around August
23.
Message: 60129
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hostage solution
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 21:44:01
Here's how we get all our hostages back:
Dear Muslim Terrorists:
Return all hostages within 48 hours or we nuke Mecca.
Sincerely,
USA
(It'll work, believe me.)
Message: 60130
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mike Carter
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 21:48:21
I thought you weren't coming back to Apollo.
Message: 60131
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hostages/Lebanon
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 23:05:11
So, how come we haven't heard about these guys in the past 6 months? I
guess Bush was too busy banning assault weapons to care about some hostages.
Anyway, why don't we do like the Soviets (yup, the did SOMETHING right):
When they had a few of their people taken hostage in Lebanon a couple of
years back, they found out who was directly involved (not as hard as you
might think), and grabbed a bunch of family members of those who had
participated in or lead the hostage taking efforts. They grabbed about
three times as many of the family members as Soviet subjects that were
kidnapped.
THEN, they started torturing those family members, and let this information
be widely known in the fanatic circles in Lebanon. The Soviet subjects were
promptly released, upon which the Soviets released the SURVIVING family
members they had grabbed.
THEN, (yes, it gets better) using information from the now-released
hostages, they tracked down most of the hostage takers and had them
assasinated, leaving only a few participants in hiding to retell this story
from their side. Needless to say, we haven't heard of any Soviets taken
hostage lately.
Hmmm.....maybe the Israeli's are really being very civilized about this.....
Message: 60132
Author: Greg Chambers
Category: News Today
Subject: Hanging
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 01:34:31
Obviously the terrorsits have won both rounds 1 & 2.
Not only have they achieved national and international news media
attention, they have everyone MAD, ANGRY, and DISGUSTED.
That's exactly what they wanted. Just like a little child aggrivating
the parent into a mad spite of anger over the childs actions.
The Kid just wanted some attention *AND* a reaction. Well, they got it.
Amazing. I thought these Apollo users were supposed to be immune
to acts of terrorism and its tactics.
WHat should we do?
Tough question. My standards of morality will undoubtably conflict with
many, including the whitehouses's.
A quick fix is to "Nuke them until their scarabs glow". WHat will this
achieve? Wolrd peace? I doubt that. The French will probably post
a protest..the whole European consortium of wimps will ban Americans
from travel and Russia will stop advances in Glasnost if we Nuke 'em.
I have a better idea. Build a 900 foot steel & concrete wall around
these countries that engage in such tactics and blow everything out of the
sky and water that enters INTERNATIONAL space.
Quarrantine their holier than thou assetts.
Exclude them, with extreeme predjuduce, from the international community.
They'll be begging to emmigrate before the wall is completed.
-Greg
Message: 60133
Author: Greg Chambers
Category: In search of
Subject: Cliff's score card
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 01:47:14
Great going, I wonder what range?
There's a CWO3 in my area that was a Korean war Sniper who claims
he killed 3 men at 700 yards with a .30 cal carbine. After that,
he says, his C.O. appointed him to warrant and he was given the task
in conjunction with working for C.I.A agents, of Battallion Sniper.
Mike Claims his score at the range is slightly below average, and
doubts that it has any conflict with his claims due to his age.
I'm outta here in 3 weeks. Tektronics in Oregon picked me up for a little
over $2.50 / hr on what I'm receiving from Uncle Sam now as a G-12
with the U.S. Govt. Perhaps I'll log in long dist...although it may be
quite some time before I can do that as I'm considering purchasing a house
and that will be an enormous step for me. I'm selling off my computer
to the "boss" at work and wont have anything to communicate with
until I purchase another. (The money will come in handy).
Well, I'm in good spirits and I hope Oregon will be a little more
hospitable as far as cops are concerned. (I'll be FIGHTING the ticket
comes next Wensday).
I was told that if the cop who issued the ticket doesn't show, I'm off.
I'd rather FACE the sucker. I'd like to hear his testimony. I know I'm
innocent and will fight!!
54mph baloney!
