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Message: 3962
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Tom Slone & Creep!
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 18:01:11
Some A$$ Hole logged in on Classic Apollo as "Mark Adkins" and left
some stupid posts and mail. I will not put up with this $#!+.....
It scrolled off classic posts and mail for crap! First off, do not log in
under someone elses name... I do not find this funny... this particular
Jokester was SICK, and I think I know who it is... One of 3 people anyway.
I hope the perpetrator leaves me mail and appologizes, or this will be the
last time CLASSIC Apollo ever comes on line....
Speaking of CLASSIC Apollo, it is online tonight for the last time
this year (Maybe forever) with an older disk (since the other one got
screwed up with crap).... See the argument about the "Constitution"....
But log on under your real user name.... Let's keep Classic Apollo Clean!
P.S. If the phony Mark Adkins that left those posts on Classic Apollo
leaves me mail, nothing will be said and all will be forgiven if that person
promises to stop logging on as other people.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 3963
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: last
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 09:22:22
It was not me.
Message: 3964
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Tom Slone
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 11:03:16
Is now shut down.... thats all folks, he will not be returning!
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 3965
Author: $ Lloyd Pulley
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Phantom Zone
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 11:32:11
Cliff,
I learned a long time ago, not to volunteer for anything. But if
everyone was in the Phantom Zone, then we wouldn't miss this base or any o f
the others...we could have all of our conversations there.
(LL)oyd Pulley
P.S. The caller to the Classic Apollo wasn't me neither.
Message: 3966
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit-Chat
Subject: Mark Adkins
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 17:37:49
I'm sorry, Cliff.
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1:Yeah, I got a death threat in mail from Adkins on Classic Apollo. Needless
2:to say, it opened old wounds and I did not sleep well.
3: Cliff gets an apology and I don't? You're sick.
4:In fact I had NOTHING to do with the prank and didn't find out about it
5:until it was over. For that I get threatened by the real Adkins. Mark is a
6:sicko.
7: I sure didn't need that.
8: Rod
9:end
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Message: 3968
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Get-Togethers
Subject: Old-Fart GT
Date: 08/03/88 Time: 00:10:59
How about a GT for users 40 and over.....
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
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1: Forty what?
2:end
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Message: 1705
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer !
Subject: Nick/Ann/Rod
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 21:22:56
Ann-
Rod is right. Nick is just trying to play with your mind. He actually has
a 1975 AMC Gremlin with a 4 cylinder engine. Why else do you think he came
in Cervelli's truck?
Message: 1706
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Question ?
Subject:
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 23:26:42
Why are all the bi-sexual, extremely horny women...SOOOO hard to find?
Message: 1707
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Ann, Rod, And James
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 01:57:49
Eat my black dust.
Message: 1708
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: James/Nick's car
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 05:49:01
Sorry James, but I've seen Nick's car and it is not as you discribed. IT was
quite beautiful and NEW! To be honest - whether my car would beat his is
beside the point. I am like a little old lady with my car! I protect it and
hover over it like a child and want it to last because I know I will not get
another like it in this lifetime! I would not want to race for fear a pebble
would pit the paint or windshield - hell, I don't even want it to get dusty.
It is an extention of my ego and I do not want it damaged. =*--ANN--*=
Message: 1709
Author: $ Beauregard Dog
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Ann's car
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 08:04:36
Yeah, right, that's why you almost ran over a kid on a bicycle.
Reverend Beauregard Jackson Culpeper Dog, Colonel, CSA, retired
Message: 1710
Author: $ Zak Woodruff
Category: Cosmos-Chatter
Subject: Nick
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 09:24:38
Nick, I do dabble in the art of babble. It's certainly more entertaining
than your complaining. Go home!
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1: My six cylinder Dodge Van can beat that piece of crap you drive.
2:Remember, the good guys drive white and you know the rest.
3: Rod
4:end
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Message: 53418
Author: $ Steven Carls
Category: Answer!
