[HEA] _____________________ ___ _ |___ ______________| | | | | | | _ | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | ____ _ _ _ _ ______ | | | || | | | / __ \ | | / \_/ \ | ___ \ | | | || |__ ____ | | / / \ | | /\ /\ \ | | \ \ | | | || _ \ | _ \ | | \ \__/ | | | |_|| | | |__/ / | | | || | | || |_|| | | \___/|_| |_| |_| | ____/ |_| | || | | || |__ | |____________________ | | _ |__||_| |_|\____/ |________________________| | | |_| | | Lighting Your Apple II Path On Delphi | | |_| ----------------------------------- >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DISTRIBUTION OF _The Lamp!_ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE PUBLISHER STRIKES BACK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ KFEST 2000 \ FIRST-TIMER'S NOTES ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AND THE BEST OF THE A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998" :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 3, No. 8 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Mail, Editor..............................lyle837@FoxValley.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ August 15, 2000 HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER Come, Sit Awhile / Family Reunion--------------------------------[OPN] DISTRIBUTION OF _The Lamp!_ _The Lamp!_ HOME PAGE UPDATED------------------------------------[LHP] THE PUBLISHER STRIKES BACK It's Deja Vu All Over Again--------------------------------------[PSB] A2 DISTILLATIONS Netbooting a IIgs------------------------------------------------[NBG] Silvern Castle Help----------------------------------------------[SCH] Silvern Castle Clues---------------------------------------------[SCC] Silvern Castle v5.0 Available in Data Base-----------------------[SCU] Hard Drive for Apple II+ ----------------------------------------[AHD] Juiced.GS, Vol 5, Issue 2----------------------------------------[JGS] Which Brands of CD-ROM Drives for IIgs?--------------------------[WBC] To Ensure A2 Software is Not Lost...-----------------------------[TES] Glen Bredon Dies-------------------------------------------------[GBD] Arachnid Preview 2 Available-------------------------------------[APA] The Case of the Forgotten Passwords------------------------------[CFP] Lost Classics Moves Right Along----------------------------------[LCM] New Software for the IIgs - Announced at KFest - Ready-----------[NSA] KFest Live Cam Broadcast Praised---------------------------------[LCP] The French Connection CD-ROMS------------------------------------[TFC] The Ultimate Eamon Collection on CD-ROM--------------------------[TUE] No Slot Clock----------------------------------------------------[NSC] Delphi Will Drop Support for Text Based Access-------------------[DDS] A2Central.com and Syndicomm to Build New Apple II Home Online----[BNH] A2P DISTILLATIONS Marinetti Open Source Project------------------------------------[MOS] Merlin-16+ 4.12 Z.08---------------------------------------------[MLN] ZBASIC Becomes Freeware - Uploaded to A2P------------------------[ZBC] KFEST 2000 First-Timer's Notes----------------------------------------------[FTN] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. [OPN]------------------------------- HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER | ------------------------------------ From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson Come, Sit Awhile ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Come, sit awhile with me on the patio High Above The Rock River. It is dusk... a gentle breeze is blowing... the city lights are coming on... a lone boat moves quietly upstream. What a nice time and place to savor your KFest experience. [*] [*] [*] Family Reunion ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Everywhere at KFest there is this feeling of kinship... greeting old friends, introductions to new friends, looking at the equipment people brought, sharing information, helping others. Reminds you of a family reunion. It was a real pleasure to meet Ryan, Publisher of The Lamp, in person. That man has boundless energy. He is a great guy to work for. [*] [*] [*] Plan Ahead ~~~~~~~~~~ KFest 2001 is set for July 25-29 (early arrivals on July 24) at Avila College. Put it on your calender and start saving your money. You will be glad you did. [EOA] [LHP]------------------------------ DISTRIBUTION OF _The Lamp!_ | _The Lamp!_ HOME PAGE UPDATED | ----------------------------------- From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson, Editor, _The Lamp!_ , As of August 13, 2000, _The Lamp!_ Home Page, http://lamp.sheppyware.net has been updated and now includes all issues of _The Lamp!_ that have been published to that date. Plans are to add each issue to the home page as it is published. All issues of _The Lamp!_ are also available for download from the Delphi Custom 11 Database... From the text side "go gr cus 11 for" Lyle Syverson Editor, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi [EOA] [PSB]------------------------------ THE PUBLISHER STRIKES BACK | ----------------------------------- From The Publisher """""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ After months out of action from working on _The Lamp!_, my project is complete and I'm back. My "project" was the _Time in a Bottle_ two disc CD collection of Apple II software, based on the Syndicomm libraries based on Genie, released at the end of my keynote speech at KansasFest 2000. Blatant Plug: this product will be available exclusively through _Juiced.GS_, as will new versions of _The Compleat Lamp!_. In any case, as I recover from weeks travelling the North American continent, meeting old friends and making new ones, and, oh yeah, from KansasFest 2000, it's back to what's important: the Apple II and _The Lamp!_. One of the highlights of my trip to Avila this summer was the chance to meet Lyle in person. That reaffirmed what I already knew: I left you all in good hands. We talked business, talked computers, but mostly just had fun. Which is what the Apple II is all about these days. Just like it was back in 1977. In addition to those new products, I'm also going to start putting out a short monthly newsletter called _A2 News and Notes_. Expect it around the beginning of each month. Unlike _The Lamp!_, reproduction permission is quite liberal (well, maybe more like _The Lamp!_--I'll give Lyle the opportunity to fill you in) so you newsletter editors can stop looking for a few less news items each month. Finally, concluding with our "What's old is new and what's new is old" theme, I'd like to let you all in on a secret: A2Central.com, one of the newest World Wide Web sites for the Apple II, is going to be one of the hottest spots on the Internet in the coming months. I plan to devote more and more of our energies here at _The Lamp!_ toward making it a prime mover and shaker in the Apple II online community. Remember: have fun. Ryan thelamp@sheppyware.net [EOF] ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2 """""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson [NBG] NETBOOTING A IIgs """"""""""""""""" I have recently pulled my old Apple IIgs out of the closet and tried setting it up. It has no hard drive, and I don't wish to go out and purchase one right now, so I thought that I would set up the computer to boot off a network, as I recall reading in the IIgs manual that this could be done. However, as far as I can tell, doing this requires AppleShare 3.0, which is neither free nor for sale. My question is this: is there an alternative to AppleShare 3.0 which will allow me to boot a ROM 03 IIgs over a AppleTalk, or, if there is not, is there any way to acquire a copy of AppleShare 3.0? (NCHAIMOV, 31837, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > is there an alternative to AppleShare 3.0 which will allow me to boot > a ROM 03 IIgs over a AppleTalk, Nope. > or, if there is not, is there any way to acquire a copy of AppleShare > 3.0? On the used market. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 31875, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Now, I've been in a similar state when my GS hard drive died. I thought of a way to use a Mac hard disk. Details are currently vague, but it involved using the System 6.0.1 installer to create a boot 3.5" floppy that had AppleTalk support. I booted the floppy and connected to the Mac through the localtalk network. I could then run programs on the Mac hard drive. I had to do very careful pruning, though to fit everything on, so I wanted to go one extra step: deleting the Finder from the boot disk and running a program launcher that was on the Mac. Problems: the Finder won't work outside of its usual location in the System Folder. Wings works, but only with ProDOS volumes. (not ideal). JumpStart, which I believe is now freeware, worked like a charm. I set that as my startup program and I had the poor man's AppleShare. As I say, this was some time ago and the details of what settings I used on the Mac and GS are vague. I hope that they give enough clues to let you figure out the steps. Take notes, and let me know how it works out :-) -Gareth (GARETH, 31902, GO COM A2) [EOA] [SCH] SILVERN CASTLE HELP """"""""""""""""""" > ...where all can you get Silvern Castle? To the best of my knowledge, SC can be downloaded from Delphi and Trenco (www.gno.org). It's also available from Juiced.GS as part of Max Jones' "Friends for Life" CD as well as some back disk issues of his magazine "Juiced.GS". Jeff Fink (ROFFERSD, 