With Extreeme PREDJUDICE, -Greg Chambers
Message: 60134
Author: Ed Brace
Category: Politics
Subject: Taranto/60119
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 02:17:02
It occured to me that James Taranto was uncharacteristically reticent in his
comment. This puzzled me, until I realised that he was simply emulating his
political masters, and their art of ambiguous rhetoric.
When asked what he thought of the current crisis, and (implicitly) how we
should respond, his reply was "I disapprove of both kidnapping and murder."
Interestingly enough, this statement can be interpreted two different ways
depending on your viewpoint. Those who condemn strong action and who
condemn Israel will interpret it as a form of disapproval of Israeli action
and, in fact, any retaliatory action which the U.S. might take outside of
the normal channels of law.
However, if popular sentiment eventually proves to be in favor of Israel,
and in favor of strong, necessarily unconventional action by the U.S., he
can always say that his statement refered to the actions of the terrorists,
who, after all, kidnap and murder as a matter of ordinary operating policy.
Perhaps Mr. Taranto would care to elucidate his position.
Message: 60135
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff/hard core user
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 05:49:13
Does that mean that you really do love me after all?
Message: 60136
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Cliff/480
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 05:50:37
480 out of 500?
You mean that you wasted 20 shots?
Tch, tch, tch!
Message: 60137
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Politics
Subject: Lebanon
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 05:58:08
I think it's about time the wimps and gutless wonders who run this country
said "ENOUGH!" to the bands of hoodlums in the third world countries.
My idea is simply this, and we have the fire power in place to do it.
Have a bomber flyover of every Muslim temple in the country of Lebanon, and
one over the city of Beirut every 15 minutes around the clock. WHile we are
doing this, inform the Lebanese that they have exactly 24 hours to release
every American hostage within their borders, or their beloved country
becomes a parking lot. THen, should they resist the order, show them that
the "great Satan" is a country who keeps it's word.
I am so sick of hearing about good Americans sacrificing their lives for
causes so far removed from anything relating to our way of life that I
almost hate to pick up the morning paper any more.
It's about time to show these terrorists that they are messing with the
wrong patsy, and if Wimp Bush & Co. won't do it, maybe we ought to get
somebody in there who will. The hell with all this diplomacy crap! You can't
negotiate with animals! Why try? The only language they understand is a
bigger club. Let's use one! NOW!
Message: 60138
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Question?
Subject: Wendell Jones
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 06:01:20
Is this the same Wendell Jones who works (or used to) for Frito Lay's?
Message: 60139
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Answer!
Subject: Cliff/kidnapped
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 08:07:40
I think we should use our 'Political muscle' - not a military one! That is,
if we HAVE any political muscle! I also don't believe in 'Revenge'. It
usually backfires. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60140
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: James/Sheik N Bake
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 08:14:39
Now that was very funny! Did you make that up yourself? -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60141
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nuking
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 08:17:11
I hope all of you were joking when you said we should Nuke that country for
the kidnapping! -=*) ANN (*=-
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Category: Bulletins
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Message: 60143
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Paul on Love?
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 10:19:56
I am not sure 'love' is the word I had in mind...but yes, in so many
words..... (Grin)
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60144
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: 20 shots...
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 10:32:03
Heck no, If I had wasted 20 Shots the score would be a lot lower.
Fact is, I did not hit the silhouette exactly right. Remember this is
defensive shooting from differant angles and distances in a very few
seconds. Example... In one we have to drop to the kneel and shoot two to
the body in 2 & 1/2 seconds. Then you have to hit within an area for ten
points, another might get you a nine, and another a seven... or a ZERO. You
do not have a black bulls eye to shoot at. Most bad guys refuse to wear
them anyway.
In another one we have to shoot two, then do a total reload and
shoot two more. You have 12 seconds to do this in... And you must
have good hits to get any points.
This is not a slow fire course where you have pleanty of time to
take a good aim. This is combat/defensive type shooting.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60145
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: kidnappers/murderers
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 11:44:29
I don't want to nuke Lebanon, I'd just like to get all of those Hesbollah
fanatics all kneeling on their prayer rugs facing east and put a .357 slug
in the backs of their heads. That's my political statement.