Subject: Amsterdam
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 18:28:02
It seems to be working in Amsterdam. I was told to stay away from one
street because thats where the herion users shoot up. Again, many people
said if someone is using drugs in the streets just leave. Its basically
common sense. I also noticed is the Red Light District, the sleezy part of
the city, there were many policemen around. I saw more police there than I
have seen in South Phoenix, had less people come up to me and ask for money,
and no hassles from anybody. I talked to some people who had been
approached by drug dealers, and they just kept on walking. I haven't met
anyone who felt unsafe to walk the streets alone at anytime. I wish it was
that way here, EH??? Also the prostitution is run differently there. The
government has windows on the street where the ladies show there wares, but
the have to wear bikinis or ligerie(sp). They rent these window room, with
red lights, for $100.00 a day. They charge around $50.00 a trick. Whereas
the U.S. legel Ladies charge $300.00 an hour. However, the U.S. Ladies are
required to take precautions against dieases, and are tested regularly for
diseases. Anymore questions, EH???
" The ATARI WILDCAT " Steven Carls
Message: 53419
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 19:18:15
Holland is not a very religious country at all. I believe somewhere around
25-30% of the population consider themselves to be humanists.
Message: 53420
Author: Dan Deacon
Category: For sale
Subject: MICROWAVE OVEN
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 20:39:05
Wards .57 Cubic Foot microwave oven for sale ... perfect for a small family
or single people. Used little, about 1 year old-- great condition, getting
rid of it 'coz I've got another one... bought for 260.00
Message: 53420
Author: Dan Deacon
Category: For sale
Subject: MICROWAVE OVEN
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 20:39:05
Wards .57 Cubic Foot microwave oven for sale ... perfect for a small family
or single people. Used little, about 1 year old-- great condition, getting
rid of it 'coz I've got another one... bought for 260.00
selling it for $150 OBO... call 867-5856
Message: 53421
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: last
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 01:51:40
I might be interested. Just how long does it take to cook a small family?
Message: 53422
Author: $ Nick Ianuzzi
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Amsterdam
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 01:55:04
Mayor Edward Koch (Of New York) was having lunch at a cafe in Amsterdam a
couple of weeks ago, and became enraged upon hearing that marijuana and
hashish were openly sold there. He said that if that were to happen in his
presence in New York, he would call the undercover cops and have the place
busted.
Message: 53423
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Amsterdam
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 05:40:07
It sounds like a step in the right direction. I wish we would start taking
forward steps on the drug problem. We never seem to learn from other
countries. People smoke marijuana and will continue to do so no matter what
the laws are - the same as they did with drinking during proibition. As far
as the other, more harmful drugs - they also need to be legalized, but
perhaps differently. For a start - we could at least legalize it enough to
give to dying cancer victoms that no other drugs will combat their pain.
Here again, other countries do this with out reprocussions to their society.
What IS the difference between Morphine and heroin for pain relief anyway
Both are addictive and so what if a dying person becomes addictive?
As far as other drugs - that would have to be worked out. Perhaps give it or
sell it cheaply to proven drug addicts. Just maybe, if they didn't have to
spend all their time stealing to feed their habit, they might become a
productive society member. As JT has pointed out - legalizing drugs will
cause a few new addicts, but I don't think it will create a formitable
amount. Take away the glamour and many would also give it up. What would be
the status to have a party and give out Cocaine if it's dirt cheap and easy
to come by? =*--ANN--*=
Message: 53424
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: JT/Your Macro
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 09:48:45
Seems fitting for someone who doesn't wish for their head to become
overcrowded with knowledge. Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance is strength.
Message: 53425
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/Drogos/Amsterdam
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 09:59:45
I think the idea is great. Instead of this futile screaming of "JUST SAY NO,
LITTLE BOBCAT!", let the people who want to ---- up their minds and bodies
do so, and do so cheaply. If they deem themselves to be so worthless as to
destroy themselves this way, then let them do it quickly and let the rest of
us move on. In Smitty's, next to the wines of the world ($1.99), they could
have a "drugs of the world" department ($3.99 and up). And then they could
make sterile syringes an over-the-counter product, and give the
pharmaceutical industry a real "shot in the arm." Drugs are just like top
forty music. They're cheap and destructive to functioning brain cells, and
yet the mindless masses listen to it anyway. (Can you imagine working in a
record store, and having at least three kids a day come up to you and ask,
"Hey, you gots that song what's called 'Pull Your Panties Down'?" Violently
depressing.)