32130, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > The last Silvern Castle version I used was v3.0. What are the upgrade > procedures to get up to v5.0? All you have to do is get yourself a copy, the install procedures are included in the READ.ME.FIRST file in the upgrade package. Jeff Fink (ROFFERSD, 32131, GO COM A2) [EOA] [SCC] SILVERN CASTLE CLUES """""""""""""""""""" I've got mine upgraded. It gives you options to undo some of the "complications"like using gold, silver, and copper coins (or just gold coins), or using the encumbrance feature or not. I turned off coins but left encumbrances. That's nice, I thing it doesn't detract from the game. But I still need to find a password for the moat area. I have gotten through the bubbles. I see no clues really, obvious or otherwise. This part of games I am a dunce at. I never even bothered to try Myst, though my family bought it. The game also seems speeded up. Is that true? I seems to run smoother and faster. Otherwise I see no obvious differences. Is anyone else playing and has anyone gotten beyond the coded door? BTW: I used the upgrade found on the Juiced-GS disks. Bruce (BRB, 32473, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" >But I still need to find a password for the moat area. Sorry this took so long, I was away this past week... Hi Bruce! I would have e-mailed this to you, but perhaps others would also like this help getting past the new extended scenario stuff added in v3.0 and later. NOTE: This gives away vital clues!!! If you want to solve Silvern Castle on your own STOP NOW!!! To solve the extended scenario so you can play the second scenario you must get into the moat (note: you must teleport to any illegal location and you'll be dropped in the moat-try 11 levels down). When you get past the bubbles you come up to a metal gate, if you have registered your copy you'll be able to get through into an underwater cavern. Note: If you have registered make sure your serial number shows up at the title page-if not reenter your registration password and serial number. Once in the underwater cavern it leads to a door with needs the new apple key to open. Note: To get the key, on level 10 behind the locked door needing the silver key (there's only one-it's the door that used to lead to the back way to Drachma's Lab) you'll get the skeleton key from the MAC high-priest. Use the skeleton key to open any of the doors on level 1-10 that couldn't be opened before (hint: there's one just a little north of the MAC priest). Behind any skeleton key door will get you a li-power crystal. Take the crystal to the head guru on level 1 and you'll get the apple key plus some hints about the moat. Back to the moat. Using the apple key you enter an airlock. To the north of the airlock is a door with an access device requiring a password. Note: There is a secret door-that does not show up using the light spell. Behind the secret door(s) is part of the password. This should be enough clues to get past the access device. The stuff past the access device should be easier. Ultimately it leads to Drachma's Lab-be sure to do this to get hints on the second scenario. Also, remember secret doors don't show up in the moat and watch-out for teleporters (must should be visible as a white square in v5.0 and later-before this they don't). What about that blue archway? Hint: Defeat Drachma. Hope this helps, Jeff Fink (ROFFERSD, 32531, GO COM A2) [EOA] [SCU] SILVERN CASTLE v5.0 AVAILABLE IN DATA BASE """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: SCUPD50.BXY (Entertainment Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:45 By: HKATZ Size: 209536 Silvern Castle, the popular role-playing game for 8-bit Apple II computers released only a year ago at KFest '99, has been updated to version 5.0! New in this version is the ability to turn off encumbrance and to restrict coinage to just gold pieces. Also, clerics can now identify items like druids, back-row characters have a lower chance of being hit during melee combat, NPCs may exchange information if they surrender, spellbooks and holy symbols can be dropped, and there's been some fine-tuning to the monsters. A new expert scenario, "Time Master", is included, but can only be played by registered owners. (TONYW1, 32422, GO COM A2) [EOA] [AHD] HARD DRIVE FOR APPLE II+ """""""""""""""""""""""" Hello, Is it possible to connect a Hard Disk to an Apple II+ ? I probably need a SCSI or IDE card for the Apple Slot, does anyone have an electric scheme for building this on your own? Reading through this Forum I discovered a few people apparently using HDs on Apple IIe with Prodos. I never thought about it. Do I have to enhance the II+ in order to get Prodos working or would a little programming enhancement in DOS 3.3 help seeing the Hard Disk ? Any help would be appreciated, Claudio (CRISTINZ, 31870, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" I'm running a hard drive on a II+. I'm using an Apple Rev C SCSI card connected to a 40mb hard drive. I use a program called Sneeze as a program launcher. Pretty well all the programs on the hard drive are ProDOS 8 programs. The only enhancement you need for ProDOS is to have 64k of memory. With 64k and a 6502 you can use any version of ProDOS up to and including 1.9. If you replace the 6502 with a 65C02 or are using an accelerator such as a ZipChip or TransWarp which include a 65C02 the you can use the last version of ProDOS 2.0.3. DOS 3.3 is basically incompatible with drives over 400k. Some DOS 3.3 stuff can be transferred over to ProDOS and some can't. I generally leave the DOS 3.3 stuff on floppies and boot them if I want to run DOS 3.3 stuff. However a hard drive is so much faster and more convenient that it isn't long before you only want to run stuff off the hard drive Wayne (WAYNEJ, 31883, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > Is it possible to connect a Hard Disk to an Apple II+ ? Yep. You should just know that in terms of a SCSI setup, your options are limited to the original Apple ("Revision C") SCSI card, or similar, such as the older CMS SCSI card. If your going to use ProDOS (which isn't a bad idea considering DOS 3.3 is limited to 400K per partition and no subdirectories/folders) you'll need at least 64K RAM installed--that is all the RAM sockets populated on the II Plus board (48K total) in addition to a 16K Language card or better plugged into slot-0. There may be other hard drive setups available for the II Plus, though I'm uncertain if things like the Focus HD or Vulcan are compatible (most people adding hard drives do so to an Enhanced IIe or better). Mitchell Spector { cw308@torfree.net} (SPECTOR1, 31890, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" I once had a 40MB Applied Engineering IIe/II+ Vulcan hard drive that would work with any IIe or a II+. I used mine on a IIe. If I remember correctly, the only change (according to the manual) that had to be made for II+ operation was a DIP switch change on the controller card. The II+ memory requirement of 64k that you mentioned, of course, would still apply. Barry Rees (BARRY_REES, 31903, GO COM A2) [EOA] [JGS] Juiced.GS, VOL 5, ISSUE 2 """"""""""""""""""""""""" Announcing ... ===== Juiced.GS, Volume 5, Issue 2 ===== The July 2000 edition of Juiced.GS, the Apple II world's premier IIGS-specific magazine, was delivered to 205 subscribers in 45 states and numerous points around the globe. Here's what you'll find in this 24-page issue: ============ FEATURES Cover Story: Turn your PC into a IIGS -- An in-depth tutorial on putting BeOS and Sweet16 to work ... Eric Shepherd makes the task of installing BeOS and the Sweet16 emulator on your PC far less daunting. The Virtual GS: An emulator wish list ... Ryan Suenaga, our emulation master, dreams big dreams -- and reveals his wishes -- for future features in our favorite IIGS emulators. COLUMNS My Home Page: Saved by SAM (and EarthLink) ... The editor explains how the dreaded loss of shell access on his ISP was made less traumatic by the presence of the new IIGS Internet e-mailer and discovery of a new Marinetti-savvy ISP. II Be Named Later: Our columnist, Ryan Suenaga, looks ahead in great anticipation to another grand Apple II festival -- KFest 2000. Desktop Publishing: Dave Bennett explains how good photos, used well in your DTP projects, have a great impact on attracting and holding readers. Telecommunications: Tony Ward takes on the tough and always controversial subject of copyrights in the digital age. DEPARTMENTS Shareware Spotlight: Geoff releases a new program that allows Spectrum users to create PDF files; Beagle Bros releases an old program that makes computer drawing fun again; and Howard Katz brings readers up to date on the latest software reclassification efforts. DumplinGS: A2Central.com emerges as a compelling new online resource for Apple II enthusiasts; Ultima I is back on the market; the Juiced.GS 'Friends for Life' CD-ROM is now shipping; and Y ][ KFest is but a few days away. And believe it or not, that's not all! Letters from the Land of ROM: Readers ask questions, get answers, make suggestions, and otherwise give us a piece of their mind. We have almost three pages worth of letters from readers in this issue. ADVERTISEMENTS KFest registration; Juiced.GS CD-ROM; a cool card-ID contest from Tony Diaz at apple2.org; and a Sheppyware surprise! ============ Juiced.GS is a quarterly, printed publication available by subscription only. A subscription for 2000 is $16 in the U.S., Canada or Mexico, $22 elsewhere. To subscribe, send a