**** Gary ****
Message: 60146
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Terrorism
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 17:34:46
I agree with Kielsky. To the extent possible, I favor a strong, brutal
response to those who commit acts of terrorism. I applaud Israel's
actions.
Savage, however, is proving as true to his name as his namesake, Rep. Gus
Savage, D-Ill. To call for the murder of innocent people is evil enough,
but to call for the bombings of places of worship is downright satanic.
If we are going to bomb Muslim temples to punish terrorists, then Moslems
would be equally justified if they were to bomb Paul Savage's church in
retaliation. Perhaps they don't have the power to do this. But surely,
Paul, you are not suggesting that might makes right. Or is it OK to kill
anyone whose religion isn't the same as yours?
Message: 60147
Author: Michael Kielsky
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: U.S. react/Lebanon
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 20:35:50
Here is my suggestion:
The U.S. needs to assemble approximately 12 teams, each composed of 4-6
highly trained and motivated individuals. Every individual on these teams
is to have a seperate specialty in counter-terrorist action (i.e. weapons,
communications, explosives, etc.). These teams are to be independent and
have no knowledge of the other teams.
After thorough training and detailed briefing, these teams are to be
dispatched with a few specific goals, to be carried out as best the
individual teams see fit. Such goals might include the assasination of
specific targeted leaders, the apprehension of individuals for later trial
in U.S., the locating and forcible release of hostages.
The teams are to be very independent, depending on the U.S. only for an
occasional infusion of funds to procure arms, supplies, transportation, safe
houses, etc. In addition, the tactics employed by the various teams should
differ sufficiently to keep the enemy off base.
The advantages to this approach are that few if any innocent individuals
will be hurt, the U.S. can overtly disassociate itself from the teams'
activities, the expenses will be trivial, the success should be great, and
the teams' effectiveness should increase with time. The disadvantage is
that the teams will have minimal direct supervision (or micro-management).
Message: 60149
Author: $ Dean Hathaway
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Cliff
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 22:54:50
What gives you the idea that I would dispute your scores? They would only
be in question if I considered you to be a liar, which I do not.
See You Later
Dean H.
Message: 60150
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Dean Hathaway...
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 00:28:50
It was only a 'JOKE'...... Geesh!
Besides, ask Sandy or call the school...
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60152
Author: Greg Chambers
Category: War!
Subject: Rag Heads
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 02:31:11
According to local news briefs, Iran has little if any true government,
few U.S. contacts, and those are very un-influential, a rabble army
and very little organization.
SO what we are left with is a few bone-heads "Bagging for money" any
foreign diplomat ..preferrably U.S. since we don't shoot terrorists.
They've gone from Hostages for demands to Hostages for Holy money..
supplied by other groups who'll pay the individual(s) money to keep
the hostage.
My Question is why for the love of God, do we even HAVE an embassy
or diplomats over there in the first place?
That's like placing chickens in a fox pen. Is there anyone who can
supply a rational reason , if not official reason for this?
Here's the scenario: Here's 15 important men. We're placing them in
your Government-less country to talk about peace. If you capture
them we'll do little. If you kill them we'll send the 6th & 7th
fleets over to intimidate you. If that doesn't work, we'll blow a few
of your airlines out of the sky and then pay the living relatives
60 grand apiece for the priviledge of doing so.
If that doesn't convince you to stop grabbing hostages, we'll send over
15 more and start again.
Isn't that special?
Test the Titan's on Tehran. Let's see if the Soviets applaud us then.
-Greg
Message: 60153
Author: Greg Chambers
Category: Answer!
Subject: Killing
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 02:40:13
HEre's a moral dilemma for you majors in ACTION vs NEGOTIATIONS.
Question # 1:
Would, if the event dictated, you kill your wife of loved one to save
the lives of ten others? In this action, you can argue it by the
action of ignoring your wifes needs to take care of the ten..and she
dies...something you considered. You have foreknowledge that if you
attempt to save the 10, she will almost certainly die.