Message: 53426
Author: $ Daryl Westfall
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Nick/Koch n' Amster.
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 10:04:38
What a weenie. If he was as tough as he wished he was, perhaps you could
walk the streets of NYC without having to carry a weapon along with you for
protection. Um, Mr. Koch? I think that drugs are a bigger problem to the
populace in your own STATE than they are in the entire COUNTRY of Holland.
And what were you doing in Amsterdam anyway? Restocking your private stash?
Message: 53427
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Drugs
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 10:24:25
Maybe drugs are not legalize in the U.S. yet for the same reason
that solar power is not widely used.........
Until the BIG oil companies can market the sun for a price the use
of solar power will be discouraged. Until the BIG phamaceuticals have the
controling market in 'illegal' drugs the use of 'illegal' drugs will still
be illegal.
Just a thought.
Message: 53428
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Commercial
Subject: Closing down...
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 11:07:10
This is the LAST month fer sure......
Are you ready to deal? We still have good IBM and Atari ST software, and
even some hardware left.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 53429
Author: $ Steven Carls
Category: For sale
Subject: Modem
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 11:20:45
I have a Hayes 300 baud modem for sale. It is 3 years old, and if you have
an 8 bit ATARI, a free cable comes with it. I am asking $50 or Best Offer,
EH??? Leave mail, if interested to Steven Carls.
Thanks
" The ATARI WILDCAT " Steven Carls
Message: 53430
Author: $ Jim Lippard
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: pharm
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 11:43:29
The big pharmaceutical companies DID have monopolies on drugs that are now
illegal, and that didn't prevent them from becoming illegal. Sandoz Labs
invented LSD and was the sole manufacturer until it became illegal in the
late 1960s. Heroin was invented by the Bayer Company in W. Germany.
Message: 53431
Author: $ Michael James
Category: Question?
Subject: Sandy
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 13:31:39
How is the use of solar power discouraged?
Message: 53432
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 16:41:01
By putting a very high price on it..... And being told it won't do
the job. And on channel 8, being told it took $15,000.00 to run ONE light
bulb (60watt).... A lot of bull (or was that $25,000.00)
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 53433
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Westfall
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 17:35:47
Shut up already, pig-dog.
Message: 53434
Author: $ James Taranto
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Solar power
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 17:36:32
Let's get a panel of bright people together to discuss this.
Message: 53435
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Steven
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 17:57:06
Thanks for the info. What you are telling us is the Amsterdam
hookers have to turn at least three tricks a day in order to make a profit.
Message: 53436
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Jim
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 17:58:42
Want to have a GT and go see the new movie about Jesus? Sounds fun.
Message: 53437
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Dan Oven
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 18:01:30
I recently purchased a brand new Sharp Microwave Oven for $150. from
the Warehouse on Washington. It has a digitial display, you can press in
the different cooking tempatures, it has defrost and the food rotates.
Would you take $40.?
Message: 53438
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Westfall
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 18:05:05
Careful there, weapons in New York City are also against the law.
Message: 53439
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Sandy
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 18:07:41
I agree with your drug message. Since we are a capitalistic nation,
and the big companies here do not have control, they are against it.
Besides, they may be making money from it the way it is now. Organized
crime, anyone?
Message: 53440
Author: $ David Burkhart
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Rod/Sandy
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 19:15:17
I'm not sure what you mean by the "same problem will basically exist." If
you mean that drugs will still be illegal, you're right. Drugs are illegal
in the Soviet Union, for instance. So the thesis that drugs are illegal
because big companies can't make money at them is nonsense (and, of course,
they CAN make quite a bit of money on them).
