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Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ July 15, 2002 HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN] The Desire to Communicate The Tinkerer's Corner A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS Log In Problem---------------------------------------------------[LIP] Pre-KFest Chat 2002 in Library-----------------------------------[PKC] GEnie Lamp Index Sample Uploaded---------------------------------[GLI] Your Reason for Choosing to Use an Apple II Computer?------------[YRC] How do Nodes Work?-----------------------------------------------[HNW] The Internet Using Marinetti and Bernie ][ The Rescue------------[IMB] Casper, Web Hosting for the IIgs?--------------------------------[CWH] IF/Text-Adventure Fans-------------------------------------------[ITA] Inform Compiler to Compile Z-Code Games--------------------------[ICZ] Juiced.GS V7I2---------------------------------------------------[JGS] Apple Technical Reference, 2nd Edition Now Complete--------------[TRC] Email Address to Request a New Tool Set--------------------------[RTS] GSOS Support for Upper/Lower Case Letters in ProDOS File Names---[LFN] ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM July Issue of Syndicommotion Now Available-----------------------[JIS] Blocking Email---------------------------------------------------[BEM] Syndicomm Online Store Updated-----------------------------------[OSU] To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU] DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS Creating Image of Hard Drive for Emulator------------------------[CID] THE TINKERER'S CORNER-------------------------------------------------[TTC] Persistence Pays Off LETTERS TO THE EDITOR No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE] An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE] KFEST 2002 You Are Invited--------------------------------------------------[YAI] Good Food Promotes Fellowship------------------------------------[FPF] People Are Signing up for Next Year Already!---------------------[SNY] KFest 2002 Registration Information------------------------------[KFR] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. [OPN]------------------------------- HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER | ------------------------------------ From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson The Desire to Communicate ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From High Above The Rock River, the clearing in the far western sky allows the golden sunshine to creep under the cloudy sky to brightly illuminate shinny objects to the east. The many cell phone towers call for attention. This reminds us that people have an impatient urge to communicate... to talk to others that are important to them. The many family reunions that take place in the summer remind us that talking and visiting with people in person is the ultimate form of communication. KFest is the annual family reunion of Apple II users... if you have ever used an Apple II you are a member of the family. We would like you to be present at our family reunion -this- year. See the KFest section of this issue of _The Lamp!_ for registration information. The Tinkerer's Corner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Starting with this issue of _The Lamp!_ we have a new feature, The Tinkerer's Corner. Some of the projects will be very practical. Others will be fun ways of doing things that really don't need to be done. In this issue we share the story of an interesting find at one of the local thrift stores. [EOA] ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] --------------------------------------------------- DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com | (A2Central.com) | --------------------------------------------------- by Lyle Syverson [LIP] LOG IN PROBLEM """""""""""""" Since July 1, whenever I log onto Syndicomm.com using my telnet text connection, I am asked for my Password _before_ I am asked for my login name. Of course, no matter what I enter, I get the response invalid, _then_ it asks for my login, followed by my Password and all is well. Why is it skipping the login name request at first connection? Is anyone else having this problem? MT Steve (S.BERNBAUM, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 14) >>>>> """"" "whoami" or possibly "who am i" is the command to tell you what your unix name is. Your isp probably updated their telnet so it now sends your name when you do a login. With ssh, you override it with the -l flag, eg: ssh a2central.com -l a2central_login_name "man telnet" to see if there's a flag for that. Kelvin (KWS, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 18) >>>>> """"" As Kelvin mentioned, you could try the -l flag (lowercase L): telnet -l a2central_login_name syndicomm.com Your ISP's version of telnet may also support using the -K flag (uppercase K) to disable automatic login: telnet -K syndicomm.com Later, - Aaron (A2PROGEEK, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 19) >>>>> """"" I just checked out my shell telnet using the "man" command. Turns out they did change it to make automatic login the default. It also accepts the "-K" command. So, I added that to the argument stream in my Spectrum script and it now works just like it used to work. Thanks again ! :) MT Steve (S.BERNBAUM, Cat 1, Top 47, Msg 21) [EOA] [PKC] PRE-KFest CHAT 2002 IN LIBRARY """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" We have a new upload in the a2central.com_archives/Chat_Transcripts directory. File: PreKFestChat2002.txt Size: 44053 Date: Jun 25 This is a plain text transcript of the pre-KFest chat on Just 17, 2002. (A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 7) [EOA] [GLI] GEnie Lamp INDEX SAMPLE UPLOADED """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" There is a new file in the publications/genielamp.a2 directory: File: LampIndex.txt Size: 36241 Date: Jul 01 Here is a description from the uploader, copied from his post in Category 20, Topic 20 "The Lamp": I've uploaded a text file to the library (uploads section, so I don't know where it will go) that is an attempt at creating an Index to GEnie Lamp. The upload is for 1992 and the start of 1993. I looking for feedback primarily in terms of whether the format is appropriate for an index. I've tried to list any item that has multiple ways of searching for the info in more than one entry. For instance, a bug in HyperStudio would be listed under Hyperstudio, and Roger Wagner Publishing, and possibly some other entry. If this is simply too wordy, nobody would ever use it, etc., let me know and I'll just use it myself. :-) Steven Weyhrich --< (A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 8) [EOA] [YRC] YOUR REASON FOR CHOOSING TO USE AN Apple II COMPUTER? """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" For those who stated that they are still using their Apple II or IIgs regularly, are you choosing to use this computer because it's what you have and can afford, out of fierce loyalty, or out a lack of interest in learning something different (i.e., Windows or Mac or Linux) - as in "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? What is that special something about the Apple II/IIGS that makes it your computer-of-choice? Steven Weyhrich Apple II Historian http://apple2history.org (SWEYHRICH, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 19) >>>>> """"" For myself I have a number of other machines outside of my Apple II collection including a PIII-667 MHz IBM PC which my family uses for Internet/games/etc. The reason why I continue to use Apple II's is because even after 23 years since I started with them, they still are fun. Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 20) >>>>> """"" I continue to use my Apple IIs because they do everything that I need in a computer. I have used many kinds of computers, from main frames to build your own. I can use Windows or a Mac and have done so on many occasions, on jobs or helping out friends with problems. However, I don't have a need for anything that they do that my Apple II doesn't. The Apple II does what I need much faster than the Windows or Mac machines, due to lower overhead, which more than makes up for the slower processor and bus. In most of my uses, the speed limitation is due to the fingers, not the computer. ;) I use the Windows machines at the library to access the web. I find the web uninteresting and, in the main, useless to me. So, for the occasional need, the library works fine and saves me the big bucks that another computer would cost. And finally, when I want the computer to do something that it doesn't, rather than hunting for the software that will do the job and then buying that as I would most likely have to do on one of the current machines, I just do a little programming and the problem is solved. MT Steve (S.BERNBAUM, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 21) >>>>> """"" I use the Apple II not because I don't have other computers available, but simply because it's the right tool for the job. There's no way we could produce Juiced.GS on anything else at the rate we're doing and the cost we're doing, for instance. Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 22) >>>>> """"" This IIgs is a fun machine. It has been put together by myself using hardware from many sources. Sean Fahey's garage (KFest), thrift stores, garage sales, individuals on the web, etc. There is a considerable degree of satisfaction listening to the soft cackling of the hard drive salvaged from an old Mac while visiting Syndicomm Online and Delphi, reading usenet, doing email, and surfing the net. And it is only fitting that _The Lamp!_, a publication devoted to the Apple II computers, should be produced and managed using a real A2. Lyle Syverson Editor, _The Lamp!_ published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/ (LYLE, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 23) >>>>> """"" Sad to say, although my GS is still set here on my computer desk, it doesn't get fired up much anymore. It still runs well, and the HD has been humming over there nonstop for many years, I just don't seem to find much use for it any more. I got my //c in 1984 for christmas, and used it for many years before purchasing a used GS from a friend. Spent a lot of time and money on it. Well spent I might add. There are about a dozen GSs in the garage, along with the original //c and some //es. My wife would love it if I found a good home for them. :-) I've been thinking about replacing it with the Linux/BE box that I have just set up. I still have Sweet 16 running on the BE partition, so I wouldn't be losing any functionality, just old faithful herself. Anyway, I'll wait until after K Fest before I do anything drastic. If this is of any use to you, as always, you have my permission to use any of it. Dave 'Uncle Duck' Johnson (DAVEJ, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 24) >>>>> """"" I still use a IIgs Rom 3 on a daily basis, for most of my finances. I also use it for reading messages here on Syndicomm. There are several games that also fill it's time. I used it for mail for a while, but finally moved to Eudora on my Mac. I tried Web browsing with the GS, but decided I preferred more speed and full graphics on the Mac. My GS is running at 10MHz, has 8 MB of ram, uses a 17" SVHS monitor and reads messages here via a LANceGS and a cable modem. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 19 Jun 02 1:18:38 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 25) >>>>> """"" >> What is that special something about the Apple II/IIGS that makes it your computer-of-choice? << For me, it's "Spectrum", "AppleWorks", and "Your Money Matters". I use the first to communicate with Syndicomm, and the last 2 for personal finances.I have yet to find anything for the Mac that does what these do for the GS. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 19 Jun 02 2:03:23 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 26) >>>>> """"" You know I still have one at work and one at home. I still like to play some BBS games from time to time and Proterm has the best emulation around. I play chess with a guy on his board. I use appleworks. I like the feel of not having to take a monster word processor to do a kids job. I have never figured out excel or any other PC spreadsheet or database. (Well I do use dbase4 and dbaseV at work, awful program.) So if I am creating a database or spreadsheet, admittedly pretty rare I do it on my //gs. Now that my internet provider has shut off my telnet access (at least to send). I now have to read email on a pc. It means I do it less. It is very annoying to have to move that mouse around for everything. I much prefer using a keyboard to read my mail. I have one //gs set up at work and one set up at home. It mostly gets used for BBSing and telnetting and reading a few usergroups. I have not figured out how to read usergroups from my pc. You are right I hate to bother to learn new programs when the ones I have work fine. Right now I am not playing games on the apple. I used to do the old softdisk crosswords and solitaire games a lot. But now 98% of the time I use appleworks 5.1 and proterm 3.1, both installed on hard drives. Bruce (BBAKER, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 28) >>>>> """"" Thanks to all who have been kind enough so far to post their thoughts and answers to my question(s)! I really appreciate it. Steven Weyhrich --< Apple II Historian http://apple2history.org (SWEYHRICH, Cat 8, Top 1, Msg 27) [EOA] [HNW] HOW DO NODES WORK? """""""""""""""""" I've always wondered: how exactly do nodes work? CompuServe and AOL have dial-up points throughout the world. What is at the other end of those numbers? Is it a deal with the phone company where local phone numbers are rerouted to AOL HQ? Or are there physical locations in each city where banks of AOL modems are located? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 60) >>>>> """"" As I understand it, there are actually banks of modems in those cities that correspond to those numbers, tucked into nondescript rooms in nondescript buildings somewhere in the city. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 61) >>>>> """"" Banks of modems, which can be anywhere they can find space, power and enough phone lines. From there, it is piped to the service via T1, T3, or higher data circuits as needed. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 12 Jul 02 8:51:40 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 11 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 62) >>>>> """"" These non-descript rooms can exist in many different places. Some are: * Closet of a local library. In exchange for the space, the library gets free access * Telephone switch center. Companies, such as Sprint, purchase rack space in a local Bell central office or switch center. Not only is voice equipment installed, but modem banks can be added as well. A more expensive option, but one that is still used, phone numbers are purchased in one area and have the calls automatically forwarded to a central modem bank somewhere else. The local phone company handles the switching involved. More information can be found in archives of the inet-access mailing list. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 63) [EOA] [IMB] THE INTERNET USING MARINETTI AND Bernie ][ The Rescue """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Is it possible to connect to the Internet (web or otherwise) with Marinetti and Bernie ][ The Rescue? I just installed it, and it is looking for a connection via the printer or modem port. This is with Bernie 2.6 and 3.0. Steven Weyhrich Apple II Historian http://apple2history.org (SWEYHRICH, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 37) >>>>> """"" Yes. Hook a modem to your Mac's serial port and dial right out. You can't share your Mac's broadband or other internet connection. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 38) >>>>> """"" Yes indeed. You must set the Bernie Communications prefs to Internal Modem or Modem/Serial Port depending on your Mac, then set the speed to 57,600 and DTR Emulation to Emulated. Now set Marinetti to use the IIgs Modem Port and enter the correct information for your ISP. You can then use any Marinetti aware application such as the provided Telnet app, TelnetDA, or Spectrum. Apart from Telnet access, Spectrum will let you run the various script sets such as SAM (e-mail), SAFE (FTP), SIS (web) and SOAR (offline reader for Syndicomm). SAM & SOAR are commercial script sets and can be obtained from Shareware Solutions, the other two you can get from my web site. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 12 Jun 2002 - 41 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 39) >>>>> """"" That's the problem. Not only do I have one of those new-fangled iMacs with no floppy disk drive, but I have no serial port and am using Ethernet to connect to the Net via my broadband connection, with the Airport hub moderating connections with three other Macs. So I take it that Bernie can't do anything with the net via AppleTalk or an emulated Ethernet card (doesn't anyone have LANceGS done in software yet???). Too bad. :-( Steven Weyhrich Apple II Historian http://apple2history.org (SWEYHRICH, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 40) >>>>> """"" >> (doesn't anyone have LANceGS done in software yet???). << We've begged for it, but nothing so far. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 41) >>>>> """"" I am afraid that is the case. However your iMac has a modem built in, so you could always connect that to your phone line and make Bernie happy... Bernie is also happy to use an ISDN connection. As long as your connection method appears in the 'Port' popup, Bernie will use it... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 13 Jun 2002 - 40 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a dual G4/800Mhz GeForce3 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 42) [EOA] [CWH] CASPER, WEB HOSTING FOR THE IIgs? """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Back at KFest '98, didn't I see a brief demo of a program called Ghost or Casper - a web-hosting program for the IIgs? Who produced it, and whatever became of it? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 43) >>>>> """"" Casper was an HTTP server written by Richard Bennett. It was never released. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 44) >>>>> """"" It's available (in source code form only) on the mosp source forge page.... http://sourceforge.net/projects/marinetti http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/marinetti/ MOSP/Applications/Casper/ Kelvin (KWS, Cat 11, Top 15, Msg 35) [EOA] [ITA] IF/TEXT-ADVENTURE FANS """""""""""""""""""""" Any IF/text-adventure peoples out there? I'm currently having fun playing "Wedding" on ye olde IIGS. Only problem is that the (I'm going to foobar the name for sure) Big Red Computer interpreter seems to run kinda slow, even for a (stock) Transwarped-GS. Anyone know of other compilers or speed tricks or anything? ~Tarage (TARAGE, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 57) >>>>> """"" Sure, I love IF. :) The Big Red interpreter is the only one that was ever finished, to my knowledge. There may be a couple of text-based ones though, but I'm not sure. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 58) >>>>> """"" >> Only problem is that the (I'm going to foobar the name for sure) Big Red Computer interpreter seems to run kinda slow, even for a (stock) Transwarped-GS. Anyone know of other compilers or speed tricks...<< There are a couple other interpreters (and even a story compiler) available, but they must run under a shell (gno, orca, maybe prosel). ftp://ftp.gno.org/pub/apple2/gs.specific/gno/games/ has inform (the compiler) and infozip (the interpreter) The location would suggest they're gno specific, but I don't recall offhand. I'm fairly sure there's another interpreter that was ported, but infozip should be faster and have fewer bugs than the BRCC-one. And, you play from a text-shell in 80-column mode, so it's more authentic :) Kelvin (KWS, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 60) Message 60 Thu Jun 20, 2002 [Kelvin] at 06:38 PDT [EOA] [ICZ] INFORM COMPILER TO COMPILE Z-CODE GAMES """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Has anyone ever used the INFORM compiler under the Orca shell to successfully compile Z-code games? (INFORM is the language used to write such classics as Zork and Planetfall, for the unawares). I'm just asking because it keeps dumping out into machine language when it hits a switch() statement in a header file. Wondering if anyone has had success... Thanks, ~Tarage (TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 10) >>>>> """"" I didn't know anyone had built INFORM for the ORCA/Shell. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 11) >>>>> """"" I think I compiled the sample program with it under gno/me, but I don't recall for sure. Check the release notes to see if it does require gnome. Kelvin (KWS, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 12) >>>>> """"" Oh yeah! It was done in 1995 but I've forgotten the guy's name off the top of my head (I'm at work and don't have access to my A2 files here). Support was abandoned at that point, because it only generates .Z5 files, and INFORM is now up to version 6. (TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 13) Message 13 Fri Jun 21, 2002 [tarage] at 13:21 PDT >>>>> """"" Thanks! I will compare these versions to the INFORM compiler for the IIGS made available at the IF FTP site ftp://ftp.ifarchive.org/if-archive/programming/inform5.5/executables/ (which is the one I'm attempting to use now -- it has no requirements for running under GNO/ME AFAIR)... (TARAGE, Cat 22, Top 5, Msg 14) [EOA] [JGS] Juiced.GS V7I2 """""""""""""" Juiced.GS V7I2 has been ordered from our printer and copies for US subscribers should be mailed tomorrow. Once I receive them, International subscribers' copies will go out; hopefully in about a week. Enjoy the inaugural swimsuit issue! Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 291) >>>>> """"" The June 2002 issue should be a well-received issue, I would think. Of course, what I've learned from the first issue of volume 7 is that a well-received Juiced.GS issue is mostly utter silence. :) There have been a few nice comments in RTC or here in the forum, but I got exactly one (1) letter in email or snail mail since that issue, and it pointed out two typos :) Ryan (RSUENAGA, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 292) >>>>> """"" We're not in this for the money, guys. Bring on the feedback! :) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 293) >>>>> """"" Hey! We could have a "Spot Ryan's Boo-boo's Contest". Whoever spots the most, gets a free ComputerEyes! Seriously Ryan, you're doing a great job. I place content over presentation every time, and you haven't disappointed me in either account. B-{) I tremble in fear at a Juiced.GS "swimming suit" edition though... B-{D Kirk (A2.KIRK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 295) >>>>> """"" Ryan, You have done a fabulous job. Keep up the good work. As long as you keep producing them, I will keep buying them. Here's to Juiced.Gs and the Apple ][, alive and kicking in ][00][. Dain Neater Keeper of the Boards. A2 Community Syndicomm.com (A2.DAIN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 296) >>>>> """"" We have had at least one copy of V7I2 show up with some pages upside down. We have no idea yet what the extent of this problem is, but we will take steps to correct the situation as soon as we know if there's more than one bad copy out there. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 297) >>>>> """"" Mine arrived today. An interesting read in regard to content and formatting. Well, I like a challenge once in a while. Yes, I think you need to complain to your printer. I managed to read the whole issue without much trouble. But the second side of the 11x17 page was put in the printer ass end to. I'm surprised the operator didn't catch this. But as to content, it was as good an issue as I've seen. Thanks for all the hard work you guys put into this enterprise. Dave Uncle Duck (DAVEJ, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 310) >>>>> """"" Mine arrived today, and was just fine, all in order. Mine comes from Carol Stream, IL. Another very fine issue it is, too. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Wed 19 Jun 02 3:18:43 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 34 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 308) >>>>> """"" Juiced.GS arrived in Illinois today. Another great issue. And the pages are all right side up and in order. Lyle Syverson Editor, _The Lamp!_ published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/ (LYLE, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 310) >>>>> """"" The printer will refund the entire cost of mailing the bad issues, so I fully intend to send out new ones to people that have copies with pages upside down. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 312) >>>>> """"" My copy arrived today, everything looks fine. Like Carl's copy, it is from Carol Stream, IL. I haven't read it all yet but everything I have read is interesting. Thanks Ryan, Sheppy, Ken, Howard, Tony, Max, and anyone else involved. Margaret (MARGARET, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 313) >>>>> """"" The "swimsuit" issue was much better than the hype, fortunately. :) Another well-written Juiced.GS. Still, when I first saw the cover, I wondered if you guys had hired Diz to do the cover design. It has the GS+ style. :) - Aaron (A2PROGEEK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 314) >>>>> """"" That's probably as goofy a cover as we'll ever do. We've been using more photos than Max used to, and I'm wondering if we're doing -too- much of that. In any case, thanks, Aaron. Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 316) >>>>> """"" Got my copy yesterday... Carol Springs, IL. It's in fine shape, and a wonderful issue too. B-{) Kirk (A2.KIRK, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 317) >>>>> """"" We are trying to determine just how broad the scope of the printing problem is. So far, subscribers in CA, HI, OR, CO, and AZ have identified problems. Please let us know if you have a bad issue, so we can get new ones out to everyone (including me!) Ryan Chief Sysop, A2 Editor in Chief, Juiced.GS (A2.RYAN, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 318) >>>>> """"" I got my replacement issue yesterday and it is fine. Thanks for all the hard work Ryan. One of the best issues yet. Dave (DAVEJ, Cat 23, Top 2, Msg 332) [EOA] [TRC] Apple Technical Reference, 2nd Edition NOW COMPLETE """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Just a note to let folks know that we now have the pages that were missing from the master of the Apple IIc Technical Reference, 2nd Edition. So if you've been holding off placing your order, go for it! ;) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 62) [EOA] [RTS] EMAIL ADDRESS TO REQUEST A NEW TOOL SET """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" What is the current email address to request a new tool set? Andrew Roughan is writing a new tool set and I didn't see any Web pages with this information. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" Try a2pro@syndicomm.com. I think that's the one. If it doesn't work, I'll do some investigating. The list has been so slow that I've forgotten the address. :) (The address goes to a number of people that cooperatively make the decisions). Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" I actually should have checked by old emails. I found an email dated back in August 1999 which was sent to a2pro@syndicomm.com which was used to get the Hash Toolset accepted. If nothing else, thank you for confirming that the address is still valid. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 54, Top 53, Msg 3) [EOA] [LFN] GSOS SUPPORT FOR UPPER/LOWER CASE LETTERS IN ProDOS FILE NAMES """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" How does GSOS provide support for upper and lower case letters in it's ProDOS file names? It seems to store the filename itself in all upper case but has devised some mechanism to determine which ones should be displayed in upper or lower case. Any help? -- Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 13) >>>>> """"" There's a 16-bit field in which the bits are on to indicate upper case and off to indicate lower (or vice versa, I don't remember). Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 14) >>>>> """"" Do you have any idea where this is documented? I can't find it in either my ProDOS Technical Reference Manual or Beyond Apple ProDOS. Any idea why they did it this way rather than just using lowercase ASCII directly in the filename? Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 15) >>>>> """"" >> Do you have any idea where this is documented? I can't find it in either my ProDOS Technical Reference Manual or Beyond Apple ProDOS. << There's a technical note about it. >> Any idea why they did it this way rather than just using lowercase ASCII directly in the filename? << Because adding lowercase support directly into the file names would have broken compatibility with any older applications that didn't know about it, and would have broken disk compatibility with older versions of ProDOS and BASIC.SYSTEM too. By using the bitfield, the disk just looks like all upper-case to the older software. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 17) >>>>> """"" I don't have my A2 tech stuff with me, but the ProDOS case bytes are stored in the directory entry. Ahh, enough excuses - excuse me while I go Google.... OK, I'm back. Here is a quote from GS/OS Tech Note #8 "Filenames With More Than CAPS and Numerals": ================================= Two previously unused bytes in each file's directory entry are now used to indicate the case of a filename. The bytes are at relative locations +$1C and +$1D in each directory entry, and were previously labeled version and min_version. Since ProDOS 8 never actually used these bytes for version checking (except in one case, discussed below), they are now used to store lowercase information. (In the Volume header, bytes +$1A and +$1B are used instead.) If version is read as a word value, bit 7 of min_version would be the highest bit (bit 15) of the word. If that bit is set, the remaining 15 bits of the word are interpreted as flags that indicate whether the corresponding character in the filename is uppercase or lowercase, with set indicating lowercase. For example, the filename Desk.Accs has a value in this word of $B9C0, or binary 1011 1001 1100 0000. The following illustration shows the relationship between the bits and the filename: Bits in WORD: 1011100111000000 Filename: Desk.Accs Uppercase or Lowercase: ULLLUULLL Note that the period (.) is considered an uppercase character. ================================= Peter peterw@syndicomm.com Palm OS Community Bulletin Board Manager (PETERW, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 19) >>>>> """"" I often find that there is so much information spread over so many different places that it is very difficult for a newbie to locate what he is looking for. I knew that lowercase letters were possible in filenames since I've seen it 100's of times and it threw me when it wasn't where I expected it to be. Thank you very much to everybody for their effort. I appreciate your help! Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 21) >>>>> """"" Investigating this issue a little further I have discovered that there is an exception to the Tech Note. It seems that Appleworks Classic files don't use the "version" and "min_version" bytes but use the file's auxtype instead in a similar fashion. My assumption is that this is due to the fact that Appleworks predates the IIgs by two years. Interesting however... :) Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 23) >>>>> """"" And as a result, AppleWorks can't see lower case letters in the name of a file created by the ProDOS FST, and the ProDOS FST can't see lower case letters in the name of a file created by AppleWorks. :) I remember reading about all this many years ago, but I don't know where. Probably on GEnie or in A2-Central. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Thu 27 Jun 02 11:05:48 pm cknoblo@applelinc.org - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b8 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 26 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 59, Top 42, Msg 24) [EOA] ------------------------------------ ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson [JIS] JULY ISSUE OF Syndicommotion NOW AVAILABLE """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The July issue of Syndicommotion (Volume 1, Issue 7) is now available, and can be accessed one of three ways: - Selecting menu option #3 from Page 2 (type "m3;2" without the quotes at any Syndicomm Online menu prompt); - Point your web browser at - Receive it via email. If you're not already subscribed to receive Syndicommotion by email, sign up at < -Ken Gagne writing@syndicomm.com (KGAGNE, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 6) [EOA] [BEM] BLOCKING EMAIL """""""""""""" We recently discovered that our upstream provider had been blocking email from users at btinternet.com due to a substantial spam problem. This was causing our members inconvenience, so we asked our provider to change this, and they have done so. So, for now, email from btinternet.com works. Our provider does say that if the spam problem persists, they'll block it again. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 9) [EOA] [OSU] SYNDICOMM ONLINE STORE UPDATED """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Our online store has been updated! We now properly support airmail overseas, and the store allows you to pay by check or money order. We'll be adding more products to it over the next few days and weeks, such as our remaining inventory of GS+ and a few other items that still aren't listed. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, A2, Cat 24, Top 1, Msg 59) [EOA] [TSU] TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or to sign up! (Logon message) [EOA] ------------------------------------ DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson [CID] CREATING IMAGE OF HARD DRIVE FOR EMULATOR """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I am trying to make an image of my hard drive from my IIGS for running on an emulator (XGS or KeGS32) on my pc. I have GSHK on the gs & I can put files (.shk, .bxy) on a Syquest ez135 that I can read on the pc (MacOpener) But I can't seem to get Nulib2 or Alladin Expander/Dropstuff to 'make a .2mg image. Help!!!! Thanks, Greg (GCHICHESTER, 3539.42, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" Stick with KEGS32. It's not merely a personal preference of mine, simply one program does near-flawless emulation of a IIgs (and may very well be the best IIgs emulator to date, even exceeding Bernie) and the other is the exact opposite in every respect. The latest version can be found here: http://www.geocities.com/akilgard/kegs32/ >> I have GSHK on the gs & I can put files (.shk, .bxy) on a Syquest ez135 that I can read on the pc (MacOpener) But I can't seem to get Nulib2 or Alladin Expander/Dropstuff to 'make a .2mg image. << Simple solution: Use Ninjaforce's Asimov 2.0 on the IIgs side. Select the partition and have it create a 32MB *.2MG image from it (you'll need an HFS volume to store it, as ProDOS can't handle files larger than 16MB; it sounds like you already have an HFS partition on the SyQuest cart). It's very straight forward. That's what I used and now have a copy of my IIgs hardrive for KEGS32 to use. I believe you can only mount two partitions at a time at the moment, though hopefully this should change in time. Asimov URL: http://www.ninjaforce.com/downloads/Asimov.shk Mitchell Spector a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca (SPECTOR1, 3539.43, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" Thanks, that is a good start. I guess this is my typical 'straight forward'..... :) I d/l'd Ninjaforce's Asimov 2.0 (S16), moved & opened on the GS. I boot into 6.01 using ProSel16. Running Asimov 2.0 got an error($0010) 'device is busy'... OK maybe doesn't like Bredon... duh lets try FINDER... OK now I get to selecting source,destination & name it... ERROR ($0043) 'invalid ref' this could be fun, but it isn't. I can't make an image. Now to my question.. Does someone know the error code meanings or how to resolve/dissolve my stone wall? I have (empty) (2)42,000 block Prodos partitions, a 135mb & a 42,000 block HFS partition, 800k floppies. I tried to image a 800k floppy,a 12,000 block HD. Both give the same errors... I am naming the file test.2mg, test.2img, test (w/o a suffix)..same error.. Please help, I'm getting tired... I'm missing something very basic. Greg (GCHICHESTER, 3539.45, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" >> OK now I get to selecting source,destination & name it....ERROR ($0043) 'invalid ref' this could be fun, but it isn't. I can't make an image. << That's a GS/OS error code for "Bad file reference number". When I wrote up a review on Asimov, one thing I discovered is the program is very sensitive to bad media or corrupted/damaged volumes. I'm not quite sure what that error is referring to exactly though, I'd have to look it up to refresh my memory. You can't even run a disk validity scan with ProSel-16 (or any other GS/OS tool) because it's HFS you're dealing with. Try reformatting the SyQuest cart and see if that helps. Assuming that was the problem. If that doesn't work, try using Sheppy's ImageMaker program as an alternative. It should handle the same type of job, converting a 32MB ProDOS hardisk volume into a *.2MG disk image file: http://www.sheppyware.net/products/a2/imagemaker/ Mitchell Spector a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca (SPECTOR1, 3539.46, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" You seem to be stressing 32mb.. Is there a specification to that exact size? Do I have to make an empty partition to an exact size first? Can it be the size of my original GS partition? Is it REQUIRED to do this image to a Prodos partition? Thanks, Greg (GCHICHESTER, 3539.48, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" >> You seem to be stressing 32mb... << Sorry if I confused anyone there. I always make my ProDOS partition the largest possible maximum on my IIgs: 32768K. So that's all I've personally dealt with mostly. >> Is there a specification to that exact size? << Not at all. KEGS (and I would assume XGS) allow pretty much arbitrary sized hardisk images. You can have a 1MB, 10MB, 13MB, etc *.2MG image--though NOT larger than 32MB obviously or it won't be usable as a ProDOS device. >> Do I have to make an empty partition to an exact size first? << Nope, if your boot partition is only 15MB, then Asimov will see it and properly convert it to a *.2MG image file (it should actually be just that size, a 15MB data file). >> Can it be the size of my original GS partition? << Yep, see above. >> Is it REQUIRED to do this image to a Prodos partition? << I'm not sure I understand the question... Mitchell Spector a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca (SPECTOR1, 3539.50, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" as opposed to hfs format.. academic now. As you suggested I used Sheppyware's program. EXACTLY as Asimovs on my GS & it made my HD a .2mg file on my hfs Syquest w/o blinking..... I now can view my GS booting into prosel8 & can launch prosel16 ON MY pc !!!!!! Any ideas why I got (GS) errors w/ Asimov? Thanks, Greg (GCHICHESTER, 3539.52, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" >> As you suggested I used Sheppyware's program. EXACTLY as Asimovs on my GS & it made my HD a .2mg file on my hfs Syquest w/o blinking..... I now can view my GS booting into prosel8 & can launch prosel16 ON MY pc ! << Glad it worked! >> Any ideas why I got (GS) errors w/ Asimov? << I'm not sure if I would call it buggy, but it definitely IS over sensitive to software volume errors and corruption. I'm betting there is some kind of error on that HFS volume. I had similar problems reading or writing to a certain volume with Asimov while ImageMaker, as you say, worked without blinking. I later ran a disk-scan on that particular volume with ProSel-16 and discovered errors on the drive. After letting ProSel repair the drive Asimov then worked fine. You can take that as either a good thing or a bad thing. :) I think it's actually a good thing, though a future version of Asimov _should_ really bring up a message reporting the error and asking if you want to abort or ignore and continue. There's reviews of both Asimov and DiskMaker (ImageMaker's companion program) over at A2Central. http://www.a2central.com/reviews/asimov/index.html http://www.a2central.com/reviews/diskmaker/index.html Mitchell Spector a_specto@alcor.concordia.ca (SPECTOR1, 3539.54, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" >> That's a GS/OS error code for "Bad file reference number". When I wrote up a review on Asimov, one thing I discovered is the program is very sensitive to bad media or corrupted/damaged volumes. I'm not quite sure what that error is referring to exactly though, I'd have to look it up to refresh my memory. << To nitpick it sounds like a ProDOS error code. A program like Asimov would have three parts. 