Question # 2:
Would you vote in a survey by the WHitehouse (HAH HAH HAH) [Consider this
as if they *DID] to blow Iran into a large parking lot, no holds barred,
total and complete annihilation to prevent and stem further and continued
outbreaks of jet bombings, hostage taking and murders over a period of
time?
Would you vote (YES! Nuke the Rag-head bastards)
or
would you vote (No ! Try diplomacy again.......)
Question # 3:
Do you beleive that given the track record of diplomatic relations in the
past, that a tactical and surgical strike on terrorist base camps will
(A) Worsen the occurences of "terrorism"
(B) SLow it down
Message: 60154
Author: Greg Chambers
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Continued from last
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 02:47:14
(C) HAlt terrorism completely
(D) Repeat history from the F1-11 bombing on Lebanon.
Question #4:
Do you beleive that the nation of Iran is composed of;
(A) 80% ANti-American nationals
(B) 100% Anti-AMerican Nationals
(C) 10 % Anti-American Nationals
(D) Your choice percentage here
I beleive that:
Question #1: I'd save my loved one.
Question #2: Nuke them after they kill another hostage.
Question #3: D
Question #4: A
So my last Question, #5 is:
Is it justifiable to kill 100% for the 80% rotten eggs ?
-Greg
Message: 60155
Author: Greg Chambers
Category: Question?
Subject: Rod Williams
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 02:49:10
RE: Concepts of reality with burbon.
He said if YOU have an aversion to reading your messages under the
influence of alcohol, try reading them straight. Either way you
get a "buzz".
Message: 60156
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: JT/Terrorism
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 05:40:05
If I read the terrorists correctly, and we followed the scenario I
suggested, we would not have to drop one bomb or take one life.
To date, all we have done is mouth words, and not very strong words at
that, at least not to the terrorist mentality.
However, if they could hear the roar of a hundred American jets flying over
their precious homeland every 15 minutes around the clock, and were told in
no uncertain terms that they had X number of hours of life left unless they
released every American under their hand, I really believe that we would see
some of the fastest Arabs the world has ever seen. I think that just the
heavy threat of retaliation would be sufficient.
In the final analysis, what have we to lose? Diplomacy certainly isn't
working. If they believe in the heavier club rules, let's show them who has
the biggest guns!
Message: 60157
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Paul/last
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 07:10:39
That wasn't what you said the first time! -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60158
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: War!
Subject: Gary on diplomats
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 07:16:56
I too have often wondered why we have embassys in countries like theses.
We're just asking for trouble. It would be safer to hold diplomatic
relationships at a distance and not put people in a position for kidnapping
and hangings. Iran needs to 'grow up' and if and when it aquires a sane
government, then we can have physical contact. -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60159
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Savage
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 07:45:31
Do you know what a Surface to Air Missile is?
Message: 60160
Author: Dale Wilson
Category: Answer!
Subject: Savage/60138
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 07:55:09
No.
Message: 60161
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Michael Kielsky
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 08:12:52
I liked your solution to the hostage/terrorist problem. I would like to
point out one big mistake though.
Re: "the apprehension of individuals for later trial in U.S."
Most of our courts today are a joke. There is very little justice if any.
Even terrorists could buy their way to freedom. History, even recent
history, proves this to be true. You got the money; you walk. You don't
got the money; you do time. Being guilty or not guilty usually has little
to do with it.
Message: 60162
Author: $ Bob Thornburg
Category: Politics
Subject: Personification
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 08:20:48
All this talk about our politics in dealing with terrorist has caused me to
think of a perfect personification. Our foreign policy for dealing with
terrorist and even other events is best personified in Gerold of the Wallace
and Ladmo show.
What more needs to be said?
Message: 60163
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Savage
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 15:35:40
What you are advocating is that the United States become just like the
terrorists, only on a grand scale. In effect, you want us to take the
entire population of Lebanon hostage, and threaten their murder if our
demands are not met. In the first place, this is morally reprehensible.