Message: 53441
Author: Tara Reynolds
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: HI
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 20:06:25
Hi. Shawn are you at there??????
Hi zak.
Hi Bone head
Hi big sister Michelle I love you
Hey everyone else!!!!
Go skate or go home
Bye
Message: 53442
Author: $ Gary Jones
Category: Question?
Subject: Legalization of Drug
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 21:55:40
Perhaps the subject "Legal Drugs" needs to be looked at with some
sort of historical perspective. The legalization of alcohol is a
good comparison. For thousands of years, wine and beer making
was a family affair. The advent of distilled spirits and
commercial distribution of wines from Europe in the 17th and 18th
centuries began driving the old family methods out.
In this country, the Federal government began taxing distilled
whiskey in the late 1700's. The small farmers who were the
nations distillers were the people most directly affected, and
they immediately put up a fight. The Whiskey Rebellion was short
lived, because the government wasn't about to let such a
lucrative source of revenue go.
Commercialization and competition caused the spread of cheap
whiskey and gin in the mid 1800's. Poor people, refugees from
the Industrial Revolution, turned to cheap whiskey as a form of
escape. Of course, excess in any form always brings a reaction
from those opposed, so the Temperance movement of the late 19th
century soon made drinking and drunkenness a moral issue. (Its
amusing to see that anti-alcohol forces called their movement the
Temperance movement when it was anything but temperate.)
The Volstead Act made the consumption of ethanol illegal.
Immediately a criminal class arose to exploit the situation, and
the "great Experiment" was finally terminated in 1933 after
nearly wrecking the law and order establishment. Since Repeal,
consumption of alcohol, taxed to the hilt, has risen only in
proportion to the nation's population increase.
Drug usage in this country has a somewhat similar history, except
that its Prohibition hasn't yet been repealed. Opium and
marijuana were legal at the turn of this century. Hashish, or
Indian hemp, grew wild throughout rural areas until after WWII.
When I was a kid in the midwest in the 40's, we used to dry
"Indian tobacco" on the tin roof of the tool shed, and smoke it
in lieu of tobacco. Nobody went to jail for it, but then, nobody
was really abusing the stuff like they do today. (At the same
time, my Uncle Charlie was distilling several gallons of white
lightning every month for personal use, and nobody got excited)
Drug abuse, like alcohol abuse, brings out the worst side of the
moral majority. They mean well, but they throw out the baby with
the bath water. Perhaps the nation's crime wave would slow if
addicts didn't need to steal to feed their habits. But also,
if society were truly responsive to the individual. people
wouldn't need or want to trip out on mind altering substances.
Today, we're caught in a war being waged against us all. On one
side, in an unholy alliance, are the moralists who want to
abolish drug use for our spiritual good, and the drug czars, who
don't want to see their profits slip when drugs are legalized and
controlled. On the other side is arrayed a conglomerate of
liberals, libertarians and freethinkers, along with a huge group
of rebellious hedonists with no ideology except a will to fight
whatever establishment there is.
There doesn't seem to be any easy answer. Legalizing drugs will
upset the bible pounders, and the Colombian drug lords.
Criminalization of drugs causes ordinary citizens to fight the
very society that is established to promote their own welfare.
No political liberal can really expect that the welfare state can
exist if a large proportion of the public is stoned out of their
minds all the time. A society without workers can't support
charity, welfare, and assistance for the disadvantaged and poor.
Instead of railing against "the government", can someone out
there suggest how we can let loose of the tiger's tail, and
safely decriminalize marijuana and hard drugs? Legalization of
mind altering and addictive drugs will work only if the people
who use them do so in moderation. A government "of the people,
by the people, and for the people" ought to be responsive to the
people. The forces that oppose drug legalization are the moral
fringe and the criminal elements instead of the average citizen.
Quo vadis, junkie?
Gary Jones
Message: 53446
Author: $ Pat Stoddard
Category: News Today
Subject: Dukakakis
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 22:20:05
(From Tuesday's *Phoenix Gazette*)
Massachusetts planned to day to borrow another $200 million so it could
pay its bills, an indication that Gov. Michael Dukakis's revenue projections
are falling short, officials say.