1) Read a volume block by block. 2) Process that data in this case format it to .2mg format. 3) Write the data. Part 1 would likely be ProDOS READ_BLOCK call which doesn't use file reference numbers. Part 2 probably just straight memory manipulation and no ProDOS call involved. Part 3 would need to use calls like OPEN (which assigns the reference number), READ, WRITE, CLOSE which all require that reference number to function. Here is where the error is likely coming from. So it looks like that under certain circumstances that a call to a READ, WRITE or CLOSE is happening either before the OPEN is executed or the reference number assigned by the OPEN is being corrupted. This could be due to either a bug in Asimov or another process (bad CDA, NDA?) chewing up Asimov's memory space. Mark Percival Syndicomm.com Apple II Forum RTC Host "Midweek Madness" every Wednesday night! 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Pacific Time (PERCIM, 3539.55, Delphi A2 web side) [EOA] [TTC]------------------------------- THE TINKERER'S CORNER | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson Persistence Pays Off ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It was my weekly visit to the local Salvation Army "As Is" store... all sales are final here... no returns of merchandise that doesn't work. It was a sorry looking sight. On the bench in the back corner of the store, in the computer section, lay a IIgs. Covered with fly specks and dust. Hmm... a IIgs monitor, an 85MB SCSI drive, a ImageWriter II... all with matching fly specks and dust... this must be a complete system! IIgs owner's manual, Appleworks GS manual, "Care and Feeding the Q Drive"... this was getting interesting. Taking the cover off the IIgs revealed an Apple HS SCSI card and a short RAM card with 4 memory chips and sockets for 4 more. CPU, monitor and SCSI drive at $5 each... less 10% senior discount... $12.50 total. I opted not to buy the printer. After a good cleanup with the vac and a damp rag the equipment was looking good. Then the moment of truth... ROM 1... clock reads right date, is one hour slow... the ram card has 4MB plus 4 empty sockets. Passes self test... RAM passes BitBanger test. Boots up to System 6... then the *loud* sound reminding one of the trumpet of an angry elephant... then the black screen with a graphic, reading "Is Anyone There" moving up and down endlessly... the former owner was a joker. :) Moved the system software to a temp folder and installed System 6.01. Exploration of the Hard Drive revealed Appleworks GS and lots of games. Not bad for a spare IIgs system. :) [EOA] ------------------------------------ LETTERS TO THE EDITOR | ------------------------------------ [NLE] NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month. [EOA] [LTE] AN INVITATION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the Apple II computers. Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted. The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_. [EOA] [KFT]------------------------------ KFest 2002 | ----------------------------------- [YAI] YOU ARE INVITED """"""""""""""" OH MY LORD, WE'RE GOING TO THE DANCE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ By: Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. A few years ago, when the University of Hawai'i men's basketball team earned its way into the National Collegiate Athletic Association championship tournament--known alternatively as "March Madness" and "The Big Dance"--with an improbable run through an impossible field of Western Athletic Conference opponents, legend has it one of the homegrown players on the Hawai'i roster screamed at the top of his lungs, "Oh my Lord, we're going to the dance!" Who wouldn't be excited? March Madness is a gathering of the best of college athletics in this country, and while some may leave disappointed, no one regrets going, although many regret squandering the chance to go. The Apple II Community has its own Big Dance--it's called KansasFest. It is indeed a gathering of the best the Apple II world has to offer, but unlike college basketball's Big Dance, no one leaves disappointed, unless it's because they couldn't do everything they wanted to, and like college basketball's Big Dance, many regret squandering their chance to go. Unlike March Madness, the field isn't limited to those who are invited only--or rather, everyone's invited. Don't live with regrets--go to the dance. -- Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- Chief Sysop, Palm OS on Syndicomm.com Publisher, The Lamp! -- Editor, A2 News and Notes -- Staff, Juiced.GS Apple II Forever! -- Speak softly and wear loud shorts [EOA] [FPF] GOOD FOOD PROMOTES FELLOWSHIP """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" Subject: (kfest) Tuesday dinner Once again, I would like to suggest a trip to Stephenson's Apple Orchard for dinner on Tuesday. I thought they did an excellent job of dealing with the large group and individual checks. And besides, it's still my favorite KC restaurant. Cindy (Cindy Adams, KFest Mailing List) [EOA] [SNY] PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP FOR NEXT YEAR ALREADY! """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Subject: (kfest) KFest 2003 From the KFest marketing department ---- Now is the time for you to consider KFest 2003. Some folks are so excited, they've already signed up for next year's wondrous event. Yep! Their registration is paid and they are ready and waiting in line. We promised anonymity, so we're not at liberty to divulge the names of those who are already first in line for next year, but it proves that it's never too early to sign up for KFest! If you hurry, you can be next. If you hurry real fast, you could even be second, third or fourth in line! :) Before you ask, we don't know the dates yet. Cindy (Cindy Adams, KFest Mailing List) [EOA] [KFR] K-FEST 2002 REGISTRATION INFORMATION """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" KFEST 2002 REGISTRATION: +++ Please note: You MUST send the NEW registration form below (via postal mail or fax) when you register. KFest 2002 Registration Info... meet old A2 friends... meet new friends... """""""""""""""""""""""""""" When: July 23-28, 2002 Where: Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri The most important Apple II event of the year, KFest 2002, is on our calendar