Justice is not served by threatening the murder of innocent people. In the
second place, it is tactically foolish. What if the terrorists call our
bluff? Are we really going to turn Lebanon into a "parking lot"? If we do
not, the message to the terrorists is that they have nothing to fear from
the United States. If we do, we have committed one of the worst atrocities
in history. Your plan only works if the terrorists do not call our bluff;
if they do, the results will be disastrous no matter what. And even if you
plan were successful, there is no reason to think its effects would work
forever; sooner or later there would be more terror, and we'd be forced to
do the same thing again. And eventually, one of the terrorist groups would
call our bluff. You really ought to sit down and think about the
implications of the policy you are proposing.
Message: 60164
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT ???
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 16:03:28
So what is your answer? Sit back and let them hang a few more
Americans? Or should we pay them a million for every American they don't
hang?
Why is it, we the most powerful country in the world let little 3rd
world nations walk all over us, is this what we get for being civilized?
Maybe we should just knock the snot out of them and be done with it
as talking does not seem to work.
Just a few thoughts... from your SysOp!
Message: 60165
Author: $ Ronnie Phillips
Category: Bulletins
Subject: August OPEN HOUSE
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 16:34:29
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Message: 60166
Author: Tim Tam
Category: News Today
Subject: Hostages
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 19:32:16
Naaaah.....what we really need to do is wake up and get out heads out of the
sand....and behave like the superpower we are supposed to be. How many
Russian hostages have been captured lately? Seems like we Americans (and the
Brits and French) are the ones who are always getting picked on. When this
country shows some muscle and actually backs up what it says by its military
might, the hostage ordeals will be over. As it is, we are content by simpl|i
saying, "Please give us back our hostages". Oh well, we still have a lot to
learn, don't we?
*-*Tim Tam*-*
Message: 60167
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Religion
Subject: Prediction
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 19:38:13
Message: 60128
Author: Wendell Jones
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Whither weather?
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 20:26:44
Hurricane Dean, which will develope presently near the Cape Verde Islands,
will move northwest to strike the southeast coast of the U.S. around August
23.
So, Cliff, how can we keep this from scrolling??? - Beau
We will try Mr Beau - *=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 60168
Author: Bob James
Category: News Today
Subject: trash and food
Date: 08/03/89 Time: 21:34:32
Two truckers, their faces hidden behind screens, told members of Congress on
Wednesday that it has become common for trucks that haul fresh food to east
coast supermarkets to return with a load of fresh refuse. They estimated
that hundreds of trucks a day "backhaul" baled municipal refuse from New
York to Ohio along Interstate 80.
"It's a dream commodity," one witness said, "because you're not responsible
for anything."
A photograph of trucks lined up at a landfill near Youngstown, Ohio, clearly
showed some refrigerated units that run the other direction with meat and
produce from Midwestern farms and stockyards bound for east coast
supermarkets.
"No one in my area can run them back empty and stay in business," said the
vice-president of an unidentified trucking firm. "We believe that as long
as trucks are steamed out before loading, they are safe and sanitary."
If trash cargoes are banned, he predicted (threatened), food prices will go
up.
Yep.
Message: 60169
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Answer!
Subject: Michael James
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 05:40:03
Yes Michael, I know what a surface to air missile is. I also know what fear
is, and that is the main weapon of the terrorists. It is also the only
language they understand. We are not necessarily dealing with well armed,
albeit rational people here. We are dealing with a bunch of rag-tag,
wild-eyed hoodlums. As a rule, they do not have access to such sophisticated
weaponry, and it is dobtful that the government of the contries involved
would support them to the point of launching missiles in defense of their
"holy" cause. I think the government, in self defense, would put the
pressure on the terrorist factions to release hostages, and quickly.
Message: 60170
Author: $ Paul Savage
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Taranto
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 05:46:05
Of course my proposal is morally reprehensible, J.T.
But then, what would you call the murder of American citizens in order to
make a point with Israel?