The loan marked the second time since the beginning of fiscal 1989 on July
1 that Massachusetts has hd to borrow money to meet day-to-day obligations.
The first loan was taken out July 5 and is due Monday.
(If you vote for Dukakakis, watch out!)
Message: 53447
Author: $ Apollo SYSOP
Category: Entertainment/Movies
Subject: DIE-HARD
Date: 08/03/88 Time: 00:09:23
Far out..... Lots and lots of action. Sandy and I went with Mike
and Vicky Carter... had fun and it was worth the $5.50 ticket price.
*=* the 'Mighty' Apollo SYSOP *=*
Message: 53448
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: David
Date: 08/03/88 Time: 01:01:21
I'm afraid my message wasn't too well worded......when I was writing
it, I was cooking from the heat and my skin was crawling, I just wanted to
finish it, sorry.
A friend visited me this evening, he had just received a letter from
his friend in Amsterdam. He said that drugs were okay there as long as you
were not caught 'rolling a joint' in public. If you were, you would get a
ticket, much like Lippard indicated, equivelant to a traffic ticket. Other
than that, they were okay.
They have been at that system for ten years and their country is
doing just fine. If you can't find work, the government will go to great
ends to see that you do not starve or go without a dwelling.
Their social problems are mild compared to ours. One would think
that the U.S. would have checked it out and copied it after all this time.
There is a 'rat' in there somewhere because we have a terrible problem with
drugs, terrible to the point that our country is doing flip flops and losing
a great deal. The fabric of this country is being torn over it.
We can either put 25 million people in prison (and prisioners do
lots of drugs) or we can do something intelligent such as what Amsterdam has
done.
What do you recommend?
Rod
Message: 53449
Author: $ Rod Williams
Category: Chit Chat
Subject: Gary Jones
Date: 08/03/88 Time: 01:07:28
I simply LOVED your reply, it also belongs to a wider audiance than
this BBS. BRAVO!
Rod
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1: I agree with your drug message. Since we are a capitalistic nation,
2:and the big companies here do not have control, they are against it.
3:Besides, they may be making money from it the way it is now. Organized
4:crime, anyone?
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5: This nation being capitalistic has nothing to do with what I had to
6:say....no matter what flavor a nation is, the same type of problem will
7:basically exist.
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Message: 51
Author: $ Sandy SYSOP
Category: Mighty SYSOPs
Subject: Last
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 22:36:09
Was this a show and tell or did you give her a book to read?
Message: 53
Author: $ Ann Oudin
Category: Annie the ASSp
Subject: Rod darling
Date: 08/02/88 Time: 06:01:16
Can you imagine the nerve that Mike Farter has in implying that I am not
pure and sinless. And he used that filthy word 'BULLSHIT'! I'm not even sure
what that means. Perhaps you can give me another lesson Rod Dear! Heh heh
heh! Say in your van about midnight? =*--ANNIE the ASSp--*=
P.S. Have you noticed by chance that JT has not written any messages on this
sig. Do you think that he thinks he is not 'Way below normal'? Maybe he
does not like his category eh?
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1: JT is not below normal but he seems to be right winged or perhaps
2:while he is JN to a SIG, that, like me,
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Subject:JT
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1: I just looked at JT's category and if I were he, I would not get on
2:this SIG either. I have NEVER found JT to be a bore in anything. We have
3:had some good times together and he is basically a fun person. With his new
4:job and all, I think he needs all of the confidence he can get, I would.
5: Rod
6:end
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Subject:Sandy
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1: When I was explaining to Ann about the birds 'n bees, I had to show
2:her graphically what I was talking about as she was playing the dumb blonde
3:role. Rod
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Message: 1524
Author: $ James Hawley
Category: Answer!
Subject: Last
Date: 08/01/88 Time: 02:49:34
It must have been a clerical error. You're not SUPPOSED to have a life!
The next thing you know you'll be wanting to move out of your parents house!