again, and it's never too early to make sure it has a place on your calendar, too. Check these rates, which include your room from Tuesday and meals from Wednesday evening (dinner) on July 24, through Sunday morning (breakfast) on July 28. (Saturday evening dinner not included. That's KFesters' Night Out On The Town!) PLEASE NOTE: There is no "extra day" fee this year. Because of the popularity, we've arranged to make Tuesday an official part of KFest! KFest 2002 Registration Form View and print this document using 9-point Monaco or Courier font (the default of most monospaced font applications such as ProTERM & Spectrum). Registering for KFest 2002: NOTE: - The information requested in the KFest Registration Form below must be sent even though the information is called in. - If a member of the family accompanies you to KFest, please send a separate registration form for each person. <> Fax or email KFest Registration Form using a credit card number: - Complete the form below and send the KFest Registration Form; (EMAIL IS NOT SECURE). <> By postal mail: Credit card, check, Purchase Order or money order: - Print and fill out the KFest Registration Form. - Send the form with the payment to: InTrec Software, Inc. Attn: KFest Registration Voc: 602/992-1345 3035 E Topaz Cir Fax: 602/992-0232 Phoenix, Az 85028-4423 Discover/Novus, Visa, Mastercard or AmEx accepted. Checks & money orders must be payable to InTrec Software, and must be in US dollars from a US bank. ---[ Begin Form ]-----------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]--- =>___ =>___ First Name Last Name =>___ Organization (if applicable to KFest) =>___ Shipping Address =>___ City =>___ State/Province Zip+4 or Postal Code =>___ =>___ Day Phone Eve Phone =>___ Internet Mail Address =>___ =>___ Credit Card Number (Mastercard-Visa-Discover/Novus-AmEx) Expiration Date =>___ Name on Card (please print clearly) =>___ Authorized Signature (If printed and mailed, or faxed.) If you feel that using a credit card number via email may not be secure, consider mailing via postal service, fax, or call voice to give the card number. Checks and money orders must be on a USA bank and USA compatible funds. Registration Cost Check each Applicable Line ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +++ Early Bird rates (Register BEFORE May 15) +++ 7 [ ] Double Room before 5/15 .............................. 265.00 8 [ ] Single Room before 5/15 .............................. 330.00 9 [ ] Spouse or child before 5/15 .......................... 200.00 10 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) before 5/15 ...... 200.00 +++ Rates after the Early Bird Special (Register AFTER May 15) +++ Rates (after May 15 and at the door): 11 [ ] Double Room ......................................... 335.00 12 [ ] Single Room ......................................... 385.00 13 [ ] Spouse or child ..................................... 285.00 14 [ ] Registration only (no room or meals) after 5/15....... 285.00 T-Shirts must be ordered in advance 15 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Small ............................... 15.00 16 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Medium .............................. 15.00 17 [ ] T-Shirt softwear Large ............................... 15.00 18 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 1X-Large ............................ 15.00 19 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 2X-Large ............................ 15.00 20 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 3X-Large ............................ 16.00 21 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 4X-Large ............................ 17.00 22 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 5X-Large ............................ 18.00 23 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 6X-Large ............................ 19.00 24 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 7X-Large ............................ 20.00 25 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 8X-Large ............................ 21.00 26 [ ] T-Shirt softwear 9X-Large ............................ 22.00 May we send your registration confirmation via e-mail? [ ]Yes [ ]No [ ] As a PDF (Acrobat Reader) file (preferred) [ ] As a TEXT file mailed to the listed address Roommate preference: =>___ Prefer smoking/non-smoking roommate: [ ] Smoke [ ] Non-smoke Today's Date: _=>___ / / 1- Registration fee (see above dates & fees) ......... =>__ 2- Registration fee for spouse if applicable ......... =>__ 3- T-Shirts Quantity [ ] @ $15.00 ea) ................ =>__ 4- Sub-total of lines 1-3: ........................... =>__ 5- Arizona residents only add 8.1% tax: .............. =>__ 6- Total cost (total of lines 4-5): .................. =>__ ---[ End Form ]------------[ Cut Here ]----------[ Print Clearly ]--- Check-in will be from 1-4 pm on Tuesday. Check-out will be from 11 am-1 pm on Sunday. Current plans call for formal KFest 2002 sessions to begin with dinner in the Avila cafeteria on Wednesday evening (time to be announced), followed by the traditional opening event, the Keynote Address. We've got some great plans again for that opening night activity. Stay tuned!! Computer sessions will be conducted on Thursday and Friday. Software and hardware demos are scheduled for Saturday morning, with a vendor fair slated for Saturday afternoon. Reminder: Meals included in the registration price are Wednesday dinner through Sunday breakfast, with the exception of Saturday dinner. On Saturday night, attendees can dine on their own at one of the many fine restaurants near the Avila campus, or join groups of KFesters at a local favorite selected by the Roastee. All children under 18 years must be accompanied by a parent or legal guardian. *** KFest 2002 is again being sponsored by InTrec Software, Inc., makers of ProTERM telecommunications software for the Apple II and Macintosh. If you have questions about KFest, or wish to make suggestions, you can find answers via the Internet. Just send an email message to: kfest-help@kfest.org ... or visit the KFest World Wide Web page: If you're thinking about attending KFest, you'll enjoy the KFest Internet e-mail chat: To subscribe to the KFest Information Mailing List, send email to: . Place the following text in the BODY of the message: subscribe kfest You will receive a confirmation e-mail. To be signed up for the list, you will have to respond to this confirmation as the instructions dictate, and then you will then be able send and read messages on the mailing list. Sponsored by: InTrec Software, Inc. 3035 E Topaz Circle Phoenix, AZ 85028-4423 Voc:602/992-1345 Fax:602/992-0232 (KFESTSTEVE [Gouda], Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 24, Syndicomm A2) [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! 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