It's sort of like dealing with the Missouri mule. You have to treat them
with kindness and understanding. First, however, it is necessary to get
their attention. To do this, you get the biggest club you can find, and
whack them right between the eyes.
If the only language a band of terrorists understand is the language of
fear, that's the language in which to communicate with them.
Message: 60171
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Question?
Subject: Paul/last
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 06:42:05
But why would you want to kill (slaughter is more like it) hundreds of
thousands of innocent people because of what some idiot terrorist group did?
I say the answer is to take ALL Americans out of that country - stop ALL
exports - all help in any way. Just maybe if their government suffers they
will do something themselves - which is their responsibility anyway. I
wouldn't be surprise to find that this country ships them weapons. And I'm
sure we send them grain and produce.
Boy. Am I glad your not the president! We'd have a nuclear war at the bat of
an eye! -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 60172
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Question?
Subject: JT
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 11:35:23
Specifically, what kind of military retaliation would you recommend?
Message: 60173
Author: $ Todd Reese
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Mecca
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 11:37:40
After thinking about it, threatening to destroy the muslim's most holy place
wouldn't be very nice. I do, however, think a military strike on military
installations would be in order.
Message: 60174
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Savage
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 15:38:54
The murder of a few Americans is a crime of far less magnitude than would be
the murder (or threat to murder) millions of innocent Lebanese. The
terrorists deserve to be treated with the same brutality that they show
toward the innocent. That means we need good intelligence on these people,
so we can single out those responsible and deal with them swiftly and
harshly. Military action is also appropriate against nations that
perpetrate terrorism; the attack on Libya in 1986 is an example. I think
there are ways to combat terrorism without setting out to kill innocent
people. If there were not, the answer would be to do nothing.
Message: 60175
Author: Jim Niven
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Britannica
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 21:30:06
I was reading a short article in Britannica about the Coriolis effect. I
came across the following statement:
"...the angular velocity of rotation of the Earth is a function of latitude
(the velocity is essentially zero at the poles and it attains a maximum
value at the equator)."
Now aside from being redundant ("the angular velocity of rotation"), it is
manifestly false. Each and every point on the Earth has an angular velocity
of 2pi radians/24 hours, or 360 degrees/24 hours, if you prefer. It is the
linear velocity which varies with latitude in this manner (objects on the
equator must travel through a greater distance in the same time as objects
at the pole, and therefore must travel faster).
I thought I might convince the people at Britannica to give me a new set, in
exchange for this information. Alas, the edition I discovered the error in
was printed in 1975, and subsequent to that time, the error has been
corrected.
Message: 60176
Author: Jim Niven
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hezbolla
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 21:32:53
Gosh, what a surprising developement. We poise our warships off the coast
of Lebanon and the Hezbolla kidnapper/terrorists decide to "have mercy" on
the kidnap victim who was to have been executed.
Message: 60177
Author: Beth Schatz
Category: For sale
Subject: Computer items sale
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 21:39:04
Due to recent upgrades, I have the following equipment for sale;
Model Capacity Avg seek Cyl heads Encoding Price
---------- -------- -------- --- ----- -------- -------
Atasi 3046 37 MB 35 ms 645 7 MFM $220.00
hard disk A full height drive suitable for an 'AT', 'XT'
or ?? computer.
Model Capacity Avg seek Cyl heads Encoding Price
---------- -------- -------- --- ----- -------- -------
Microstorage 15 MB 60 ms 612 2 RLL $440.00
hard disk Price includes 3 15 MB cartridges (value $90.00 ea)
Additional items and Prices:
----------------------------
Adaptec 2072 $ 65.00 1/2 length RLL disk controller (brand
new) with docs.
Tandy DWP-220 $200.00 Daisy wheel printer with tractors
(parallel interface)
Leave E-mail or call 602-943-1181
Note: If you are located within a reasonable distance of North
Phoenix installation is included with the drives and controller.
Message: 60178
Author: Beth Schatz
Category: For sale
Subject: Only love you can by
Date: 08/04/89 Time: 21:41:28
THE ONLY LOVE MONEY CAN BUY!