check or money order in U.S. funds to: Max Jones Juiced.GS 2217 Lakeview Drive Sullivan, IN 47882 Make checks or money orders payable to Max Jones. To subscribe by credit card, visit the Juiced.GS online order processing site on the World Wide Web. The URL is: http://order.kagi.com/?2ZM Complete sets of 1996, 1997, 1998 and 1999 issues are available for $14 each ($20 overseas). If you would like to purchase only a specific single copy (or copies) of back issues, they are available for $4 each ($6 overseas). An index and brief description of articles published in '96/'97'98/'99 are available on the Juiced.GS web site. See URL below. Apple II Forever! Max Jones Juiced.GS Delphi: JuicedGS -- Internet: juicedgs@delphi.com World Wide Web: http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, 32160, GO COM A2) [EOA] [WBC] WHICH BRANDS OF CD-ROM DRIVES FOR IIgs? """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Does anyone know which CD-ROM brands (other than Apple) will work with the Apple ][GS? I see several at the GoodWill store and I am reluctant to get just anyone's brand other that Apple. Also the Apple High Speed SCSI will work with CD-ROM's but is the "HIGH SPEED" SCSI card the only one to use? Mack (MACKDUNCAN, 32112, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Most should work (although I'm sure there are a couple of examples where that's not the case) so long as you have a SCSI controller installed and set things up properly. From my experience there are two major "what if"'s involved, their being: 1) Will the brand/model in question read all types of CD-R's (there are many burnable CD's with a color coating the laser has trouble seeing on some drives) and 2) Will you be able to play back audio CD's through the IIgs? Finding out #1 is mostly trial and error, although if your only going to be reading factory pressed (silver colored) CD's this isn't an issue. As for #2 if you have an Apple SCSI card you _will_ need an Apple brand CD-ROM drive (i.e. CDSC, CDSC+, CD-150) for audio. The RamFAST has drivers for playing audio CDs on Apple and non-Apple drives, but they can be rather flaky. I was able to get a Chinon 1X to play audio with the RamFAST, but it froze up control of the computer until I ejected the disc. > Also the Apple High Speed SCSI will work with CD-ROM's but is the > "HIGH SPEED" SCSI card the only one to use? I believe the Apple revision 'C' card will work, but you'd have to reboot whenever changing discs (the card isn't very friendly with removable devices if I recall correctly). The RamFAST will certainly work, but when it comes to playing audio CDs things can get iffy. I've heard many reports about the NEC 2x working beautifully with audio discs though. I'm not sure if cards such as the CMS, Ohio Kache SCSI or Cirtech work well (if at all) with CD-ROMs and other removable devices. My guess is if they do, it would be similar in function to the Apple Rev.C (I generally don't recommend anything but the Apple or RamFAST when it comes to SCSI boards, although some people have gotten good use out of the others). Mitchell Spector { cw308@torfree.net} (SPECTOR1, 32119, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" I'm using a Ramfast on both my IIgs & IIe with NEC CD-ROMs. I tried a couple of other brands (wish I could remember the names) and while both of them seemed to work fine as far as reading files and playing music the one thing they wouldn't do was boot off any of the ProDOS CDs I'd burned. Not a big deal but something I wanted. Wayne (WAYNEJ, 32121, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" My own experiences with Rev.C and Sony CDU 541 is that for the system to boot from HD residing on the same SCSI bus, CDROM reader must have a readable media in it. (My guess is that Rev.C doesn't make an exception for removable media device when checking reply for Test Unit Ready command, which will always return Check Condition if media is not present.) Otherwise, it appears to work just fine, most of the time. (DCHIU, 32122, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Well, I have a Toshiba 40x (yes, 40) CDROM drive hooked up to my tower GS with a RamFAST. It's fast, trust me. :) Yeah, it's overkill, but it's way better than the NEC 2x I had in there previously. Other than the initial spin-up time, I don't notice a difference between a CD or the hard drive. There's no way I could say that about the NEC. I also have a Toshiba 1x drive in the same GS for CD audio (the NEC worked great for audio, too), and I don't think I'll ever put another data CD in it. :) Later, - Aaron (APULVER, 32168, GO COM A2) <<<<< """"" Hey Aaron, Can you use the Music CD in one drive as you use the data in another drive? Do I understand you correctly? Mack (MACKDUNCAN, 32169, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Mack, Yes. Or two data CDs, or two music CDs... Or three. I used to have two Toshiba 1x drives and one NEC 2x drive hooked up and I could use them all at the same time. That's with a RamFAST, though. I never tried it with an Apple SCSI card. Later, - Aaron (APULVER, 32193, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" From the land of "make do": I have 2 GS(s) with SCSI: 1 is an Apple Rev "C" card. the other is a last revision (d?) of the CMS. I have several SCSI CDROM drives thanks to Goodwill. The Rev C works with: All Apple ones I have tried, loves the 300, Toshiba, Sony, a couple that I have not popped out of their case so I have not clue one what they are. Gotchas: You MUST have a CD in the drive to boot otherwise the SCSI chain stops right there. Changing disks without rebooting is possible but like a Mac, trash the current one before ejecting. The drive I have on there is a caddy type on a manual load/eject (yeah I know...weird). Music does NOT work on any drive tested. The CMS works with: Not One Blessed CD Drive! but it really crawls fast on the 3 hard drives it supports! -Bart (PILGRIMER, 32239, GO COM A2) [EOA] [TES] TO ENSURE A2 SOFTWARE IS NOT LOST... """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I don't want to get involved in this debate, seeing how both sides rarely change their stance on the issue, but some of the points brought up highlight a growing problem here. Software titles written for the Apple II numbered in the tens of thousands, at one point long ago Apple claimed it was the largest collection of software of any computer platform in the world. Software is the *MOST* important of factors when considering a computer's strength, it is the life blood of that machine. Features and processing power don't mean a thing if there's no software to make that collection of chips do anything (many great computers fell wayside because they lacked software, the IIGS suffered for this reason). One of the reasons the Apple II was, and always has been, popular, is because of it's vast amount of software available. So where are we today? Are there ANY companies still printing copies of those tens of thousands of software packages? _No._ So we're left with copies that haven't been sold yet. Are there any stores or vendors selling those out-of-print titles, the few that remain? _No._ Sure, there admittedly are a few seeded businesses here and there, but these sources are far and few between and depleting what stock they have left. Quite often these sources don't have what your looking for, which means you'll have to find the titles used at garage sales, thrift shops or online auctions and sales. Quite often you'll turn up empty handed looking for a particular title. Take AppleWorks, hands down one of the most popular Apple II software packages, yet it's not available any longer--anywhere. The problem I see is someone comes along and purchases a used Apple II, looks for particular software, can't find it in stores, through vendors nor used through online sales either. That person is then forced to give up on the Apple II and move on to another platform because they can't find software. It's like we're saying "There's no more room for new users--the software you want isn't available anymore and it's just too bad you'll need it to operate the machine." Sometimes people ask me where they can get games for their Apple IIe or IIgs. I direct them to Shareware Solutions II, which sells 3 or 4 commercial games, but beyond that I have to them they'll have to look for used copies online. That's basically one step away from saying "Tough, you should have bought games a decade ago, and if you can't find them now, that's not my problem. Now excuse me while I go play Zany Golf, Immortal and Task Force." I obviously do not endorse piracy, nor do I think copyrights are something that become meaningless once a title goes out of print. I just think many of us are looking at this as too black and white an issue. We're upholding copyright laws by saying you can't copy such and such a title that's no longer printed-- which is fine, but at the same time we're shrugging our shoulders and saying 10,000+ software titles are only available to those of us who bought them and now the door is closed to anyone else. I sometimes question if we're doing the right thing. I mean without software, the Apple II is not much more than an interesting piece of history. An artifact, a nicknack to store in the closet. I think it's still a useful computer and use mine, I just wish others could too and enjoy the same software I had to chance to use. I'm glad there are people going to great pains to get much of the more populate software legally reclassified, though much