... a pet that would follow you around, share your food,
and as a bonus: maybe even talk to you! A HANDFED LOVEBIRD!!
What is a HANDFED lovebird, you ask? A handfed bird
is taken away from the parents at two weeks of age. After that,
it is fed by its human "parent" and so it grows up thinking it
is a small human! Handfed (not just hand tamed) lovebirds are
so sweet you just have to see them to believe them. All the
companionship of a dog or cat minus some of the worry.
Lovebirds are about 6" long, and come in a variety of
beautiful colors; the green, blue and peach normals; the regal
green, orange and black masked; and the bright yellow and hot
pink (and rare) lutino. They are very intelligent and can be
taught to do various tricks, such as waving and giving kisses.
I have several of the larger parrots; and the little lovebirds
rank right up there with them in spunk and curiousity at a
FRACTION of the cost.
Call 943-1181 for more information.
Message: 60179
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: I Passed!
Date: 08/05/89 Time: 14:13:39
I graduated with 'Distinction' from the Intermediate hand gun course
today within 9 points of first place. (Yes, your SysOp took second place)
(Better not piss him off unless you took first...... ha ha ha ha ha... Just
a joke... I repeat!!!!! * A JOKE * )
*=* the 'Deadly, but harmless' Apollo SysOp *=* (really just a Lover)
Speaking of 'Jokes'... where is Todd!
Message: 60180
Author: Mike Carter
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Hezbolla
Date: 08/05/89 Time: 20:41:27
Isn't it amazing what 328,000,000 tons of warship intmidation can do?
Bulletin Board command:JN
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Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:$C
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Message: 503
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod/last/shit
Date: 07/29/89 Time: 22:04:15
Good! Then maybe you won't try kissing me.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 504
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 05:02:28
Hitler used to eat shit.
Message: 505
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Rod/shit
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 11:05:12
What's worse than shit? -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 506
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Ann, Answer!
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 11:24:10
Why Ann, the answer is starring you right in the face. Why it's
"Rod Ka-ka"..... Worse stuff in the world, and you get it every time you
read one of his posts!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha......
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=**=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 507
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Shit
Date: 07/30/89 Time: 13:17:44
Do you eat what you shit,or do you shit what you eat?
Ralph The old shit
Message: 508
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Cliffy on Ka ka
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 08:09:42
Sorry my Sysop, but I must correct your spelling. It isn't 'Ka Ka' - but
it's 'Ca Ca'! Like in 'Do Do'!' -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 509
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Ralphy on shit
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 08:11:29
The true answer is ... 'Everything you eat turns to shit'! -=*) ANN (*=-
Message: 510
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 22:12:05
Not true. Swallow a small pebble. Sift through your feces pieces for the
next couple days and see what you get.
Message: 511
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 07/31/89 Time: 23:17:35
Why does that seem like an experiment only you would enjoy?
Message: 512
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 03:52:45
Not me, you must be thinking of some other pervert.
Message: 513
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last on pervert
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 08:51:32
Well, at least he does admit he is a 'Pervert'.....
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 514
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Last
Date: 08/01/89 Time: 12:31:08
Card carrying.
Message: 515
Author: $ Ralph Blehm
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: All
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 06:24:01
Shoot them all.
Message: 516
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Shit-Chat
Subject: ON ......
Date: 08/02/89 Time: 08:28:32
.... Rod! He's disappeared again. He must be shifting through his fecal
pieces again! I can't believe I said that! Anyway - come on back Roddy goddy
-=*) ANN (*=-
Rod, God & Bob Bulletin Board command:ES
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Enter a line containing only an [*] to stop
1: Did you know that if shit did not exist then neither would life as
2:we know it. Shit nourishes that which we eat.
3:
4: Did you know that a ton of shit is worth more than a ton of gold?
5:At least it is for the survival of the life on this planet.
6:
7: Did you know that an alter of shit would be more effective than any
8:other alter. Think about it.
9:
10: Did you know that I am outta here.
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