of the software will remain in limbo, probably forever. Should we just say the hell with it and tell people copy whatever they want then? I don't think so, but I'm not sure this is doing much towards the continued use and popularity of the Apple II. We're sort of damned we you do, and damned we don't. To get to the bottom line here, I'm worried that those titles will physically disappear one day soon (disk media doesn't last forever, nor does software people throw away) and one day we could find the Apple II with little or no software available to _anyone_. I like the fact Asimov was making an effort to archive and preserve 8-bit Apple II programs (mostly games though) but I don't like the fact the archive is available to ANY anonymous person in the world. I'd like to see clean preserved copies of Apple II software stored safely somewhere on long-lasting media, just so it's there in the future and not gone forever because of disk rot. It should just be in the hands of someone official and trusted, not made accessible to every person in the world--that oversteps the lines of preservation to blatant piracy. Just thought I'd share my thoughts on this, I hope no one views this the wrong way... Mitchell Spector { cw308@torfree.net} (SPECTOR1, 32258, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Excellent post Mitch! I think you've really "hit the nail on the head" with regards to the problems faced by our favorite computer. Since the Apple II is one of the first home systems with this large a software base, it is one of the first to be faced with this dilemma. Mark Percival Montreal, Quebec, Canada An Apple II fanatic since 1979 (PERCIM, 32261, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > "...it's never going to be possible to track down the copyright holder of > EVERY piece of Apple II software ever written..." True, nor is it likely that we could ever come close to tracking down every piece of SOFTWARE, much less the authors. But it's a worthwhile effort. ARCHIVING software is all well and good. If someone were collecting all available software, verifying that the disk images were good, and putting it on some permanent media to preserve it for the future, that would be fine. The problem (I'm agreeing with Mitch, here) is when the files in that archive are made publicly available. Perhaps what the Apple II community needs is an archive site that accepts (and verifies) uploads, but ONLY permits downloads of stuff that has a release from the copyright holder, and has that release included with the archive. Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 32267, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" That's a good idea, Gary. Preserve copies of everything so that if/when permission is granted, we know we have them still. Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 32268, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Perhaps it's time to start another Project. Or should this be part of Lost Classics? (I'm inclined to think the latter, or part of Willies Treasure Chest, perhaps.) Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 32277, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > Well, I don't think it's a matter of telling new users to get lost. :) I'm pretty sure I never suggested that. It's a straw man put up by the pirates to defend their actions. There are plenty of people who are working HARD, most of them on a volunteer basis, to keep Apple II software available to new users. The Treasure Chest Project and the Lost Classics Project have the specific goal of obtaining copyright releases on commercial software, and they WORK at it. There are other people who work on the same goal as individuals, contributing when and where they can. Joe Kohn and a few others have gathered up lots of old stock and can legitimately sell it (for next to nothing) without any copyright hassles. > "I think we should do everything we can to bring people into the fold." For many years there were people in Syndicomm who were charged with building and distributing (to those who requested them) disks of basic Apple II software, including freeware communications programs, word processors, and, of course, operating system disks. It wasn't our goal to supply them with all their software needs, just to give them enough to get started, and information on where to find more. ("teach a man to fish") > "I think too many people just give up without ever trying to contact the > copyright holders." I think too many people never try in the first place and simply go ahead and pirate stuff, and then spend all their time telling the world how wonderful they are for making it available. > "If we had a list, an organization, a Project, that would go a long way > both in actually getting software back into distribution legally..." As I have said a couple of times, we have at least TWO Projects aimed at getting permissions (in writing, publishable) and making software available. The people involved in them could probably use more help. What _I_ am talking about is NOT a project to make software available. Rather, it is a project to PRESERVE software on (more or less) permanent media wo that when someone DOES get a permission, the software is not already lost to bit rot. It would also serve to disarm the pirates who use "preservation" as an excuse to steal. Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 32286, GO COM A2) [EOA] [GBD] GLEN BREDON DIES """""""""""""""" I received a message from Anne Bredon a few days ago, stating, simply: Glen died suddenly on May 8. At this time, that is all I know. I have informed Sheppy of this and he posted a message to that affect on A2Central. I also informed another Apple II News Group of this sad event and have received several messages back about how Glen changed this or that person's life in some way due to their mutual love affair with the Apple II computer. If you would like to send a positive message about Glen and yourself or others that you know who were affected by Glen in positive ways, I will start a collection and forward the final package to Mrs. Bredon. Send message to: { ChuckNewby@aol.com} I HAVE NOT AND WILL NOT POST THIS ANYWHERE ELSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE A2 NEWSGROUPS where flaming is the order of the day. However, you have my permission to pass this message along as you feel appropriate. Chuck Newby (APPLESEEDS, 32299, GO COM A2) [EOA] [APA] ARACHNID PREVIEW 2 AVAILABLE """""""""""""""""""""""""""" G'day Since I don't want to suck (see Juiced GS page 15) I thought I should release Arachnid preview 2 before the end of KFest. For any unaware, Arachnid is a Marinetti based web browser for the GS. It's available now from { http://www.omninet.net.au/~khowe/arachnid/index.html.} I'll be organizing to upload here and to Trenco shortly. Have fun with it! Kim Howe { khowe@omninet.net.au} (KHOWE1, 32386, GO COM A2) [EOA] [CFP] THE CASE OF THE FORGOTTEN PASSWORDS :) """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I've recently been told that the Delphi webside and the text/email side are now totally separate...this was in response to my question regarding no longer being able to log in on the _webside_ with my current and longstanding (coming up on six years now) ID/password combination. I'm then directed to login as if I've forgotten my password (on the webside) then go to an area known as "My Account" to revise my password...only trouble is there isn't any such area (webside) when I do this, so I'm confined to the text/telnet/email areas. Is there a simple fix or solution and maybe a modicum of explanation? "service" ain't what it used to be. Regards, Tom (TDON, 32395, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Tell me about it. (No, don't, I've heard too much already.) At the very bottom of the login window (before you ever start entering anything) in very small print (VERY small print) there is a line that says "Forgotten your forum password?" That's a link. CLick it, and it takes you to a screen that asks you for your Delphi account name and an email address to send the new password to. Your new password will arrive in a few minutes (at least mine did). It won't match your old (text side) password. Once you get your new password for the web side, you can change it back to match your old password. Go to any Delphi web page (probably including the one you are looking at when you log in). In the upper right corner click on 'my forums", then scroll all the way to the bottom of the left hand window to a box named "my info". In that box is a link called "account information" and if you click on that, you'll find the place where you can change your password. Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 32411, GO COM A2) <<<<< """"" Gary, Thanks for the detailed directions. I don't get to visit often or for long, so I haven't gone over the pages with the magnifying glass. however, I followed the directions from Tamara at Service and didn't find what you describe, and I tried following the link that the page offers, but it took me to nowhere where I could find the "My Account" hotlink... ..but I'll try again, ever hopeful. regards, Tom (TDON, 32434, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > ..but I'll try again, ever hopeful. At the time I posted that message, I had the relevant pages open in my browser, to make sure that the directions were precise, so you should have no trouble.:) Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 32441, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Gary, One clarification...if I use the "forget your password" link, I gain entry, _but_ I don't get the access to the page with the "My account" link. In order to get to that link and to be able to change the password myself, I have to use the new password that is sent to me and log in and _then_ go to My Account. I'm now logged in with my original password again which is the same as for the text/telnet access... though I still haven't a clue why it would have changed since it has been the same for nearly six years now. First, annoyed; then, irritated; then aggravated; now, calm once again... but the memory lingers. Regards, Tom (TDON, 32447, GO COM A2) <<<<< """"" >"if I use the "forget your password" link, I gain entry, _but_ I don't > get the access to the page with the "My account" link. In order to get to > that link and to be able to change the password myself, I have to use the > new password that is sent to me and log in and _then_ go to My Account." Ah, yes. I guess I didn't make it clear that you had to wait for the new password. Last time I forgot my password (actually I didn't forget it, Delphi did :), it took them only a couple of minutes to send me the new one, it seemed as if it were automated. > "I still haven't a clue why it would have changed " It's a Delphi bug, errr, feature. (Yeah, that's the story.) Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 32449, GO COM A2) [EOA] [LCM] LOST CLASSICS MOVES RIGHT ALONG """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: AAWAS1.BXY (Entertainment Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:41 By: HKATZ Size: 97024 The World is at war at sea, and you command in this hi-res game of The Ancient Art of War At Sea. Originally released by Broderbund, this program has been released as Freeware by the authors and copyright holders, Dave and Barry Murry, via the Lost Classics Project. Please see the Freeware notice included on the disk. This program unshrinks to two 5.25" disks. This is disk one of the archive. ******************************* Name: AAWAS2.BXY (Entertainment Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:41 By: HKATZ Size: 96640 The World is at war at sea, and you command in this hi-res game of The Ancient Art of War At Sea. Originally released by Broderbund, this program has been released as Freeware by the authors and copyright holders, Dave and Barry Murry, via the Lost Classics Project. Please see the Freeware notice included on the disk. This program unshrinks to two 5.25" disks. This is disk two of the archive. (TONYW1, 32421, GO CO A2) >>>>> """"" Name: FORBGR.BXY (Graphics and Sound) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:47 By: HKATZ Size: 8576 FORBGR.BXY includes additional patterns to use with Beagle Graphics. Beagle Graphics is a graphics utility that lets you use the special feature built into the Apple //e & //c computers to display Double-Hi-Res images. It adds 33 commands for use with graphics manipulation when working with Double Hi-Res images, as well as accessing the 16 color palette. Both the DOS 3.3 and ProDOS versions of this program are covered in this release. This program has now been reclassified as Freeware, and is being released via The Lost Classics Project. Please see the freeware notice included in the program archive. (TONYW1, 32423, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Name: DIVACCT1.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:52 By: HKATZ Size: 81664 The Diversified Accountant Job Cost System will calculate the actual cost for specific jobs, compare them to previously estimated costs and will allow you to track individual employee hours. Now released as Freeware by Bill Basham and Diversified Software, Inc. via The Lost Classics Project. This program is written in Pascal and unshrinks to two 5.25" disks. Please see the Freeware notice found on disk 2 of this upload. This is disk 1 of the upload. ******************************* Name: DIVACCT2.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 2-AUG-2000 23:52 By: HKATZ Size: 46720 The Diversified Accountant Job Cost System will calculate the actual cost for specific jobs, compare them to previously estimated costs and will allow you to track individual employee hours. Now released as Freeware by Bill Basham and Diversified Software, Inc. via The Lost Classics Project. This program is written in Pascal and unshrinks to two 5.25" disks. Please see the Freeware notice found on disk 2 of this upload. This is disk 2 of the upload. (TONYW1, 32424, GO COM A2) [EOA] [NSA] NEW SOFTWARE FOR THE IIgs - ANNOUNCED AT KFest - AND READY FOR DOWNLOAD """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: SCAP11.BXY (Productivity Software) Date: 3-AUG-2000 00:08 By: SISGEOFF Size: 19584 Spectrum Create-A-PDF 1.1 allows the creation of a PDF file from Appleworks Classic, Teach, Text, or Source files. This version allows the creation of PDF files up to four megabytes in size (assuming there is enough RAM) and optionally adding the Mac file type so the appropriate icon will show up in Mac OS. Spectrum 2.2 or higher is required. (TONYW1, 32426, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Name: SEDISTIC.BXY (Telecommunications) Date: 3-AUG-2000 00:22 By: KEN_GAGNE Size: 6144 Sedistic is a Spectrum script to apply a find/replace to an entire directory (or directory tree) of files (text, Teach, and Appleworks). Freeware by Ken Gagne. (TONYW1, 32427, GO COM A2) [EOA] [LCP] KFest LIVE CAM BROADCAST PRAISED """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The delayed streamed QuickTime page on A2Central.com is now broadcasting the keynote address on a repeating loop, and will continue to do so until around 8:30 or 9:00 AM CDT. Enjoy. :) Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 32363, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" FWIW, thanks to Sheppy, Dave (The Man) Miler, and the contributions of many, many other KFesters, we are having a lot of live coverage of KFest 2000 on the Internet. Check http://www.a2central.com/ for details. Don't ask "When was the last time I turned the Apple II on?" Ask "When was the last time the Apple II turned me on?" Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 32364, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" Sheppy & everyone else involved, Thank you so much for providing the live Webcast from KFest. The other night I felt like I was there, even though it was a bit strange chatting in the conference and then seeing (and hearing) your reactions live on camera. I even managed to catch most of the keynote address yesterday and part of what looked like Tony Diaz's session today. I hope the camera is running tonight so I can show my visiting family what I'm missing (they're the reason I'm not with you this year.) Tony Ward Apple II fan? Visit the { A2} Forum! (TONYW1, 32371, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" I whole-heartedly agree! It's been fun popping in @ KFest for a moment here and there (even from work!) to see what's going on! Jeff Carr Fri, 28 Jul 00 @ 4:21:04 (LUMITECH, 32375, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" The live cam is the best thing since the Apple II lowercase mod kit. Henrik Woof Gudat woof woof (GUDATH, 32377, GO COM A2) [EOA] [TFC] THE FRENCH CONNECTION CD-ROMS """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" >Parlez vous Francais? >"Oui" - Brutal Deluxe Hmmm....that's lame, so maybe a better lead in would be... Coming soon...The French Connection CD-ROMs! Chocked filled with lots of Apple II software you didn't even know existed. Along with special surprises...such as the French version of Convert 3200. Stay tuned for details! Joe (JOE_KOHN, 32474, GO COM A2) [EOA] [TUE] THE ULTIMATE EAMON COLLECTION ON CD-ROM """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The ultimate Eamon collection is now available on CD! The compiler of the Eamon CD is Tom Zuchowski, the editor and publisher of the "Eamon Adventurer's Guild," a quarterly Eamon publication that is still being published today. Tom has been running the Eamon club for 13 years. The EAG was for years "Eamon Central," the place that first debugged and then released Eamon adventures to the public domain. Most of the old mail-order Apple II software vendors got their Eamons from the EAG, as did online sources such as Genie, ftp.gmd.de and ground. This Eamon CD includes 242 public-domain Eamons, the three Softdisk Eamons (with permission), plus 16 years of newsletter back issues that include many useful items such as Eamon reviews, lists and walk-throughs for difficult Eamons. There are various utilities, maps, pictures, and lots of other miscellaneous stuff. It includes native Apple II Eamons, Apple II emulator DSK files, emulators for PC and Mac, and about 30 native MS-DOS Eamons. Almost 1500 files all told. The CD is being produced on a CD-R drive on a Windows PC, but it uses the universal ISO9660 format and was checked by three Mac users for compatibility with Macs. Effort has been taken to make this a turn-key CD. For example, the native Apple II files are compressed, and therefore that section also includes ShrinkIt. There are README-type info files for each section. The emulator section includes ApplePC and AppleWin emulators for PC's, and Catakig for Macs. This CD is a gift to those who are still interested in Eamon after all these years, and so the price for the U.S. and Canada is a break-even $3.00, and that includes shipping. The international price is $7.00. International users should email { tzuchow@attglobal.net} for payment options. The standard version of the CD will not include Eamons #32 and #196 because of their extremely low quality and tasteless adult content. Anyone who wants a full CD that includes those two Eamons must specifically request them and also state that they are at least 18 years old. Send your check to: Tom Zuchowski 7625 Hawkhaven Dr. Clemmons, NC 27012-9408 Tony Ward Apple II fan? Visit the { A2} Forum! (TONYW1, 32521, GO COM A2) [EOA] [NSC] NO SLOT CLOCK """"""""""""" I have heard of a device called a NO SLOT clock. Can anyone explain how these work. My //e's are getting a bit full of cards so I was curious if i could use one to get around the problem of no spare slots. Mark. (LUKE65816, 32528, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" These look a lot like a socket, except they have an embedded clock. Pry out a ROM chip in the IIe (I want to say CD but I'm not sure exactly which offhand), put in the NSC, put the ROM chip into the NSC, install the software. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 32530, GO COM A2) <<<<< """"" thanks Ryan, So you need software to make it work huh ? Won't ProDOS use it like a normal clock, as if it were a GS. or does the software modify ProDOS to work with the NSC. Mark (LUKE65816, 32546, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > So you need software to make it work huh ? yes. > Won't ProDOS use it like a normal clock, as if it were a GS. ProDOS knows of two "normal clocks". 1) The clock in the IIgs. 2) The Thunderclock (the original ProDOS clock). If a clock works like a Thunderclock (like the TimeMaster II H.O. supposedly did), then ProDOS will automatically recognize it. Conversely, some software (such as ProTERM) will recognize a No Slot Clock if you select it and install it in ProTERM even if ProDOS drivers aren't installed. > or does the software modify ProDOS to work with the NSC. Yes. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 32549, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" In message 'no slot clock (Re: Msg 32546)' RSUENAGA in response to LUKE65816 said: >> or does the software modify ProDOS to work with the NSC. > > Yes. I took Luke's question as asking if the software patched ProDOS and I know that earlier versions of the No Slot Clock software did just that. However, I'm pretty sure that the most recent version of the software is a *.SYSTEM program that you put on your ProDOS boot disk and made it the first *.SYSTEM program so that it would be loaded, put a clock driver for the No Slot Clock into memory and then start the second *.SYSTEM file. Not owning a No Slot Clock or having ever used the software for it, I'm just relying on my memory, though. Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in the A2Pro forum (JBLAKENEY, 32551, GO COM A2) <<<<< """"" > However, I'm pretty sure that the most recent version of the software is > a *.SYSTEM program that you put on your ProDOS boot disk and made it the > first *.SYSTEM program so that it would be loaded, put a clock driver for > the No Slot Clock into memory and then start the second *.SYSTEM file. > Not owning a No Slot Clock or having ever used the software for it, I'm > just relying on my memory, though. There is a file SMARTWATCH.BXY in the current A2 Database here. It contains an archive of utilities for use with the NSC. My recollection was the same as yours until I looked in the archive. It appears that either (a) you have a choice now of patching or not, or (b) you still have to patch. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 32552, GO COM A2) [EOA] [DDS] DELPHI WILL DROP SUPPORT FOR TEXT BASED ACCESS """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" >>>>> First the Letter <<<<< """""""""""""""""""""""""""" To: All paying Delphi members From: Rusty Williams, President of Delphi.com, Incorporated As of November 1, 2000, you will no longer be billed for Delphi's services. The "legacy services" including premium homepage services, text-based online service, and Delphi e-mail will be provided on an unsupported basis. If you're being billed monthly, your last bill will be for October. If you paid an annual fee you will receive a pro-rated credit. We're making these changes in order to focus our development and marketing efforts on Delphi's free web-based forum services. With over 2.5 million members, Delphi.com is now one of the top 150 sites on the web and growing rapidly. The legacy services may remain accessible, however, there will be no technical support. You should make arrangements as soon as possible get an alternative provider -- some options are described at the end of this message. Q & A - (Q) Why is Delphi making these changes? (A) For the past three years, Delphi has focused on building the best forum services for people with a standard web browser and internet connection. The site has grown to more than 2.5 million members and 80,000 active forums. In order to maintain our leadership in this market, we must focus our efforts on our strengths. The text-based services, e-mail services and premium homepage services are all based on a technical platform that cannot be maintained on a cost-effective basis. (Q) What exactly are "Text Online Services", "Premium Homepages" and "Delphi E-mail"? (A) Depending on what type of account you opened and when, you may not even be familiar with all of these terms. The Text Online Service was offered as Delphi's primary service through the late 80s and early 90s. Prior to now we've chosen to maintain this service and construct a "bridge" between the old text interface and the newer web-based forums. This has become impractical and too costly to support. The Premium Homepages were initially offered in 1997 and 1998 and included special authoring tools and additional storage for building homepages for a fee. Delphi E-mail is any account that uses xyz@delphi.com as an e-mail address (e-mail was originally provided in conjunction with Homepages and text online services). (Q) What does "unsupported" mean? (A) We hope that it means that these services will continue to be accessible for many months without any fees. If there aren't technical problems, then you will be able to use them for free. You won't be able to get technical support either by e-mail or phone so everything will be entirely on an "as available" basis. If something breaks, we may commit the resources to fix it or we may not. It will depend on the time, cost, and level of use. (Q) I use the text-based games such as TQ and Scramble on the web. Will these be discontinued? (A) Since these games are based on the old platform they are prone to technical problems. Our hope is to continue providing the games, but it will depend on the technical support costs. Recommendation for alternative services: E-Mail services: If you use Delphi.com for e-mail (your address is something@delphi.com), you should immediately set up an e-mail account with any Internet Service Provider or one of the free web-based providers such as Hotmail (http://www.hotmail.com), Yahoo mail (http://mail.yahoo.com). There is a list of over 5000 Internet Service Providers at http://www.isps.com. Once you have a new account set up, notify all of your existing contacts of your new address. You can arrange for your Delphi.com e-mail to be forwarded to your new account by sending a request to service@delphi.com. Homepage services: you can set up free personal homepages at hundreds of sites on the web. Some of the most popular include http://www.tripod.com, http://www.homestead.com, http://www.geocities.com, http://www.fortunecity.com, and http://www.xoom.com. We appreciate your support of Delphi over the years and look forward to your continued participation in Delphi's free forum services at http://www.delphi.com. Best regards, Rusty Williams President Delphi.com Incorporated >>>>> then some comments <<<<< """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Jeff (and everyone) >>"However, if we don't find a new home before the text side stops >> working..." Y'all will remember that Syndicomm was ready when GEnie was dying. We built a new home here. We saw THIS coming too. We're not ready to make any public announcement, but we will be, and it'll be a good one. :) Roger, >>"Where does all the wealth of uploaded files move to from here. :-(" We saved all the GEnie files, and we're not losing any from here either. That's all I can say at the moment, but this isn't the first time we've had to deal with a situation like this, and we've already been getting ready, so it ain't no big deal. :) Ryan, >>"Stay tuned for announcements :)" Well, we're maybe not quite ready for announcements, but PRE announcements are in order... PRE-ANNOUNCEMENT: We'll have something to announce before too long, and it will be GOOD. "Apple II Forever" (damn right!) Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 32582, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" If and when the textside -- which will be unsupported starting November 1 stops functioning, your telnet access will go away. Delphi has not announced that the textside is being closed, but that they plan to stop making any effort to keep it working after that date, which means it could break and stay that way at any time after November 1. Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 32601, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" As soon as the working details of any alternative home are made available, Crock 'O Gold will be reworked or revisited to handle it... Don't worry, we won't leave you having to use any clumsy and slow web interface from these alternative machines some people keep mentioning... Ewen Wannop - Speccie Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.3 & Crock O' Gold 3.3 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.5.1 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 Home Pages: http://www.btinternet.com/~ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 32605, GO COM A2) >>>>> """"" > Does this service change mean that COG won't work anymore? COG will continue to work until the text side breaks. Remember, Delphi says they will continue to provide text side access, they just won't be dedicating as many resources (money) to it. If something expensive breaks, it might not get fixed. > Will I still be able to use this e-mail address? I'm a little confused about this myself. The letter from Delphi specifically states that anyone using an @delphi.com email address should immediately setup an account elsewhere (yahoo, hotmail, etc.) They also say that anyone using the Premium Homepage feature should find another freebie Web home (geocities, xoom, tripod, etc.) My guess is that these services will continue until something expensive breaks (just like the text side access), in which case you'd be left without an email address and/or a homepage. Tony Ward Apple II fan? Visit the { A2} Forum! (TONYW1, 32607, GO COM A2) [EOA] [BNH] A2CENTRAL.COM AND SYNDICOMM TO BUILD NEW APPLE II HOME ONLINE """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" A2CENTRAL.COM AND SYNDICOMM TO BUILD NEW APPLE II HOME ONLINE August 19, 2000--At KansasFest 2000 three weeks ago, Eric Shepherd, editor of the popular A2Central.com web site and Syndicomm, manager of Apple II forums for over five years, began discussing a plan to create a new Apple II home on the Internet. With Delphi's recent announcement that its text-based services would no longer be supported effective November 1, 2000, A2Central.com and Syndicomm have decided to pre-announce their services to help alleviate any concerns among Apple II users over losing a valuable and moderated meeting place. A2Central.com, over the coming months, will be intensively upgraded, with a telnet-accessible message board, chat area, and file library, and with World Wide Web access to the message board and file library. These services will be provided at a small monthly fee (fee to be determined). Other services will likely be added in the future; however, the immediate goal is to prepare A2Central.com to take over Delphi's place in the Apple II community if and when it becomes inaccessible to text-based Apple II users. At this time, we have no more specific information available. Please watch A2Central.com (http://www.a2central.com) for future news on this matter. Eric Shepherd Editor A2Central.com Where "Apple II Forever!" isn't just a catchy slogan. (SHEPPY, 32603, GO COM A2) [EOA] [EOA] [A2P]------------------------------ A2Pro_DUCTIVITY | ----------------------------------- DISTILLATIONS from Delphi A2PRO """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson [MOS] MARINETTI OPEN SOURCE PROJECT """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" ------------------------------------------------------------------ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE -- 17TH AUGUST 2000 FROM: RICHARD BENNETT I am announcing that I intend to release Marinetti, my proprietary TCP/IP stack for the Apple IIGS, as open source. My time for Marinetti development at the moment is limited, yet there are a number of projects in the Apple II community which need some changes to the code. Additionally, my test set up here is not currently adequate enough for testing a Marinetti production environment. The intention is to release parts of the source for developers to work on, and to feed that back into the next/current Marinetti product. If this process works well, then more source will be released, until the entire code is freely available. I also see this as an interesting test of open sourcing an Apple II product, which, if works, could be adapted to other currently idle Apple II products. There are a number of developers already involved in this project, and they are currently helping me to develop a plan for release and maintenance of the code. Want to help? The Marinetti Open Source Project has a home page (with very little on it at this stage) at: http://www.apple2.org/mosp This announcement was originally posted in Delphi's A2Pro forum. You may publish this announcement, as long as the entire post is kept intact, from the "FOR IMMEDIATE..." down to the copyright message below, inclusive. COPYRIGHT (C) 2000, RICHARD BENNETT ------------------------------------------------------------------ (RICHARD_B, 3157, GO COM A2P) [EOA] [MLN] MERLIN-16+ 4.12 Z.08 """""""""""""""""""" Since january 1995, I've been using my own version of Merlin-16+ with added functionality. Maybe others do as well. Considering Merlin is now public domain (perhaps), it's probably time that I released my version. My extended Merlin is available from my web site www.zip.com.au/~kashum, just follow the link to "Old Apple II code". I haven't touched it since about 1997, but it is code compatible with Merlin 4.12, so much so that I have complete source to it. Regards, Richard (RICHARD_B, 3170, GO COM A2P) [EOA] [ZBC] ZBASIC BECOMES FREEWARE VIA THE LOST CLASSICS PROJECT AND UPLOADED TO A2P """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Name: ZBASIC128K.BXY (BASIC Programming) Type: PROGRAM Date: 18-AUG-2000 11:25 By : HKATZ Size: 154880 ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are the ProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one is for 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on any ProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a 128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics and structured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, and the compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASIC environment or as stand alone ProDOS applications. ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integrate text and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets. It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8 megabytes, and has full mouse support. This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder, ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The Lost Classics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive. This is the 128k version of Zbasic, saved as an 800k disk, and contains sample files. Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK, FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT, ZBASIC128K.BXY ******************** Name: ZBASIC64K.BXY (BASIC Programming) Type: PROGRAM Date: 18-AUG-2000 11:29 By : HKATZ Size: 155648 ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are the ProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one is for 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on any ProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a 128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics and structured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, and the compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASIC environment or as stand alone ProDOS applications. ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integrate text and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets. It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8 megabytes, and has full mouse support. This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder, ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The Lost Classics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive. This is the 64k version of Zbasic, saved as an 800k disk, and contains sample files. Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK, FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT, ZBASIC64K.BXY (APULVER, 3163, GO COM A2P) >>>>> """"" Name: ZBASICD1S1.BXY Type: PROGRAM Date: 18-AUG-2000 11:33 By: HKATZ Size: 91264 ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are the ProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one is for 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on any ProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a 128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics and structured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, and the compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASIC environment or as stand alone ProDOS applications. ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integrate text and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets. It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8 megabytes, and has full mouse support. This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder, ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The Lost Classics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive. This is the 128k version of Zbasic, saved as an 5.25" disk, side 1. Side 2 contains the 64k version. Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK, FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, ZBASICD1S, 1.BXY, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT ******************** Name: ZBASICD1S2.BXY Type: PROGRAM Date: 18-AUG-2000 11:35 By: HKATZ Size: 92544 ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are the ProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one is for 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on any ProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a 128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics and structured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, and the compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASIC environment or as stand alone ProDOS applications. ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integrate text and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets. It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8 megabytes, and has full mouse support. This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder, ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The Lost Classics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive. This is the 64k version of Zbasic, saved as an 5.25" disk, side 2. Side 1 contains the 128k version. Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK, FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, ZBASICD1S2.BXY, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT (APULVER, 3164, GO COM A2P) >>>>> """"" Name: ZBASICD2.BXY Type: PROGRAM Date: 18-AUG-2000 11:38 By: HKATZ Size: 73728 ZBASIC is a BASIC compiler for 8-bit Apple II computers. These are the ProDOS versions, of which there are two. One is for 64K models, and one is for 128K models. Programs build using the 64K version run on any ProDOS-compatible Apple II; programs build using the 128K version require a 128K system. The language has a number of extensions for graphics and structured programming, a full-screen editor, a command-line interface, and the compiler itself. You can run programs directly in the ZBASIC environment or as stand alone ProDOS applications. ZBASIC supports regular or Double Hi-Res graphics, allows you to integrate text and graphics, and to customize your graphics sets. It also supports DO/UNTIL and WHILE/WEND commands, RAM disks up to 8 megabytes, and has full mouse support. This software has been reclassified as freeware by the Copyright holder, ArtToday.com, inc (formally ZEDCOR, Inc.) and is released via The Lost Classics Project. Please see the FREEWARE.NOTICE included on each archive. This disk contains samples for use with ZBASIC, saved on a 5.25" disk. Keywords: COMPILER, BASIC, PRODOS, PROGRAMMING, EDITOR, GRAPHICS, DISK, FREEWARE, ZEDCOR, ZBASICD2.BXY, SAMPLES, LOST, CLASSICS, PROJECT (APULVER, 3165, GO COM A2P) [EOA] [FTN]------------------------------ KFest 2000, FIRST-TIMER'S NOTES | ----------------------------------- From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson The friendly atmosphere, in the conversations and helpfulness permeated the hallways, the meals, the field trips, the questions, the answers, etc. TUESDAY ''''''' Arrived just in time to join the trek to Gates BBQ. Arriving on Tuesday was a good decision. This provided time Tuesday evening and part of Wednesday to meet people in person, get organized, and learn my way around. While communicating with other A2 users online (many of them for years) you form a mental image of what they look like. In many cases my images of people were shattered looking at pictures of previous KFests. For those I had not seen pictures of, I was in for a real surprise as to what they looked like. WEDNESDAY ''''''''' My natural alarm clock woke me up at 6AM. The sidewalks on campus served as a varied path for my daily morning walk. I discovered that our dorm was the only building on campus that did not have wheelchair access. Supper was our first meal on campus. It was OK. The Keynote Address ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ by Ryan was an enthusiastic presentation admonishing us to enjoy our Apple II's. We also found out what Ryan's "special project" in preparation for KFest was. A two CD set of most of the software from the GEnie (Genie) A2 library of software! Called "Time in a Bottle", we learned that it would be available for purchase at the vender fair on Saturday. The Reception ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ sponsored by Juiced.GS was held in the dorm lounge area. Lots of fellowship with crunchy and liquid refreshments. THURSDAY ''''''''' Lost Classics by Howard Katz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The basic steps for reclassifying software are: 1) Identify software that is worthy of the effort. 2) Determine the holder of the copyright. 3) Contact this person or company to negotiate permission. 4) Get the release in writing. (Either letter or Email.) 5) Prepare the files for upload, including a freeware notice. 6) Decide where to upload. Avoid sites with a questionable reputation. 7) Publicize the upload. Individuals can help with any of the steps. Efforts need to be coordinated. If you are interested contact Howard. Proterm Mac Scripting by Dave Miller and Jerry Cline ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Proterm Mac has many features including outstanding scripting capabilities. I have so much fun exploring things online that I never get around to getting very deep into scripting. Linux: The Apple II Cable modem Adapter by Ryan Suenaga and Kirk Mitchell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Very interesting concept: Cable Modem >-> Mac or IBM running Linux >-> Null Modem Cable >->Apple II Provides shell access for the Apple II. You will need some help to set this up. Accelerators and Other Cards for the Apple IIs by Tony Diaz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Planning to "upgrade your accelerator"? Do your research carefully. If you don't know what your doing... "leave it alone". Visit to Sean Fahey's A2 garage ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Computers, modems, cards, cooling fans, etc., etc. "If you can use it, take it". Wow. Can't beat that price. FRIDAY '''''' Desktop Publishing by Max Jones ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Max shared with us ideas from his many years of experience of desktop publishing. New Stuff by Eric Shepherd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Network Printer Setup will help you in getting your printer network operating. Diskmaker can be used to convert a disk image back into a physical disk. Lemonade Stand GS, based on a really old program for Apple II computers, lets you go into business selling lemonade Bernie and Ernie by Eric Shepherd and Ryan Suenaga ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A showing of the Apple IIgs emulators. This session included a guest appearance by Henrik Gudat from Europe via the Delphi chat room. Included was an announcement a program by Sarah Shepherd called GS ROM Grabber used for capturing the ROM from your IIgs for use with an emulator. Version 3.0 of Bernie ][ The Rescue 3.0 was also announced during this session. KFest Roast of Eric Shepherd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The committee worked overtime to come up with many items from Sheppy's past to turn up the heat and entertain the KFest crowd. Sheppy and Sarah were good sports about it. SATURDAY """""""" BeOS, BeIA, and Clipper by Eric Shepherd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Most of the crowd was familiar with BeOS, an operating system for the IBM computers. We learned about BeIA, for internet appliances. We were introduced to Clipper, a prototype of a device that has the potential to be programed for any one of a multitude of very specific tasks. Spectrum Scripts 2000 by Geoff Weiss """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Included were an update of SIS (Spectrum Internet Suite) and SCAP. SFTP (under developement) is a Spectrum script that will transfer files via FTP. The Mystery Hardware Demo by Eric Shepherd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ was delayed as long as possible waiting for a package to be received. The package arrived after KFest so the demo was turned into a description. LANceGS turned out to be a network card for the Apple II computer. Very exciting. Dinner at the KC Masterpiece ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Food was delicious. Fellowship was Delightful. Passes the "Parking Lot Test" with flying colors. :) SUNDAY '''''' Breakfast, then head for home. Think about next years KFest all the way home. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION '''''''''''''''''''''' Explore http://www.a2central.com/ for information about KFest 2000. KFest 2001 will be at Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri, July 25-29. Keep tabs on http://www.kfest.org/ to keep up with additional information. [EOF] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month in """"""""""""""" the Database of the II Scribe Forum on the Delphi online service (GO CUS 11). This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2000 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All rights reserved. * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@sheppyware.net * Back issues of The Lamp! are available in the II Scribe Forum on Delphi as well as The Lamp! Home Page, http://lamp.sheppyware.net. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of the Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc., Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson. Forum messages are reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from the individual authors. Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Inc., Ryan M. Suenaga, and Lyle Syverson do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy. Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< [EOF]